Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Gingerbread Man]

Ridley's final smash should swap him with his more fluffy form to annoy people who don't want to change characters.

 

[Dark Phazon]

peepz need to stop bringing up that nasty little demon chicken..hate that thing..

 

[Deleted member]

peepz need to stop bringing up that nasty little demon chicken..hate that thing..

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Why not Phazon? He's cuter unlike his Ear ******, ferocious dragon form.

 

[Deleted member]

So. freaking. ADORABLE.
I JUST WANT TO HUG THE LITTLE DEVIL.

EDIT: Really, Smashboards? ANY word that has the short name for Richard is censored because of its use as a slang term for penis, which is NOT censored?
So I can't even say "little dickens" like in the ol' days as an endearing take on "little devil"?

 

[Opossum]

Censorship...it sucks. Especially for **** Van **** and the like.

But yeah, Dark Phazon's usually on an anti-Little Birdie tirade. But look at him! Slap some sharp teeth on a Furby and give it Flamingo legs and you get this adorable little slaughterhouse!

 

[Bananija]

Oh! Little Birdie! Why did you go play in your vomit?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Oh! Little Birdie! Why did you go play in your vomit?

Sweetie. I'm afraid that's honey.



Would anyone actually be satisfied if that 3-stage Ridley rumor was true?

 

[FalKoopa]

Would anyone actually be satisfied if that 3-stage Ridley rumor was true?

Haven't heard of it. Link to it?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Haven't heard of it. Link to it?

I don't have a link, but it's an old rumor that said that Ridley would start off as Little Birdy, evolve into his adolescent form and then finally turn into the Ridley we all know and love.

 

[FalKoopa]

I googled it.
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/n...mors-ghirahim-and-ridley-playable-nintendo-di

 

[Frostwraith]

How cute! :3

I've heard of that rumor a while ago... like other rumors, I don't buy it.

 

[Knight Dude]

I still think Ridley should be included SSB4. Re-sizing him shouln't be that much of a problem. Chances of him getting in are fairly decent if you ask me. Oh, and for some reason, I've kinda pictured him to some kind of glass cannon type of character. Dealing good damage, but he can't take too much himself. Don't know why I can see that happening though.

 

[Dark Phazon]

If he doesnt get in as playable he is no doubt forbidden.

Because its not like Sakurai had no idea this time how much demand and support there is for him.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I definitely enjoyed the whole gremlins metamorphosis aspect they added to ridley, nothing better than an adorable creature that turns into a monster.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I actually like Little Birdie. I would mind if he showed up somehow.

 

[ChronoBound]

We are now only three months away until a possible Ridley confirmation.

To think at this time seven years ago (my how time flies), I pretty much had the same expectations (I was expecting Ridley to be among the first newcomers confirmed due to how popularly requested he was and due to the massive resurrection the Metroid series had). I was pretty disappointed that Zero Suit Samus got selected as the Metroid newcomer instead.

However, some of the other characters that I was anticipating and really wanted for the unveil trailer (Wario, Pit, Meta Knight), also got confirmed by the trailer, so I was not let down by the Brawl unveil (I was actually very hyped), and I pretty much thought Ridley would definitely be in the game.

At this point every Nintendo character that I wanted in Smash Bros. has already gotten in, Ridley, the one character I have wanted the most, is the only remaining one left (I do want Mega Man, Mewtwo, and Roy though).

Its pretty much Ridley alone that I have waited all these years since Brawl's release and spent so much time anticipating a game that was not even properly announced.

Its Ridley's time to shine now! There is less than a handful of Nintendo characters left that are as popularly requested as Ridley is, so I am feeling really good about the trailer.

I am really hoping and crossing my fingers that we get Ridley this time. I have wanted Ridley in for as long as there has been a Smash Bros. series basically. He has been my single-most wanted newcomer for Smash Bros. ever since I first saw the Melee unveil in May 2001. The confirmation of Ridley will be the end of an era for me.

A childhood dream... finally realized.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm gone for a few pages and people are gonna go all Little Birdie now?? Why you so unoriginal Smashboards? Why?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

New avatar in honor of the guy.

I've been thinking... Do you think Ridley's recovery could be like Pit's? I mean it's the only recovery I can think of for him.

 

[Frostwraith]

New avatar in honor of the guy.

I've been thinking... Do you think Ridley's recovery could be like Pit's? I mean it's the only recovery I can think of for him.

It's the one that makes more sense, considering he can fly, right?

Your new avatar is funny.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

It's the one that makes more sense, considering he can fly, right?

Your new avatar is funny.

Well it's either that or some kind of flip like Shuttle Loop.

And thank ye kindly sir.

 

[Bananija]

This avatar is just ... amazing

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Pssst...(Whisper Sound)

Hey Ridley supporters...There is an Ashley thread now

http://smashboards.com/threads/“eve...”-ashley-support-thread.335180/#post-15405185

Ya know ya wanna. C'mon.

 

[Phaazoid]

Must... resist...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Would you guys keep playing as Samus if Ridley became playable?

 

[Oasis_S]

I'm curious why you're asking that question, AND ALSO I don't even play as Samus. Or at least, not often.

 

[FalKoopa]

Would you guys keep playing as Samus if Ridley became playable?

That's a strange question. lol

To answer it: it depends on the player. If he is comfortable with the playstyle, he can switch. If not, then he won't.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Would you guys keep playing as Samus if Ridley became playable?

