Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Dark Phazon]

Such tricking.

Much gullible.

Very trolling.

Wow.

Its Bull* isnt it.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I still have a feeling they're hyping up Ridley for *something*.

 

[majora_787]

BTW, did people estimate the size of Ridley's shadow? I asked earlier, but nobody gave a response.

From looking at that size comparison earlier, I would be surprised if it were actually accurate.

Yes. Comparing his shadow to the shadows of Bowser and Pikachu as well as his proportions from Other M, Ridley isn't much bigger than Bowser. Bigger than Bowser, probably. But definitely not "unplayably larger".

 

[AustarusIV]

Yes. Comparing his shadow to the shadows of Bowser and Pikachu as well as his proportions from Other M, Ridley isn't much bigger than Bowser. Bigger than Bowser, probably. But definitely not "unplayably larger".

Humph. And if Ridley is a boss and nothing more than that, then I think we have a legitimate grievance on our hands.

It's like some other people have said long ago, if Ridley is at the right size and proportions to be a playable character and yet is only a stage hazard, then a lot of fans should be really pissed about that.

I personally don't know what to say anymore, but I was planning on getting the 3DS version only anyway. It strikes me as odd to see the main antagonist of Metroid be regulated to a mere stage element, while the two arc villains (Mother Brain, Dark Samus) are able to appear on all the stages as assist characters. It would be like having Bowser appear only on the Bowser's Castle stage (for Wii U only) as a boss, but Tatanga and Wart are Assist characters that can be seen on both versions of the game.

 

[Xigger]

The OP post is too condescending. And the pictures in Size Comparisons by AngelGlory are broken. I was hoping to see some updated, relevant information about all this shadow biz-niz.

Yes. Comparing his shadow to the shadows of Bowser and Pikachu as well as his proportions from Other M, Ridley isn't much bigger than Bowser. Bigger than Bowser, probably. But definitely not "unplayably larger".

I'm guessing that these comparisons and analysis exist somewhere, but where could I find those, if not in the Ridley support thread, without searching 200+ pages?

(inb4 big characters 4 smash)

 

[Morbi]

Yes. Comparing his shadow to the shadows of Bowser and Pikachu as well as his proportions from Other M, Ridley isn't much bigger than Bowser. Bigger than Bowser, probably. But definitely not "unplayably larger".

I wonder how stage hazard Ridley picks up Bowser... (hint hint).

 

[majora_787]

Humph. And if Ridley is a boss and nothing more than that, then I think we have a legitimate grievance on our hands.

It's like some other people have said long ago, if Ridley is at the right size and proportions to be a playable character and yet is only a stage hazard, then a lot of fans should be really pissed about that.

I personally don't know what to say anymore, but I was planning on getting the 3DS version only anyway. It strikes me as odd to see the main antagonist of Metroid be regulated to a mere stage element, while the two arc villains (Mother Brain, Dark Samus) are able to appear on all the stages as assist characters. It would be like having Bowser appear only on the Bowser's Castle stage (for Wii U only) as a boss, but Tatanga and Wart are Assist characters that can be seen on both versions of the game.

I've been doing devil's advocate on this before. It's possible that even though there is most likely a non-Ridley stage hazard considering the FD Pyrosphere, Ridley could be smaller in size so he isn't as intrusive as he could be so players can... uh. Deal with a playable character-sized boss and lava hazards.

Super.

 

[Snagrio]

June 10th will be a day of grandest celebration, or depression.

 

[M15t3R E]

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less concerned as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

 

[Xigger]

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less concerned as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

See? It's hard to stay up on current information. There's so much, but all buried in hundres of hundreds of posts, known only by those who waste hours reading it all.

In short, no, no they aren't.

 

[ultimatekoopa]

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less concerned as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

This has already been covered like 100 pages ago

 

[Deleted member]

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less concerned as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

 

[SchAlternate]

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less concerned as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

Uh... which video?

 

[Anomilus]

The OP post is too condescending. And the pictures in Size Comparisons by AngelGlory are broken. I was hoping to see some updated, relevant information about all this shadow biz-niz.



I'm guessing that these comparisons and analysis exist somewhere, but where could I find those, if not in the Ridley support thread, without searching 200+ pages?

(inb4 big characters 4 smash)

Not all that concerned about the condescending nature of the OP, but otherwise you're totally right, and it's something I've thought about but have yet to properly bring up. And I should have. And so should the lot of us.

