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[#HBC | Mac]

everyone who thinks I might be an SK is foolish. I prevent the WIFOMy yet still decent argument that if I was SK, I wouldn't go out of my way to keep the badwolf lynch from occurring.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Macman isn't an SK pick. Vinyl. is. Are you referring to me and Summoner as SK picks or as scum dependent on Ori's flip? Clarify on that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru why are you voting Ori if you still have me and DH as your scum-picks, unless you're somehow including Ori in this

Nevermind I read, you think he's plausibly SK? What if he's just scum? Where do your reads change dependent on Ori's flip

These two right here ran

 

[ranmaru]

Yes, I think Ori is plausible SK, and if he's just scum, then one of you/Summoner would be SK in my pov, because I think DH is a definite scum. That's about it.

 

[ranmaru]

Why is vinyl SK to you?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

So:

If Ori is scum - Me or Summoner is SK
If Ori is SK - DH is still scum
If Ori is Town - ?????

Fill those in a bit better, you're being a tad confusing.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why is vinyl SK to you?

Because I could care less for his play and him coming in like that with a bunch of useless questions and no means to them was pretty bad also

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Vinyl what are your thoughts on Ori?

 

[ranmaru]

If Ori flipped town then:

Soup + DH scum
Summoner possible SK (this is due to POE in all cases)

Because I could care less for his play and him coming in like that with a bunch of useless questions and no means to them was pretty bad also

Yeah that's not convincing at all. I read him as solid town and I see him trying to do things in his own way that you call 'useless questions' so I don't really see it as a SK tell. Ori laying low was more of an SK tell to me, than that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup + DH scum

Why do you have such a boner for us two? What is so damn telling that hasn't already been refuted? You're clinging onto this in every post you make.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's SK telling because he's been lurking and hasn't said anything relevant but trying to pretend to force content, think outside the box Ranmaru.

 

[Vinylic.]

@Vinyl: Yeah, I suspected him and even his RVS actions. What's the problem there?

An RVS stage gives the probability of random voting, also, not being that serious in those votes and further more. Like buddying, joining in and whatnot.

Also, you forgot to answer this.

I don't think I've encountered a case like this before, so why are you probable that soup's looking fishy in those posts?

Also, after he ignored it I left it alone to see what he would do and just note it for later. It wasn't a concern to me because I wasn't focusing on him at the time.

Okay.

So you note it for later when you weren't focusing on him that much. What were you focusing to then?

Also, what do you think of Soup's reads?

I haven't read them yet.

And why did you vote Soup?

Read this post I quoted.

Doing random RVS vote as putting down my vote.

Vote: Soup

No reason why I voted.

Oh and yeah, what do you think about Oreo Bro?

His inactivity is bad and his playstyle seems off. Re-reading to confirm that.

 

[ranmaru]

I have explained it already. Your reads on Badwolf and Vinyl keep your options open, I don't like that because I don't think you are reading them as you would as town. Your opinion on DH was weak yet you don't really feel the push on him, that's why I'm feeling you and DH. I also didn't like that you had some null-town reaction from Badwolf yet you get right back on him later on, like you had to because you had no other options (read: as scum). That's how I see it. Especially since that early badwolf vote didn't seem convincing to me at all. If you are town I don't think you are trying hard enough in finding scum. Like you aren't really looking deeply into DH, you say his jump on Ori wasn't great yet you still think he is town? Seriously?

The early game stuff was vibes yet I still had to show why I didn't like it.

With Vinyl, he is easy to read for me. If he is scum he'll act obv scummy and I don't see that. Like he'd be a sponge as scum and to get anything (I mean SOMETHING) you have to poke him alot because he won't do ****, but as town if something pops out to him he'll pick it out asap. He has been doing things, and doing more than he ever has before which is pretty town telling to me. Sure he may be dumb town/ newb town but that's how I see it, I don't see any malicious actions and I see he is trying to question me for not asking a question again which is something no one has asked about which I find townie. Also keep in mind I have PoE here in effect as well. Mac Vynil Bady town, that leaves DH/Ori/You + Summoner.

Also, what is your opinion on Summoner?

 

[ranmaru]

@Vinyl: Rvs stage was only one of my concerns, scum still are present in the RVS stage so what they do there can be telling as well. The more you know. It's just things there are smaller but you haven't looked at all of the case of Soup if you know what I mean.

The RVS points were more of vibes, so if no one can see what I see then not much I can do about that. I explain his further game actions above though, check that out.

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I was focusing on Macman. Then I got a townread on Macman, and put down my other scumreads, Soup and DH. (I just got a scumread on DH when reading with Macman town read in mind)

 

[Vinylic.]

Because I could care less for his play and him coming in like that with a bunch of useless questions and no means to them was pretty bad also

What bunch of useless questions?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I have explained it already. Your reads on Badwolf and Vinyl keep your options open, I don't like that because I don't think you are reading them as you would as town. Your opinion on DH was weak yet you don't really feel the push on him, that's why I'm feeling you and DH. I also didn't like that you had some null-town reaction from Badwolf yet you get right back on him later on, like you had to because you had no other options (read: as scum). That's how I see it. Especially since that early badwolf vote didn't seem convincing to me at all. If you are town I don't think you are trying hard enough in finding scum. Like you aren't really looking deeply into DH, you say his jump on Ori wasn't great yet you still think he is town? Seriously?

