Social THE Social Thread 2.0

[Michael the Spikester]

Here's an info dump regarding the 11 years of the MCU.

Spoiler

The Incredible Hulk was Marvel Studios' safe bet, while Iron Man was the risky side project.

Robert Downey Jr. met with Marvel Entertainment about playing Doctor Doom in 2005's Fantastic Four.

The original Iron Man script was terrible. The Mandarin was the villain and his plan was to dig a tunnel under Stark Industries to steal Stark's inventions. The story only came together when Jon Favreau decided to make Obadiah Stane the villain and give him his own suit.

There is a deleted scene revealing Stark Industries built Doctor Octopus' arms from Spider-Man 2 and an alternative post-credits scene where Nick Fury directly references "radioactive spider bites" and "assorted genetic mutations" as other **** SHIELD is dealing with.

The Iron Man post-credits scene was supposed to be just a fun nod to the comics. They only started seriously considering doing an Avengers movie after Iron Man was a box office hit.

Ike Perlmutter originally didn't want to pay the royalties to feature Black Sabbath's "Iron Man" in the movie.

Earlier drafts of The Avengers were very Iron Man-centric per the demands of the Marvel Creative Committee and even featured Zeke Stane as a supporting villain alongside Loki.

Scarlett Johansson nearly dropped out of The Avengers due to salary disputes, so Joss Whedon wrote a couple of drafts replacing Black Widow for The Wasp, and he wanted Zooey Deschanel for the role. When Johansson ultimately signed on, the Wasp was cut to focus on the preexisting characters.

Iron Man 3 was rewritten so many times that they only managed to figure out the third act because RDJ had to take a six weeks leave after an on-set injury.

Loki originally had a really small role in Thor: The Dark World and would have died for real, but the character became so popular after The Avengers that they did reshoots to give him more scenes and change his fate.

The original plan was to introduce Gamora, Drax and Rocket & Groot in three Marvel One-Shots ahead of Guardians of the Galaxy, followed by a fourth one-shot about young Peter Quill ending with him being abducted by the Ravagers.

The Marvel Creative Committee was against Star-Lord's Awesome Mixtape, but Kevin Feige and James Gunn managed to convince them to keep it.

There were persistent rumors that Marvel would adapt "Planet Hulk" during production of Avengers: Age of Ultron, so Feige changed the original ending where Hulk's Quinjet flies into orbit and disappears in space to it disappearing over the ocean to avoid giving fans false hopes. They wound up adapting "Planet Hulk" into Thor: Ragnarok anyway.

Captain Marvel was originally going to be introduced as a member of the New Avengers at the end of Age of Ultron to set up her spinoff solo film.

Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lily and Michael Douglas nearly quit Ant-Man after Edgar Wright's departure.

Captain America: Civil War led to a real life civil war between Feige and the Marvel Creative Committee that led to the Disney CEO Alan Horn disband the committee in 2017 and giving Feige full control of Marvel Studios.

The breaking point was that the committee was against the fight between Captain America and Iron Man in the end. Instead, they wanted Cap, Stark and Bucky to team up against Zemo and the brainwashed HYDRA supersoldiers. Feige, the Russos and writers Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely all argued in favor of the Cap/Stark fight, and the Russos were ready to quit if they were forced to do the committee's version.

The committee was also against Giant-Man, so an alternative airport battle was drafted where Scarlet Witch blows up an underground pipeline as Team Cap's big diversion.

The committee was also against Ego turning out to be evil in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 claiming audiences would complain if Kurt Russell and Chris Pratt were advertised as a father-son duo only for Russell to turn out to be evil.

After The Amazing Spider-Man 2 underperformed, Feige approached Amy Pascal to let Marvel Studios take over and reboot Spider-Man instead of moving forward with The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Pascal was so angry at first she threw a sandwich at Feige and kicked him out of her office.

