The Schoolgirl Famicom Detective, Ayumi Tachibana for Smash Switch (Famicom Detective Club Remakes Coming to the Switch)

[SharkLord]

i never thought i would see the day where Ayumi would start being a heavy topic in smashboards you guys are almost reaching 40 pages and it surprised me that people do actually care about her

Hey, what can I say; New releases are one hell of an adrenaline shot

 

[fogbadge]

Exactly. But one reason I can picture the Fire Emblem characters getting the pass was because Nintendo was already preparing to bring the series over to the west at the time.

no it was smash that brought them to the west

 

[JOJONumber691]

Exactly. But one reason I can picture the Fire Emblem characters getting the pass was because Nintendo was already preparing to bring the series over to the west at the time.

Actually, they almost got cut internationally, but was saved by NOA because of how fun they were.

 

[KingofUSA85]

no it was smash that brought them to the west

Smash probably helped but I don't think that's the only factor. Advanced wars a similar strategy game being a smash hit prior to FE's western release was also a probably a factor. Lord of the Rings was HUGE in those days as well and Nintendo wanted to cash in on it's success and Fire Emblem is kind of sorta Lord of the Ringish if you squint REALLY hard.

 

[Clumsyzephyr]

From what we know, FE was also a popular request from fans at the time so I imagine that played a large role in them getting prioritized.

 

[KingofUSA85]

I have both games downloaded on my Switch now. They will be playable upon the release date.

 

[amageish]

From what we know, FE was also a popular request from fans at the time so I imagine that played a large role in them getting prioritized.

Plus, FE was an ongoing franchise from one of Nintendo's closest development partners (seriously, Intelligent Systems has either made or supported development on a Nintendo game every year since 1983), while Ayumi would have been one among many potential retro throwbacks...

 

[Sheng Long]

Ayumi would not only be a cool retro character to throw in, but also a VN rep which we don't have in Smash yet.

 

[FemMain26]

I`m happy to see that Ayumi is being heavily focused now on this site. I believe she`s that sleeper pick that most people are unaware of. Also i`ve just downloaded The Girl Who Stands Behind on my Switch so i can`t wait to play it once it releases.

 

[fogbadge]

Smash probably helped but I don't think that's the only factor. Advanced wars a similar strategy game being a smash hit prior to FE's western release was also a probably a factor. Lord of the Rings was HUGE in those days as well and Nintendo wanted to cash in on it's success and Fire Emblem is kind of sorta Lord of the Ringish if you squint REALLY hard.

ok but it still wasnt the fact that they were being brought to the west that got them in smash it happened after

 

[KingofUSA85]

I`m happy to see that Ayumi is being heavily focused now on this site. I believe she`s that sleeper pick that most people are unaware of. Also i`ve just downloaded The Girl Who Stands Behind on my Switch so i can`t wait to play it once it releases.

Yes, she definitly has a good shot but lets not go around the internet and brag about how shes a shoe in like Skull Kid, Geno and Crash fans did. Lets keep it on the down low. Let people be shocked if she is announced.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Yes, she definitly has a good shot but lets not go around the internet and brag about how shes a shoe in like Skull Kid, Geno and Crash fans did. Lets keep it on the down low. Let people be shocked if she is announced.

Essentially, don’t make people hate your character. Please? Seriously these types of fans drove me to not want Crash and hate Geno.

 

[fogbadge]

Essentially, don’t make people hate your character. Please? Seriously these types of fans drove me to not want Crash and hate Geno.

that’s why I hate Waluigi

 

[Commander_Alph]

Essentially, don’t make people hate your character. Please? Seriously these types of fans drove me to not want Crash and hate Geno.

Ayumi is already an underdog in Smash, usually not being the most wanted and 1st party so the chances of someone ruining her reputation is there, I feel annoyed with Hayabusa and their "fans" so I hope it won't happen like ever.

 

[MattX20]

I never treat any characters I support or follow in terms of speculation as guarantees or shoe-ins. There are always factors that can hold them back. That, and as a Geno fan, I thought he was likely based on how stingy Square was with FF in particular combined with the fact his Mii Costume didn't show up with the DQ heroes. However, as Sephiroth proves, there are alternative answers you have to keep your eyes open for.

 

[KingofUSA85]

Of the characters that did make it in, i found K. Rool and Banjo fans the most infuriating.

As an Ashley fan i was upset when many of her fans engaged in that behavior, though not nearly as much as the charcters i previously mentioned. That episode made me really hope Ayumi fans dont do the same. I already saw a few ayumi fans flirt with kicking the behive on gamefaqs. Fortunatly the bees didnt sting as much as I thought.

I want her odds to be kept underwrap and then have everyone be shocked if she is announced

 

[fogbadge]

I want her odds to be kept underwrap and then have everyone be shocked if she is announced

i think she might be one of the few left who would shock me

 

[amageish]

Let's not turn this thread into just complaining about the behavior of other fandoms (even if it's complaining about the how other fandoms complain)!

