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I didn’t expect this interaction either in Pokemon Masters:

New mode is cool but also kind of sucks. If you don’t summon for the new sync pairs, it makes it pretty hard to build the free one you get in this mode. Which is a shame because they give you a lot of options to customize their grid.
To be fair they are both from Unova technically. Must be something in the water. lol

But yeah, the new event/mode sucks. It's a real shame as it's obvious they put a lot of effort into it and I think most don't exactly hate the idea, but in execution they dropped the ball.

While some of the battles are technically RNG, the game doesn't reward you for changing your team comp and kind of punishes you for not having the new highlight units you have to scout for given how much of a boost they provide to the end of battle rewards you receive. The Mid/Final Bosses of a run also don't change, so there again isn't much of an incentive to change strategy.

The rewards themselves aren't much to scoff at either. Rosa is adorable and having a custom kit is amusing on paper but she somehow is both more and less customizable than every other unit in the game except for Jessie/James and the Eggmons:
1. Even if you max her HP/Def/Sp Def out, she's still among the frailest units in the game even if Eggmons are factored in. She has cool stuff in her kit, but unless you have a Max Tank unit, it's hard for her to last all that long to actually use the cool stuff.
2. Her default Move is Energy Ball, so it's kind of dead weight if choose to go with a physical move set. Which sucks as Bullet Seed is almost guranteed flinch, which can cheese a lot of battles.
3. Unlike every other unit, you can only have a single kit at a time that once created and it cannot be edited or re-arranged. The only way you can change her kit is by getting lucky with the mode's RNG so that you get the same resources you had before and are okay with deleting the prior kit. The event/mode has not yet been confirmed to be a permanent mode either, so if the event ends, you potentially end up with a "custom" unit that has less customization options than other units.

To even play the mode, you have to also use limited Stamina. If you somehow fail at the Mid/Final Bosses, you don't get any retries and don't get any rewards. You also don't get any rewards to use on other units besides Rosa either. It takes 5 full runs to obtain all of the non-RNG rewards for Rosa, but given all of the other issues with the mode, it just turns into a grindfest at best and takes away Stamina from other more useful areas of the game. This mode doesn't feel like it's made for either veteran or newcoming players.

If they want to fix this mode:
1. Allow for more than one custom grid that you can freely switch between. Or allow for us to reallocate resources while still being limited to the resources that were obtained.
2. Get rid of Stamina or at least get rid of it for subsequent runs.
3. Change up the Mid/Final Bosses so it's not the same unit each time. Offer a reason to play with a different moveset.
4. Increase the base defensive stats of the unit. They should be at least 1.5x the current max base with EX Role unlocked; so 82 to 123.
5. If you want to offer extra boosts for featured units that's fine, but do offer more for other units or make it based off of the battle you're facing (train us how to make effective teams) or have the units on your team for that battle offer rewards beyond a simple mulitplier. Ex. Having a Support on your team boosts Blue (Base Stat) Grid Orbs or a Stike boosts Red (Attacking) Grid Orbs.

DENA has been good about fan feedback, at least generally compared to a lot of companies such as Niantic/Pokemon Go, but it does bug me that they thought releasing this mode in this state, especially after having already delivered on a great Rougelike mode with Battle Rally, was a good idea. The Prestige Event from years back still stands as their most anti-F2P moment, so by comparison this stands as their dumbest moment IMO.
 

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Switch 2 Bingo



Even have honorable mentions:
-Like A Dragon
-Native Social Features
-PS5 Style Backwards Compatibility (purchasable enhanced versions)
-Remedy Entertainment Games
-Deltarune
 
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I'm seeing a lot of people float around the idea of a Mario & Donkey Kong 3D platform. So not just a new Mario or a new Donkey Kong, but the two teaming up to take down a bigger threat. Or perhaps a standard 3D Mario game, but DK plays a big role as a supporting character.

Initially I thought it sounded pretty weird, but I'm seeing a LOT of people who'd like to see that. Especially after their frenemies dynamic in the movie.

How would YOU feel about a game like that?

Save your 15-paragraph rant SnakeFighter64 SnakeFighter64 I already know you'd hate it :079:
I had so many ideas for this premise though a lot of them consist of big cinematic set pieces set to remixes like these

Like this set to a mine cart riding section with Mario and DK having to fend off Shy Guys in carts and the like

And Mario and DK bursting through a fleet of pirate/air ships and running up a tower of steel grinders and dodging barrels to face the dual bosses of Bowser and K Rool
 

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Beyond the Spider-Verse drops June 4th, 2027
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The first footage from ‘BEYOND THE SOIDER-VERSE’ reveals Miles & Gwen reuniting + Miles fighting The Prowler before going on an adventure with him.

