Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[AndreaAC]

It would be hard to trademark the word amigo, I presume? I mean, it is a very common word in Portuguese (maybe in Spanish too).

I like Roidley's design, so I would be bothered. Though a Zero Mission Ridley amiibo would be much, much better.

Amigo just means friend...so I sitll don't get why...but oh well, who cares about the name...

I would take any of these designs over Roidley any day...but since it is a high quality figure,,,I wouldn't mind that much it looked like Roidley...

and my soft spot for Ridley's EXTREMELY COMPLEX Omega form design is growing...that is why now when I do the Ridley and Roidley "comics" Ridley has some parts that resemble it, and I'm transforming him bit by bit, and also for practice...

 

[AbioFlesh]

STOP

Let's pretend nobody ever said anything and talk more about fanfiction and Kraid.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Speaking of Amiibos, did anyone figure out exactly what caused that small explosion on Pyrosphere in the E3 trailer introducing them? You know, the one that had Mario and Mii fighting on it.

The Mii fired a missile, which exploded as it passed Mario.

 

[Lanog20]

It's just something that's been bugging me recently, and I never bothered to check back in this thread after that direct. I just want an answer, that's all.

Well for starters, he was never deconfirmed sooo...

 

[AbioFlesh]

Here we go again.

By the way, speaking of Kraid, I am still disappointed Meta Kraid never got to appear in the Metroid Prime series

If there is ever a Metroid Prime 4, he better appear as a boss, with this exact design:

Ugh, those chins.. But I agree, they should use that design.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

It's just something that's been bugging me recently, and I never bothered to check back in this thread after that direct. I just want an answer, that's all.

Well, his size is questionably small, his animation is choppy, and "clearly deconfirming" Ridley puts on a ton of ambiguity when you just show a shadow. The lack of any concrete information about Pyrosphere adds to the bonfire, not helped by the absence of the Pyrosphere in the E3 demo, which implies Sakurai is hiding something.

And remember when Phosphora was confirmed to be a mere trophy? Not even an Assist Trophy?

At best, Sakurai implied Ridley was a Boss CHARACTER, without actually showing the damn dragon. The total ambiguity is why I'm here.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I dunno, I just can't buy that. I mean, I'm all for Ridley being playable, and if he is, great. But that just seems like really weak reasoning to me.

Nobody wants to go through it again because we just went through three whole pages of this. Check the past few pages and see all the arguments for yourself.

 

[Mr.Seven]

Leave, now. You're only going to get a headache out of this.

Not really, since I wasn't looking for a debate. I just wanted an answer, which I recieved. (I probably should have worded my original post better.) I used to support Ridley. You can find some posts I made putting my support for him if you look back in the thread far enough. It's just the reasons that were stated felt really weak. But hey, whatever floats their boat.

I personally think he's deconfirmed, but will put my full support next time around.

 

[Reila]

Amigo just means friend...so I sitll don't get why...but oh well, who cares about th name...

I know it means friend and that is what could make it hard to trademark. It is a simple word. Amiibo on other hand, is a play with the word amigo and... something else.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I dunno, I just can't buy that. I mean, I'm all for Ridley being playable, and if he is, great. But that just seems like really weak reasoning to me.

Theres no question that he is possibly a boss, but that doesnt rule out him having dual roles. Especially since sakurai seems to want to hide it, for whatever reason, its not like he thinks we wouldnt know who it is, so why the secrecy? It could be a toon link situation, he was directly infront of us, so many assumed the worst, but with the stigma around it, it just seems very odd even for sakurai.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Not really, since I wasn't looking for a debate. I just wanted an answer, which I recieved. I used to support Ridley. You can find some posts I made putting my support for him if you look back in the thread far enough. It's just the reasons that were stated felt really weak. But hey, whatever floats their boat.

I personally think he's deconfirmed, but will put my full support next time around.

Ridley's shadow implies he's incredibly small. Comparing it to Mother Brain's shadow makes it even more evident. His movements are wonky, not like a boss character. Right towards the end he sort of "jumps" like typical flying characters with multiple jumps would, and not at all like a boss would move. And that's just based on Ridley's shadow.

