Social The Social Thread 3.2.2 - Switch 2 Hype Time!

[TMNTSSB4]

XBox hasn't been selling all that well, especially in foreign markets. Microsoft's latest strategy has been less focused on XBox sales but rather selling subscription services via game-pass. The X-Box brand as a whole has kinda moved past consoles and is somewhat shifting to PC given that XBox exclusives end up on the Microsoft store the same day under the XBox name. They're not going full 3rd party but consoles aren't the main priority of XBox. It'll still have a niche as a cheaper alternative to Playstation.

Never thought that’d happen tbh

 

[TheMightyP]

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If I had a nickel for every time prolific pocket monster hater Snakefighter64 wrangled the thread into discussing Pokemon today, I’d have two nickels.

Which isn’t a lot-you know the rest

It's funny because both discussions have been for lore related arguments and the games straight up explain it.

Like... just play the games.

 

[PF9]

Halo's TV adaptation is pretty good. New season starts Thursday.

 

[Noipoi]

It's funny because both discussions have been for lore related arguments and the games straight up explain it.

Like... just play the games.

But she won’t.

And we’ll have this same convo again next week.

Because none of us go outside

 

[TheMightyP]

It's kinda ironic how Ryan Gosling got nominated for more awards for Barbie than Margot Robbie.

 

[NintenRob]

What was the forum like back in your day?

Much like it is today honestly, busier because there was a Smash game to talk about I guess?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Pi

 

[Wario Bros.]

I got a hunch that our next wave of Smash spirits is this week.

 

[TheMightyP]

But she won’t.

She's a true Pokemon Fan

 

[Z25]

I would say "the announcement could be tomorrow", but then I realized 3 of the past February Directs were all announced Tuesday, streamed Wednesday.

So uh...next week it is!

It’s possible but would definitely be surprising. Makes more sense for next week given everything we’ve heard, plus Super Bowl ads will be gone and they can take over the marketing online a bit.

 

[Noipoi]

She's a true Pokemon Fan

Nah man, we play the games. We buy every single one even when we swear we’re boycotting the next one.

We just hate them

 

[CannonStreak]

Anyone want some Scarlet and Violet?

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[Wario Bros.]

Anyone want some Scarlet and Violet?

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I got a hunch that our next wave of Smash spirits is this week.

Called it!

 

[Shroob]

I got a hunch that our next wave of Smash spirits is this week.

Anyone want some Scarlet and Violet?

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Ironic.

 

[Noipoi]

Anyone want some Scarlet and Violet?

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Por fin los Pokémon españoles están en Smash.

Esto me agrada jajaja

 

[Wario Bros.]

Now the big question: What are they going to wrap it all up with?

 

[Shroob]

Now the big question: What are they going to wrap it all up with?

Mario Wonder still doesn't have any Spirits, right?

 

[Wario Bros.]

Mario Wonder still doesn't have any Spirits, right?

Correct, so maybe.

 

[Shroob]

This is the second to last wave

And then Smash Ultimate will be done

For real this time

We promise

We swear

 

[StormC]

It's kinda ironic how Ryan Gosling got nominated for more awards for Barbie than Margot Robbie.

I think he was the one thing everyone can agree on was 100% perfect in that movie

 

[Noipoi]

This is the second to last wave

And then Smash Ultimate will be done

For real this time

We promise

We swear

It will be.

Because the new game is coming out

 

[Shroob]

So that'll be what, 10pm on Thursday for PST?


I'm guessing the final wave will be the 2nd to last week of Feb then.

 

[cashregister9]

Now the big question: What are they going to wrap it all up with?

I thought I knew after the last 2 events but they have been all over the map that they could end it with anything at this point

I want to still say another variety event with things like Engage, Wonder and Kirby.

 

[Noipoi]

And now, because I'm bored, here's my predictions for the S/V spirits.

Spoiler: Sprigatito, Fuecoco, & Quaxly

. Ivysaur is tiny and wields Lips' Stick.
. K Rool is tiny, in his red alt, and has eaten super-spicy curry.
. Falco is tiny, in his light blue alt, and likes to taunt.