That said, yeah, if Ayumi gets in, then I hope people wouldn't be awful to non-fans about it. I'm sure people generally would be salty - she's a first-party that I'm sure would be dismissed as a promotional shill pick - but there's a difference between acknowledging her history and the merits of her inclusion and, like, just dunking on people who didn't get what they wanted...

I also don't really think there's much benefit in trying to convince people any character is a 100%-basically-confirmed lock, as all that'll really do is make people who don't want that character preemptively salty and increase the salt output from people who do want that character if they don't get in...

Personally, at this point, I think there's a giant pool of "logical" picks and it's really just a matter of what Nintendo is prioritizing, so I'm not too hopeful or pessimistic about any individual character...

 

[Dan Quixote]

Speaking of fans... Now I'm getting curious as to the type of fandom the FDC games proper will create. Outside of just Smash. Visual novels do have a history of founding some pretty odd fandoms, but in like an endearing way most of the time. We'll probably see like a lot of ships and fanfic and stuff when the games come out lmao

 

[fogbadge]

Speaking of fans... Now I'm getting curious as to the type of fandom the FDC games proper will create. Outside of just Smash. Visual novels do have a history of founding some pretty odd fandoms, but in like an endearing way most of the time. We'll probably see like a lot of ships and fanfic and stuff when the games come out lmao

they have?

 

[Clumsyzephyr]

As a Danganronpa fan, I understand what you mean. Though I really hope FDC will get a decently sized fanbase

 

[amageish]

Hopefully the fanbase is just, uh, a little more spoiler-sensitive then a lot of VN fanbases are lol.

We'll probably see like a lot of ships and fanfic and stuff when the games come out lmao

Also, yeah, probably going to be a lot of fan content. I may be part of the problem there... It currently doesn't seem to have an AO3 tag; I wonder how long that'll last...

 

[Dan Quixote]

Hopefully the fanbase is just, uh, a little more spoiler-sensitive then a lot of VN fanbases are lol.



Also, yeah, probably going to be a lot of fan content. I may be part of the problem there... It currently doesn't seem to have an AO3 tag; I wonder how long that'll last...

Wow seriously? Dang and I thought pretty much everything got an AO3 tag lol

 

[fogbadge]

Hopefully the fanbase is just, uh, a little more spoiler-sensitive then a lot of VN fanbases are lol.

maybe its a good thing im a fan of obscure ones

 

[amageish]

Wow seriously? Dang and I thought pretty much everything got an AO3 tag lol

Apparently neither Famicom Detective or Ayumi Tachibana has had any fanworks there yet, though it's also possible it's just scattered enough that no mod has bothered to find and tag it? I'm guessing that'll change within a week of the game being out in English though, if someone doesn't pre-emptively make it a tag just because it's a new Nintendo game that targets a fanworks-heavy audience...

 

[KingofUSA85]

Apparently neither Famicom Detective or Ayumi Tachibana has had any fanworks there yet, though it's also possible it's just scattered enough that no mod has bothered to find and tag it? I'm guessing that'll change within a week of the game being out in English though, if someone doesn't pre-emptively make it a tag just because it's a new Nintendo game that targets a fanworks-heavy audience...

I commissioned two artworks for Ayumi I posted one on this thread but then someone stole it to use for their youtube video. I was upset so I only posted the 2nd one for two days before I took it down. I doubt I'd ever post either of them again. I also regret only ordering half bodies. I wish I ordered full body artwork.

EDIT: Also, Does Ayumi really like Heavy Metal Music or is that something NOA made up?

 

[Deleted member]

EDIT: Also, Does Ayumi really like Heavy Metal Music or is that something NOA made up?

I took a look at Ayumi's bio in the manual of the first game as well as the official sites for both, the SFC remake and the two Switch remakes and unless I missed something, I didn't see single mention of her music taste, nor a single mention of her Naginata skills come to think of it. Just the usual of her being your assistant in the detective agency/high school girl working with you to solve her friend's death, depending on the game.

Maybe it's something that will come up in the first game, I dunno. But I couldn't find anything in any of her official bios. Though granted, I didn't look that hard either as I don't want to accidentally stumble over spoilers.

 

[KingofUSA85]

I took a look at Ayumi's bio in the manual of the first game as well as the official sites for both, the SFC remake and the two Switch remakes and unless I missed something, I didn't see single mention of her music taste, nor a single mention of her Naginata skills come to think of it. Just the usual of her being your assistant in the detective agency/high school girl working with you to solve her friend's death, depending on the game.

Maybe it's something that will come up in the first game, I dunno. But I couldn't find anything in any of her official bios. Though granted, I didn't look that hard either as I don't want to accidentally stumble over spoilers.

I think the Naginata thing is true due to this photo from one of the earlier games.

However, I am worried that NOA just invented the Heavy metal thing out of thin air. There is a disturbing trend in USA Media to turn Tender girls into tough girls in sequels and remakes even if it's contrary to their character. I am still fuming over what they did to Amy Rose in the Sonic Boom TV show(and knuckles as well).

