The Solid Snake for Smash DLC thread! Such a lust for Smash news....WHOOOOOOOO?

[Katty Shepherd]

I want all of them!
Every one!
Plus one with Snake shirtless...
Wait a minute...

No.
BB what are you doing?!
NO!!
Jesus f***ing s*** why?!
That's not how you salute you dummy!
You're not shading your eyes on a sunny day! You're saluting! What disgrace s*** of a salute is that?!
When you salute in America. You're arm is perfectly straight, the tips of your right hand fingers barely brushes the side of your brow, your left hand is by your side on the seam of your trousers, and fingers arranged like your gripping a role of quarters. Your heels are together, toes facing apart at a 45 degree angle. You salute from attention, not freaking parade rest! This is breaking so may rules I just... no.
Naturally there's some variation, you can salute while walking, while in a car, etc. But I'm 99% sure that is 100% incorrect.

I'm replying to myself but there's more.
His uniform is so off it hurts. I can't even tell what he's wearing like for real.
One, if he's in a dress uniform than he's wearing those uncomfortable spit-shine shoes not combat boots. Two, men's uniform in the army has belts, and there's a thing knows as a gig line where everything has to line up, he has neither. Three, he doesn't have a rank. Three, for special forces been in the army 15+ years he sure doesn't have many ribbons. Four, his hair shouldn't be touching the collar, the only time you could get away with Snake's hair is if it was ethnic (maybe) but it would still have to be off the collar and probably in a bun. Five, I'm pretty sure he needs a name tag. Six, I'm not sure but his beret is probably wrong and knowing my brother's experiences with berets (he's Army) they're damn near impossible to get right. Seven, he's missing the army emblems on his lapels, there's little gold buttons that go there on either side.
To contrast this is an actual Green Beret from 1960:

And here's one in color.

This is the same guy, Staff Sergeant Berry Sadler, Special forces infantry green beret aproxmentaly in the late 1960's.
I don't want this as an alt if this is what it's going to look like. Of course I don't really expect it.
Sorry for the rant guys.

How to you think Konami would react if Snake's not in SSBU/3DS.\

Forget that how would I react?

Sakurai. We're not tools of Nintendo or Konami, or anyone else. Fighting in Super Smash Bros was the only... the only thing I was good at. But... at least I always fought for what I believed in. Fighting against the other legendary Nintendo and Third Party Characters!

+1

 

[cmbsfm]

How to you think Konami would react if Snake's not in SSBU/3DS.

I guess they would not have second thoughts of supporting the wii u and stuff. They dont need the advertisement in smash but they would welcome it. If snake isnt in they would already know anyway.Snake being back in would mean Nintendo and Konami's relationship getting better.

 

[Twin Shot]

How to you think Konami would react if Snake's not in SSBU/3DS.

I think that they would know even before us. Sure, even with Kojima involved, they would still hold some say.

Don't think they would deny Snake. Just a question of if they were asked in the end.

"Hey Konami! We would like to include Snake in the newest Smash Brothers Game again because he was such a huge success in the last game. I noticed that you guys also have a new Metal Gear Game coming out! You help us sell the system, we can help you sell games by including Snake!"

This is why I don't understand the logic of NOT having him in the game. Just, really really doesn't make sense. Despite what smash fans think, you are not hurting anyone by including him.

 

[Twin Shot]

One of my favorite series of dialogue in any MGS game:

"Arrrrrg, don't be an idiot.
You know you have someone to protect."

"It was never going to work out for me. It even rained the day I was born."

"You've got it all wrong. You were lightning in the rain..
You can still shine through the darkness."


Then...later on BAM

"I am lightning. The rain transformed."

Hope we will get the feeling that it will turn around for us.
People want to think what they want, and it's way easier to just go with the community for almost no reason (except for the fact that it's easier), so everyone that still supports Snake means even more. It's awesome and thank you.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

How to you think Konami would react if Snake's not in SSBU/3DS.