Spoiler: Koraidon & Miraidon

. Two Ridleys, one in his red alt and one in the purple Meta Ridley alt.
. The opponents grow powerful upon eating.
. The only food that spawns is the sandwich.

Spoiler: Ogerpon & Terapagos

. Young Link wields the Ore Club. Damage to Smash attacks is increased.
. Bowser is in his blue alt, the Super Star power-up will randomly activate.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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Spin offs can be canon

I'm not saying it's not cannon. I'm just saying the world building being done by the developers at... persues knowledge Dena Co. LTD isn't necessarily reflective of what Game Freak wants to do when it tells it's stories. And if we have to wait for a spinoff to have the story be clarified/told straight... then I think that's at least a criticism of how the mainline games and their developers handle story and world building.

Technically, it all is alternate timelines. Like the remakes, 3rd versions, and reimagining's all take place in separate, but very similar timelines, and that's been the case for a while. The modern games played up to it, which gave reasonings as to why the remake and 3rd version games are different than the mainline dual versions. And really, the best, and really only, way to put it is that they're all just alternate timelines/dimensions, they just fleshed it out starting with Gen 7. When it comes to referencing back, they tend to use the 3rd versions as the definitive one.

Like some examples on this:

Emerald is the game that SuMo used when bringing back Anabel. Since Emerald never got a remake, the Battle Frontier wasn't a thing, and thus Anabel was missing, they had to give an explanation on how she came back, especially since it follows ORAS's timeline.

Platinum is the game Legends used when it came to being a prequel. All the Sinnoh backstory correlates to Platinum exclusive story.

But like... why though? Is it that hard to have the versions be different from each other but still be set in the same universe and be cannon to one another? Like maybe a little but I don't think so. Especially since it feels like these things are not happening on accident by way of laziness but are rather a purposeful decision to do the stories this way. Like... they don't have to do it this way, they just want to. And I kind of wish they didn't want to because I feel it would be way more satisfying to follow a series if everything connected up and built together. ESPECIALLY since they don't do third "definitive" versions anymore so we can't just ignore the paired releases and only follow the story of those because they don't exist anymore.

It doesn't have to be this way. Nothing about Pokemon has to be the way that it is. They've chosen to make it this way and I think they've been bad decision makers.

Side-note, does your username have anything to do with the Nickelodeon show "The Mighty B!"?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

both better than Futaba

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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If I had a nickel for every time prolific pocket monster hater Snakefighter64 wrangled the thread into discussing Pokemon today, I’d have two nickels.

Which isn’t a lot-you know the rest

I don’t hate Pokemon! … as a concept… like I like the monsters (most of them) and I like the idea of collecting a team of friends and battling enemies together as we go on an anime friendship journey. It’s just the games haven’t been… great lately and my opinions on why are different than the usual reasons other people have which I could repeat in a sarcastic and mocking way but I’m not going to.

Anyone want some Scarlet and Violet?

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Damn it. I missed the last spirit event because of effective dysfunction! I hope they get added to the general pool eventually and they don’t forget because the game is so far past prime.

 

[Noipoi]

Damn it. I missed the last spirit event because of effective dysfunction!

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[SneakyLink]

Started playing a Sonic game on my Xbox.

How many loading screens are there because after a gorgeous cutscene there were a ton... before getting to Level 1.

And even in Level 1 there was one mid level.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Sonic Fans Are Stoked To Probably Watch A Child Die In The New Movie

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 casting has long-time fans anticipating a pivotal scene from the games

kotaku.com

Right...Implying they'll even show it on-screen. For all we know it'll be from Shadow seeing it but not being shown.

 

[Shroob]

Side-note, does your username have anything to do with the Nickelodeon show "The Mighty B!"?

You've never seen him mention it before? lol

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Oh thats mentions of Anita Max Wins shlong on my twitter timeline

Yeah thats enough twitter today

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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Dang it it’s executive dysfunction. I always get the first word of the condition wrong. And it’s a real thing people with ADHD go through. Makes it so that we have a hard time getting ourselves to do things, even things we actually want to do.

You've never seen him mention it before? lol

I haven’t no. At least I don’t think.

