Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I'd say Ridley's chances of getting in are pretty big

Wow... dat Magic School Bus reference.

Anyways, I'd rather we NOT bring up that "Roster of Evil" (: Great!) and instead talk about this. With the mention of Final Smashes for Ridley, someone before suggested Ridley could do something similar to Samus, firing a laser of some kind (plasma beam). I do like that idea better than a space raid (I just don't like summon FS's ), but to make it not a Samus clone FS, inb4 Landmasters for everyone why not give Ridley Lucario's FS from Brawl? With Lucario now having a Mega evolution, his old FS could be given to Ridley. I think it would be perfect for him to fly up offscreen, position himself high above the stage, charge a Plasma Beam, and let loose.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Even....... THIS ONE?:

The NES Ridley wasn't that bad looking in-game/in sprite form, so much as the concept art of it was.

Maybe Roidley having green eyes was an ode to that Ridley, now that I think about it. Either way, wouldn't mind if NES Ridley represented the green team alt color instead of the Zero Mission artwork or whatever that was just somewhat green, with green claws included like in the above sprite.

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Well with PeterJude's posted translation, my hope for playable Ridley just plummeted even further somewhat.

 

[AustarusIV]

Oh no, they did bring up Ridley...

I'm Japanese not great, but I transcribed the text to put through a translator:



But yes, they most certainly allude to what has been said about him. I'm starting to think they may be hyping Ridley up as the greatest stage boss of all time. That said, they may know as little as us and have just chucked that in as they are a bit confused by the lack of anything to say about it. In which case it's neutral to this whole point.

I'm very curious if we have any native speakers who could give us a bit of context for this. Here's the text itself:

Spoiler

灼熱に包まれた溶岩の地。浮かぶ台座と、小さめの足場がいくつかという比較的シンプルなステージだが、強大な「何者か」の影を見たという情報も…？詳しい仕掛けなどは未だ不明だが、ステージの構造自体はそれほど複雑ではない。

Ah, I see. It doesn't surprise me that they brought up the 'shadow' from the Direct, considering how infamous it is in the Smash fanbase.

I still think this seems to be good news for Ridley, because they would have outright stated he was a hazard and showed pictures of him if that shadow was meant to 100% disconfirm him.

It's kind of strange how they never brought up his name, though. It seemed pretty obvious that it was him, and he's certainly no obscure Nintendo character.

 

[FallofBrawl]

Also, better tell you guys now.
I'm not really proud of it, but...
I used to be a Ridley detractor.

I'm so heppy for you
EDIT: If someone can edit this video and paste Sakurai's face on the younger dude and Ridley's face on the older gent that would be epic

 

[PeterJude]

As Lizardon said, there's no point hyping a stage boss, especially considering it's more of a downgrade from a main boss, since stage bosses are basically special types of stage hazards. Also, I think it might be hinting at him being revealed on that stage, like in a trailer or something. But you still bring up a good point.



It's alright man. You probablly had your reasons, but it's good to know that even a detractor can have a change of heart!

I as I've kept saying on this thread, I seriously doubt they'd hype a stage boss like that, and the speculation that they generated (that he was playable) would have surely gotten them to end it early and show him early if he were simply a stage boss, because they've made it clear that they don't like to leave such speculation alive and kicking. Leaving it for a year if Ridley were not playable doesn't make sense with anything that they've done.

The point here though is that a few were starting to speculate about there being no mention of Ridley, they they most certainly had alluded to him. Based on them mentioning the shadow, I seriously doubt they have any more information than we do, so it's pretty much a no score draw on that one.

 

[TheBrainJem]

With the mention of Final Smashes for Ridley, someone before suggested Ridley could do something similar to Samus, firing a laser of some kind (plasma beam). I do like that idea better than a space raid (I just don't like summon FS's ), but to make it not a Samus clone FS, inb4 Landmasters for everyone why not give Ridley Lucario's FS from Brawl? With Lucario now having a Mega evolution, his old FS could be given to Ridley. I think it would be perfect for him to fly up offscreen, position himself high above the stage, charge a Plasma Beam, and let loose.

That's actually a pretty cool idea!

Personally I'm hoping for the wall drag from Brawl and Other M. Could work like this:

Ridley doubles in size for a brief moment. He makes a grab at the opponents near him (like Captain Falcon's Blue Falcon) and can grab up to 3 characters. He then flies off screen and it goes into a cut-scene of him dragging the other players on the wall, then finishing them with a Fireball blast (Ala Dead or Alive Dimensions). After the screen is engulfed in flames, it cuts to Ridley back on the stage shrinking down, and all the characters hit by the smash fly off the stage.

 

[PeterJude]

Ah, I see. It doesn't surprise me that they brought up the 'shadow' from the Direct, considering how infamous it is in the Smash fanbase.

