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Does that include shielding the second hit, or just the first?
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The Triforce of Toon: A Community Toon Link Guide
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demonictoonlink
Smash Master
IDK what to say...Our grab is bad. Except with stuff like MK's Dsmash. Having the ability to auto-punish that is great...
Hyro
Smash Lord
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Ok, here are the facts.
You have to use your grab. Sorry, but you do. Just use it until you get good at it because if not, your opponent can just shield the entire match.
Rock paper scissors. If you're opponent knows you're never going to use rock, he can scissors ALL the time and NEVER lose.
Anyways, every throw is the same exact thing, 7%. So all you gotta do is mix it up. If you back threw recently, fthrow. If you uthrew, dthrow. Dthrow, bthrow, whatever as long as you get the most damage out of it.
Grab release to usmash on Wario and MK...IF they mash jump, which they shouldn't.
Dthrow doesn't true combo so you're probably not gonna get a bair from it unless your opponent is just slow. Dthrow is good for reads. They airdodge, you can bair/charge a smash/grab again. They double jump (IMO the smartest option and what they SHOULD do) you can FH a bair. The best option for them would be to DJ with an aerial to get away.
Bthrow is my favorite because it's the quickest. They might mis-DI it at higher percents to set you up for a gimp. I like the position it puts them in, very vulnerable. The most common thing I do is bthrow, then run up and nair them. It works a lottt of the time because it's soooo fast. When you bthrow someone offstage, DON'T be an 08 toon link and try to gimp them. 90% of the time, they're going to double jump back on stage with a bair (because they're back will be facing towards you. Just shield that and punish. Bthrow is also waaaaaaaay to good for tech chases. Whenever they hit the floor just run up and tech chase. They're most likely gonna roll AWAY so run past them.
Uthrow heavies on BF to the platforms then aerial them. I think it has the most killing potential out of our throws at suuuuper high percents.
Fthrow is stupid but it's just good depending on where you want your opponent to be so you can have more stage control, or to just get them off the stage.
I wouldn't try grab release mindgames with Toon Link...it's not like our jab is extremely fast and yeah you can grab again but it's pretty obvious that you're going to...maybe just because I main him?
Times to grab:
Grab when people airdodge to the ground. That's how I learned to grab. But it's different now because people will bait grabs with airdodging to the ground and buffering a spotdodge...that works lol. So you just gotta do it when they're not expecting you to grab. Like waiting for them to airdodge out of a bair combo.
Zair to grab obviously is way too legit, but sometimes you'll feel that you zaired them and that they're too FAR to grab. This is gonna give them time to spotdodge...which they usually will (as long as you've zair to grabbed them enough). That's where zair to pivot grab comes in.
Like everyone in brawl, if you know someone is gonna spotdodge, just pivot grab them...it's like automatically waiting for the spotdodge.
You have to use your grab. Sorry, but you do. Just use it until you get good at it because if not, your opponent can just shield the entire match.
Rock paper scissors. If you're opponent knows you're never going to use rock, he can scissors ALL the time and NEVER lose.
Anyways, every throw is the same exact thing, 7%. So all you gotta do is mix it up. If you back threw recently, fthrow. If you uthrew, dthrow. Dthrow, bthrow, whatever as long as you get the most damage out of it.
Grab release to usmash on Wario and MK...IF they mash jump, which they shouldn't.
Dthrow doesn't true combo so you're probably not gonna get a bair from it unless your opponent is just slow. Dthrow is good for reads. They airdodge, you can bair/charge a smash/grab again. They double jump (IMO the smartest option and what they SHOULD do) you can FH a bair. The best option for them would be to DJ with an aerial to get away.
Bthrow is my favorite because it's the quickest. They might mis-DI it at higher percents to set you up for a gimp. I like the position it puts them in, very vulnerable. The most common thing I do is bthrow, then run up and nair them. It works a lottt of the time because it's soooo fast. When you bthrow someone offstage, DON'T be an 08 toon link and try to gimp them. 90% of the time, they're going to double jump back on stage with a bair (because they're back will be facing towards you. Just shield that and punish. Bthrow is also waaaaaaaay to good for tech chases. Whenever they hit the floor just run up and tech chase. They're most likely gonna roll AWAY so run past them.
