Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Ridley_Prime]

:3 no problem, and yes, it is not an animation because those files are big, and i do not want to have troubles because of the size of a signature....i wish we could use images without have to use an URL...i would have used one of my Ridley drawings

oh, and when he walks in two legs (all pissed off), i found it funny (and cute) because the little jump he makes before he starts walking towards you xD

If you crop or resize one of your drawings (would be an excellent idea that I thought about suggesting) in photobucket or something if not some image editing program, I think you'd be able to have one in your sig easily. If you don't know how to do it I could... help, I guess.

In general, I think Retro may have unintentionally made Omega Ridley cute with the way it fights and moves some. Even when it clawed at the ground like a cat or dog or something was weirdly adorable. I don't quite remember that jump you mentioned, as it's been quite awhile since I played that.

 

[AndreaAC]

If you crop or resize one of your drawings (would be an excellent idea that I thought about suggesting) in photobucket or something if not some image editing program, I think you'd be able to have one in your sig easily. If you don't know how to do it I could... help, I guess.

In general, I think Retro may have unintentionally made Omega Ridley cute with the way it fights and moves some. Even when it clawed at the ground like a cat or dog or something was weirdly adorable. I don't quite remember that jump you mentioned, as it's been quite awhile since I played that.

:3 thank you so much, but dont worry, with the one i have know is fine, and yes....it is cute, that and the way he falls on his butt in the first phase.....oh and before i had found so many references, i remeber one time that i dared to draw him in full body using a screenshot i took of him while i was playing....

oh...and i added that random bowser and ganondorf later when i played brawl (they were like that....it was so funny... xD)

 

[SchAlternate]

So I heard you like drawings.

Just my version of Ridley. And some size comparisons for good measure.

 

[AndreaAC]

So I h eard you like drawings.

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Just my version of Ridley. And some size comparisons for good measure.

:D AWESOME DRAWING! :3 Your Ridley looks awesome! Me like it!

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

What's more, Little Mac has changed the game a bit when it comes to Ridley's chances. His inclusion reveals two key points:

A) You status in past Smash games is not necessarily an obstacle for inclusion in a future one. Little Mac was an Assist Trophy in Brawl, and characters such as Isaac and Samurai Goroh (who rank among the most Smash-worthy ATs) consequently have a greater shot at inclusion.

This would also apply to bosses, such as Ridley. There is now less justification to say that Ridley's previous boss status invalidates his chances for inclusion.

B) A Newcomer's home stage can be revealed long before said Newcomer is ever revealed. The Punch-Out Ring was revealed way back in E3, yet Little Mac was only revealed eight months later (and they had to disguise the Boxing Ring to downplay the parallels). Similarly, the existence of Gateway Galaxy was alluded to months before Rosalina's reveal (and I think the stage was actual shown before Rosalina, IIRC).

Pyrosphere is the site of the Samus-Ridley fight in Other M. If Ridley were to have any home stage, it would be Pyrosphere. The Wii U Kid Icarus stage revealed last month, the Fire Emblem Awakening stage on the 3DS, Pyrosphere; these may be alluding to Newcomers that we have yet to see (namely, Palutena and a new FE character).

And of course, we have the plethora of other arguments in Ridley's favour, elaborated upon ad nauseam in this thread. Suffice it to say that Ridley has every reason to be in SSB4, and to exclude him for anything other than crippling time/development constraints would mark this as a woefully missed opportunity on the part of Sora (/Namco-Bandai).

As an aside, these points have probably already been addressed by now. But I figured that I'd take to formalize these more recent arguments in a single convenient post.

