The Sassy Princess of Sarasaland: Daisy for SSB4 (A New Daisy for Smash Thread Opens See Pg. 197)

[aldelaro5]

Club Nintendo got shut down because as a reward program it wasn't very good, so they are making a new one in it's place. It had nothing to do with Sticker Star.

Miyamoto is known to have a lot of power at Nintendo and gets to dictate more than you would think. Hyrule Warriors was originally gonna play more like a Zelda game, but Miyamoto had them make it closer to Dynasty Warriors. That's one of the best decision he's made in a while, though.

ok my poiint wasn;t obvious.

the SS situation shows me one thing that I really think you could be worried for the other games that used these data. it's like the polar opposite of what was going on, but this should NEVER happen for a system made to gather marketting data.

My point is I am sure it's not the only situation where the data were accurate because if you think about it, this was at the time where the communication of nintendo as a whole felt.....meh.

As for why I think so, it';s known these survey are quite rushed usually. If you don;t get accurate data why you keep that system?

This was my point, it's not SS, it's the way I think club nintendo worked that made situations like SS happens. I do think it might have happened elsewhere because for some reasons, as soon as the wiiu released, everything communication wise started to fix....we are now gone quite far.

This is why i think they shut down the program, it jsut didn't do the intended job. SS to me is an example of this communication issue and again, it would translate to influence myamoto.

The ONLY thing I will say was a bad decision was even shifting the project. It just was in itself a bad decision because it was simply too late, when you have so much assets useless in a single day, you could expect to be messed up, they tried, but it just couldn;t do it.

and btw, think about spm which I am sure myamoto was involved, he let pass that and it had a crazy deep story.

I honestly think I have not enough to go the the point of hating him, I have more reasons to think it improved....anyway.

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

RIP the Daisy portion of the Daisy thread

 

[Ark of Silence101]

RIP the Daisy portion of the Daisy thread

Would it ease your mind if I told I happened to come across two casuals who voted for Daisy today?

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I suggest we stop going off topic in here.

Anymore offtopic talk should go into PM or cease and desist.

 

[memoryman3]

Would it ease your mind if I told I happened to come across two casuals who voted for Daisy today?

Ooh! Me want to know story.

Not sarcasm.

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

Would it ease your mind if I told I happened to come across two casuals who voted for Daisy today?

Well that's quite nice. c:

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Ooh! Me want to know story.

Not sarcasm.

Well that's quite nice. c:

As you can all see even in parts where I live where most of the gaming community is all "COD and God Of War!" She has a lot of popularity going for her.

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

I'm not a believer of theories or any of the differentiating art style stuff that's been tossed around in various places. The way i see it, she's been in games with them since the N64, in bits and in 3D, so i'm not too sure of what the issue would be. Sounds like a clever ruse to me personally, or i'm just not keeping up with this stuff.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

I'm not a believer of theories or any of the differentiating art style stuff that's been tossed around in various places. The way i see it, she's been in games with them since the N64, in bits and in 3D, so i'm not too sure of what the issue would be. Sounds like a clever ruse to me personally, or i'm just not keeping up with this stuff.

Do you really think she is the third most requested character in Japan?

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

Do you really think she is the third most requested character in Japan?

I know she is quite popular in Japan. 3rd most requested? That i couldn't be too sure of, as the Japanese are very wide spread in their appeal, considering all the cultures that are present. I do know Shovel Knight, for example, is relatively unknown there, however. Japan's gaming culture is generally comprised of Arcades and Mobile Gaming, and have a VERY nationalistic approach to things (hence why the XB360 and XBOne completely bombed there). Generally any characters considered to be "Western" in origin won't get far in their ballot, as opposed to here. I've heard Daisy is more popular there than Rosalina (not a shot at her fanbase, i like Rosa), but that i can't confirm obviously. I wouldn't say she's the 3rd most requested, but it wouldn't shock me if she was high up there. I'm surprised Goemon isn't as requested as he is in Japan, they love Goemon.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

I know she is quite popular in Japan. 3rd most requested? That i couldn't be too sure of, as the Japanese are very wide spread in their appeal, considering all the cultures that are present. I do know Shovel Knight, for example, is relatively unknown there, however. Japan's gaming culture is generally comprised of Arcades and Mobile Gaming, and have a VERY nationalistic approach to things (hence why the XB360 and XBOne completely bombed there). Generally any characters considered to be "Western" in origin won't get far in their ballot, as opposed to here. I've heard Daisy is more popular there than Rosalina (not a shot at her fanbase, i like Rosa), but that i can't confirm obviously. I wouldn't say she's the 3rd most requested, but it wouldn't shock me if she was high up there. I'm surprised Goemon isn't as requested as he is in Japan, they love Goemon.