I still think this seems to be good news for Ridley, because they would have outright stated he was a hazard and showed pictures of him if that shadow was meant to 100% disconfirm him.

It's kind of strange how they never brought up his name, though. It seemed pretty obvious that it was him, and he's certainly no obscure Nintendo character.

I have a suspicion that they've been given no more information than us on this front. An argument could be made that they asked for clarification of the shadow, and were told there would be no comment, but even then you can't really draw any more from that than we already know, and what we already know means it's hugely unlikely that they'd tease Ridley that way for him only to be a stage boss.

Does Nintendo write these parts? If it were Nintendo it could just be added to the pile of teases about him. But here though, the point that was trying to be made was that he was't mentioned, when he was most certainly alluded to.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Well with PeterJude's posted translation, my hope for playable Ridley just plummeted even further somewhat.

Meh, I don't believe it meant "Stage Hazardley". By the time that magazine was printed, there's no way in the underworld that Ridley's role as a stage hazard is still vague. Ridley should have been WAY pass completed and implemented as a hazard and posted information about his role. I believe with the alluding of saying his name, like Sakurai has refused to do as well, makes me think Stage Hazardley isn't a thing, instead the opposite, as a playable Ridley.

 

[TheBrainJem]

I as I've kept saying on this thread, I seriously doubt they'd hype a stage boss like that, and the speculation that they generated (that he was playable) would have surely gotten them to end it early and show him early if he were simply a stage boss, because they've made it clear that they don't like to leave such speculation alive and kicking. Leaving it for a year if Ridley were not playable doesn't make sense with anything that they've done.

The point here though is that a few were starting to speculate about there being no mention of Ridley, they they most certainly had alluded to him. Based on them mentioning the shadow, I seriously doubt they have any more information than we do, so it's pretty much a no score draw on that one.

Ohh... okay. gotcha!

Anyways, calling it a night, guys.
See ya tomorrow!

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

...That's mean. You're starting to sound like a detractor. ;_;

Sorry, sorry, but I felt like it needed to be said. Lucina has the excuse of having a different model and different sword than Marth, and she started as an alternate costume. But Dark Pit and Dr. Mario are quite literally a palette swap and an existing character with different clothes, respectively.

Ridley is not only an important character (like Lucina) but has a variety of moves that will make him stand out. There's practically nothing in his way in terms of playability.

 

[Captain Fun]

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Another user here XKan posted their translation.

1.) A level wrapped in burning lava. It is a relatively simple map with a suspended platform and few places to stand --but also the mighty shadow of someone can be seen...

2/3.) Details of this stage's gimmicks are still unknown, but we do know that the stage itself is not complex.

I've got a bad feeling...

 

[SchAlternate]

That doorbell sound at the end must've been Ridley.*Copyright Schalternate

Also, quick Google translate for that quote...

Land of lava wrapped in burning. It's a relatively simple stage and pedestal float, scaffolding smaller that some, but also information that saw the shadow of the "someone" mighty ...? Such as detailed gimmick is unknown yet, but the structure of the stage is not very complicated.

Uh...

Not entirely sure how to react about that...

 

[Captain Soviet]

Another user here XKan posted their translation.
I've got a bad feeling...

Actually, that makes me feel pretty good. If the stage isn't that complicated, then its boss (assuming it has one) would have to be very simple. And why would you tease and build up a very simple boss, especially as that is a downgrade from the Ridley of old.

 

[kikaru]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

 

[BrigadeStuart]

what im curious about that translation is that why didn't they just say it was ridley's shadow and not "someone's" maybe since its not 100% confirmed on who it is (which we all know is ridley but i think you know what i mean right?) or they're in on the ridley tease as well..

 

[Wise Multishine]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

A video? Oh my. "Leakers" are getting more crafty.

 

[Captain Fun]

Actually, that makes me feel pretty good. If the stage isn't that complicated, then its boss (assuming it has one) would have to be very simple. And why would you tease and build up a very simple boss, especially as that is a downgrade from the Ridley of old.

I can't comment on the reliability of the translation but I interpreted it as meaning that the stage layout itself is not complicated, but the stage's gimmick is unknown. The fact that they alluded to the shadow and commented on the stage's gimmick being unknown...I can't interpret that as meaning anything good.

 

[AustarusIV]

So I think what we can gather from this is that they know just as little as the rest of us regarding Pyrosphere. Which is odd, considering that we seem to know everything about all the other Wii U stages, and we've gotten some new pictures that we've never seen before in that magazine.

Seems to me that this is what we expected Corocoro magazine to cover earlier this month, only to be let down by their false hype.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

Things just got more interesting. The only difference from the leak earlier this week is that we're getting video footage. Looks fake, but gonna wait and see how it plays out. Those leakers sure are getting really good at tricking us.