There's a third key point

C) little mac was heavily more requested in the usa than in japan so little mac lacked japan support
So japan diden't care for little mac unlike us and he got confirmed 4 days ago which shows sakurai might be focusing in all nations in the worlds request

Ridley has lack of support in japan as well so he may look into are requests and so he might be atleast trying to make ridley for some of the japan supports plus the heavier supporters in the other nations to make the world happy not just japan

 

[Ridley_Prime]

:3 thank you so much, but dont worry, with the one i have know is fine, and yes....it is cute, that and the way he falls on his butt in the first phase.....oh and before i had found so many references, i remeber one time that i dared to draw him in full body using a screenshot i took of him while i was playing....

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oh...and i added that random bowser and ganondorf later when i played brawl (they were like that....it was so funny... xD)

Eh, very well... I personally think it would be a missed opportunity though to not have some of what you've done/your talent be advertised in your own sig, but it's fine as it is still.

Oh yeah, forgot Omega fell like that during the first phase if you shot him enough while he was in the air. Yeah, I guess they did try to make him more goofy in a way, which is fine. lol

Do I even need to say why I like that picture? xD Fabulous!

 

[AndreaAC]

Eh, very well... I personally think it would be a missed opportunity though to not have some of what you've done/your talent be advertised in your own sig, but it's fine as it is still.

Oh yeah, forgot Omega fell like that during the first phase if you shot him enough while he was in the air. Yeah, I guess they did try to make him more goofy in a way, which is fine. lol

Do I even need to say why I like that picture? xD Fabulous!

:3 THANK YOU!!! glad you liked it! the only thing that scared me when i fought him was, that a wierd glitch happened, every time i shot him when he was in the air in his last phase, when he fell, when he touched the ground, he made a wierd high jump backwards and flapped his wings, later he starts attacking, but, the thing that supuosedly had to happen was that he landed in his two feet and roared to later walk towards you.....it was scary....

there was a time that he even DISAPPEARED from the leviathan, and the one where he does he's Phazon claw slash endlessly

oh, and should i show more of my Ridley drawings???

 

[Hotfeet444]

Everyone draws so well...

Mine sucks compared to you guys.

 

[yosharioIII]

We have to kill the concept of being big?

...Well, that's what Ridley supporters do on a regular basis...

What if we actually did that. Like the concept of "big" would no longer be a thing and everything was all hunky-dory and K. Rool and Ridley got in without a hitch? But then would the world fall into to chaos without knowing what to call something that's not small? THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW

 

[AndreaAC]

Everyone draws so well...

Mine sucks compared to you guys.

O___O why would you say that?! YOUR DRAWING IS AWESOME! and it is so CLEAN! i never was able to draw Other Ridley like that!!!

 

[Hotfeet444]

O___O why would you say that?! YOUR DRAWING IS AWESOME! and it is so CLEAN! i never was able to draw Other Ridley like that!!!

...Really? Because you're like twice the artist I am, is drawing Other M Ridley really that hard? O_o

 

[False Sense]

What if we actually did that. Like the concept of "big" would no longer be a thing and everything was all hunky-dory and K. Rool and Ridley got in without a hitch? But then would the world fall into to chaos without knowing what to call something that's not small? THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW

We just call things things. No judgement would be made based on size.

Though while that might be good for Ridley, I don't think K. Rool would benefit too much from it...

 

[Ridley_Prime]

:3 THANK YOU!!! glad you liked it! the only thing that scared me when i fought him was, that a wierd glitch happened, every time i shot him when he was in the air in his last phase, when he fell, when he touched the ground, he made a wierd high jump backwards and flapped his wings, later he starts attacking, but, the thing that supuosedly had to happen was that he landed in his two feet and roared to later walk towards you.....it was scary....

there was a time that he even DISAPPEARED from the leviathan, and the one where he does he's Phazon claw slash endlessly

oh, and should i show more of my Ridley drawings???

Sure! Don't see why not.

Wow, I wish I had encountered some scary cool glitches with him like those. Never saw him use the Phazon claw slash that often compared to his other moves. :\ And how did he disappear? Just when he was randomly flying around during the last phase and just never appeared again? I remember seeing some glitches on youtube where he somehow got 'stuck' during the animation of his ground dash move, unable to move anywhere at all afterward, and you're not able to damage him any while he's "frozen" like that either, so ya pretty much have to restart from last save point.

