Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[TKraix]

Tonight?

at 7:00 P.M.
for Europe it's tonight

 

[JohnathanACE]

Well.... There is only one thing we can do now guy's....

Kill ZeRo

Meh, he deserves it for wearing that stupid scarf anyways.

 

[TKraix]

Well.... There is only one thing we can do now guy's....

Kill ZeRo

ZeRo Said: ,,Pre announcements of announcements? Absolutely, actually... yeah. Expect something extremely hype to be announced tomorrow."
That didn't destroy the hipe. This could still relate to Smash Bros

 

[domokl]

Ok ok real talk. Is that picture legit???

 

[Dark Phazon]

OK... This is getting drunk....

Is something sexy happening at 3AM in the morning or not? Because I AM NOT STAYINGUP TO 3AM AGAIN!!

I did for the invitationalbut that was hype wo rthy enough plus I thought Mewtwo would be announced after

 

[SchAlternate]

As is stands now no one should be expecting Ridley anymore anyway, and if we somehow get him then that's wonderful - but convincing yourself he's still playable seems fairly futile as this point.

Really? Drop all hope just because he wasn't shown at E3? That seems a bit too harsh IMO.

 

[Snagrio]

I'm confused, I thought ZeRo's message was a response to something else and not actually hyping something.

 

[Morbi]

Ok ok real talk. Is that picture legit???

Definitely. It is not fake at all, other websites have been trying to refute it for hours.

 

[D-idara]

Meh, he deserves it for wearing that stupid scarf anyways.

Don't mess with Zero's Choice Scarf, that's what made him move so fast with ZS Samus.

 

[N3ON]

Am I correct in the presumption that you are asserting that Ridley is not playable in the game, period? Or did I misconstrue your sentiment, do you perhaps mean that he is not going to be revealed at e3? If you are alluding to the latter, I am in agreement; however, if you are referring to the former, there is no logical base for such a proclamation whatsoever.

No logical base? That's quite the exaggeration. There is a definite logical base in which to assume Ridley will be absent from the playable roster - as many longtime, dedicated Ridley supporters have already acknowledged, however I am merely stating with all the evidence building up against Ridley, to convince oneself, assume, or expect that he will still playable is akin to fighting a losing battle; it might turn around, but chances are it won't - and not coming to terms with that is only going to hurt yourself more in the long run.

Really? Drop all hope just because he wasn't shown at E3? That seems a bit too harsh IMO.

My statement had nothing to do with E3.

 

[Welshy91]

All of you people spouting "OMG RIDL3Y IS GUNNA B ANNOUNCED TODAY CUZ SAKURAI IS UNPREDICTABLE"

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We get it. You think Ridley is going to be announced, fantastic. That doesn't mean you have post that belief every 5 minutes.

 

[Phaazoid]

OK... This is getting drunk....

Is something sexy happening at 3AM in the morning or not? Because I AM NOT STAYINGUP TO 3AM AGAIN!!

I did for the invitationalbut that was hype wo rthy enough plus I thought Mewtwo would be announced after

Don't stay up

imo

Worst case you'll see tomorrow anyways

 

[Morbi]

No logical base? That's quite the exaggeration. There is a definite logical base in which to assume Ridley will be absent from the playable roster - as many longtime, dedicated Ridley supporters have already acknowledged, however I am merely stating with all the evidence building up against Ridley, to convince oneself or assume that he will still playable is akin to fighting a losing battle; it might turn around, but chances are it won't - and not coming to terms with that is only going to hurt yourself more in the long run.

Ah, the ambiguous allusion. I believe that is more evidence based than logic based as there is logic that entirely contradicts that sentiment. However, I suppose I should respect your opinion.

 

[domokl]

No logical base? That's quite the exaggeration. There is a definite logical base in which to assume Ridley will be absent from the playable roster - as many longtime, dedicated Ridley supporters have already acknowledged, however I am merely stating with all the evidence building up against Ridley, to convince oneself or assume that he will still playable is akin to fighting a losing battle; it might turn around, but chances are it won't - and not coming to terms with that is only going to hurt yourself more in the long run.


My statement had nothing to do with E3.

If this is about the gematsu leak may I direct you to the 51 character thread.

 

[GraveJoker]

Definitely. It is not fake at all, other websites have been trying to refute it for hours.

What picture?

 

[Phaazoid]

If this is about the gematsu leak may I direct you to the 51 character thread.

