Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[silver_blade001]

AndreaAC I thought of another picture you could do, how about one of the cute Ridleys that you have done with say a small Pikachu doll and behind him is a large and scary shadow, like the one that we saw on the direct. I think that could be a good one.

 

[Morbi]

It just seems odd that Sakurai would troll and only show a shadow. If he was really going to reveal Ridley as a boss he would have shown his entire figure.

Exactly; or if he didn't want to allude to Ridley at all, he wouldn't have. Obviously the shadow was to incite discussion and instill uncertainty (which obviously worked).

 

[OblivionWolf]

Those are great for comparison; I didn't notice such a discrepancy that should have been overt.

Yeah I'm pretty obsessed with getting Ridley in.....I look as deep as I can into these pics. I know I'm not the first one to say this but nobody wants Ridley in as bad as me.

 

[AndreaAC]

You know, I've been thinking that if Ridley is playable, he will probably be given an entirely new design for Smash 4. The reason I think this is because Zero Suit Samus was given a new design not based on any previous games she was in. When Sakurai mentioned that suited Samus was mostly based on her Other M design (right here in this video) I assumed Zero Suit Samus would also be mostly based off her Other M design. (I was 100% positive ZSS was returning.) This assumption disappointed me because I did not like her character model in that game. ( Other M < Brawl ) But now that we've seen her design for the upcoming game, it's much better than both Other M and Brawl IMO.

My point about Ridley is that if he is playable, he might be given the same treatment. His character design might not be anything like what's in Other M, Super Metroid or any other Metroid game. Other M Ridley would be ugly as hell when contrasted with other characters in such a bright and colorful game as Smash. Super Metroid Ridley, while being the most preferred design among supporters it seems (and I would concur if he was strictly based on an original design), seems to be kind of lanky. So I'd be willing to bet that Ridley will get a makeover. If confirmed to be playable (which I very much believe there is a significant chance of), it will be interesting to see how he is designed.

I really hope they can come up with a good design that is likeable...i wish they got based more on his previous designs rather than the clone...i mean, i really want Ridley in, but the way he looks could affect me, because even if im happy that he is in....if he comes out with a bad design or looks like Other M Ridley...i can turn out hating him.....at least for a while until i get used to the design and after killing it hundreds of times out of pure rage when i get the game....

@silver_blade001 Awww...i would LOVE to draw that!

 

[Keeshu]

You know, I've been thinking that if Ridley is playable, he will probably be given an entirely new design for Smash 4. The reason I think this is because Zero Suit Samus was given a new design not based on any previous games she was in. When Sakurai mentioned that suited Samus was mostly based on her Other M design (right here in this video) I assumed Zero Suit Samus would also be mostly based off her Other M design. (I was 100% positive ZSS was returning.) This assumption disappointed me because I did not like her character model in that game. ( Other M < Brawl ) But now that we've seen her design for the upcoming game, it's much better than both Other M and Brawl IMO.

My point about Ridley is that if he is playable, he might be given the same treatment. His character design might not be anything like what's in Other M, Super Metroid or any other Metroid game. Other M Ridley would be ugly as hell when contrasted with other characters in such a bright and colorful game as Smash. Super Metroid Ridley, while being the most preferred design among supporters it seems (and I would concur if he was strictly based on an original design), seems to be kind of lanky. So I'd be willing to bet that Ridley will get a makeover. If confirmed to be playable (which I very much believe there is a significant chance of), it will be interesting to see how he is designed.

I doubt he'll get a re-design, just looking at his shadow for a while it's obviously Other M Ridley.
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The tip of the tail is obvious hint. He has the bulky arms+legs. Closer look at the shadow reveals that he has the spikes, and that the tip of his "beak" gets thin at the end and tapers off just like it did in Other M.
Of course, they could have some small details that might make Other M Ridley not look terrible, we'll just have to see.

 

[OblivionWolf]

I doubt he'll get a re-design, just looking at his shadow for a while it's obviously Other M Ridley.
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The tip of the tail is obvious hint. He has the bulky arms+legs. Closer look at the shadow reveals that he has the spikes, and that the tip of his "beak" gets thin at the end and tapers off just like it did in Other M.
Of course, they could have some small details that might make Other M Ridley not look terrible, we'll just have to see.

One thing that can said for sure this Ridley clearly hasn't been taking as much steroids. He is noticeable thinner then Other M Ridley.

 

[SchAlternate]

Then Clone Ridley comes back as Neo Ridley and scares the crap out of OG Ridley because of being much bigger.

And louder.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still on the "he's a boss" side of speculation (especially since the shadow was brought up in context of stage bosses), but there could be a minute chance that he can be both.

That you have to fight him on the Pyrosphere as a boss in order to unlock him as a character.
After all, there are two kinds of bosses in Smash Bros.;
a) the limited movement, health-based boss such as Master Hand and the bosses from SSE (which Yellow Devil is shown to be)
b) the "character" bosses that are fought just like regular characters are, but have some sort of advantage such as Metal Mario and Giga Bowser.