 

[fogbadge]

I am still fuming over what they did to Amy Rose in the Sonic Boom TV show(and knuckles as well).

amy's been aggressive for years. knuckles was defiantly dumber than usual

 

[KingofUSA85]

amy's been aggressive for years. knuckles was defiantly dumber than usual

Yes, she had the occasional temper but she was always a tender kind hearted girl who loved sonic. In boom they made her into merely a Female version of Sonic(without the coolness factor). And knuckles they turned into your stereotypical dumb jock character(although he was hilarious at times).

 

[JOJONumber691]

Yes, she had the occasional temper but she was always a tender kind hearted girl who loved sonic. In boom they made her into merely a Female version of Sonic(without the coolness factor). And knuckles they turned into your stereotypical dumb jock character(although he was hilarious at times).

Yeah. Because Boom was a far more comedic series and making Amy not be childishly attracted to Sonic leads to better comedy since the main 5 characters lived together.

 

[fogbadge]

Yes, she had the occasional temper but she was always a tender kind hearted girl who loved sonic. In boom they made her into merely a Female version of Sonic(without the coolness factor). And knuckles they turned into your stereotypical dumb jock character(although he was hilarious at times).

well I only watched the one series and I mostly remember how cute tails was

 

[KingofUSA85]

Yeah. Because Boom was a far more comedic series and making Amy not be childishly attracted to Sonic leads to better comedy since the main 5 characters lived together.

Amy's attraction to sonic wasnt anymore "childish" than nearly every romance ever.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Amy's attraction to sonic wasnt anymore "childish" than nearly every romance ever.

One-Sided in the same house.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Speaking of fans... Now I'm getting curious as to the type of fandom the FDC games proper will create. Outside of just Smash. Visual novels do have a history of founding some pretty odd fandoms, but in like an endearing way most of the time. We'll probably see like a lot of ships and fanfic and stuff when the games come out lmao

It makes me excited to see how the Famicom Detective Club fandom in the west will evolve after the remakes come out here in the next few days. Hopefully more people will push for Ayumi to make it into Smash if she doesn't make it into Ultimate.

 

[amageish]

While Ayumi's heavy metal interest isn't mentioned in the Japanese website from what I can tell, the Japanese website also has a bunch of short bios for everyone instead of the two longer bios for the protagonist and Ayumi that the English website has... So, I don't find it particularly weird that they didn't choose to highlight her hobbies on the Japanese website.

It's also maybe worth noting that the heavy metal thing is only mentioned on the English page for The Missing Heir, not The Girl Who Stands Behind, once she's already grown up a bit and is taking a more confidant role in the story.

 

[MattX20]

Let's not turn this thread into just complaining about the behavior of other fandoms (even if it's complaining about the how other fandoms complain)!

That said, yeah, if Ayumi gets in, then I hope people wouldn't be awful to non-fans about it. I'm sure people generally would be salty - she's a first-party that I'm sure would be dismissed as a promotional shill pick - but there's a difference between acknowledging her history and the merits of her inclusion and, like, just dunking on people who didn't get what they wanted...

I also don't really think there's much benefit in trying to convince people any character is a 100%-basically-confirmed lock, as all that'll really do is make people who don't want that character preemptively salty and increase the salt output from people who do want that character if they don't get in...

Personally, at this point, I think there's a giant pool of "logical" picks and it's really just a matter of what Nintendo is prioritizing, so I'm not too hopeful or pessimistic about any individual character...

I'm pretty sure people would be kinder to her since she's not an FE character and seemingly not a sword user, so she wouldn't get the massive amount of hatred Byleth got.

 

[KingofUSA85]

I'm pretty sure people would be kinder to her since she's not an FE character and seemingly not a sword user, so she wouldn't get the massive amount of hatred Byleth got.

KindER than a FE or Sword user is still pretty bad...

 

[amageish]

I'm pretty sure people would be kinder to her since she's not an FE character and seemingly not a sword user, so she wouldn't get the massive amount of hatred Byleth got.

True, but I'm thinking more ARMS/Min-Min level of salt/negativity. The first-party picks that many general fans find underwhelming as they had expectations of huge third parties while simultaneously many first-party fans get annoyed that the first-parties selected weren't the ones they wanted...

Min Min didn't get the initial backlash of Byleth, but she still trends on Twitter like once a month as people discuss their desire to remove her from the roster or to generally just complain about her.

 

[fogbadge]

True, but I'm thinking more ARMS/Min-Min level of salt/negativity. The first-party picks that many general fans find underwhelming as they had expectations of huge third parties while simultaneously many first-party fans get annoyed that the first-parties selected weren't the ones they wanted...

Min Min didn't get the initial backlash of Byleth, but she still trends on Twitter like once a month as people discuss their desire to remove her from the roster or to generally just complain about her.

people are always looking for something to complain about. i wonder if they use the "included for a flimsy reason" logic