Uthrow heavies on BF to the platforms then aerial them. I think it has the most killing potential out of our throws at suuuuper high percents.
Fthrow is stupid but it's just good depending on where you want your opponent to be so you can have more stage control, or to just get them off the stage.
I wouldn't try grab release mindgames with Toon Link...it's not like our jab is extremely fast and yeah you can grab again but it's pretty obvious that you're going to...maybe just because I main him?
Times to grab:
Grab when people airdodge to the ground. That's how I learned to grab. But it's different now because people will bait grabs with airdodging to the ground and buffering a spotdodge...that works lol. So you just gotta do it when they're not expecting you to grab. Like waiting for them to airdodge out of a bair combo.
Zair to grab obviously is way too legit, but sometimes you'll feel that you zaired them and that they're too FAR to grab. This is gonna give them time to spotdodge...which they usually will (as long as you've zair to grabbed them enough). That's where zair to pivot grab comes in.
Like everyone in brawl, if you know someone is gonna spotdodge, just pivot grab them...it's like automatically waiting for the spotdodge.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
what if they spotdodge c stick like falco: spotdodge
tl: har har I R PIVOT GRABBING YOU
falco:AAAAAAAA D SMASH ******Z
TL:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
tl: har har I R PIVOT GRABBING YOU
falco:AAAAAAAA D SMASH ******Z
TL:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Once again Hyro saves the day. Now that is the kind of post I've been asking for. You hit the nail right in the face with a sledge hammer. You actually did more then I asked. You gave a splendid summary of the throws as well which I will use in the next discussion when I write it up.
So pretty much, there's no need for any more replys on this one. I'll write it up as soon as I get home from college.
@Everyone else that isn't hyro: For future reference, try to model your posts as closely as possible to what hyro has just done here and this will be done in no time at all. Thank you.
So pretty much, there's no need for any more replys on this one. I'll write it up as soon as I get home from college.
@Everyone else that isn't hyro: For future reference, try to model your posts as closely as possible to what hyro has just done here and this will be done in no time at all. Thank you.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Great post by Hyro. Just wanted to say that buffering a roll works the same as spotdodge for the grabbing a landing opponent thing.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
yea thats what i meant by unless someone makes a bigass post we need more info and hyro made a big *** post lol
As promised, it's updated! The Grab and Pummel are done.
We now move on to the Throws. I am aware that some stuff has already been said about the throws and I will be gladly using that info when I update, so this is really just a chance for anyone who wanted to say something about the throws to contribute.
So anything that you wanted to say about Toon's throws, go right ahead. Note: we are talking about throwing opponents not items.
Edit: That goes for opponent's items as well.
We now move on to the Throws. I am aware that some stuff has already been said about the throws and I will be gladly using that info when I update, so this is really just a chance for anyone who wanted to say something about the throws to contribute.
So anything that you wanted to say about Toon's throws, go right ahead. Note: we are talking about throwing opponents not items.
Edit: That goes for opponent's items as well.
MJG
Smash Hero
-Instant throwing is a pretty useful aspect to the game (especially when Playing snake and Diddy). Only downfall when playing snake is that they can cook the grenade and make you drop it whenever they like (unless you picked up the second grenade that was thrown out). If toonlink decides to Z drop a bomb on a platform on a stage such as battlefield, then they can instant throw the bomb from the platform.
-Jump Cancelled Throw is useful because toonlink can be running in one direction while holding a bomb, Jump then instantly hitting A (or the desired keys) and throw the bomb in the opposite direction. Other than this, toonlink can get a slight boost from doing then (not as big as glide tossing though
)
-Jump Cancelled Throw is useful because toonlink can be running in one direction while holding a bomb, Jump then instantly hitting A (or the desired keys) and throw the bomb in the opposite direction. Other than this, toonlink can get a slight boost from doing then (not as big as glide tossing though
)
This is a great thread, heres some comments on Toons grabgame:
D-throw's simply not useful, only at battlefield or under platforms in general can it lead into a combo.
B-throw is very effective when forcing an edgegame(an example would be against a Lucario) if that's your thing or getting your opponent away from you to spam projectiles or B-air. Arguably his best throw.