Tom Holland sent several videos of himself doing acrobatics and stunts in his backyard as part of his audition process for Spider-Man. Jon Watts and the previz department used the video as the basis to choreograph Spider-Man's fight scenes in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Taika Waititi almost didn't land the Ragnarok gig. He was in Hawaii and had to meet Feige in Los Angeles to talk about the movie, but his passport was held in New Zealand. He only managed to make it because he had written the first draft of Moana and still had his Disney visa letter.

Anthony Hopkins was the one who pushed for Odin to die as a delusional vagrant in the streets of New York in Ragnarok, since he hated cheesy family reunion scenes. Waititi agreed at first, but after the scene tested poorly, he conceded that Thor and Loki needed a genuine final moment with their father and convinced Hopkins to reshoot the scene.

Paul Rudd was busy filming Avengers: Endgame for long stretches of the Ant-Man and the Wasp production, so they basically filmed everybody else's scenes first while waiting for Rudd to come back.

The idea for the all-female scene in Endgame came from pic related that the actresses took during a filming break. They were afraid it could come across as pandering, so they did reshoots to include more scenes of the characters fighting together beforehand so the big team-up felt more organic (it didn't).

Feige wanted to use Daredevil, Punisher and Ghost Rider in the MCU, but Perlmutter embargoed them he could build a "Marvel television empire" on Netflix.

Chris Evans was reluctant to audition for Captain America after having already done the Fantastic Four movie and it was RDJ who persuaded him.

Chris Hemsworth thought he was going to be phased out of the MCU when he found out he wasn't going to be in Civil War.

Mark Ruffalo was the one who came up with the dynamic between Hulk and Banner from Ragnarok and on, where Banner is afraid of becoming Banner and resentful of being seen as a monster and used as a weapon.

Paul Bettany had been told by his agent that he would probably never land a big role again moments before getting a call about playing Vision in Age of Ultron.

Stark originally said nothing when he snapped Thanos away in Endgame. After test-screenings the Russos felt he needed to have one final line and considered many options before the editor suggested "and I am Iron Man" as a callback to the first movie. Filming Stark's death was difficult for RDJ so he was reluctant to go back to reshoot it at first.

 

[osby]

I only ever played DMC4 and finished the whole thing in easy mode. I have no shame.

I tried the hardest difficulty as an NG+ challenge for myself but bosses feel way too hard and it's not really a game where you can play all missions over and over again. I always have to resort to auto-combo and that kinda takes away from the fun.

Also Nero > Dante fite me

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Is there a better entry point to the series?

I've finished both it and DMC1 and the latter felt like Castlevania 1 but in 3D and with a sword

DMC4 or DMC5.

 

[Jondolio]

Which version are you playing btw?

I own both the HD trilogy on PC and the special edition on Switch because I couldn't get the former running, but I've since upgraded it and I'm pretty sure it can run it now

 

[Metal Shop X]

I only ever played DMC4 and finished the whole thing in easy mode. I have no shame.

I tried the hardest difficulty as an NG+ challenge for myself but bosses feel way too hard and it's not really a game where you can play all missions over and over again. I always have to resort to auto-combo and that kinda takes away from the fun.

Also Nero > Dante fite me

tbh DMC4 isn't a very good game to start the series with.

The difficulty is all over the place once you reach Dante, whose later half was cleary rush & he isn't really designed with the enemies/bosses Nero face.

DMC3 & 5 are much better starting point. (I like to say 1 too, but I know it can be a bit too archaic for some, which is a shame since it's really simple to play once you get past the janky camera & other early weird installement feature)

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Won't lie I think Chris Pratt would do a very good voice for Dante.

If it were him casted which isn't happening.

 

[Momotsuki]

Just dropping in to share a non-sequitur... The Lullaby mod for the funny beep boop game is probably my new favorite. Love the gimmicks, even speaking as somebody that plays actual rhythm games. Fun is fun. Go play it.
Left Unchecked is an instant fave.