The animation style had some innovative new techniques too.


Phill Lord says ‘BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE’ is “bigger than the past two” films.

Also states the film starts right where the last film ended…

Described as a MASSIVE finale…
 
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from big Spider-Man news to April Fools + Daredevil to Switch 2 direct…wild first 3 weekdays (whoopsies accidental double post down below)
 
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Beyond the Spider-Verse drops June 4th, 2027
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The first footage from ‘BEYOND THE SOIDER-VERSE’ reveals Miles & Gwen reuniting + Miles fighting The Prowler before going on an adventure with him.

The animation style had some innovative new techniques too.


Phill Lord says ‘BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE’ is “bigger than the past two” films.

Also states the film starts right where the last film ended…

Described as a MASSIVE finale…
If this is an April Fools prank I am going to become the Joker
 

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To be fair they are both from Unova technically. Must be something in the water. lol

But yeah, the new event/mode sucks. It's a real shame as it's obvious they put a lot of effort into it and I think most don't exactly hate the idea, but in execution they dropped the ball.

While some of the battles are technically RNG, the game doesn't reward you for changing your team comp and kind of punishes you for not having the new highlight units you have to scout for given how much of a boost they provide to the end of battle rewards you receive. The Mid/Final Bosses of a run also don't change, so there again isn't much of an incentive to change strategy.

The rewards themselves aren't much to scoff at either. Rosa is adorable and having a custom kit is amusing on paper but she somehow is both more and less customizable than every other unit in the game except for Jessie/James and the Eggmons:
1. Even if you max her HP/Def/Sp Def out, she's still among the frailest units in the game even if Eggmons are factored in. She has cool stuff in her kit, but unless you have a Max Tank unit, it's hard for her to last all that long to actually use the cool stuff.
2. Her default Move is Energy Ball, so it's kind of dead weight if choose to go with a physical move set. Which sucks as Bullet Seed is almost guranteed flinch, which can cheese a lot of battles.
3. Unlike every other unit, you can only have a single kit at a time that once created and it cannot be edited or re-arranged. The only way you can change her kit is by getting lucky with the mode's RNG so that you get the same resources you had before and are okay with deleting the prior kit. The event/mode has not yet been confirmed to be a permanent mode either, so if the event ends, you potentially end up with a "custom" unit that has less customization options than other units.

To even play the mode, you have to also use limited Stamina. If you somehow fail at the Mid/Final Bosses, you don't get any retries and don't get any rewards. You also don't get any rewards to use on other units besides Rosa either. It takes 5 full runs to obtain all of the non-RNG rewards for Rosa, but given all of the other issues with the mode, it just turns into a grindfest at best and takes away Stamina from other more useful areas of the game. This mode doesn't feel like it's made for either veteran or newcoming players.

If they want to fix this mode:
1. Allow for more than one custom grid that you can freely switch between. Or allow for us to reallocate resources while still being limited to the resources that were obtained.
2. Get rid of Stamina or at least get rid of it for subsequent runs.
3. Change up the Mid/Final Bosses so it's not the same unit each time. Offer a reason to play with a different moveset.
4. Increase the base defensive stats of the unit. They should be at least 1.5x the current max base with EX Role unlocked; so 82 to 123.
5. If you want to offer extra boosts for featured units that's fine, but do offer more for other units or make it based off of the battle you're facing (train us how to make effective teams) or have the units on your team for that battle offer rewards beyond a simple mulitplier. Ex. Having a Support on your team boosts Blue (Base Stat) Grid Orbs or a Stike boosts Red (Attacking) Grid Orbs.

DENA has been good about fan feedback, at least generally compared to a lot of companies such as Niantic/Pokemon Go, but it does bug me that they thought releasing this mode in this state, especially after having already delivered on a great Rougelike mode with Battle Rally, was a good idea. The Prestige Event from years back still stands as their most anti-F2P moment, so by comparison this stands as their dumbest moment IMO.
Honestly some great feedback for the event. I think a good start would be if the unit has no moves and we get a tm orb to start each run. Allowing us to choose a move that does damage out of the gate and unlocking the rest and other paths from there.

Removing stamina would be a plus, or if we are going to be forced to use it, maybe let us add to grids each run instead of resetting.

Or more stages maybe to do a better grind for orbs.

I really hope they lower the cost of then HP and defensive stats or Buff the actual unit stats like you mentioned.

Not much of a point to building the unit if their stats suck first and foremost. Hopefully they get good in game feedback and improve this mode from here.

also it’s not permanent. The event says it ends like April 19th I believe. Which means if you get a bad unit out of it, the event sucks for you lol. I hope we get more gens too. As getting A rank does nothing right now.
 