If he's not, make no mistake, Konami is the reason why. They'll already know.

 

[Skyfox2000]

If he's not, make no mistake, Konami is the reason why. They'll already know.

What do you mean "Konami is the reason why" I don't think they would mind would they?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

One of my favorite series of dialogue in any MGS game:

"Arrrrrg, don't be an idiot.
You know you have someone to protect."

He says "don't be weird" in MGS2 when Raiden asked if Rose existed. I like that better.

Makes me think of when Sora says "you're stupid!" in the first Kingdom Hearts.

How to you think Konami would react if Snake's not in SSBU/3DS.

"Oh well. Let's put in Simon Belmont instead! "
But I'd love to have both Snake and Simon in Smash, even though I'm not a Castlevania fan.

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[Twin Shot]

Exactly, because it would be a dumb move because you don't gain anything from denying it, when you could gain a lot from allowing it.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I'm replying to myself but there's more.
His uniform is so off it hurts. I can't even tell what he's wearing like for real.
One, if he's in a dress uniform than he's wearing those uncomfortable spit-shine shoes not combat boots. Two, men's uniform in the army has belts, and there's a thing knows as a gig line where everything has to line up, he has neither. Three, he doesn't have a rank. Three, for special forces been in the army 15+ years he sure doesn't have many ribbons. Four, his hair shouldn't be touching the collar, the only time you could get away with Snake's hair is if it was ethnic (maybe) but it would still have to be off the collar and probably in a bun. Five, I'm pretty sure he needs a name tag. Six, I'm not sure but his beret is probably wrong and knowing my brother's experiences with berets (he's Army) they're damn near impossible to get right. Seven, he's missing the army emblems on his lapels, there's little gold buttons that go there on either side.
To contrast this is an actual Green Beret from 1960:

And here's one in color.

This is the same guy, Staff Sergeant Berry Sadler, Special forces infantry green beret aproxmentaly in the late 1960's.
I don't want this as an alt if this is what it's going to look like. Of course I don't really expect it.
Sorry for the rant guys.

Forget that how would I react?

+1

Your dedication is admirable madam.

But snake doesnt play by their rules, especially once he left the country

 

[Twin Shot]

I just need to say...Gaseous Snake...he somewhat scares me...

*Edit. I will most likely not be able to sleep soundly*

 

[Katty Shepherd]

Your dedication is admirable madam.

But snake doesnt play by their rules, especially once he left the country

Haha, that's great.
But yeah, I have few buttons and getting details like that is one of them. To me, who has spent a large amount of time around military members and plans on becoming one getting uniform/ a salute wrong is one of the greatest insults that you can cast on them. I spend two plus hours once a week getting an ROTC uniform ready for inspection that day or the day before, I shine my shoes (harder than it sounds), I even get everything just so with a ruler and I sent that uniform to the dry cleaners every so often. It's not only that, the amount these people give--those who have served that is-- is astounding, if a writer can't take the fifteen minutes to Google a proper salute so they can get the they deserve than they can got to an unpleasant place. Same thing with the uniform.
Snake shook the president's hand and was probably the headline of news looking like this, Not only would he never get away with it, they would at least force him to shave.
That would definitely make him rebel.

 

[Ekans647]

I'm replying to myself but there's more.
His uniform is so off it hurts. I can't even tell what he's wearing like for real.
One, if he's in a dress uniform than he's wearing those uncomfortable spit-shine shoes not combat boots. Two, men's uniform in the army has belts, and there's a thing knows as a gig line where everything has to line up, he has neither. Three, he doesn't have a rank. Three, for special forces been in the army 15+ years he sure doesn't have many ribbons. Four, his hair shouldn't be touching the collar, the only time you could get away with Snake's hair is if it was ethnic (maybe) but it would still have to be off the collar and probably in a bun. Five, I'm pretty sure he needs a name tag. Six, I'm not sure but his beret is probably wrong and knowing my brother's experiences with berets (he's Army) they're damn near impossible to get right. Seven, he's missing the army emblems on his lapels, there's little gold buttons that go there on either side.
To contrast this is an actual Green Beret from 1960:

And here's one in color.