 

[Schnee117]

DMC3's issue is it's pretty hard and the whole "Easy mode is now selectable" can be a kick in the ****, but there's no shame in going for the easier option. It's also dated but the PC version has a mod that modernises it with style switching and having access to every weapon and the Switch port more or less adds those features

DMC4 has a poor back half and Dante's other weapons are really unique and awkward, but Nero's a great character and the SE adds Lady, Trish and Vergil who are all really damn good, esp Vergil.

DMCV is the latest in terms of story, but it has a basic story recap to fill you in on the key details and V might feel awkward and out of place to use whilst Trish and Lady are done super dirty. Dante and Nero are at their best here and so is Vergil who's DLC on PC, PS4 and Xbox One.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Reminder y'all that Sonic the Hedgehog was a rip-off of Howard the Duck in plot!

Coincidence? Heavily doubt it.

That's right. Let the tears commence.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Just dropping in to share a non-sequitur... The Lullaby mod for the funny beep boop game is probably my new favorite. Love the gimmicks, even speaking as somebody that plays actual rhythm games. Fun is fun. Go play it.
Left Unchecked is an instant fave.

Funny you say that, because i'm just listenin' to the soundtrack of the mod as i'm writting this atm.

 

[Lamperouge]

Reminder y'all that Sonic the Hedgehog was a rip-off of Howard the Duck in plot!

Coincidence? Heavily doubt it.

That's right. Let the tears commence.

I don't think anyone here cares that much.

At least Sonic was fun.

 

[TheMightyP]

Won't lie I think Chris Pratt would do a very good voice for Dante.

If it were him casted which isn't happening.

I should've been the one to fill your dark soul with LIiIiGHT

 

[Momotsuki]

Funny you say that, because i'm just listenin' to the soundtrack of the mod as i'm writting this atm.

Bops cover-to-cover. Mentioned my favorite but they're all amazing. Ban did really good with the vocals for Safety Lullaby.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I don't think anyone here cares that much.

At least Sonic was fun.

But still a rip-off never the less.

 

[TheMightyP]

Are we really doing this again?

 

[Metal Shop X]

Bops cover-to-cover. Mentioned my favorite but they're all amazing. Ban did really good with the vocals for Safety Lullaby.

On top of that, Monke Girlfriend is best GF.

 

[osby]

Reminder y'all that Sonic the Hedgehog was a rip-off of Howard the Duck in plot!

Coincidence? Heavily doubt it.

That's right. Let the tears commence.

Time is a flat circle.

 

[Lamperouge]

Are we really doing this again?

Michael's out for those salty tears.

Too bad he's looking in the wrong place.

 

[Schnee117]

The DMC anime should have a Gura cameo

 

[Noipoi]

Tropes are not the same as rip offs.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Tropes are not the same as rip offs.

Animal characters brought to earth seeks help from human character who goes on a road trip with mad scientists on said titular protagonists trail.

Also happens to shed whenever stressed (For Howard his feathers, Sonic his quills).

 

[Metal Shop X]

Beside, Sonic isn't a duck.

He is a hedgedog.

 

[TheMightyP]

Howard the Duck had Duck ***** Nipples so Sonic is hands down the better movie.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Howard the Duck had Duck ***** Nipples so Sonic is hands down the better movie.

But once again never the less ripped off a previous movie.

 

[osby]

Tropes are not the same as rip offs.

Lion King and Black Panther are Hamlet rip-offs.

Now start shedding salty tears.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Anyway, I should really play OFF - The "Funny" RPG Game- one day.

 

[Noipoi]

Nah **** this convo

Uhhhh

Pick your favorite Pokémon, Digimon, Yokai, and SMT demon. Now put em in a fight.


Who wins?