 

[Wise Multishine]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

Wait...this is proven to be fake, right? And we've seen that Ridley render somewhere before, right?..

...right?

 

[BrigadeStuart]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

http://youtu.be/6SL72a4CNz8?t=9s "hes hereeeee...." my reaction when i saw that

 

[TheGalaxyKnight]

I felt something. . . a presence I have not felt since. . .

Since... What?

 

[Poopmin]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

Classic Ridley kills the leak.

 

[kikaru]

Wait...this is proven to be fake, right? And we've seen that Ridley render somewhere before, right?..

Can't say I know, this is the first time I've come across this video, the render does look similar to his Brawl model if you ask me.

 

[IsmaR]

Personally I'd turn to someone fluent to translate, such as @Venus of the Desert Bloom

Though I think he might already be working on all the other scans.

 

[KokiriKory]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

It sure is convenient that these Metal Sonic and Ridley videos don't have any of the other newcomers in the other player slots.

These things are fake and the guy is creative, but let's not fool ourselves.

 

[False Sense]

Did anyone see those Nintendo Dream scans, in which they had a little section on Pyrosphere and they never brought up Ridley appearing on the stage at all? And yet when they got to Dr. Wily's Castle, they went into detail about the Yellow Devil?

Spoiler

...Yeah.

"Huh? Where's Ridley?"

"What's a Ridley?"

 

[SchAlternate]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

Convincing as ****.

That's it folks, the war has been won.

We travelled a long journey together, but we've finally made it...












... Just kidding! Get back to work ya slackers, we're not done yet!

 

[Beanybunny]

"Totally not fake"

It's fake. ;w;

 

[Poopmin]

Convincing as ****.

That's it folks, the war has been won.

We travelled a long journey together, but we've finally made it...












... Just kidding! Get back to work ya slackers, we're not done yet!

Literally the description is "Totally not fake."


EDIT: I dun been 'D

 

[shrooby]

You'd think you could at least see a portion of the Metroid Emblem, you can barely see the others... And of course all these damned sources just tease. Take with a grain heaping RIdley-sized salt.

Oh, yeah, that guy's a fraud.
In another one of his "PROOF"s he uses an existing Snake render. Destroys every video he puts up, really.
Regardless, just seeing that image of playable Ridley with the other playable characters makes me positively giddy!

 

[TheGalaxyKnight]

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Needs to be MK8 DLC

 

[Wise Multishine]

I mean...canonically, Roidley is a clone.

It's possible that Roidley could be the stage boss and Classic/Brawley could be the playable character.

 

[TheGalaxyKnight]

Wow... dat Magic School Bus reference.

Anyways, I'd rather we NOT bring up that "Roster of Evil" (: Great!) and instead talk about this. With the mention of Final Smashes for Ridley, someone before suggested Ridley could do something similar to Samus, firing a laser of some kind (plasma beam). I do like that idea better than a space raid (I just don't like summon FS's ), but to make it not a Samus clone FS, inb4 Landmasters for everyone why not give Ridley Lucario's FS from Brawl? With Lucario now having a Mega evolution, his old FS could be given to Ridley. I think it would be perfect for him to fly up offscreen, position himself high above the stage, charge a Plasma Beam, and let loose.

That was me

 

[Ridles the Space Pirate]

Ugh, just any kind of confirmation would be good at this point...
I'm tired of being jerked around...

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Welp, that's a fake. I've already accepted the Other M version.

 

[PeterJude]

Ugh, just any kind of confirmation would be good at this point...
I'm tired of being jerked around...

To be honest I think Ridley is their big ticket reveal, along side Shulk, and will probably be the last thing they show before release, as in, a direct the day before release in Japan.

There's no sense in him being a secret character with dithered releases, it'll spoil the surprise that Sakurai has wanted to build. There's others that might end up being secret, who knows, but if Ridley is in, he'll get revealed.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

There is still the possibility of Ridley alt costumes for his other forms.
...but yeah that video's fake. It's not like he needs a leak anyway though

 

[XKan]

I can't comment on the reliability of the translation but I interpreted it as meaning that the stage layout itself is not complicated, but the stage's gimmick is unknown. The fact that they alluded to the shadow and commented on the stage's gimmick being unknown...I can't interpret that as meaning anything good.

Yes, that is what it meant. The stage, physically, is simple, but details of the gimmick are unknown. : )

Personally I'd turn to someone fluent to translate, such as @Venus of the Desert Bloom

Though I think he might already be working on all the other scans.

I am not really too confident in my own abilities, but both @Hong and @Venus of the Desert Bloom have verified earlier translations I have done regarding Famitsu pages, if that helps at all. Of course, fluency is always the best to turn to, but I do not want to trouble him with more than he likely already has to deal with...

 

[Meandpikachu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s13GAKv4Lc
Ridley LEAK!! It been post on You Tube at Aug 22, 2014!!