That's the trouble with having one guy who owns the OP and honestly doesn't seem all that concerned about its content. Just... how it is at the time.

...

This honestly sounds up my alley: Doing the mundane work and harvesting all the information and data obtained from the last couple hundred pages. Maybe as early as January? I can't and have no desire to form a new and improved OP, but perhaps if the incentive to improve it is there, I can assist with the task of cataloging what's been discussed and stated and discovered and created.

 

[Deleted member]

Everyone remembers Sakurai's quote regarding Ridley's absence in Brawl

I think that would probably be impossible. [laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that have been all right? *laughs*

So, let's answer him, would it have been all right for him being slow?

 

[BKupa666]

Everyone remembers Sakurai's quote regarding Ridley's absence in Brawl

So, let's answer him, would it have been all right for him being slow?

To borrow a response...

"Because Ganondorf is just a goddamn marathon runner."

 

[AndreaAC]

Everyone remembers Sakurai's quote regarding Ridley's absence in Brawl

So, let's answer him, would it have been all right for him being slow?

It wouldn't matter....as long as he is playable

 

[OblivionWolf]

Everyone remembers Sakurai's quote regarding Ridley's absence in Brawl

So, let's answer him, would it have been all right for him being slow?

Actually in the direct his shadow didn't fly much faster then Pikachu's walking speed. I'd say he is pretty slow.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually in the direct his shadow didn't fly much faster then Pikachu's walking speed. I'd say he is pretty slow.

Not asking if heis slow, I'm asking if it's okay for him being slow

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Honestly that Sakurai quote is so worthless. He says it's pretty impossible to add Ridley. Then he says it's not impossible if they try hard enough. Then he asks us if it's ok if Ridley turned out slow.

He basically said nothing.

 

[OblivionWolf]

Not asking if heis slow, I'm asking if it's okay for him being slow

I know what you were asking. I'm just saying we better like that he is slow....Cuz he is slow in the direct. lol

I wouldn't mind a slow Ridley to answer your question.

 

[majora_787]

I know what you were asking. I'm just saying we better like that he is slow....Cuz he is slow in the direct. lol

I wouldn't mind a slow Ridley to answer your question.

The issue comes when we have a Ridley that is slow and small. A boss that is slow, small, doesn't act like an AI opponent, and is a boss on a stage that has a lava hazard? That's not the greatest combination of things ever.

 

[OblivionWolf]

The issue comes when we have a Ridley that is slow and small. A boss that is slow, small, doesn't act like an AI opponent, and is a boss on a stage that has a lava hazard? That's not the greatest combination of things ever.

Yeah pretty much every character will give Ridley the Sonic treatment. "Your too slow!"

Even DK and Bowser will be running laps around that "hazard".

 

[The King of Skulls]

Personally, Ridley could move at a snail's pace and I'd still play him. He's freaking Ridley. Unless you pull a Ganondorf and give him a move set that doesn't even make sense, it would be hard to screw him up.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Personally, Ridley could move at a snail's pace and I'd still play him. He's freaking Ridley. Unless you pull a Ganondorf and give him a move set that doesn't even make sense, it would be hard to screw him up.

And then it turns out he's following Pikachu for more than one reason.

 

[Deleted member]

And then it turns out he's following Pikachu for more than one reason.

If Ridley is confirmed, the first thing I'm going to do when the game comes out is unlock him and make a Ridley X Samus and Pikachu match

 

[majora_787]

Personally, Ridley could move at a snail's pace and I'd still play him. He's freaking Ridley. Unless you pull a Ganondorf and give him a move set that doesn't even make sense, it would be hard to screw him up.

Him being a slow character isn't a problem. But issue is, if he is a boss and moves at Pikachu's mid-walk speed, that's... really not a good sign. If he's a character, then it's totally understandable that he could move slowly.

 

[The King of Skulls]

Him being a slow character isn't a problem. But issue is, if he is a boss and moves at Pikachu's mid-walk speed, that's... really not a good sign. If he's a character, then it's totally understandable that he could move slowly.

Of course! If Ridley was as slow as Pikachu midflight, then that would be quite depressing, especially since canonically, he moves much faster.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ok so what does ridleys walk speed have to do with proof that hes playable all i got is all of the boss in brawl move faster than the playable (most of time when changing positions)

Or b hes slower than brawls ridley(s)

 

[Groose]

And then it turns out he's following Pikachu for more than one reason.