Do you mean the thread that thinks there's going to be 51 characters because of the size of the ui?

that's one of the few threads stupider than this one right now

 

[Xzsmmc]

ZeRo Said: ,,Pre announcements of announcements? Absolutely, actually... yeah. Expect something extremely hype to be announced tomorrow."
That didn't destroy the hipe. This could still relate to Smash Bros

I expect to see a Majora's Mask remake. He could be referring to that.

 

[majorasmaskfan]

Well after e3 am pretty sure nintendo hates the metriod franchise now so I am assuming a dead franchise wont get a newcomer. well the hype train is dead for me, i guess il play smash 4 when i get a wii u at the end of this generation. Hopefully Nintendo will change for the better when smash 5 starts development.

 

[Morbi]

Do you mean the thread that thinks there's going to be 51 characters because of the size of the ui?

that's one of the few threads stupider than this one right now

Not necessarily just that thread; the character selection screen cannot be discerned based on a demo (objectively speaking). As we obviously do not have the final format, we do not know the scaling, etc. So ANY thread claiming to know the number of slots is incompetent.

 

[WayfaringElf]

All of you people spouting "OMG RIDL3Y IS GUNNA B ANNOUNCED TODAY CUZ SAKURAI IS UNPREDICTABLE"

We get it. You think Ridley is going to be announced, fantastic. That doesn't mean you have post that belief every 5 minutes.

Ridley's gonna be announced.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Poor Little Mac doesn't stand a chance.

Unless it's Stage Hazardly where he just hovers awhile for no reason constantly while Mac punches the **** out of him. sadface

And I definitely see where N3on's coming from. Have pretty much already gotten over the initial disappointment anyway which was before even E3. Am just here for the ride regarding whatever happens or gets discussed here next.

Well after e3 am pretty sure nintendo hates the metriod franchise now so I am assuming a dead franchise wont get a newcomer. well the hype train is dead for me, i guess il play smash 4 when i get a wii u at the end of this generation. Hopefully Nintendo will change for the better when smash 5 starts development.

Hates the Metroid franchise? More like they're just too unsure of what to do with it after Other M's failure. But yeah, little doubt it'll still be in limbo like Star Fox was for quite awhile.

 

[SchAlternate]

All of you people spouting "OMG RIDL3Y IS GUNNA B ANNOUNCED TODAY CUZ SAKURAI IS UNPREDICTABLE"

[image gonna get removed because swear]

We get it. You think Ridley is going to be announced, fantastic. That doesn't mean you have post that belief every 5 minutes.

Er... lest you want to get a warning, I suggest you to change that image, quickly.

 

[Phaazoid]

Not necessarily just that thread; the character selection screen cannot be discerned based on a demo (objectively speaking). As we obviously do not have the final format, we do not know the scaling, etc. So ANY thread claiming to know the number of slots is incompetent.

mmhmm. Wasn't trying to insult any specific boardgoers. those kinds of arguments in general are just ridiculous.

However the discussion in this thread as of late hasn't been inspiring. I wish I wasn't stuck at work, lol.

 

[Morbi]

mmhmm. Wasn't trying to insult any specific boardgoers. those kinds of arguments in general are just ridiculous.

However the discussion in this thread as of late hasn't been inspiring. I wish I wasn't stuck at work, lol.

Do not worry, that was not necessarily directed at you. I just felt like illuminating that notion because almost everyone is entirely convinced that we will get 47 characters (and random button) based on the current UI.

Which obviously contradicts Ridley's inclusion. Something I do not find to be feasible.

 

[Welshy91]

Er... lest you want to get a warning, I suggest you to change that image, quickly.

It would be worth the warning if it will shut people up.

 

[JaidynReiman]

So, honestly, that Ridley in the Little Mac screenshot looks like he's only about double the height of Little Mac. If we get Ridley as a stage boss and he's that small, that's pretty ridiculous.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

All of you people spouting "OMG RIDL3Y IS GUNNA B ANNOUNCED TODAY CUZ SAKURAI IS UNPREDICTABLE"

CENSORED

We get it. You think Ridley is going to be announced, fantastic. That doesn't mean you have post that belief every 5 minutes.

Dude change the picture i believe there is a rule about cussing here on smashboards you need to bleep the bad words.

 

[SchAlternate]

It would be worth the warning if it will shut people up.

The image will be removed anyway, so it'd be almost pointless.

 

[Snagrio]

It would be worth the warning if it will shut people up.

Or you could just, you know, go to a different thread if it's bothering you that much.

 

[Morbi]

It would be worth the warning if it will shut people up.

Guess what? I believe that Ridley is going to be announced today based on the merit that Sakurai is unpredictable.