U-throw reasonably leads into a good anti-air approach with bombs and U-air(Useful tactic vs. Olimar).
F-throw is quick and you could perhaps pull off a short hop F-air or Quickdraw after but that i'm not sure,
Out of them all, B-throw and U-throw are better for comboing and putting your adversary where you want them to be. The damage is the same so it's just that, where do you want your opponent? I would rather them be behind or above so I can be ready with B-air or U-air.
As for grabs in general same with D-air, be precise and don't get punished by uneccessary lag, Run and grab only if you absolutely know they're shielding otherwise DONT, I shield-grab primarily cuz it's safer.
D-throw's simply not useful, only at battlefield or under platforms in general can it lead into a combo.
B-throw is very effective when forcing an edgegame(an example would be against a Lucario) if that's your thing or getting your opponent away from you to spam projectiles or B-air. Arguably his best throw.
U-throw reasonably leads into a good anti-air approach with bombs and U-air(Useful tactic vs. Olimar).
F-throw is quick and you could perhaps pull off a short hop F-air or Quickdraw after but that i'm not sure,
Out of them all, B-throw and U-throw are better for comboing and putting your adversary where you want them to be. The damage is the same so it's just that, where do you want your opponent? I would rather them be behind or above so I can be ready with B-air or U-air.
As for grabs in general same with D-air, be precise and don't get punished by uneccessary lag, Run and grab only if you absolutely know they're shielding otherwise DONT, I shield-grab primarily cuz it's safer.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Bthrow is our most fun through to use because it's so fast.
Oh and Uthrow kills around 200% on FD. Keep it in mind.
Oh and Uthrow kills around 200% on FD. Keep it in mind.
@mjg: Nice try, but as you will find out if you read my previous post, we were talking about throwing people, not items.
Never the less, as I said, we were talking about the throws, because we are no longer talking about them because we are.....
Moving On!!
Last one for the Move set discussion!
We are now talking about the ledge attacks and the getup attack. More specifically, the ledge attack < 100%, the ledge attack > 100% and the attack that Toon does after a trip, a missed tech or things like Snake's D-throw.
This is the last one for the moveset discussion so let's get it done and out of the way already. With it done, the hard part of the guide is also done.
Never the less, as I said, we were talking about the throws, because we are no longer talking about them because we are.....
Moving On!!
Last one for the Move set discussion!
We are now talking about the ledge attacks and the getup attack. More specifically, the ledge attack < 100%, the ledge attack > 100% and the attack that Toon does after a trip, a missed tech or things like Snake's D-throw.
This is the last one for the moveset discussion so let's get it done and out of the way already. With it done, the hard part of the guide is also done.
MJG
Smash Hero
AH my bad.
Definitely read that wrong. Im just gonna stop contributing seeing as how my posts are becoming useless.
Definitely read that wrong. Im just gonna stop contributing seeing as how my posts are becoming useless.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
What's with all the Hyro avatars? Has Hyro started a cult? I'm sure I'd find out if I was bothered to look in the GD or something.......
While I'm at it, why hasn't my avatar been working for a few days now? Hmm.....
@mjg: Please don't stop contributing, just make sure you know what we're discussing first is all.
So how about we get this done now?
I don't have time to write it up right now anyway so no worries that nothing's been said yet, but when I do get time, I'd be surprised to see nothing is still done. Mind you, I'd write it up anyway whether anything's been said or not. A lack of responses won't stop this from getting done, it just might need to be re-done at some point latter on.
If you're not sure what we're discussing, check the top of the OP or my last post.
While I'm at it, why hasn't my avatar been working for a few days now? Hmm.....
@mjg: Please don't stop contributing, just make sure you know what we're discussing first is all.
So how about we get this done now?
I don't have time to write it up right now anyway so no worries that nothing's been said yet, but when I do get time, I'd be surprised to see nothing is still done. Mind you, I'd write it up anyway whether anything's been said or not. A lack of responses won't stop this from getting done, it just might need to be re-done at some point latter on.
If you're not sure what we're discussing, check the top of the OP or my last post.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
like this post you made
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I like this post as well
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
agreed good sir agreed
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The invincibility frames don't cover our get up attack's hitbubbles. They go away before our attacks come out. That's for the getup attack and the under 100%.