And yeah Hotfeet; not many here tend to draw Other M Ridley compared to one of the classic lanky forms, so it's not like you have much competition in that respect. I've only been good at drawing the "coiled" kind of dragons like Rayquaza and some different mythological creatures, but I reckon Other Ridley would at least be a little harder to draw than most of the other forms, for some reason.

 

[AndreaAC]

...Really? Because you're like twice the artist I am, is drawing Other M Ridley really that hard? O_o

:D OF COURSE! Oh, and like i said before, i draw Ridley (the brawl version mainly) way too much, and that Omega Ridley drawing is so old, and seeing the references i got recently made me realize that my omega Ridley drawing looks like s###, honestly.....and i never dared to draw him again,...and yes, drawing Other Ridley is hard for me because his body is too humanoid, and one of the thing i cant draw well is the human figure.....

@Ridley_Prime even if the glitches are cool....they are scary as hell....and he DISAPPEARED FOREVER! the last thing i remember i did before that, was that i used the screw attack when he was going to use the tackle attack (not againts him, but in the same direction of his attack) and i saw him jump very high, and he never returned.

 

[Hotfeet444]

:D OF COURSE! Oh, and like i said before, i draw Ridley (the brawl version mainly) way too much, and that Omega Ridley drawing is so old, and seeing the references i got recently made me realize that my omega Ridley drawing looks like s###, honestly.....and i never dared to draw him again,...and yes, drawing Other Ridley is hard for me because his body is too humanoid, and one of the thing i cant draw well is the human figure.....

@Ridley_Prime even if they glitches are cool....they are scary as hell....and he DISAPPEARED FOREVER! the last thing i remember i did before that, was that i used the screw attack when he was going to use the tackle attack (not againts him, but in the same direction of his attack) and i saw him jump very high, and he never returned.

I see, well, I'm pretty good at drawing a human figure, although I do like to exaggerate it a bit myself:

It's probably why I prefer to draw Other M Ridley thanks to the fact his body structure is more in-tune with the style I'm used to...still can't draw hands though, but that's understandable, hands are easily some of the hardest things to draw ever.

 

[SchAlternate]

Everyone draws so well...

Mine sucks compared to you guys.

Oh, don't be so harsh on yourself. Yours is still awesome!

 

[AndreaAC]

I see, well, I'm pretty good at drawing a human figure, although I do like to exaggerate it a bit myself:

It's probably why I prefer to draw Other M Ridley thanks to the fact his body structure is more in-tune with the style I'm used to...still can't draw hands though, but that's understandable, hands are easily some of the hardest things to draw ever.

:D that Midna drawing is beautiful! and yes....drawing hands are the hardest things to draw.....and im glad to know you are able to draw human figure with ease! i will have to force myself to learn how to draw it if i want to be able to do many of my comic proyects i have in mind! obviously one of them is going to be about Ridley....but drawing Samus is the mayor problem.....oh, and i was never able to draw the Fused Shadow on Midna's head...too many details...

 

[Hotfeet444]

:D that Midna drawing is beautiful! and yes....drawing hands are the hardest things to draw.....and im glad to know you are able to draw human figure with ease! i will have to force myself to learn how to draw it if i want to be able to do many of my comic proyects i have in mind! obviously one of them is going to be about Ridley....but drawing Samus is the mayor problem.....

Well, have you considered trying skeleton drawings? That's what I usually do before I draw something so that I can get the proportions right before drawing a picture. And skeleton drawings for a human is much easier than skeleton drawings for a Pterosaur.

 

[AndreaAC]

Well, have you considered trying skeleton drawings? That's what I usually do before I draw something so that I can get the proportions right before drawing a picture. And skeleton drawings for a human is much easier than skeleton drawings for a Pterosaur.