 

[FreeFallUp]

Vet reveals are possible, I mean it is pretty weird that not a single vet was shown at E3 (even Game & Watch wasn't technically confirmed, just hinted at) but I don't know about a newcomer at this point (especially since Sakurai isn't there to make the announcement anymore).

Um, maybe I shouldn't have been as ambiguous. What I meant was that I as far as I know, there has been nothing official on further announcements, and if there are more, and they occur in a trailer, only then is it more likely another newcomer will come.

 

[N3ON]

If this is about the gematsu leak may I direct you to the 51 character thread.

....you mean the thing in which the Metroid series placement can be swapped out on that roster for Kirby or SF or any series with three characters? The creator moved many series out of order, that roster is clearly just a prediction, not a fact.

Ah, the ambiguous allusion. I believe that is more evidence based than logic based as there is logic that entirely contradicts that sentiment. However, I suppose I should respect your opinion.

Evidence is concrete while logic is theoretical. There is logic to support dozens of characters that didn't and won't end up playable.

 

[Welshy91]

Guess what? I believe that Ridley is going to be announced today based on the merit that Sakurai is unpredictable.

Of course you would, MorbidOptimism.

The image will be removed anyway, so it'd be almost pointless.

But it'll be amusing while it lasts.

Or you could just, you know, go to a different thread if it's bothering you that much.

But there is worthwhile information being exchanged between the #ridley@e3totesmcgotes posts.

 

[Morbi]

....you mean the thing in which the Metroid series placement can be swapped out on that roster for Kirby or SF or any series with three characters? The creator moved many series out of order, that roster is clearly just a prediction, not a fact.


Evidence is concrete while logic is theoretical. There is logic to support dozens of characters that didn't and won't end up playable.

I agree with this sentiment, that is the inherent problem with supporting Ridley. However, I am an advocate of logical reasoning. If the evidence was definitive, I would have precisely the same perspective as you. I am not necessarily asserting that your reasoning is fallacious. As you stated, evidence is concrete. Detractors have that in their favor. But that is just one piece of evidence, it will take much more than that to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[JaidynReiman]

So I checked out that Ridley pick again and he actually looks quite badass. He appears to be a cross between Other M (bulky body) and more classic Ridley. It honestly does look legit, the question is just up to whether or not Ridley is playable. We'll have to see.

 

[FreeFallUp]

So I checked out that Ridley pick again and he actually looks quite badass. He appears to be a cross between Other M (bulky body) and more classic Ridley. It honestly does look legit, the question is just up to whether or not Ridley is playable. We'll have to see.

Ridley pic?!? What mystical page of magic and fun is this on?!? Seriously, I've been gone for about ten pages and have no idea what's going on.

 

[Morbi]

Ridley pick?!? What mystical page of magic and fun is this on?!? Seriously, I've been gone for about ten pages and have no idea what's going on.

@ Dark Phazon posted it on the last page, just control-F his username.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Ridley pick?!? What mystical page of magic and fun is this on?!? Seriously, I've been gone for about ten pages and have no idea what's going on.

The previous page.

I was joking iit's going to be this

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Thar we go. (Ridley's largest size, BTW)

Blurry pictures proving Ridley's existence? I feel like a Bigfoot hunter.

Definitely. It is not fake at all, other websites have been trying to refute it for hours.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Just going to point out that the Little Mac model in that picture is his Brawl model. You can tell from the hair.

 

[N3ON]

I agree with this sentiment, that is the inherent problem with supporting Ridley. However, I am an advocate of logical reasoning. If the evidence was definitive, I would have precisely the same perspective as you. I am not necessarily asserting that your reasoning is fallacious. As you stated, evidence is concrete. Detractors have that in their favor. But that is just one piece of evidence, it will take much more than that to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt.

I bet logical reasoning didn't help many predict WFT, Rosalina, Villager (cause of Sakurai), Greninja, probably Chorus Kids, etc. while Ridley, K. Rool, Takamaru, Dixie, Mewtwo, Toad, etc. (who logically have quite a bit in their favour) will probably be sitting on the sidelines. Not counting possibilities as DLC obv.

Logic is all fine and good, but it's not the be-all-and-end-all of speculation, and when evidence and precedent comes along to shake that logic, holding on even more tight to it is what turns out to be illogical. I'm not saying Ridley as an inclusion wasn't logical, but at this point there's been enough to knock him down a few pegs into "pretty unlikely" territory, and people who want to act as if that never happened are in for a rude yet predictable awakening once the full roster is out.