Our regular getup attack is easily punishable if they shield the first hit, and slightly less punishable if they get hit by the second. I wouldn't depend on this. It's best to use this as a mixup, since our roll isn't great either. It's like having 3 bad options, and we're picking which one is less bad.
I'll put the invincibility frames .pac in when I get home and double-check that (the first sentence).
Our regular getup attack is easily punishable if they shield the first hit, and slightly less punishable if they get hit by the second. I wouldn't depend on this. It's best to use this as a mixup, since our roll isn't great either. It's like having 3 bad options, and we're picking which one is less bad.
I'll put the invincibility frames .pac in when I get home and double-check that (the first sentence).
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
I'm made such a decent post before smashboards ruined it...
I'll prolly make it again soon
I'll prolly make it again soon
Variable
Smash Ace
Good find, really good find.
It's probably been here for a long time, but just made an account.
It's probably been here for a long time, but just made an account.
Finally!!!!!!!!
I finally got some spare time. I've been so busy lately 24/7 and having my car break down didn't help, but that's not the point. The point is....
This thread is updated!
We are moving on!
The Moveset Discussion is finally over!
This means we can actually discuss something different. (yeah I got sick of the exclamation marks, just read the rest with unnecessary enthusiasm)
We are now discussing Combos. But wait, I know you're just busting to start posting and I can understand how you're feeling, but because this is a whole new discussion, it means I've gotta make sure you know what we're discussing. This is just so I get the right kind of feedback I'm looking for, so yes, unfortunately you will need to read this next short paragraph.
Take for example the simple Bair chain. What will we discuss? We'll need to discuss how best to start it, how best to continue it for as long as possible, different strategies (just for things like baiting responses), personal preferences and a whole heap of stuff that it's hard to describe in words just now that I'll add later if I need to. As for which combos we should discuss, that's entirely up to you to choose. Just keep in mind that we're talking about strings of attacks/projectiles, not what you can throw out in one SH. So things like the Bair chain as I mentioned, the Utilt chain, Bomb to anything, returning boomerang to anything, Zair to many things, these are all strings of attacks that are to a certain extent extremely hard to get out of (once you get hit initially) to the point where we can call them combos.
I have given you the freedom to talk about whatever you want for now (combo related of course, see last paragraph), but later on, I'll probably go more in depth with some combos that I think need more detail. This time, unlike last time, I'll write a combo up and we can still talk about it straight away if you want more added or something corrected. This is a trial run, if it doesn't work out, we'll have to go back to the original 'one at a time' stuffs.
And with that, I'm done for now. Discuss!!!!!!! (I couldn't help myself, just count those as exclaimated exclamation marks)
I finally got some spare time. I've been so busy lately 24/7 and having my car break down didn't help, but that's not the point. The point is....
This thread is updated!
We are moving on!
The Moveset Discussion is finally over!
This means we can actually discuss something different. (yeah I got sick of the exclamation marks, just read the rest with unnecessary enthusiasm)
We are now discussing Combos. But wait, I know you're just busting to start posting and I can understand how you're feeling, but because this is a whole new discussion, it means I've gotta make sure you know what we're discussing. This is just so I get the right kind of feedback I'm looking for, so yes, unfortunately you will need to read this next short paragraph.
Take for example the simple Bair chain. What will we discuss? We'll need to discuss how best to start it, how best to continue it for as long as possible, different strategies (just for things like baiting responses), personal preferences and a whole heap of stuff that it's hard to describe in words just now that I'll add later if I need to. As for which combos we should discuss, that's entirely up to you to choose. Just keep in mind that we're talking about strings of attacks/projectiles, not what you can throw out in one SH. So things like the Bair chain as I mentioned, the Utilt chain, Bomb to anything, returning boomerang to anything, Zair to many things, these are all strings of attacks that are to a certain extent extremely hard to get out of (once you get hit initially) to the point where we can call them combos.
I have given you the freedom to talk about whatever you want for now (combo related of course, see last paragraph), but later on, I'll probably go more in depth with some combos that I think need more detail. This time, unlike last time, I'll write a combo up and we can still talk about it straight away if you want more added or something corrected. This is a trial run, if it doesn't work out, we'll have to go back to the original 'one at a time' stuffs.