If Ridley is the latter, he still could be playable regardless of the role.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I'm still on the "he's a boss" side of speculation (especially since the shadow was brought up in context of stage bosses), but there could be a minute chance that he can be both.

That you have to fight him on the Pyrosphere as a boss in order to unlock him as a character.
After all, there are two kinds of bosses in Smash Bros.;
a) the limited movement, health-based boss such as Master Hand and the bosses from SSE (which Yellow Devil is shown to be)
b) the "character" bosses that are fought just like regular characters are, but have some sort of advantage such as Metal Mario and Giga Bowser.

If Ridley is the latter, he still could be playable regardless of the role.

Hm...I'm thinking that's a bit of a stretch. Would Ridley still appear as a boss after being unlocked? And we don't even know if that sort of boss would appear on stages or not...

 

[OblivionWolf]

lmao! I just found this picture. I think its worth sharing. Funny cause as far as size goes I feel like thats what he is gonna look like. Other M Ridley does have short legs compared to arms.

http://i.imgur.com/WydbvS4.jpg

 

[soviet prince]

do you think this will be a good alt for ridley

 

[Xhampi]

do you think this will be a good alt for ridley

That....That thing is way too evil for Smash *shudders*

 

[Deleted member]

One thing that can said for sure this Ridley clearly hasn't been taking as much steroids. He is noticeable thinner then Other M Ridley.

That's why I thought that was Meta Ridley, I was like "what M.Ridley is doing here?"

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So here's an interesting question.

What did Sakurai say in the Japanese Version of the direct?

 

[soviet prince]

So here's an interesting question.

What did Sakurai say in the Japanese Version of the direct?

what I heard is basically the same thing but if you all can give me a link and the exact time I might be able to get my friend from japan to translate it

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

One interesting one

Sakurai said other boss appearances

I mean think about it if he was saying ridley was a boss hazard woulden't it make more sense if it was more boss appearances

So more would me yellow devil plus this one

While other could mean anybody else excluding the shadow

 

[Malle]

One interesting one

Sakurai said other boss appearances

I mean think about it if he was saying ridley was a boss hazard woulden't it make more sense if it was more boss appearances

So more would me yellow devil plus this one

While other could mean anybody else excluding the shadow

I just said that today xD

 

[CamZilla94]

One thing that can said for sure this Ridley clearly hasn't been taking as much steroids. He is noticeable thinner then Other M Ridley.

Also his tail "blade" isn't just pure white like in Other M.

 

[aldelaro5]

Just got a new thought; why did even said that WHILE eidley was shown. I mean think about it if he was an hazard well there's only on reason of why it would make perfect sense to show his shadow: the game being in development and if this was the case why would he even show ridley? Seriously if he was in development then he would like talk about boss appearance while ridley is NOT shown. We waited for so long to get this massive video of info and that's for a reason; the game was not presentable so when the direct is there why would you even show something not quite ready to show? Yes I know about diddy's artwork but really a complete unfinished model? It doesn't make sense to me so if he was indeed not being in development and presentable than it makes even less sense to not show him and just shows his shadow,

So, if he actually talked about him, it HAS to be for a reason like even yellow devil from the beginning has very good chance to be an hazard.

 

[Deleted member]

Just realized something about what Sakurai said:"other boss characters(which could mean they are boss in their games) make appearences in other stages(because a playable char wouldn't be locked to a single one!)"
That's it! I could read Sakurai's words real meaning!
But seriously, is this to far-fetched or acurrate for someone like Sakurai?

 

[OblivionWolf]

Just got a new thought; why did even said that WHILE eidley was shown. I mean think about it if he was an hazard well there's only on reason of why it would make perfect sense to show his shadow: the game being in development and if this was the case why would he even show ridley? Seriously if he was in development then he would like talk about boss appearance while ridley is NOT shown. We waited for so long to get this massive video of info and that's for a reason; the game was not presentable so when the direct is there why would you even show something not quite ready to show? Yes I know about diddy's artwork but really a complete unfinished model? It doesn't make sense to me so if he was indeed not being in development and presentable than it makes even less sense to not show him and just shows his shadow,

So, if he actually talked about him, it HAS to be for a reason like even yellow devil from the beginning has very good chance to be an hazard.

Telling ya Ridley will be playable. He coud have easily shown the Ghost Boss or someone else.

 

[aldelaro5]

Just realized something about what Sakurai said:"other boss characters(which could mean they are boss in their games) make appearences in other stages(because a playable char wouldn't be locked to a single one!)"
That's it! I could read Sakurai's words real meaning!
But seriously, is this to far-fetched or acurrate for someone like Sakurai?

yeah I think it is but the "other boss characters (which might not be ridley) make appearance on other stages (which might not be pyrosphere)." is not since it literally means that + similar to "ridley may appear at any second (so, at one point, ridley CAN be seen on pyroshpere which means that he may not be an hazard)."