This is the same guy, Staff Sergeant Berry Sadler, Special forces infantry green beret aproxmentaly in the late 1960's.
I don't want this as an alt if this is what it's going to look like. Of course I don't really expect it.
Sorry for the rant guys.

Forget that how would I react?

+1

Wow. You know your stuff. I knew the salute was off, but I would have never noticed the uniform. As Ocelot would say: "You're pretty good. :D

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I read that Kojima will be at comicon signing stuff, don't know if it means anything with the smash bros 3ds tourney, but you never know so we will have to keep an eye on that.

 

[Skyfox2000]

I read that Kojima will be at comicon signing stuff, don't know if it means anything with the smash bros 3ds tourney, but you never know so we will have to keep an eye on that.

Is Sakurai going? We need to find someone that's going and get him to ask him!

 

[cmbsfm]

Is Sakurai going? We need to find someone that's going and get him to ask him!

I doubt that he would be able to answer, he would probably give the same answer as he did in the livestream.
He'd have to sign many things so he wouldn't have time to answer, unless someone can get to talk to him in private.

Also I wonder he would watch the tourney, probably not.

 

[Skyfox2000]

I doubt that he would be able to answer, he would probably give the same answer as he did in the livestream.
He'd have to sign many things so he wouldn't have time to answer, unless someone can get to talk to him in private.

Also I wonder he would watch the tourney, probably not.

If he has to sign autographs all day I doubt it! How old is Kojima's son now?

 

[BluePikmin11]

This is a strange topic, but Snake deconfirmed?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69673699
I don't know much about ESRB ratings and how they work though.

 

[Skyfox2000]

This is a strange topic, but Snake deconfirmed?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69673699
I don't know much about ESRB ratings and how they work though.

Why was Melee and Brawl rated T for anyway?

 

[cmbsfm]

This is a strange topic, but Snake deconfirmed?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69673699
I don't know much about ESRB ratings and how they work though.

Yeah this was mentioned before but I don't think so.

Snake has been in a game that was rated E before,called metal gear solid ghost babel.
The thing is though, that game had many mature themes, including snake smoking in the intro, offering campbell a drink, jimmy harks being blown to bits, one of the bosses being a serial killer, guns(but no blood), and more.

I think ESRB has been going easier on games lately, due to the fact that games like Dark Souls and Destiny have been getting T ratings.
Snake is safe considering the fact that he probably has no guns with him, and no blood comes from any of the fighters and stuff. One thing I would be concerned of through is his grab and choke, but I doubt it could affect the ratings.

 

[Megadoomer]

Not sure for Melee, but Brawl was rated T for cartoon violence and crude humour - Snake's inclusion didn't seem to have anything to do with it.

Edit: Melee was for Comic Mischief (whatever that means) and mild violence.

 

[AncientArk]

Wasn't the T ratings in previous games because of the Fox laser guns that look like real world guns?

 

[Skyfox2000]

Well which character got the "Crude Humor" rating in Brawl?

 

[cmbsfm]

Also, conker(from conker's bad fur day.) is in that project spark game rated e10, so I doubt the character itself could cause a change in ratings.

 

[Katty Shepherd]

Wow. You know your stuff. I knew the salute was off, but I would have never noticed the uniform. As Ocelot would say: "You're pretty good. :D

Haha, yeah, I didn't notice the uniform at first but then I took a look at his shoes and I though "wait a minute..." and it went down hill from there.

Also, conker(from conker's bad fur day.) is in that project spark game rated e10, so I doubt the character itself could cause a change in ratings.

ESRB is so weird, some guys get E10 ratings others don't. Twilight Princess is considered the darkest game (contested with Majora's Mask) in the LoZ series because of it's T rating. Smash is fighting, T rating sounds about right given all the stuff in it. The rating doesn't prove or disprove Snake.