 

[TheMightyP]

Howard the Duck is actually a Rip-Off of the Bible. Think about it:

• Guy out of this world comes down and visits a down on his luck dude
• They quickly become best friends and hijinks happen with a group that wants to capture said out of this world being
• They have a falling out midway
• Alien being gets captured, all hope is seemingly lost
• But the tides turn, the dude and alien being make up. Things looks up
• Alien being leaves, down on his luck guy is no longer down on his luck and has a new outlook in life

It's word for word Jesus and Peter

 

[Noipoi]

Howard the Duck is actually a Rip-Off of the Bible. Think about it:

• Guy out of this world comes down and visits a down on his luck dude
• They quickly become best friends and hijinks happen with a group that wants to capture said out of this world being
• They have a falling out midway
• Alien being gets captured, alp hope is seemingly lost
• But the tides turn, the dude and alien being make up things looks up
• Alien being leaves, down on his luck guy is no longer down on his luck and has a new outlook in life

It's word for word Jesus and Peter

I knew Howard the Duck was the son of God.

 

[Schnee117]

Looney Tunes Back in Action is a Howard the Duck ripoff

See, they even used a Duck, where's the creativity Hollywood smh

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Dante also rips off Inuyasha.

Half-demons with silver hair and wears red.
Both have a sibling whom they despise and have a rivalry with (Sesshomaru for Inuyasha, Vergil for Dante).
Sons of powerful demon lords.
A romantic relationship with a female character with ties to someone important in their past life basically reincarnations (Trish, a clone of Dante's mother Eva, Kikyo, Kagome's reincarnation).

 

[TheMightyP]

Dante also rips off Inuyasha.

Half-demons with silver hair and wears red.
Both have a sibling whom they despise and have a rivalry with.
Sons of powerful demon lords.
A romantic relationship with a female character with ties to someone important in their past life basically reincarnations (Trish, a clone of Dante's mother Eva, Kikyo, Kagome's reincarnation).

If you think that's bad, wait until you read Dante's Inferno.

 

[Speed Weed]

Reminder y'all that Sonic the Hedgehog was a rip-off of Howard the Duck in plot!

Coincidence? Heavily doubt it.

That's right. Let the tears commence.

It ain't about who did it first

It's about who did it best

 

[osby]

Anyway, I should really play OFF - The "Funny" RPG Game- one day.

I love that game but just a heads up: It's one of those RPGs people like for the story, not necessarily for the gameplay.

Nah **** this convo

Uhhhh

Pick your favorite Pokémon, Digimon, Yokai, and SMT demon. Now put em in a fight.


Who wins?

My favorite demon because she's a mom and would just tell everyone to stop fighting and behave:

If we're talking about strict power levels, is peerless.

 

[Schnee117]

Aliens is a Vietnam War rip-off

 

[ZephyrZ]

Thor is such a shameless rip off of Norse mythology that they don't even change the names of the characters.

Get original content, Hollywood.

 

[TheMightyP]

Aliens is a Vietnam War rip-off

The Americans win at the end of Aliens, so bull**** on that.

 

[osby]

Dante also rips off Inuyasha.

Half-demons with silver hair and wears red.
Both have a sibling whom they despise and have a rivalry with (Sesshomaru for Inuyasha, Vergil for Dante).
Sons of powerful demon lords.
A romantic relationship with a female character with ties to someone important in their past life basically reincarnations (Trish, a clone of Dante's mother Eva, Kikyo, Kagome's reincarnation).

Devil May Cry is a Brokeback Mountain rip-off because they are both
-Famous for gay cowboys
-Said gay cowboys aren't actually cowboys, just gay

Check mate.

 

[Metal Shop X]

I love that game but just a heads up: It's one of those RPGs people like for the story, not necessarily for the gameplay.

I'm aware that the gameplay isn't very fun.


Though honestly, as someone who played Hylics 1 & Yume Nikki (which are both good games but the gameplay isn't what I say make them special), I can overlook the actual "game" part being meh if enough good is done in other area to compensate. Such as story, music, art style, etc...

I'm very open to different experience you could say.

 

[Noipoi]

I can’t believe Titanic ripped off the Titanic.