Then, for whatever reason, despite being one of the earliest stages shown off, Pyrosphere was not in the demo.

Theres no question that he is possibly a boss, but that doesnt rule out him having dual roles. Especially since sakurai seems to want to hide it, for whatever reason, its not like he thinks we wouldnt know who it is, so why the secrecy?

No, I disagree with this notion entirely. He's either a boss or he's playable, not both.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Alright; Thank you @Angelglory, for the Pyrosphere texture, you just made my night.

Behold: Ridley's largest possible size.

 

[AbioFlesh]

Please... stop... These repetitive discussions hurt my soul.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

No, I disagree with this notion entirely. He's either a boss or he's playable, not both.

Why cant he be both? There are multiple ridley's, with clones and all, and we know for a fact the the one seen is from other m. Its not far fetched at all

 

[Mr.Seven]

Why cant he be both? There are multiple ridley's, with clones and all, and we know for a fact the the one seen is from other m. Its not far fetched at all

The only way I could see being both would be if one were normal Ridley while the other would be Meta-Ridley.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Alright; Thank you @Angelglory, for the Pyrosphere texture, you just made my night.

Behold: Ridley's largest possible size.
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Honestly he looks a bit too small there, but who knows. Its hard to guess anything based on the shadow, but there's no way the shadow is anything close to his actual size, that we can guarantee.

Why cant he be both? There are multiple ridley's, with clones and all, and we know for a fact the the one seen is from other m. Its not far fetched at all

Its possible, I suppose, I just don't think its a good argument and I don't see it happening.

 

[Reila]

Why cant he be both? There are multiple ridley's, with clones and all, and we know for a fact the the one seen is from other m. Its not far fetched at all

He could be both, but I agree with Jaidyn, he is either one or the other and I am betting on playable.

 

[Lanog20]

I know it means friend and that is what could make it hard to trademark. It is a simple word. Amiibo on other hand, is a play with the word amigo and... something else.

Amiibo
Ami means friend in French
Aibou means partner in Japanese (People sometimes use "bo" the slang term)
A-Mii-Bo
It can be interpreted in different ways.

 

[ppbto]

The only way I could see being both would be if one were normal Ridley while the other would be Meta-Ridley.

Actually Ridley, Meta-Ridley and Omega-Ridley are the same being. Other M Ridley and Neo-Ridley are a clone of the original Ridley.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

He could be both, but as I agree with Jaidyn, he is either one or the other and I am betting on playable.

Then why did they waste the time hinting at him during the direct portion about boss characters? Why even show anything if he was only gonna be playable and nothing else? They might as well have not shown a damn thing.

 

[Mr.Seven]

Actually Ridley, Meta-Ridley and Omega-Ridley are the same being. Other M Ridley and Neo-Ridley are a clone of the original Ridley.

Ah, I haven't played Metroid in years, so my knowledge on it is really rusty right now.

 

[Epsilon52]

Then why did they waste the time hinting at him during the direct portion about boss characters? Why even show anything if he was only gonna be playable and nothing else? They might as well have not shown a damn thing.

If he didnt, would we be here today? Its called hype. And were all on that train....no safety latch..no brakes...rails could give oput at any moment. But none of us care. Our hype level is too damn high.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

Is the color of the piece of his tail shown in the direct clip consistent with the color of the tail of the version of Ridley that people assume is making an appearance?

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Honestly he looks a bit too small there, but who knows. Its hard to guess anything based on the shadow, but there's no way the shadow is anything close to his actual size, that we can guarantee.

Well, in my opinion, it's really hard to distort the shadow of his tail on the bottom pic. And I doubt it'd get skinnier.

 

[Reila]

Then why did they waste the time hinting at him during the direct portion about boss characters? Why even show anything if he was only gonna be playable and nothing else? They might as well have not shown a damn thing.

Who said he hinted Ridley as a boss character? That is how you are choosing to interpret it. Again, he said other boss characters would make an appearance in Smash 4. Ridley is a boss character. Even if he is playable in Smash, Ridley will always be known as a boss character. He never said or hinted that Ridley would be a boss in said game.