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Speaking of Spider-Man:
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This title was leaked with official copyrights and a plot synopsis awhile back. So here’s potentially the plot of the film:
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the fact that the logo reveal for Spider-Man: Brand New Day has 190k likes from the official Spidey movie account alone…that’s power right there
 

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Honestly some great feedback for the event. I think a good start would be if the unit has no moves and we get a tm orb to start each run. Allowing us to choose a move that does damage out of the gate and unlocking the rest and other paths from there.

Removing stamina would be a plus, or if we are going to be forced to use it, maybe let us add to grids each run instead of resetting.

Or more stages maybe to do a better grind for orbs.

I really hope they lower the cost of then HP and defensive stats or Buff the actual unit stats like you mentioned.

Not much of a point to building the unit if their stats suck first and foremost. Hopefully they get good in game feedback and improve this mode from here.

also it’s not permanent. The event says it ends like April 19th I believe. Which means if you get a bad unit out of it, the event sucks for you lol. I hope we get more gens too. As getting A rank does nothing right now.
I agree as well. Having Dire Hit on her grid felt pointless as both Attack/Spe Attack offered Crit Boosts. That could have easily been reserved for an Energy Ball upgrade path instead.

It feels really weird to have her as the Mascot for this mode as Rosa is basically a glass cannon unit no matter how you build her. You would have thought that a more balanced unit would have been the highlight. I was actually kind of surprised as when I first read about this mode before the Datamine, I thought you'd be able to fight against certain units to build exp towards a Sync Pair role of your choice like Strike or Support, but no she's just a Field unit.

Looking at the Datamine, I assume you can use Rosa in future events, but you may not get the same reward boost so training her will be a lot more frustrating. I haven't so far seen a F2P player make it to S+ Rank on her Grid; although there was one person on Reddit who beat Cresselia solo by cheesing Bullet Seed flinch.

Florian for later this month seems to at least be more focused as a Support unit and as such is easier to build around and is just more useful in general. You give him max HP/Defenses, a Support Trainer Move of your choice, and then just spam 1-Bar Tackle the rest of the match. Too bad he doesn't have an EX Color; units that don't have them are a turn off to me.

Ironically though as I complain, I still like Rosa and I do like her new outfit so I did at least finish the Event enough times to EX her and gave her a Sprint Role Cake. Too bad they didn't give us her 5/5 unlike previous F2P units as there isn't much reason to invest in her any further.

This the Grid that I think I'll stick with. I'm missing out on Bullet Seed cheese but I think I value Sun and especially having max defenses more. The only way I think I could optimize this more is if I took out a few green orbs and got some extra red orbs instead. The lost time/Stamina in playing with the RNG doesn't seem to be worth it though.

With this she is basically a F2P version of SS Acerola with a greater focus on dealing damage and debuffing.
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We're in the month of April now, which means either this month or next I will finally after over a year of waiting get my hands on Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution (GBA version)¡

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Ah heck yeah Regulation I is Double Restricted, I can finally use that Zacian/Kyogre/Regidrago core I've wanted to use for a long time!

Time to get back into VGC for a few more weeks again before getting bored of it again and forgetting about it until the next regulation.
 

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I figured the last day should be a big Switch release and well, what better game to do that on a website called Smashboards? Everyone on this website at least fundamentally enjoys this series and the biggest game yet, the one I've spent almost 400 hours on just at home is a very special game indeed, I remember hanging out with my friends in 2018 watching this get shown off together, heading to Gamescom and finding out we'd get to play together and me and a ****boy friend instantly deciding on doing a Ganondorf ditto to continue our Dorf Patrol bit, meeting so many cool people through this website, having a few low stakes tournaments with close friends, ******** about the online for barely working when a friend from a city over can't play with me without a noticable amount of lag, a good friend and me growing closer due to him sharing his love of CastleVania while selling me his copies of Portrait of Ruin and Dawn of Sorrow to let me experience those masterpieces, meeting all sorts of cool people on this website, talking about games I'd never heard of before but being so enthusiastic about them that I simply had to try, making me a lifelong fan, beating World of Light while getting my hands on every Spirit and in game achievement. While me and my buddies haven't had the chance to play in a while, I did actually meet up with someone really cool who used to be on this website irl as she happened to be in the country on vacation, giving me an unforgettable experience. There's so many memories with this game, listening to music on the website prerelease, checking out rumours, funny moments when playing with friends, even making a montage video with friends. I daresay that out of any multiplayer game, this one has given me the most joy in my life.


Also, special thank you to everyone here who checked out these dumb, amateurish write ups, it's been very fun and I feel pretty touched that my Celeste write up made the thread gush about it for a page or two. Y'all are cool
 
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