And with that, I'm done for now. Discuss!!!!!!! (I couldn't help myself, just count those as exclaimated exclamation marks)
Did I miss something? What happened to all the Toon Links? I know I've been away for a while but seriously, it just seems a bit dead atm. I hope it's just one of those phases that the boards go through. I was expecting to write something up..... maybe I'll just fix the pics in my other thread.
To anyone that's still out there, let's hear some thoughts on our topic of discussion please. I can't do this all on my own.
(well I can, but it won't be that great, so yeah)
To anyone that's still out there, let's hear some thoughts on our topic of discussion please. I can't do this all on my own.
(well I can, but it won't be that great, so yeah)
TLMSheikant
Smash Master
They all died. Even me...lol
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
welp idk much about tls combos but umm
at low percents is the best time to try any kind of combo because well they wont fly as far known combos include
bair bair to foostool to dair: this is when your ONSTAGE and you bair yolur opponent twice then footstool them to put their *** back on the ground then dair now the first hit wil work but some people will shield the next dair if they do you should let go of dair if not youll end up having a laggy dair right near them but if you manage to hit them with the second dair you could follow up with a fast falled bair then go from there
bair to bair to nair to nair: lol be fast when you try this fast fall the nairs
up tilt tilt to bair string
kizzu combo...bair to bair to bair then footstool to dair them offstage i recommend you not try this unless
....just dont try it offstage ******* lol
im the amount of bairs i say in each combo varies so ye experiment
projectiles
this ones pretty solid not much a combo as it is a (possible)shield breaker:
pull a bomb throw your boomerang the other way(as in behind you not towards your opponent) run past them turn around wavebounce arrow cancel throw the bomb run rar bair them you should catch the bomb while bairing there shield
so the boomerang should hit thier shield the two arrows should the bomb should and your sword should depening on your timing the bomb might explode while your baring in that case you can dair down and bounce them up with dair then nair or somethen
grounded up b to thrown bomb at low percents works
pull a bomb AD zair to z drop bomb nair t recatch then throw it ? lol
umm thats just some stuff that was on my mind you guys ca disregard it fix it up call it wrong if you want im just trying to get this thread moving again
at low percents is the best time to try any kind of combo because well they wont fly as far known combos include
bair bair to foostool to dair: this is when your ONSTAGE and you bair yolur opponent twice then footstool them to put their *** back on the ground then dair now the first hit wil work but some people will shield the next dair if they do you should let go of dair if not youll end up having a laggy dair right near them but if you manage to hit them with the second dair you could follow up with a fast falled bair then go from there
bair to bair to nair to nair: lol be fast when you try this fast fall the nairs
up tilt tilt to bair string
kizzu combo...bair to bair to bair then footstool to dair them offstage i recommend you not try this unless
....just dont try it offstage ******* lol
im the amount of bairs i say in each combo varies so ye experiment
projectiles
this ones pretty solid not much a combo as it is a (possible)shield breaker:
pull a bomb throw your boomerang the other way(as in behind you not towards your opponent) run past them turn around wavebounce arrow cancel throw the bomb run rar bair them you should catch the bomb while bairing there shield
so the boomerang should hit thier shield the two arrows should the bomb should and your sword should depening on your timing the bomb might explode while your baring in that case you can dair down and bounce them up with dair then nair or somethen
grounded up b to thrown bomb at low percents works
pull a bomb AD zair to z drop bomb nair t recatch then throw it ? lol
umm thats just some stuff that was on my mind you guys ca disregard it fix it up call it wrong if you want im just trying to get this thread moving again
Ok then. It is apparent that this discussion will need some structure.
Listen carefully, or rather, read carefully.
I'll do the combos one at a time. Starting with the Bair combo.
Because the Bair combo is so diverse, I shall outline a few areas we shall be exploring in particular.
When you post, I'd appreciate it if you could answer the following questions as best you can. The questions however are more like guidelines, so if you want to go into more detail about anything or if there's something I haven't mentioned that you believe is needed or if you want to stray off topic because you deem it relevant, feel free.
