The Simpsons Mafia || GAME OVER! Who lived hap-diddly-aply every after?

[#HBC | BadWolf]

baddy, you've played a lot of games as scum. What would you say are your scum tells? Be honest cuz I'm going to go through your scum games and I better be able to pick up on some.

Would you say your play in this game differs than from your play as scum

Well, I play town like a ****ing idiot. Notice how I've gotten lynched D1 every single time I'm town? Yeah.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I don't believe DH is showing much scum play. He stated that a lot of his votes were in fact purely pressure based. I see that when looking at his stuff. None of his posts show that he is tunneling at people trying to make them slip up and post something poor. I think Macman was trying to tunnel DH but that is my view. I think he should definitely be kept under the radar though.

I'm not showing much scum play, but I should be looked at after BW and should be kept under the radar? This reeks of you trying to stay in the middle of someone who is, unfortunatley, a lynch target.

Macman, do you think scumwolf would give you accurate scumtells?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

unvote

Badwolf, you can change that. You can't seriously say that all your D1 aren't your fault, put some damn effort into your posting, I know it's work but Mafia ain't easy.

/armchair

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ofc not, well I wanted to atleast make him sweat and have to atleast try and come up with tells that fit his scumplay. If he was scum i'd think he'd try to come up with something that he's not guilty of in this game...

he responded quickly and didn't even give me an answer... which just makes me feel like he's town... i know dumb ****, but still


also soup, what do you think about my ori post?

also dh I assume you agree with my ori post?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I agree that it's bad, and I agree with your reasons why, but I disagree about me being scum (obviously)

 

[#HBC | Mac]

do you think he's scum then?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Yes. Thinking a badwolf/ori scumteam.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

do you see any specific connections between them? or is it just because you think they're scummy independently?

So you think ori is bussing his partner?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

he says he doesn't see much scum play in DH, yet he says we should focus on DH tomorrow? wtf why would you want to focus on him tmrw if you don't see him as scum?

I think he's implying that DH should be looked at tommorow dependent on Badwolf's flip, or that's the jist I get out of it. The only thing I didn't like is him meshing them together when there's nothing at all that implies that they should be. He could elaborate on why he feels this way.

Your point about tunneling is good, and it's a cluster**** in itself, I'm not sure what Ori was thinking exactly regarding his point on DH there and the tunneling issue, but I did like his summary on why isn't scumreading DH, it may be a bit vague but it's straight-forward. What's the difference between NoobTown and NoobScum here besides the fact he literally contradicts himself?

The point about badwolf is w/e, needs elaboration but I agree I don't understand how personal emotions equal scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yes. Thinking a badwolf/ori scumteam.

Whaaaaat. Where do you see this exactly? I'd say not aligned if you wanted an honest opinion.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

because I don't see noobTown saying we should look at anyone tmrw unless they had some inclination on them being scum. I think newbScum would say that about DH if DH was their partner.

It looks like to me as if Ori is trying to distance but failing at it hardcore.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

But independent of anything else, I think it looks bad because his post contradicts itself.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Understandable, i'm more curious about DH's opinion about badwolf/ori being a team.

I want to make something clear here: just because I unvoted badwolf doesn't mean he's off the hook, he seems generally frustrated but I don't take any of that crap as telling unless it's gheb and he's really pulling out the water works. I want DH to further into why he thinks Badwolf/Ori seems plausible, and then I want Badwolf to get to his reads. The only thing I've noticed between them is that they've basically ignored each other, but considering Ori hasn't posted that much it doesn't seem to be very important at that instance.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

When the badwolf wagon started up, ori asked ran, and then later anyone else on the wagon about why they were pushing it, and saying that e wasn't really convinced. Fast forward to his next post, where he gives out his reads list, and he has badwolf as scum, which he nver really goes into detail, and doesn't push at all (and unlike macman, he explocitly said that he had badwolf as leaning scum)

Hence the connection.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

So you do think he's bussing. Do you think it's more likely that Baddy is scum than oriScum?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Yeah, but that's probably because ori has poste far less than badwolf.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Also that doesn't seem like much of a connection at all, seems more like scum hopping on an opportune wagon.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Guys I really think we have a DH/Ori scum team. I particularly dislike this post from DH

Soup town.

Ori leaning scum. The only things I rememer him doing was questioning people on the badwolf wagon and then put badwolf as scum, which reeks as scum initially trying to defend their partner, then starting to bus when it doesn't work.

I don't see how ori asking for clarification on the badwolf lynch is scummy at all or how that particular connects him to badwolf. It definitely didn't look anything like a defense... unlike ori's chainsaw-ish defense of Dark Horse in his #302.