 

[TheMightyP]

But like... why though? Is it that hard to have the versions be different from each other but still be set in the same universe and be cannon to one another? Like maybe a little but I don't think so. Especially since it feels like these things are not happening on accident by way of laziness but are rather a purposeful decision to do the stories this way. Like... they don't have to do it this way, they just want to. And I kind of wish they didn't want to because I feel it would be way more satisfying to follow a series if everything connected up and built together. ESPECIALLY since they don't do third "definitive" versions anymore so we can't just ignore the paired releases and only follow the story of those because they don't exist anymore.

It doesn't have to be this way. Nothing about Pokemon has to be the way that it is. They've chosen to make it this way and I think they've been bad decision makers.

Because the story and world differences are more than enough to make the versions be their own seperate canons. I'm not a fan of the dual versions but they have to give people incentive to pick a version, which means unique characters, story elements and world building. Which means they can't coincide with one another. The 3rd version was a means of bringing both elements together, but they haven't done a 3rd version since Platinum because turns out 3rd versions are scams and a half and they also don't sell as well.

Side-note, does your username have anything to do with the Nickelodeon show "The Mighty B!"?

Yes

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Because the story and world differences are more than enough to make the versions be their own seperate canons. I'm not a fan of the dual versions but they have to give people incentive to pick a version, which means unique characters, story elements and world building. Which means they can't coincide with one another. The 3rd version was a means of bringing both elements together, but they haven't done a 3rd version since Platinum because turns out 3rd versions are scams and a half and they also don't sell as well.



Yes

They’re not a scam if you skipped the first version and waited to buy the re-release. But I guess not enough people were doing that.

 

[Noipoi]

They’re not a scam if you skipped the first version and waited to buy the re-release. But I guess not enough people were doing that.

The amount of people who do that are most likely in the minority though. Most people buy one of the initial versions when they first come out and are content with that, seeing the third version as just the same game.

Which they pretty much are

 

[Alphine Agnitio]

Late night Splatoon pratice go hard tbh

 

[SnakeFighter64]

The amount of people who do that are most likely in the minority though. Most people buy one of the initial versions when they first come out and are content with that, seeing the third version as just the same game.

Which they pretty much are

Exactly. It’s the same game with everything from the initial two release included and no version exclusive content because it’s the only version of itself. I’d happily wait till the third version came and only play that and skip this whole “two versions, two stories, two timelines, two overworld, trading bs”.

 

[TheMightyP]

They’re not a scam if you skipped the first version and waited to buy the re-release. But I guess not enough people were doing that.

Imagine buying a hyped up, well functioning game only for it to be obsolete the next year because they're rereleasing the same game except this one has the missing lore and Pokemon that should have been in the version you just bought. And also they dropped support for the og version, if you want the mythicals you have to buy the 3rd version or suck it. Congrats on supporting us and being an early adopter,

Oh also, if you want all that then it's a full price upgrade for the game you just bought.

If that doesn't sound like you got scammed, then man do I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Schnee117]

Third versions were the Pokemon equivalent to fighting games (esp Street Fighter 4) selling their patches through new full price releases.

Speaking of fighting games:

Let's go Justin

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Imagine buying a hyped up, well functioning game only for it to be obsolete the next year because they're rereleasing the same game except this one has the missing lore and Pokemon that should have been in the version you just bought. And also they dropped support for the og version, if you want the mythicals you have to buy the 3rd version or suck it. Congrats on supporting us and being an early adopter,

Oh also, if you want all that then it's a full price upgrade for the game you just bought.

If that doesn't sound like you got scammed, then man do I have a bridge to sell you.

You got scammed. But I knew they were gonna do this ahead of time so I didn’t waste my time or money with the first version.

Honestly they should stop with the dual releases in the first place and just make the “definitive edition” to start out with. But they’re never gonna do that so I’d rather have it than not have it. But I currently don’t have it cause it’s not profitable enough. So… thanks for that I guess.

Side note, you’ed think there’re be a fangame or rom hack creating a “Pokémon Gray” experience but I can’t find any. Lame. You’ed think the fans would have come through.