I would not quite be sure about 3rd either, it's just a guy in Miiverse says that she is the third most requested there, but of course I know not to take claims like these for granted, I asked because I just wanted to hear your thoughts, and Daisy is more popular than Rosalina there? And I thought she stomped harder there than here...

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

The last person I heard was 3rd most wanted was Ridley I think (if not including veterans I think, otherwise he's 5th). But that was a long while ago, and she may have bumped up a bit from wherever her placement was before. Wolf and Lucas was the top, but since Lucas is back, Wolf's like the most requested character at this point.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

The last person I heard was 3rd most wanted was Ridley I think (if not including veterans I think, otherwise he's 5th). But that was a long while ago, and she may have bumped up a bit from wherever her placement was before. Wolf and Lucas was the top, but since Lucas is back, Wolf's like the most requested character at this point.

As in veterans definitely, as for newcomers let's see.

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

This is what i think may happen, but don't hold me to this, cause i don't know:
August: Tournament Mode, YT Replays, Peach's Castle 64 and Hyrule Castle 64, New Character (possibly Wolf)
September: nothing XD
October: end of ballot, maybe 1 character announcement (K.Rool more than likely)
November/December: 2-3 more characters announced, 2-3 stages maybe, end of DLC.

 

[Deleted member]

This is what i think may happen, but don't hold me to this, cause i don't know:
August: Tournament Mode, YT Replays, Peach's Castle 64 and Hyrule Castle 64, New Character (possibly Wolf)
September: nothing XD
October: end of ballot, maybe 1 character announcement (K.Rool more than likely)
November/December: 2-3 more characters announced, 2-3 stages maybe, end of DLC.

I agree that DLC will probably end around year's end, which is about a year after the game came out. Because similarly, Mario Kart 8 DLC ended about a year after its release, and we know Sakurai doesn't want to do this forever.

 

[Hana Na Tahou]

Sakurai doesn't want to do this forever.

Sakurai's wanted out for a while now XD he's also claimed to be contemplating retirement cause of the "stress" his job gives him. I'll take his job no problem XD

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai's wanted out for a while now XD he's also claimed to be contemplating retirement cause of the "stress" his job gives him. I'll take his job no problem XD

Sakurai has given us some amazing games, but at this point I'm curious to see where a new Smash director might take the series. I wouldn't want an overhaul, but a new director might do things Sakurai wouldn't.... like add in Daisy. There, still on topic.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Sakurai has given us some amazing games, but at this point I'm curious to see where a new Smash director might take the series. I wouldn't want an overhaul, but a new director might do things Sakurai wouldn't.... like add in Daisy. There, still on topic.

I can already tell what the chances and wants of that once it's time for a new director to be spoken about in the Rate Their Chances Thread.

"Chance: 30%

Sakurai said countless times that he doesn't want to direct Smash, but he handles the series with care. He even considers it a baby that he would never let go off since someone new might not do it any justice. The new director could be good like simply giving us characters like Ridley and King K. Rool. But he would probably turn the game into an unbalanced mess like PlayStation All Stars or give us terrible characters that we don't want (Hellooooooooooooo Daisy!). In the end, I think Sakurai will still make Super Smash Bros 5 himself without Iwata since he cares deeply about his fanbase despite their flaws.

Want: 25%

Love Sakurai and no one can replace him. The new director would easily make mistakes and he won't be as fun as that trolling developer. While I wouldn't mind Ridley having his chance to be playable, I do not want to these series to lose the guy who made the games enjoyable (especially Brawl). Plus, the fandom request all sorts of terrible choices like Goku or Shantae and I doubt that the new director would be smart enough to avoid that. And don't remind me of the horrid Fire Emblem and Mario bias that would happen because of the crazy fandom. So I'd rather have the series dead than to have Sakurai leave it to a noob that would probably ruin it with his terrible ideals."

Doesn't reflect my personal opinion and I have a hunch we'll se a lot of responses like that when the time comes.

 

[Zeldaisy]

I'm dying of stress and work and depression

How you guys doing? (´ヮ`)

Dammit I know I read that enterview about Daisy and Wario somewhere but I don't remember well, I'll check throughout my history gotta delete my yaoi doujin searches first

That's a very bad Daisy in a kimono sketch but whatever, I am definitively going to color her skin with her old school tan, making her look so much cuter imo.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I'm dying of stress and work and depression

How you guys doing? (´ヮ`)

Dammit I know I read that enterview about Daisy and Wario somewhere but I don't remember well, I'll check throughout my history gotta delete my yaoi doujin searches first

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That's a very bad Daisy in a kimono sketch but whatever, I am definitively going to color her skin with her old school tan, making her look so much cuter imo.

That looks rather cute. I live the curveiness of the posture.

 

[memoryman3]

Everyone that I come across says that Daisy doesn't have any traits or powers....