This instinctively sounds like meta to me, and I don't even know how to respond to it. How I should be reading a player? I should be town-reading them? Keeping my options open? Regardless of alignment I keep my options open, I have reasoning behind my pushes and I have priority, I don't know why this is a sudden alarming thing for you or why you're bothered it. More or less i'm bothered by the fact that you are literally expecting me to read people a certain way, yet not even considering why I'm reading them that way. I don't understand why you're so bothering about this referring to DH, you're kind of reaching with this aspect and you've yet to explain specifically why me and DH make sense. You've hinted at it, stated your reasoning, but there's nothing solid. What do you think about the other side, DH? You've covered my aspect, but you've never pointed out where DH plays into this, you scum-read DH more and even made a whole case on him, but then you string me together with him just because how i'm reading him. This is the basis of your points, how i'm reading someone. Wrt Badwolf, you realize that I had one mere reaction that I liked that was cancelled out for the sake that Badwolf did something that was scummy, right? I pointed it out and i'm allowed to change my opinion as I see fit, I sitll honestly don't buy anything from that slot and am patiently awaiting to hear what he has to say. Ranmaru, why are you ignoring specifics? You claim to have me and DH as scum yet you're ignoring me when I ask why Ori factors into this, your reasoning is worse simply because you are putting aside what you said earlier in order to pursue something that is gaining interest, and that's something i reallly dislike from you. Not trying hard enough to find scum? I can't response to this simply because I don't need to appeal to your needs regarding this, your vague opinion on me not finding scum because of how I read DH is a load of crap and only mixes in the vibe i get from you lately.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Mac could tell me your present read on Ranmaru thanks

 

[Vinylic.]

@Vinyl: Rvs stage was only one of my concerns, scum still are present in the RVS stage so what they do there can be telling as well. The more you know. It's just things there are smaller but you haven't looked at all of the case of Soup if you know what I mean.

The RVS points were more of vibes, so if no one can see what I see then not much I can do about that. I explain his further game actions above though, check that out.

I read them, and it looks much better than the RVS stuff.
I agree that scum are present in RVS, but the scum vibes would feel less to no vibes from them. If you can tell off who is scum and make a scum lynch with those posts on RVS, I'd be impressed.

Right now, I don't have the time to see what's up at this hour, but I can really see that now when you say it. I'll be back whenever I'm done with gym stuff today.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru let's talk hypothetical

What happens when one of us flips town? Still partnered? Still scum?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Showering and getting ready to go out, will respond to everything later.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

To kill my curiosity, why this reaction?

Because he hasn't been active at all then he goes V/LA.

Dead enough?

OK, well I did a quick read through because I've had everything and its mother on my mind.

DH - scummy, possible SK, but I do agree with the Ori connection.
Ori - I don't like him, but I don't feel SK. I can see him being scum.
Soup - Null- town. He hasn't made any friends this game, me being one of the lesser liked. But I still feel as if he's hiding something. I'm going to look further into his posts.
Mac- I'm still really unsure about this slot. He acts really scummy then later says he saved me and I should basically stop playing. I'm going null-scum.
Ran - Towny.
Summoner - Null. I don't know how to read this slot. Anyone want to give me some metas of his?
Vinyl- Null, get in more. I believe in you.

If I forgot a player tell me.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

THlS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME?!?!

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Pretty much.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what scummy things have I done though? Didn't you say earlier that you only voted me to get me to care about the game/pressure?


sigh, why are you making me have to rethink this... I was so confident in dh/ori scum

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Because of your post about how I should just proxy my vote to your choosing. It sounds as if you want a sheep and I have no want of being one.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

can i go back to voting badwolf

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

can i go back to voting badwolf

ಠ_ಠ sure.
10idks

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

mac please help me out here

 

[#HBC | Mac]

hell yea i want a sheep. But it was a joke, I didn't expect you to actually do it

cmon bro, if you're thinking on such a superficial level than you'll never be able to catch scum.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

sooup, i'm still stickin to my initial thought about baddy just being bad

 

[#HBC | Mac]

also soup, if(when) ori flips mafia, DH is YOUR NEXT MAFIA LYNCH (unless you decide you want to target the SK, but whenever you decide you wanna lynch mafia, LYNCH DH)

if I die tonight, you gotta hold down the fort in pushing DH for me.

 

[vanderzant]

"We are insured, aren't we Mum?"
"Homer, tell your child what you bought when I sent you to town to get some insurance."
"Curse you magic beans!"
"Oh stop blaming the beans."