 

[cmbsfm]

Haha, yeah, I didn't notice the uniform at first but then I took a look at his shoes and I though "wait a minute..." and it went down hill from there.

ESRB is so weird, some guys get E10 ratings others don't. Twilight Princess is considered the darkest game (contested with Majora's Mask) in the LoZ series because of it's T rating. Smash is fighting, T rating sounds about right given all the stuff in it. The rating doesn't prove or disprove Snake.

Like I said ESRB has been going easy lately for some reason(maybe cause they realized that a lot of parents are not caring about ESRB and buy their kids Mature rated games lol.) Since games like Dark Souls and Destiny are getting T ratings rather than M, I'm not surprised Smash got E10

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Well which character got the "Crude Humor" rating in Brawl?

Didn't we just discuss this recently? It was wario for the farts.

So no snake not deconfirmed

 

[Skyfox2000]

Didn't we just discuss this recently? It was wario for the farts.

So no snake not deconfirmed

So Wario is no longer going to fart in Smash?

 

[Skyfox2000]

Sakurai has a "Special Surprise" for us at Comic-Con
https://www.facebook.com/2241731377...4173137756374/300089866831367/?type=1&theater

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Sakurai has a "Special Surprise" for us at Comic-Con
https://www.facebook.com/2241731377...4173137756374/300089866831367/?type=1&theater

I doubt it really means anything. I mean... "Kept you waiting, huh?" would be cool and all, but it's probably nothing important.

 

[Katty Shepherd]

I doubt it really means anything. I mean... "Kept you waiting, huh?" would be cool and all, but it's probably nothing important.

At least a veteran... maybe a Snake veteran?
Who am I kidding? I just want Snake.

 

[Davidius]

"Mild Suggestive themes"? Clearly referring to Snake's lust for Samus, Snake confirmed.

of course it's probably just Samus' skintight suit

 

[cmbsfm]

I think they should make snake the last character to reveal, considering he would have spied on the all the fighters to get info on them and stuff.

 

[Tikivoy]

While I originally thought that ESRB stuff wouldn't bode well due to the chokehold, Skyward Sword did get by with impalement, so I guess it means nothing.

Special surprise should be interesting. If its too soon to reveal a newcomer, there's really only one vet who'd get his own trailer...

 

[cmbsfm]

Special surprise should be interesting. If its too soon to reveal a newcomer, there's really only one vet who'd get his own trailer...

mr. game and watch!?!?

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I think they should make snake the last character to reveal, considering he would have spied on the all the fighters to get info on them and stuff.

No way, even at the prospect of it going towards his characters personality it would give me a heart attack if they kept us in suspense for all that time. Although if hes not in it would be like that too

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On the former subject of costumes

Id of course like the peace walker sneaking suit, its the best of both worlds.

Sleek design, shiny surfaces seem to look great in the wiiu version so the texture and gold bands would look superb. It has a very nice overall look and could give him a different feel with a bit more to break up his overall color.

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The ones you guys listed are most of the good ones so there isnt too much left.

Although they could go out of left field and give him an acid alt

Spoiler

 

[Skyfox2000]

Do you guy's think a Venom Snake alt. would be to much?

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Do you guy's think a Venom Snake alt. would be to much?

possibly, his disfigurement might be an issue.

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Speaking of figures, i dont know if any of you collect them but snake just got a new figma figure. They have already made a few nintendo characters as well, i definitely have to get him to keep my smash bros set going.

Mgs2 version ta boot!

 

[cmbsfm]

Yeah I would want to see how the snake Amiibo looks like

 

[Tikivoy]

Do you guy's think a Venom Snake alt. would be to much?

Yes...but having that Shrapnel horn in a game like this would be the best thing ever.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

People not understanding they keep Snake for the end so he can say "Kept you waiting huh ?"...
Sure he is in.