If I tried that, at first they would look as deformed as "The Scream" painting....or even worse.....but oh well, LOTS OF PRACTICE!!! im really hoping to be able to post my comic proyects when im able to make them.....and MORE RIDLEY......!

And you are so lucky to have those models.......i wish i could view them on my computer....and have that Omega Ridley model in my hands....damn it....why i had to like the most complex Ridley design ever?

 

[Hotfeet444]

If I tried that, at first they would look as deformed as "The Scream" painting....or even worse.....but oh well, LOTS OF PRACTICE!!! im really hoping to be able to post my comic proyects when im able to make them.....and MORE RIDLEY......!

And you are so lucky to have those models.......i wish i could view them on my computer....and have that Omega Ridley model in my hands....damn it....why i had to like the most complex Ridley design ever?

Well here, have them for yourself to view as reference for assistance.

Accordingly these are made by AngelGlory...the guy's a damn genius.

 

[AndreaAC]

Well here, have them for yourself to view as reference for assistance.
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Accordingly these are made by AngelGlory...the guy's a damn genius.

c: I know he is! i have seen his work with those models way before i decided to create an account here...... :D

Oh, and like i said before......MORE RIDLEY!

 

[Ridley_Prime]

:D OF COURSE! Oh, and like i said before, i draw Ridley (the brawl version mainly) way too much, and that Omega Ridley drawing is so old, and seeing the references i got recently made me realize that my omega Ridley drawing looks like s###, honestly.....and i never dared to draw him again,...and yes, drawing Other Ridley is hard for me because his body is too humanoid, and one of the thing i cant draw well is the human figure.....

@Ridley_Prime even if the glitches are cool....they are scary as hell....and he DISAPPEARED FOREVER! the last thing i remember i did before that, was that i used the screw attack when he was going to use the tackle attack (not againts him, but in the same direction of his attack) and i saw him jump very high, and he never returned.

Wow, now that's scary. I knew that using the Screw Attack against Omega causes him to use his own version of Other M Samus's "sense move", (dodge to the side and all that) but dayum. Trippy **** right there.

B-b-but, I have yet to see a drawing from you that looks like ****, even Omega Ridley.

Well, have you considered trying skeleton drawings? That's what I usually do before I draw something so that I can get the proportions right before drawing a picture. And skeleton drawings for a human is much easier than skeleton drawings for a Pterosaur.

Or you could try drawing a human figure with only muscle/skin. Skeleton's good too though, but when I tried to draw the former, I drew what ended up looking like some kind of robot. xD

Yeah...

 

[Hotfeet444]

Wow, now that's scary. I knew that using the Screw Attack against Omega causes him to use his own version of Other M Samus's "sense move", (dodge to the side and all that) but dayum. Trippy **** right there.

B-b-but, I have yet to see a drawing from you that looks like ****, even Omega Ridley.


Or you could try drawing a human figure with only muscle/skin. Skeleton's good too though, but when I tried to draw the former, I drew what ended up looking like some kind of robot. xD

Yeah...

Well that's kind of an addition to the skeleton drawing, as it starts with the stick figure-esque design of the pose, then the muscles/size of appendages/limbs is added in afterwards before the final layer of pencil is applied.

c: I know he is! i have seen his work with those models way before i decided to create an account here...... :D

Oh, and like i said before......MORE RIDLEY!

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I don't draw Ridley nearly as much as I should...so...this is the only other thing I have involving Ridley:

....Don't ask, because I don't know either. There is a chance I may have been drunk when I made this.

 

[AndreaAC]

Well that's kind of an addition to the skeleton drawing, as it starts with the stick figure-esque design of the pose, then the muscles/size of appendages/limbs is added in afterwards before the final layer of pencil is applied.


I don't draw Ridley nearly as much as I should...so...this is the only other thing I have involving Ridley:

....Don't ask, because I don't know either.