 

[IsmaR]

Actually Ridley, Meta-Ridley and Omega-Ridley are the same being. Other M Ridley and Neo-Ridley are a clone of the original Ridley.

I believe he meant them being apparently separate entities in Smash. Tabuu did "revive" both Ridley and Meta Ridley.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Is the color of the piece of his tail shown in the direct clip consistent with the color of the tail of the version of Ridley that people assume is making an appearance?

Nope.

Other M Ridley's tail is pure bone-white.

Smashley's tail has a red-to-white gradient. Not much, but hey, its something.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

If he didnt, would we be here today? Its called hype. And were all on that train....no safety latch..no brakes...rails could give oput at any moment. But none of us care. Our hype level is too damn high.

Could be false hype though too, he might screw us in the end even more by making us hold out hope. I just dont think we should rule out the possibility of multiple roles for him, i mean weve had giga bowser in melee when normal bowser was playable too.

 

[Mr.Seven]

I believe he meant them being apparently separate entities in Smash. Tabuu did "revive" both Ridley and Meta Ridley.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Also, I'd like to point out something as well:

In Injustice: Gods Among Us, Doomsday is both playable and in the background of the Fortress of Solitude. Even if you're playing as Doomsday in that level, he's still in the background.

 

[Epsilon52]

Is the color of the piece of his tail shown in the direct clip consistent with the color of the tail of the version of Ridley that people assume is making an appearance?

Coloring is very similar. The defining evidence as to which ridley would be the bone tip. That is a trait of Other M Ridley. He is the most recent Ridley...and the ugliest in my opinion.

 

[ppbto]

I believe he meant them being apparently separate entities in Smash. Tabuu did "revive" both Ridley and Meta Ridley.

Just like King K. Rool and his brother Kaptain K. Rool. Smash doesn't follow the canon.

 

[AustarusIV]

Alright; Thank you @Angelglory, for the Pyrosphere texture, you just made my night.

Behold: Ridley's largest possible size.
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Um, I think your previous examples were more accurate than this one, no offense. How could Ridley possibly be shorter than Samus?

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Then why did they waste the time hinting at him during the direct portion about boss characters? Why even show anything if he was only gonna be playable and nothing else? They might as well have not shown a damn thing.

Because many people are expecting him to be a boss (or assert he can only be a boss), as was his previous role in Brawl, so if you want to swerve people about his inclusion and make it even more of a shock when he's seen playable (and as we seen many times before, including multiple times during that direct, Sakurai loves to do that), teasing him in a way that makes it look like he'll be a boss again will achieve that.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Um, I think your previous examples were more accurate than this one, no offense. How could Ridley possibly be shorter than Samus?

He's crouching?

I'Unno, I based the measurements off this brick that Ridley's tail is on because I began to doubt the Pikachu shadow again.

Give me a night to sleep on it: Last time I tried redoing Ridley's size, I accidentally made him Pikachu-sized.

 

[Epsilon52]

This is another theory I tend to go to when discussing the April Direct.

 

[Meandpikachu]

What if Ridley was in Rhythm Heaven...could that be weird...!?

 

[Mr.Seven]

What if Ridley was in Rhythm Heaven...could that be weird...!?View attachment 16365

I probably laughed at that harder than I should have.

 

[AustarusIV]

This is another theory I tend to go to when discussing the April Direct.

That's nice, if only for the fact that it implies that the Gematsu characters aren't the only remaining newcomers.

 

[AndreaAC]

Alright; Thank you @Angelglory, for the Pyrosphere texture, you just made my night.

Behold: Ridley's largest possible size.
View attachment 16358

"You are now a tiny and useless FLY!"

xD I don't know why I thought of this when I saw it....and yeah, that thing is Roidley.

 

[Mr.Seven]

That's nice, if only for the fact that it implies that the Gematsu characters aren't the only remaining newcomers.

Well, Gematsu failed to leak Rosalina as playable. So while I believe that the leaks are true, it doesn't leak everyone.