How do you start a Bair chain? By spacing? Punishing (punishing what, laggy moves, airdodges/spotdodges/rolls)? Combo into it (with what)? All of the above (then do tell)? Anything else I haven't mentioned?
How long will you continue the Bair chain? As long as possible (how do you keep it going)? A few hits and then gtfo (how many hits are we talking)? What tells you that you should stop (the get too far away, instinct)?
How do you finish the Bair chain? Do you have a finishing move or sequence of moves (if so, descibe how to pull it off)? Do you space yourself and resume spam? (Answers will of course vary in certain situations, so describe the situation and say how you finish it. Situations could be on/off stage close to the ground or high up.)
What kind of percents are we talking about here? What percents is it best started and finished on (just roughly. percents will of course vary with characters and staling)? How much percentage do you think we can rack up (can this be improved on)?
What can be done to escape the Bair chain and how do you deal with it? Things like DI, SDI, airdodging, moves with invincibility frames at the start and MK should be discussed here, not to mention of course, how to deal with it (no this is not a MK discussion thread XD).
Any general info you have on the Bair chain that hasn't been mentioned yet? Any misc info?
But that should pretty much cover it. As you can see, it's not too much of a hassle (well I don't think so, but... you never know). Once we're done with the Bair chain, I'll write it up and let you know what's next.
Listen carefully, or rather, read carefully.
I'll do the combos one at a time. Starting with the Bair combo.
Because the Bair combo is so diverse, I shall outline a few areas we shall be exploring in particular.
When you post, I'd appreciate it if you could answer the following questions as best you can. The questions however are more like guidelines, so if you want to go into more detail about anything or if there's something I haven't mentioned that you believe is needed or if you want to stray off topic because you deem it relevant, feel free.
How do you start a Bair chain? By spacing? Punishing (punishing what, laggy moves, airdodges/spotdodges/rolls)? Combo into it (with what)? All of the above (then do tell)? Anything else I haven't mentioned?
How long will you continue the Bair chain? As long as possible (how do you keep it going)? A few hits and then gtfo (how many hits are we talking)? What tells you that you should stop (the get too far away, instinct)?
How do you finish the Bair chain? Do you have a finishing move or sequence of moves (if so, descibe how to pull it off)? Do you space yourself and resume spam? (Answers will of course vary in certain situations, so describe the situation and say how you finish it. Situations could be on/off stage close to the ground or high up.)
What kind of percents are we talking about here? What percents is it best started and finished on (just roughly. percents will of course vary with characters and staling)? How much percentage do you think we can rack up (can this be improved on)?
What can be done to escape the Bair chain and how do you deal with it? Things like DI, SDI, airdodging, moves with invincibility frames at the start and MK should be discussed here, not to mention of course, how to deal with it (no this is not a MK discussion thread XD).
Any general info you have on the Bair chain that hasn't been mentioned yet? Any misc info?
But that should pretty much cover it. As you can see, it's not too much of a hassle (well I don't think so, but... you never know). Once we're done with the Bair chain, I'll write it up and let you know what's next.
Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
ill answer these later on today
Kaffei
Smash Hero
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What the heck is your avavar "This is what tourney***s actually believe" I wanna read the whole tiny *** text
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Thebest1pj
Pinnacle of Projectile Placement.
there i was gone allll day thats why i never posted about it sorry lol
Just to clarify, when I said, what can be done to escape the Bair chain and how do you deal with it, I meant what can the opponent do to escape the Bair chain and how do we deal with it. Simple example, they airdodge to escape it, how do you counter this? It seems simple, because it is. Another example, they try to SDI the bair in any given direction, how do you continue the Bair chain (answers will include how to deal with most directions).
Anyway. Great replies guys! I think I might have to ask specific questions from now on in that same style so we can keep the discussion going.
Feel free to reply if you haven't so far. I'll write this up when I get a chance (I'm still kinda loaded down with work atm).
Cheers.
Anyway. Great replies guys! I think I might have to ask specific questions from now on in that same style so we can keep the discussion going.
Feel free to reply if you haven't so far. I'll write this up when I get a chance (I'm still kinda loaded down with work atm).
Cheers.