 

[Zuba Oki]

I really feel as though Ridley will be playable. Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

 

[Deleted member]

yeah I think it is but the "other boss characters (which might not be ridley) make appearance on other stages (which might not be pyrosphere)." is not since it literally means that + similar to "ridley may appear at any second (so, at one point, ridley CAN be seen on pyroshpere which means that he may not be an hazard)."

As far as I know Sakurai, he tries to take the less obivious way for everything

 

[PlasticBag]

I really feel as though Ridley will be playable. Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

>Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

Should I remind you on what Sakurai said the first time he showed Waluigi?

"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
" because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
"try hard doesn't mean you'll make it"

oh.

 

[Deleted member]

>Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

Should I remind you on what Sakurai said the first time he showed Waluigi?

"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
" because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
"try hard doesn't mean you'll make it"

oh.

What he meant is that he didn't showed us this picture with no explanation whatsoever, Sakurai clearly stated that he wasn't a new fighter

 

[OblivionWolf]

>Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

Should I remind you on what Sakurai said the first time he showed Waluigi?

"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
" because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
"try hard doesn't mean you'll make it"

oh.

Thats not talking about his fans but Waluigi himself.

 

[Phaazoid]

>Sakurai doesn't play around when disconfirming characters ex. Waluigi

Should I remind you on what Sakurai said the first time he showed Waluigi?

"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
" because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
"try hard doesn't mean you'll make it"

oh.

This is only one case. We don't really know that, yet. If Palutena isn't playable, then he sure as hell jerked us around there, too.

Also, if you watch the direct, there are quite a few assist trophies from brawl shown that hadn't been deconfirmed as characters yet (samurai gorah, starfy, Lyn),but those weren't really speculated to be playable. However, a few that have better chances (think isaac) weren't shown.

We just don't know enough to make such sweeping statements

 

[ES. Dinah]

I am almost certain that Sakurai was not talking to the fans when he said that. It almost just seems to harsh.

 

[R_Trigger]

I am almost certain that Sakurai was not talking to the fans when he said that. It almost just seems to harsh.

This is what I think as well, I'm pretty sure he was talking about the character himself. In both the Melee and Brawl trophy, they mentioned Waluigi is a try-hard. Also, the Dedenne PoTD the next day specifically mentioned that "Dedenne's hard at work too".

 

[JamesDNaux]

I'm still on the "he's a boss" side of speculation (especially since the shadow was brought up in context of stage bosses), but there could be a minute chance that he can be both.

That you have to fight him on the Pyrosphere as a boss in order to unlock him as a character.
After all, there are two kinds of bosses in Smash Bros.;
a) the limited movement, health-based boss such as Master Hand and the bosses from SSE (which Yellow Devil is shown to be)
b) the "character" bosses that are fought just like regular characters are, but have some sort of advantage such as Metal Mario and Giga Bowser.

If Ridley is the latter, he still could be playable regardless of the role.

Yes... Yes, this is brilliant. Bowser was playable in Melee but still a boss in the form of Giga Bowser... Clearly Ridley is playable and Roidley is a boss.

He also transforms into Roidley for his final smash.

I'm just going to continue holding on to hope for him, I don't have much else left.

 

[Xhampi]

Soooo who wants to see Space Pirates as smash run enemies so Ridley can show them why he is their boss ? =p

 

[AndreaAC]

I was kind of tired so i did the drawing really quick (specially the shadow)

 

[DeanAdamFry]

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I was kind of tired so i did the drawing really quick (specially the shadow)

You just activated Toon World on Ridley, you sick man.

 

[AndreaAC]

You just activated Toon World on Ridley, you sick man.

Um...what?? i speak spanish and sometimes i do not understand some things....what do you mean?

 

[OblivionWolf]

Um...what?? i speak spanish and sometimes i do not understand some things....what do you mean?

Its a Yugioh thing this card here with some magic Toon spell turns this.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0rgmuBY731r2vugdo1_400.png


Into this.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb...ages/e/e6/BlueEyesToonDragon-LCYW-EN-R-1E.png

 

[AndreaAC]

Its a Yugioh thing this card here with some magic Toon spell turns this.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0rgmuBY731r2vugdo1_400.png


Into this.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb...ages/e/e6/BlueEyesToonDragon-LCYW-EN-R-1E.png

OH! OK! xD Thanks for the info.....

 

[OblivionWolf]

OH! OK! xD Thanks for the info.....

No problem haha. Actually now that I think about it this card reminds me of Ridley. My favorite card as a kid even before I knew Metroid. Seems my tastes haven't changed lol.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb.../images/d/d8/RedEyesBDragon-LCJW-EN-UR-1E.png

 

[Neighbor_Kid]

Are you still recruiting space pirates?

 

[Phaazoid]

Are you still recruiting space pirates?

Yes, beyond a shadow of a doubt

or should I have said

Beyond the doubt of a shadow, yes