When I mention anything about flowers and crystals, they say everyone els has the same kinds of powers because of "spinoff reasons"

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Everyone that I come across says that Daisy doesn't have any traits or powers....

When I mention anything about flowers and crystals, they say everyone els has the same kinds of powers because of "spinoff reasons"

Ignorants.

 

[FalKoopa]

I should apologise to taking the thread off topic. >_<

I'm dying of stress and work and depression

How you guys doing? (´ヮ`)

Dammit I know I read that enterview about Daisy and Wario somewhere but I don't remember well, I'll check throughout my history gotta delete my yaoi doujin searches first

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That's a very bad Daisy in a kimono sketch but whatever, I am definitively going to color her skin with her old school tan, making her look so much cuter imo.

I think it's fine except for the eyes.

 

[memoryman3]

Finally found this Reddit thread from a long time ago!

Look at how many upvotes the anti-Daisy comments have....

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Finally found this Reddit thread from a long time ago!

Look at how many upvotes the anti-Daisy comments have....

Don't be surprised this is Reddit we are talking about, and no Rosalina has NOT made Daisy obsolete.

 

[HanAmes]

Don't be surprised this is Reddit we are talking about, and no Rosalina has NOT made Daisy obsolete.

I wonder what they'd do if you say that you're a Daisy fan on that page? I'm almost tempted in doing that.

 

[KeyFortune]

I wonder what they'd do if you say that you're a Daisy fan on that page? I'm almost tempted in doing that.

Whatever haters and trolls do.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

I wonder what they'd do if you say that you're a Daisy fan on that page? I'm almost tempted in doing that.

You'd be down voted to the cranks, on the other hand in Japan, while I don't have a source, I keep hearing that Daisy is still more popular than Rosalina(Albeit not by much, no offense to her fans), sometimes I wish the gaming community here in the west was at least half as respectful as in the east.

 

[KeyFortune]

You'd be down voted to the cranks, on the other hand in Japan, while I don't have a source, I keep hearing that Daisy is still more popular than Rosalina(Albeit not by much, no offense to her fans), sometimes I wish the gaming community here in the west was at least half as respectful as in the east.

Well TBH we don't really know how the East feels about our votes although I remember one person telling me it's not good.

 

[HanAmes]

You'd be down voted to the cranks, on the other hand in Japan, while I don't have a source, I keep hearing that Daisy is still more popular than Rosalina(Albeit not by much, no offense to her fans), sometimes I wish the gaming community here in the west was at least half as respectful as in the east.

Whatever haters and trolls do.

Okay, second thought, not gonna waste my time with 'em that I'll never get back. It's still childish to hate fictional characters like that, still. And if they somehow catch wind of me calling them 'childish,' then perfect. I WANT them to hear it. Repercussions don't matter to me, but I'll STILL feel accomplished.

Sorry for being a little 'dark' today, btw.

 

[KeyFortune]

Okay, second thought, not gonna waste my time with 'em that I'll never get back. It's still childish to hate fictional characters like that, still. And if they somehow catch wind of me calling them 'childish,' then perfect. I WANT them to hear it. Repercussions don't matter to me, but I'll STILL feel accomplished.

Sorry for being a little 'dark' today, btw.

Well if you do end up going there then good luck.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Okay, second thought, not gonna waste my time with 'em that I'll never get back. It's still childish to hate fictional characters like that, still. And if they somehow catch wind of me calling them 'childish,' then perfect. I WANT them to hear it. Repercussions don't matter to me, but I'll STILL feel accomplished.

Sorry for being a little 'dark' today, btw.

Good luck, you are going to need it.

 

[HanAmes]

Well if you do end up going there then good luck.

Good luck, you are going to need it.

I'm actually not gonna go there, because if I do, I might lose my mind. So, the best thing to do is to just let them do their thing, while we do ours. Just don't feel like damage-controlling because, there are some things you just cannot fix. Talking to haters in Reddit, and even Gamefaqs is like talking to a brick wall.

Anyway, back on the subject of Princess Daisy...

One of the reasons why I'm a fan of Daisy is because out of the three Mario gals, Daisy has the strongest persona, and carries herself in a more tough demeanor. Example in Mario Strikers Charged: Peach would just hop up and down, pouting, crying, and looking for support from her own teammates, where Daisy on the other hand will get angry and sorta...'whip her teammates into shape.' Daisy's mannerisms is something I identify more with, and is more relatable in the world of sports.

Outside of all of this 'irrelevant, fodder, filler, spin-off' words that they seem to throw Daisy's way, what baffles me is, how and why a tough, headstrong princess like Daisy isn't in Smash yet, while we have the likes of Rosalina and Peach, who don't really seem that tough to begin with? (maybe except for Rosalina) I just really want the higher ups in Nintendo to at least give her a chance in any of the main games because she already has a foundation of a personality and perhaps, combat prowess to begin with.