This seems like quite the leap for dark horse to take. To me it looks like DH is doing a very common form of distancing. Similar to how gheb said in disney that John2k4 and me seems like either SvS or TvS.

so yea, I'm only voting one of them today.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

When the badwolf wagon started up, ori asked ran, and then later anyone else on the wagon about why they were pushing it, and saying that e wasn't really convinced. Fast forward to his next post, where he gives out his reads list, and he has badwolf as scum, which he nver really goes into detail, and doesn't push at all (and unlike macman, he explocitly said that he had badwolf as leaning scum)

Hence the connection.

I'll read it, and then probably vote if what you're saying is true.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

no soup! don't be fooled by that terribad reasoning

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Also that doesn't seem like much of a connection at all, seems more like scum hopping on an opportune wagon.

Eh? I'd say it does, considering how ori first asked everyone about badwolf, which doesn't really make sense if ori was just trying to jump onto an opporitunistic wagon. Also, when ori first had badwolf as scum, the focus wasn't really on badwolf. When does ori finally vote badwolf? When badwolf's in the ****ter.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

no soup! don't be fooled by that terribad reasoning

It's not about the connection i'm concerned, it's about what Ori did.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

DH, do you remember which posts that happened?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14808812#post14808812

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14810001#post14810001

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

1st post:

1. After reading the thread twice, I'm still not 100% convinced on a BW lynch can you please explain why you aare pushing it?

3. Badwolf28738 - Null-Scum, his play is way to wonky right now.

Ori, could you elaborate why you had Badwolf as null here and not full scum? You seem convinced recently but I'm not seeing what was holding you back.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

EBWOP: #172 you state your read on Badwolf. Explain how you went to full-scum during the interval of your latest post.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Eh? I'd say it does, considering how ori first asked everyone about badwolf, which doesn't really make sense if ori was just trying to jump onto an opporitunistic wagon. Also, when ori first had badwolf as scum, the focus wasn't really on badwolf. When does ori finally vote badwolf? When badwolf's in the ****ter.

1. After reading the thread twice, I'm still not 100% convinced on a BW lynch can you please explain why you aare pushing it?
2. How do you like Vinyl's play right now. After reading I always gave more time to reading his posts, especially the ones interacting with BW.

Doesn't really seem like much of a defense to me.

When ori had baddy is scum, Baddy was the only player in his list that was a scum read. Seems like Ori's intent was to push baddy. I don't really think ori would be so intent on bussing Baddy that he's the only person on the list. You don't think oriScum would have had atleast some other potentialScum options in his read list? So I don't really think your point about him focusing on baddy when he's in the ****ter is a good on.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah I'm not seeing the connection but what Ori did himself is fishy, I don't understand how Badwolf/Ori are a team here and I'm leaning more on the case Ori was just trying to find reasoning to hop later because during that time I was grilling Badwolf.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

It's not about the connection i'm concerned, it's about what Ori did.

DH was saying that what 'Ori did' connects him to BadWolf.

DH, if baddy was town, would you still suspect Ori?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I kinda want to talk about this further: Ori/Badwolf doesn't make sense to me at all mostly because Ori purposely put himself in the spotlight asking that question about Badwolf. He knew that I was grilling him at that time but to go out there and seem like he was caught like a deer in headlights doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure partners wouldn't leave them uninformed or let them act stupid towards a situation where said partner is getting grilled, it's more of a set-up like I explained.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

That's why ori/DH makes more sense soup! cmon now get with the program

I SEE YOU BADWOLF

what do you think about all this?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

I think it's rather ludicrous. While, yes, I probably am the most scummy right now. I don't see where a connection with Ori comes into play. I really don't like answering this question btw. It's full of wifom. I mean I say we haven't had a lot of connection and it looks like I'm trying to distance. I say we have and it looks like I'm trying to buddy. There isn't much room for me to answer in a very town way here.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what do you think about my post regarding ori, and what do you think about ori himself. If you're town you should be scum hunting man

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

His whole defence seems thin. He says things about the interaction between Vinyl and I and yet it was a total of like 5 posts max. There wasn't that much to go on and no reads were changed because of it. I don't like him at this point but he hasn't been that active he's had what? 30 posts? I don't like lynching inactives, but at this point I'd go for over a NL, although I'm still going to look over Soup.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

si gh

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I wish the summonerAU kid (SK) posted more

 

[#HBC | Mac]

hm, I just realized that finding the SK is more important than finding scum. If we lynch both scum back to back, we're in mylo...

But if we lynch the SK we can prevent kills, and basically just pick 2 obv townies and lynch everyone else.

Also, in mylo, we should No-Lynch, it gives the FBI time to investigate and also takes gives us a better chance of lynching scum.

yo wtf, this set up is hard...

 

[#HBC | Mac]

if we mislynch today we're in pseudo-mylo (with 6 players left and 1 town dies, it's up to the SK to kill mafia or mafia wins.) If we survive that we're in lylo where we HAVE to lynch SK.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Spoiler

What if Vinyl. is the SK

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh gawd