Deadline: 12.01am 30th August EST
With 8 Alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Vote Count
Ori_bro : Macman, Ranmaru, Dark Horse
Badwolf28738 : SummonerAU, Ori_bro

Not Voting (3)
Vinyl
Badwolf28738
Яagnarock

 

[Ori_bro]

Hey I'm going to be back tomorrow. Looks like a lot has happened

 

[SummonerAU]

no longer V/LA and I've dealt with my laptop ****. Time to get crackalackin

 

[SummonerAU]

Pages 6 and 7

I'm going to make a series of posts here to make it easier for me to process the sheer number of posts I missed. So, my posts will be using information from posts around here. If this is confusing, I understand, but I can't really read like 5 pages of 40ppp stuff without making notes on things and I may as well put it down in the thread anyway. I'll put the pages I'm looking at in the post title. I'll try my best to find a good balance between understanding the pages worth on context, but not giving outdated reactions to things that have already been gone over. I also just noticed I forgot completely about Vinyl being in this game in my #222 and Vinyl is so unmemorable for me he's in the same boat as Ori.

@Summoner:
Now then, I would like for you to look into Dark Horse, do you agree with my reasons on him, and on Soup as well?

Also, I want to know. How would you feel if we lynched Dark Horse over Badwolf today? Would you be ok with it?

wrt to ran's post on soup/dh, I really think you're attributing motivations to some of soup's actions that are stretching it. Soup's 'vote vinyl' thing was clearly a RVS post since literally nothing had happened in the game yet. Same with his early vote on Badwolf, it just seemed to me that he was being liberal with his vote and tryna get baddy to respond. He accepted me into the brocrew because we're ****in BROS. Lol but seriously, he's not saying he thinks I'm town, that was just early game banter. Kevin, Marshy, FF and I do this a lot in games.

so it's seems like you're stretching alot wrt to soup. you're attributing mal-intent to actions that don't really justify it

I quote Macman here because this is how I feel about your points on Soup in your post. The points you're using to say soup is scummy aren't at all how I read those posts and Macman covers how read then nicely. The "shaky read" post of Badwolf is not someone trying to be safe, I agree that his interpretation is definitely making it worst than the part actually is. DH's responses to your other points in his #275 are ok with me and I like his replies to why scum badwolf would possibly unvote macman.

 

[SummonerAU]

page 9 DH/Ori stuff

Bolded: It never went from shaky to scum, I was just putting a vote down. I don't see why I shouldn't have done that.

...did you even read the posts I quoted? I'm requoting them because this is important. I will bold the parts which completely contradict what you just said. (At least the picture you posted this time wasn't obnoxious.)

All badwolf quotes:

Ehhhhhhhh, I had a shaky read on him, based upon some odd behaviour. But for now sure. It's not like I'm using it elsewhere.

Because I have a scum read on you.....

(when asked why he unvoted)You actually started caring.

you CLEARLY go from shaky to scum here. What's up with that, huh?

Not down with any lynch other than Badwolf until he addresses this.

Because I'm taking 5 college level classes, getting up at 5:30, have insomnia most nights, and generally have a headache most of the time.

Don't join a mafia game then geez lol.

Macman's #313 is pretty amazing. It does indeed reek and Ori is pretty scummy right now and brings up exactly what I thought about Ori saying to look at DH tomorrow instead of Macman. I don't agree with macman's read of noobtown badwolf though.

Actually Macman's posts (#338) on Ori/DH scumteam make a lot of sense and I agree with the conclusion he's reached and I really like the line of questioning he had leading up to that post. I think that Ori/DH scumteam with Badwolf SK is very likely at this point and I think Macman has hardbodied some scummies here. I will re-inforce my previous Badwolf statement in that I think he is the way to go today since I now think he's the SK.

I wish the summonerAU kid (SK) posted more

You have no idea how badly I wanted SK this game. When I got my role pm I sent a pm back to van about how he sent me the wrong role PM lol

 

[SummonerAU]

nothing I think needs addressing that much pages 10 and 11. A lot of setup talk and stuff doesn't need me to go over and I'm a little worn out after reading and processing like 4 pages of interesting posts.

 

[SummonerAU]

Oh yeah, I'll be up late tonight so maybe I can actually take part in discussions in real time now. What a joy

 

[#HBC | Mac]

so baddy, ori and DH, are the three possible lynches for today..

maybe I have been giving baddy the benefit of the doubt... It's unlikely that's mafia (other than with me) because most people in the game have wanted him lynched. But he has been scummy so he could be a solid SK lynch choice.

But summonerAU kid could just be saying that to get us to mislynch so that he won't take the heat for another couple Days... but I have no reason to think that other then paranoia...

unvote for now, I need to think things through

 

[#HBC | Mac]

baddy hasn't tried to scumhunt at all. Except for that **** really weird read-list a couple posts into Day 1. He's hopped on and off my wagon for illogical reasons and doesn't really give solid answers to any questions asked him directly.

this is highly scummy/anti-town behavior.... sigh

see I have a tendency to think scum would never be that blatantly scummy which makes me want to think newbTown... but I can't just be giving ppl the benefit of the doubt like that. Almost ****ed me up with John2k4 in Disney Songs.

baddy, if we lynch you today, and you're town, and we go on to lose the game. It's all your fault and you should feel bad. Cuz I actually don't see any effort from you in trying to win this game.