The Snorlax Room

[Wave⁂]

All these numbers, what the **** is going on

 

[The Real Gamer]

Unless your check can deal with taking repeated EQs / Rock Slides from a Excadrill who switches out when you try to hit him, you can't only use checks.

But most people focused on saving Excadrill for an end game sweep by getting rid of the opponent's checks/counters though, so it's not like it was constantly wearing down said checks often.

 

[Circa]

Unless your check can deal with taking repeated EQs / Rock Slides from a Excadrill who switches out when you try to hit him, you can't only use checks.

When I saw Excadrill I'd just hit it with stuff.

Seemed to work for me.

 

[choknater]

skarm is supposed to whirlwind excadrill

 

[Kofu]

Which is just saving it for later.
And Weezing has 334 Max HP man you guys are lame you can't even calculate stats when I was your age we never used percentages we just used the raw numbers and they seemed to work for just I tell you kids these days

 

[UltiMario]

Kofu you are an 09er

YOU ARE THE KIDS THESE DAYS

 

[choknater]

assuming the player is using skarm, there are probably spikes

and whirlwinding exca is still good, bc he requires swords dance to get off

 

[Terywj [태리]]

assuming the player is using skarm, there are probably spikes

and whirlwinding exca is still good, bc he requires swords dance to get off

And then later your Skarmory dies and Excadrill switches back in and takes the Spikes damage and sweeps your team.

 

[Wave⁂]

Excadrill on a Balloon takes no Spikes damage.

 

[UltiMario]

Gliscor can take LO Adamant Returns with relative ease and just EQ Drill to death.

Balloon Drill can't do enough damage to Gliscor to actually beat it.

 

[choknater]

dose situations

tery the point of whirlwinding is so that you can at least get him in on a better situation. like snapbacks in marvel

wave's situation is more likely

 

[Wave⁂]

Gliscor with Protect deals with pretty much all Excadrill without any trouble. Pretty sure even HP Ice without significant SpAtk investment can't take down Gliscor.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Hidden Power Ice will just miss anyway.

 

[UltiMario]

HP Ice can't even 2HKO Standard Gliscor because of Poison Heal lol. +2 Return actually does more damage than uninvested HP Ice.

 

[Enzo]

Brave bird actually hits drill pretty hard, no gliscor can lose to drill. And bronzong...he can 2hko with eq and drill can only 3hkoafter like an SD?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

What are you using, Swords Dance Life Orb Skarmory? LOL

 

[Wave⁂]

0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs 4 HP/0 Def Excadrill: 22.38% - 26.52%
Recoil damage doesn't exactly help your chances of winning, either.

X-Scissor is a 3HKO, and Bronzong 2HKOs with EQ, yes. However, against Balloon Excadrill, you lose, unless Gyro Ball does 40% or so, not sure.

 

[Enzo]

I probably should have said that it dents excadrill, it also helps by breaking their balloon if they have one which opens them up to spikes damage, the extra recoil from a brave bird doesnt really hurt skarmory much when its doing 23%ish.

Life orb excadrill has an even harder time because the recoil from spikes and life orb adds up, pretty fast; much faster than the user of that drill would want anyhow

 

[Terywj [태리]]

+2 Life Orb Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 232 Def. Skarmory - 41.3% - 48.5%

So the accuracy is always a problem, but that's nearly a 2HKO on a clean Skarmory. No Stealth Rocks, previous hits, or Brave Bird recoil.

 

[Wave⁂]

Exacdrill can guarantee a 2HKO by using another Swords Dance for +4, saving Life Orb recoil and reducing the chance of a miss. Of course, that is completely shut down by Whirlwind.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Excadrill is torn a new one by Scarfed Accelgor.

/discussion

 

[choknater]

it's beaten by scarfed groudon as well

 

[Exceladon City]

ITT: Excadrill y?

The only thing I have scarfed is my Hydreigon. Which I use to blow up Ferrothorns that aren't backed by Heatrans. (Read: Flamethrower)

So bringing it out on an Excadrill isn't gonna do me good if survives a Focus Blast and just presses the X-Scissor button.

 

[Kofu]

Excadrill is torn a new one by Scarfed Accelgor.

/discussion

I was curious if anyone would bring this up. Too bad Focus Blast isn't a guaranteed OHKO.

it's beaten by scarfed groudon as well

Groudon doesn't need Scarf, just max Speed.

ITT: Excadrill y?

The only thing I have scarfed is my Hydreigon. Which I use to blow up Ferrothorns that aren't backed by Heatrans. (Read: Flamethrower)

So bringing it out on an Excadrill isn't gonna do me good if survives a Focus Blast and just presses the X-Scissor button.

Scarf Hydreigon isn't outspeed Excadrill in Sand any time soon.

 

[Nike.]

Hey guys, I have a question about the nuzlocke challenge.
I know that catching the first pkmn you see in the area is the general rule.
Does this same rule apply to event or gift pokemon?
EX: Could I get eevee, abra (gamecorner), and dratini (gamecorner) if I wanted to in celadon, or just one?

I ask because I saw this and flipped: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX4gOWdre2o&feature=channel_video_title

 

[Kofu]

I'd say just one, but that depends on your own rules.

 

[Wave⁂]

I'm sure you already know the two rules of Nuzlocke. There's no "official" Nuzlocke rules, that's all there is.

 

[choknater]

is pay day the best move in nuzlocke or is even that not good enough????

 

[Circa]

I'm fairly certain Pay Day is rather unnecessary, especially when you're not ever wasting your money on Pokeballs or Revives. You usually get a solid cash flow throughout the game elsewhere.

The ability Pickup, however, is incredible.

 

[choknater]

wow. pickup does sound great.

haha man. have people beaten the game with nuzlocke? like, BW?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

wow. pickup does sound great.

haha man. have people beaten the game with nuzlocke? like, BW?

I recorded an entire Nuzlocke of Pokemon Emerald for my Youtube.

Liek ah baws.

 

[Circa]

I might do a Black nuzlocke soon. I just found my DS charger a few days ago after like three months, so idk.

My Galvantula though.

 

[Exceladon City]

I was curious if anyone would bring this up. Too bad Focus Blast isn't a guaranteed OHKO.

Groudon doesn't need Scarf, just max Speed.

Scarf Hydreigon isn't outspeed Excadrill in Sand any time soon.

I didn't say that it would.

 

[Wave⁂]

I didn't say that it would.

He didn't say that you say it would. Why are you talking about this?

 

[Kofu]

His comment seemed to imply that Hydreigon would get off a Focus Blast BEFORE taking an attack from Excadrill, which (in my mind) meant that he was say that Scarf Hydreigon would outspeed Excadrill.

My bad.

 

[Gamegenie222]

So does anyone have any non-weather pokes that helps against weather teams in OU?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Ferrothorn gastrodon dragonite and rotom w are all notorious for doing very well against rain teams.

Rotom w gliscor and skarmory all perform great against sand teams.

Dnite heatran latios and terrakion (when used correctly) can all give sun teams hell.

Those are just a few examples. Making a full non weather team that can handle all types of weather effectively can be a bit tricky.

 

[Wave⁂]

Ferrothorn gastrodon dragonite and rotom w are all notorious for doing very well against rain teams.

At first, I thought you were listing Pokemon commonly used on rain teams.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Huh... All 4 of them really do benefit from the rain, but at the same time they do a good job against rain as well.

weird

 

[Circa]

It sounds like you guys are on to something.

Those four + Politoed + whatever fits the gap best. Run itttt.