WOW!!! oh my.....I really want to see more drawings of yours!!! :D CONGRATULATIONS!

 

[SchAlternate]

So I made a lineart out of my sketch. I'm getting better with my WACOM tablet, but I still don't know.

I don't draw Ridley nearly as much as I should...so...this is the only other thing I have involving Ridley:

....Don't ask, because I don't know either.

Regardless of context, that looks sweet.

 

[AndreaAC]

So I made a lineart out of my sketch. I'm getting better with my WACOM tablet, but I still don't know.

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Regardless of context, that looks sweet.

IT LOOKS AMAZING! i mean....i have one of those tablets......but i have never used it! but seeing this make's me want to give it a try...!

I only have done something like that using Paint (pretty pathetic).....it took me 3 days to finish it....the hardest part was to make the metroid sprites and the kanji only using the eraser

 

[Hotfeet444]

WOW!!! oh my.....I really want to see more drawings of yours!!! :D CONGRATULATIONS!

If you're interested in more of my artwork, I have a Tumblr under the same name that I have here. Warning, not everything is SFW, so enter at your own risk.

As for one of my latest pictures...I made this over a month ago.

Oh yeah, Ridley's in this picture too.

 

[Crocovile]

Since everybody's doing more art of Ridley, why don't I too upload some more for everyones enjoyment

 

[AndreaAC]

SO MANY AWESOME DRAWINGS! :3 I CANT STOP LOOKING AT THEM!!!!

 

[Anomilus]

Seems I need to update my own Ridley drawing abilities at some point. Everyone's got the talent, and Ridley couldn't be prouder.

...Can't say I'd want to learn to draw Other M Ridley though...

 

[Angelglory]

I can draw as well, but it's rare that my drawings doesn't infuriate me. So I'll stick with posing models. And in that mention, I'll be back with a treat


(and it's a lowercase 'g' in my name btw)

 

[Hotfeet444]

I can draw as well, but it's rare that my drawings doesn't infuriate me. So I'll stick with posing models. And in that mention, I'll be back with a treat


(and it's a lowercase 'g' in my name btw)

Well your posing has helped me many times lately with discussing Ridley sizes on different stages. Also, would you happen to have these two Ridley models seperated from one another?

I'd like to try doing the same thing I did with Other M Ridley with Super Metroid Ridley, and having to remove Samus is kind of an issue.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Seems I need to update my own Ridley drawing abilities at some point. Everyone's got the talent, and Ridley couldn't be prouder.

...Can't say I'd want to learn to draw Other M Ridley though...

I admit this has all kinda inspired me to "update" myself in that area as well. Back when I was a much less experienced artist, I once tried to draw Ridley in his render and pose on the Super Metroid box cover. Let's just say that didn't go so well...

You and me both.

 

[Ridleyfighter]

Does anyone know that little mac joined the fight? So if they let in someone as nostalgic as him, then they can have ridley come in as well.

 

[Angelglory]

Ask and ye shall receive

 

[Hotfeet444]

Ask and ye shall receive

Thank you Kindly! :3

Now I must get to work on putting that Ridley on every Smash Bros stage we have so far...

PS: I saw you have a K.Rool model as well, can I borrow that one as well? It'll help with the size comparisons.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Spoiler

Super Metroid Playable Ridley on Wii U stages...

 

[AndreaAC]

Spoiler

Super Metroid Playable Ridley on Wii U stages...

He looks perfect! :3 I cant see why nintendo could not do that before......

 

[False Sense]

Spoiler

Super Metroid Playable Ridley on Wii U stages...

Well, no offense to the classic Ridley, but that model just looks... weird... I think it's that giant head... It looks like he could eat Mega Man whole in that one picture.

Probably best to stick with the Other M model for a playable Ridley. Much more workable head size.

 

[SchAlternate]

Dayum, Ridley, baby, you look astonishing with that pink shading!