I almost never play as Samus lol
To be fair I try to use the whole roster since I don't play competitevely since years. I like to change, I don't have mains.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I used Samus in Melee, but I thought she kind of sucked in Brawl.

I used Dedede though because he's just awesome

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I used Samus in Melee, but I thought she kind of sucked in Brawl.

I used Dedede though because he's just awesome

Same here. Was disappointment in how worfed she was in the game. Hopefully the same thing won't happen to Ridley (if he were to be in Sm4sh).

 

[Deleted member]

Now that I found that Giga Bowser was planned as a hidden unlockable for Melee (or at least evidence that supports it), I have no doubts Ridley can be made to work, even if he's a large character.
Especially if he's given the same kind of properties as Melee G-Bowser; including an immunity to grabs.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Now that I found that Giga Bowser was planned as a hidden unlockable for Melee (or at least evidence that supports it), I have no doubts Ridley can be made to work, even if he's a large character.
Especially if he's given the same kind of properties as Melee G-Bowser; including an immunity to grabs.

If you take that evidence for true it's actually the opposite, the fact that Giga Bowser was scrapped off is proof that a big character can't work. But I don't really think Giga Bowser was meant to be in Melee at all. Probably he served as beta testing or something like that, since he is a different model/character which works as a normal one in some circumstance.
Through glitches even Master Hand is playable, that doesn't mean he was meant to be it.

 

[Deleted member]

That is no proof at all that it works the opposite because we don't know the reason it was scrapped.
For all we know, it could have been Sakurai's plan to have Giga Bowser as a secret character outside Japan to make up for his plan to remove Marth and Roy for the international releases, and was scrapped when Marth and Roy proved to be worth their stay.
It could be that he didn't want to make a completely Smash original character playable in the long run.
It could very well be that he thought twice of making a boss into a character like other games did at the time.
WE. DON'T. KNOW.

However, the point still stands that Giga Bowser could have ended up being a secret unlockable.
The evidence is there, as I posted in the character discussion thread:

UNLIKE the other non-playable characters, Giga Bowser actually has a character name for selection (G-Bowser). Selecting the character he replaces with the code (in this case, Jigglypuff) even has his unused announcer call being used (and it is the correct language, unlike the Sound Test which strangely has "Giga Koopa" when set to English, and "Giga Bowser" when set to Japanese). Also, when selected, the character he replaces has their CSS icon replaced with a question mark (presumably a placeholder for G.B.'s CSS icon since he doesn't have one of his own)
No other unplayable character has such a code to replace another on the CSS.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Exactly dude, we don't know, so it's really pointless using it as an argument. I was just saying that we can see the thing both ways.
And by the way, a character big as Giga Bowser wouldn't work well at all. Just see how goofy are giga-characters in special event like the one with the big Yoshi in Melee. Sometimes they die even if they're still half way in the stage lol.

That and also Giga Bowser as a character by itself would be particularly stupid. I didn't even like him to be Bowser's final smash. I mean Koopa Clown Car anyone? That's not the point anyway.

 

[Deleted member]

It isn't pointless.
While Giga Bowser being an unlockable character was scrapped, he's still in the game. And you know what else? He works fine as a playable character just the way he is.
I should know; I've friggen played as him so much with my old Action Replay that he'd be considered my main if he wasn't hacked.

He's not as "goofy" as you make him out to be. He has his weaknesses, such as being a big target (very big target) and being rather cumbersome to move and attack with, but it serves as a counter to his strengths, finding balance.

 

[Bowserlick]

Ridley having an immunity to grabs (except for some heavyweights) and high stun resistance that decrease as percentage scales up can make sense. I still do not think he should be GigaBowser sized. Perhaps his wings and tails only count as hittable targets when used as an attack. Otherwise the tail and wings are just lightly moved to the side.

 

[Vintage Creep]

By goofy I didn't meant only his moveset. He would just seem out of place. Do you imagine Giga Bowser playing in Big Blue? He would be half inside the Falcon Flyer probably. Maybe if the game is redone completely, I don't know.
Still I don't understand how Giga Bowser alleged playability in Melee helps Ridley's cause.

 

[AEMehr]

By goofy I didn't meant only his moveset. He would just seem out of place. Do you imagine Giga Bowser playing in Big Blue? He would be half inside the Falcon Flyer probably. Maybe if the game is redone completely, I don't know.
Still I don't understand how Giga Bowser alleged playability in Melee helps Ridley's cause.

Because they considered making such a large character to be normally playable. Ridley is around half of Giga Bowser's size, therefor they should be able to find working with Ridley easy (regardless of his size, if they were going to go ahead and add Giga Bowser. Who is much larger than the majority of the stages in Melee).

 

[Bowserlick]

I think the general problem with Ridley is not his "size" but rather his lanky structure. His limbs and wings and tail are all over the place. Charizard on the other hand is stout with smaller limbs, so he solves this hitbox issue.

I say, Ridley's tail and wings should not count as hitboxes that register damage taken or knockback when hit. They only are able to be hit when they are used in attacks. That way only his body, head, and neck register real hits. If he walks by curving his neck into an S, his positioning further solves lank issues.

 

[Deleted member]

Giga Bowser's limbs are all over the place too. The only difference is mainly that he doesn't have wings, and instead has a huge spiked shell.
(And no, I'm not being a smartass; check G-Bowser's limbs compared to Bowser. He's got long arms and legs in comparison. And tail too, though that's not as comparable to Ridley.)

EDIT: Also, Giga Bowser is notably far smaller in Melee than Brawl.
That's why I keep using Melee Giga Bowser as the reference point.