 

[KeyFortune]

I'm actually not gonna go there, because if I do, I might lose my mind. So, the best thing to do is to just let them do their thing, while we do ours. Just don't feel like damage-controlling because, there are some things you just cannot fix. Talking to haters in Reddit, and even Gamefaqs is like talking to a brick wall.

Anyway, back on the subject of Princess Daisy...

One of the reasons why I'm a fan of Daisy is because out of the three Mario gals, Daisy has the strongest persona, and carries herself in a more tough demeanor. Example in Mario Strikers Charged: Peach would just hop up and down, pouting, crying, and looking for support from her own teammates, where Daisy on the other hand will get angry and sorta...'whip her teammates into shape.' Daisy's mannerisms is something I identify more with, and is more relatable in the world of sports.

Outside of all of this 'irrelevant, fodder, filler, spin-off' words that they seem to throw Daisy's way, what baffles me is, how and why a tough, headstrong princess like Daisy isn't in Smash yet, while we have the likes of Rosalina and Peach, who don't really seem that tough to begin with? (maybe except for Rosalina) I just really want the higher ups in Nintendo to at least give her a chance in any of the main games because she already has a foundation of a personality and perhaps, combat prowess to begin with.

Yeah. It always weirded me out how Daisy has been made with such a developed personality yet hasn't made it into a mainline game yet.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

I'm actually not gonna go there, because if I do, I might lose my mind. So, the best thing to do is to just let them do their thing, while we do ours. Just don't feel like damage-controlling because, there are some things you just cannot fix. Talking to haters in Reddit, and even Gamefaqs is like talking to a brick wall.

Anyway, back on the subject of Princess Daisy...

One of the reasons why I'm a fan of Daisy is because out of the three Mario gals, Daisy has the strongest persona, and carries herself in a more tough demeanor. Example in Mario Strikers Charged: Peach would just hop up and down, pouting, crying, and looking for support from her own teammates, where Daisy on the other hand will get angry and sorta...'whip her teammates into shape.' Daisy's mannerisms is something I identify more with, and is more relatable in the world of sports.

Outside of all of this 'irrelevant, fodder, filler, spin-off' words that they seem to throw Daisy's way, what baffles me is, how and why a tough, headstrong princess like Daisy isn't in Smash yet, while we have the likes of Rosalina and Peach, who don't really seem that tough to begin with? (maybe except for Rosalina) I just really want the higher ups in Nintendo to at least give her a chance in any of the main games because she already has a foundation of a personality and perhaps, combat prowess to begin with.

Yeah. It always weirded me out how Daisy has been made with such a developed personality yet hasn't made it into a mainline game yet.

Miyamoto said in a interview that the only princess the main series needs is Peach ant that Rosalina made it because of how popular she had gotten.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Miyamoto said in a interview that the only princess the main series needs is Peach ant that Rosalina made it because of how popular she had gotten.

Imo, there really isn't any reason for Daisy to be a part of the mainline series, cause Mario should be focusing on Peach and Luigi should for Daisy in her kingdom, honestly speaking. That's why I would prefer a spinoff series featuring either Luigi and Daisy together, or just Daisy akin to the Wario Land/ Ware series.

 

[HanAmes]

Imo, there really isn't any reason for Daisy to be a part of the mainline series, cause Mario should be focusing on Peach and Luigi should for Daisy in her kingdom, honestly speaking. That's why I would prefer a spinoff series featuring either Luigi and Daisy together, or just Daisy akin to the Wario Land/ Ware series.

OR, they could make a game, featuring herself in HER universe, since Daisy is popular to many peeps as well.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Imo, there really isn't any reason for Daisy to be a part of the mainline series, cause Mario should be focusing on Peach and Luigi should for Daisy in her kingdom, honestly speaking. That's why I would prefer a spinoff series featuring either Luigi and Daisy together, or just Daisy akin to the Wario Land/ Ware series.

Super Luigi U was a golden chance for this, who knows? Maybe when the ballot is over...

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

....Well...

I just saw CinamaSins video of the Super Mario Bros movie....

The only thing that had "right" in any sense of the word would just be the DaisyXLuigi part of all of that...thing....that was a movie... Wat was that that I just watched? o-o

 

[Ark of Silence101]

....Well...

I just saw CinamaSins video of the Super Mario Bros movie....

The only thing that had "right" in any sense of the word would just be the DaisyXLuigi part of all of that...thing....that was a movie... Wat was that that I just watched? o-o

Same here. Only correct part of that, the rest just makes me wanna go and headbutt myself on a wall.

Hey @ Zeldaisy , what are your thoughts on the people who say the Support Peach community on Miiverse is now the Daisy 4 Sm4sh community?