Don't tell me... Ridley has joined Team Rocket?

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Ok so what does ridleys walk speed have to do with proof that hes playable all i got is all of the boss in brawl move faster than the playable (most of time when changing positions)

Or b hes slower than brawls ridley(s)

Nothing. But his slow flight speed doesn`t fits a boss character or just Ridley. This makes it kinda suspicious. And few other facts.

Everyone remembers Sakurai's quote regarding Ridley's absence in Brawl

So, let's answer him, would it have been all right for him being slow?

Yes. I like to play as Bowser in Brawl and he is just a little bit faster than Exdeath i mentioned when walking and isn`t useless just because he is slow since he has strong attacks. So, slow Ridley is still gonna be Ridley i want. Unless its Boss Ridley.

Don't tell me... Ridley has joined Team Rocket?

No, i think he meant something else...for same reasons as Charizard from that pic...now i just can`t unsee what i imagined...we should avoid thinking about this in this way...right?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Nothing. But his slow flight speed doesn`t fits a boss character or just Ridley. This makes it kinda suspicious. And few other facts.

Yes. I like to play as Bowser in Brawl and he is just a little bit faster than Exdeath i mentioned when walking and isn`t useless just because he is slow since he has strong attacks. So, slow Ridley is still gonna be Ridley i want. Unless its Boss Ridley.

For why

You know kind of think of it atleast 1 or more in 95% of all games (not just smash bros) does move faster than the playable characters

And in other m ridley is faster than samus in it and she is running when ridley is moving when ridley is craling fast

And pikachu and ridley were almost as fast in the footage and ridleys even faster than crawling ridley in other m and thats still way faster than samus in other m when she is running

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Late night with a paper I don't want to work on, Hearthstone open, Ridley on the mind, and terrible MSPaint skills. May as well illustrate how I think Saurai feels about the Ridley situation he's caused.

I'm sorry.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Late night with a paper I don't want to work on, Hearthstone open, Ridley on the mind, and terrible MSPaint skills. May as well illustrate how I think Saurai feels about the Ridley situation he's caused.

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I'm sorry.

A card that brings true statement the only people still left on hes still could be playable which is quite a few which agree with this

Pe enjoy your time at smashboards

 

[BaganSmashBros]

For why

You know kind of think of it atleast 1 or more in 95% of all games (not just smash bros) does move faster than the playable characters

And in other m ridley is faster than samus in it and she is running when ridley is moving when ridley is craling fast

And pikachu and ridley were almost as fast in the footage and ridleys even faster than crawling ridley in other m and thats still way faster than samus in other m when she is running

Do you mean he is fast or that he is as fast as walking Pikachu? I understood only that Ridley is crawling really fast and that there is at least 1 boss or something that moves faster than playable characters.

Late night with a paper I don't want to work on, Hearthstone open, Ridley on the mind, and terrible MSPaint skills. May as well illustrate how I think Saurai feels about the Ridley situation he's caused.

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I'm sorry.

Hm...where and how did you found this rare card?

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Hm...where and how did you found this rare card?

Took a trip to Value Town and did some things I'm not proud of.

 

[Deleted member]

Late night with a paper I don't want to work on, Hearthstone open, Ridley on the mind, and terrible MSPaint skills. May as well illustrate how I think Saurai feels about the Ridley situation he's caused.

View attachment 13474

I'm sorry.

I was just able to break free from my Hearthstone addiction and then comes this image that makes me want to play it again.
I hate you.

 

[M15t3R E]

Click here for the video I was talking about in the following comment...

So at the risk of bursting everyone's bubble, isn't Ridley more or less confirmed as a boss character in the next game?
This video is why I say that. View 7:20 - 7:29.

 

[SchAlternate]

Click here for the video I was talking about in the following comment...

Oh, THAT was the video you were talking about!

...

Dude, just what the hell did you thought we were arguing about for the last hundred pages? Pumpkins?

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Dude, just what the hell did you thought we were arguing about for the last hundred pages? Pumpkins?

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anyway this madness sakurai has put us through is too much. If hes just a boss reveal him already, why the hell are you hiding him when if hes nothing more than that he should be done, and we would have at least calmed down some since that direct in time for e3.

All shadows and no ridley makes me...something something...