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To be fair, it's not wrong for those to reevaluate their beliefs when coming across new info presented to them.Between Ness's shirt, Wario's Eye, and the Nintendo 4DS confirmed by the "leak," I think it's safe to say Ridley's not been budged by this.
Ya'll flip-flop harder than a pancake.
Except we're justified in this one because it didn't come from Sakurai.The problem is that people are coming to the "it's fake lol why are guys even entertaining this/it's real lol you're delusional otherwise" conclusions too prematurely, which always ends badly and make people look silly.
... You know it wouldn't be a leak if it came down the official pipeline, right?Except we're justified in this one because it didn't come from Sakurai.
Don't see how. Most leaks don't come from the developers. Yes, it's important to be wary of information coming from an outside source but it doesn't automatically make it illegitimate.Except we're justified in this one because it didn't come from Sakurai.
Exactly. Fake until proven otherwise.Don't see how. Most leaks don't come from the developers. Yes, it's important to be wary of information coming from an outside source but it doesn't automatically make it illegitimate.
Tells you a lot about how much credibility any leak has, doesn't it.... You know it wouldn't be a leak if it came down the official pipeline, right?
That's not what-Exactly. Fake until proven otherwise.
Tells you a lot about how much credibility any leak has, doesn't it.
No its not lol, it has already been debunked.This leak is the real deal folks.
And here we see 4 murky blobs claiming to be Nintendo characters.Hardcore Nintendo fans always lose..
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That looks incredibly fake, I mean look at Ganondorf for God sakes. ya if this is from the same guy then this leak is dead lol. Also why is shulk punching and not using his sword?Hardcore Nintendo fans always lose..
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As much as you're just trying to show some "proof" from the leak, I think you should stop posting this here and post this in the Leak Thread. The mods are probably pulling their hairs out with all this commotion.Hardcore Nintendo fans always lose..
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Why does it look fake that isnt extreme nitpicking, there really isnt a blatantly good reason. I feel we have been screwed and sakurai hates our guts.That looks incredibly fake, I mean look at Ganondorf for God sakes. ya if this is from the same guy then this leak is dead lol. Also why is shulk punching and not using his sword?
I have been through this twice. I'm confident.No its not lol, it has already been debunked.
Leaks are never legitimate.legitimate leak.
Any leak involves Ridley. If he's on it he's confirmed, if he's not on it his chances drop.Why the hell are we still talking about a fake leak that has nothing to do at all with Ridley?
Do you guys really want the mods to close down this thread? We should be talking about how well he might do in the game, which stages he will excel on, and if he'll be a force to be reckoned with to the other characters.
Jigglypuff and Meta Knight will obviously be some of his biggest competitors, I can imagine that.
Read what I have to say:I have been through this twice. I'm confident.
You people are going to look like fools in a few weeks. I have posts flaming me. But keep in mind, I have seen legitimate leaks in the past with Melee and Brawl, and this right here is a legitimate leak.
In the end, people let their pride and fanboyism go before logic.
That leak might be legit... But it's missing some obvious newcomers, G&W's hand is clipping over Wario, Wario is missing a pupil, Duck Hunt looks a little fake, some of the stages look like they were just clipped from past Smashes and Smash U, has some other flaws, and Dr. Mario returning instead of Mewtwo? Really ? If they tried a bit harder then I might have believed it.
I does look legitimate, there are a couple of fishy things here and there but it could easily be explained because its a testing build. It seems we may have been wrong and sakurai is truly an asshole.I have been through this twice. I'm confident.
You people are going to look like fools in a few weeks. I have posts flaming me. But keep in mind, I have seen legitimate leaks in the past with Melee and Brawl, and this right here is a legitimate leak.
In the end, people let their pride and fanboyism go before logic.
Leaks happened with Melee and Brawl. People denied them as well. I know, I was there.Leaks are never legitimate.
Technically every thread is talking about this, but you're right.Why the hell are we still talking about a fake leak that has nothing to do at all with Ridley?
Do you guys really want the mods to close down this thread? We should be talking about how well he might do in the game, which stages he will excel on, and if he'll be a force to be reckoned with to the other characters.
Plus I keep hearing the "Leaker" claims to not have unlocked all the characters. Even if he didn't state that a the leak IS legit, I doubting that is the entire roster. C'mon, 48 with THAT layout? Really?Leaks are never legitimate.
And so was I. A leak is, by its nature, illegitimate. Anything not given out through the official channels is to be dismissed as false until proven otherwise.Leaks happened with Melee and Brawl. People denied them as well. I know, I was there.
The leaks during MElee and Brawl happened a week before release. Second off this is Jigglypuff's artwork in the leak just slightly modifiedI have been through this twice. I'm confident.
You people are going to look like fools in a few weeks. I have posts flaming me. But keep in mind, I have seen legitimate leaks in the past with Melee and Brawl, and this right here is a legitimate leak.
In the end, people let their pride and fanboyism go before logic.
Nope. For Brawl, they happened months before hand (with Melee it was a couple of weeks before the Japanese release).The leaks during MElee and Brawl happened a week before release. Second off this is Jigglypuff's artwork in the leak just slightly modified
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/3/3e/039Jigglypuff.png/250px-039Jigglypuff.png
You are the one that is going to look dumb when it turns out this leak is fake just like every other leak.
Er... no, not exactly. A leak by itself is neither real or fake alone. No leak is arbitrarily fake without evidence or because Sakurai didn't say so himself.Exactly. Fake until proven otherwise.
Tells you a lot about how much credibility any leak has, doesn't it.
Except legitimate leaks happen all the time for various game franchises. That statement is 100% objectively false.Leaks are never legitimate.
Considering Smash history, Ridley will probably have a tough time. He'll be very easy to combo.Do you guys really want the mods to close down this thread? We should be talking about how well he might do in the game, which stages he will excel on, and if he'll be a force to be reckoned with to the other characters.
Jigglypuff and Meta Knight will obviously be some of his biggest competitors, I can imagine that.
I thought it was fake because of Krystals voice actor being in the game, yet she was nowhere to be found and I thought R.O.B. was Rob64 and that didnt make any sense. My only plight against this being real is my disappointment.Leaks happened with Melee and Brawl. People denied them as well. I know, I was there.
There are more pictures
For pete sake, THEY LOOK LIKE BLOBS!Hardcore Nintendo fans always lose..
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At least nowadays, given the talent of some artists and the newer more advance programs available, it's much easier to make a fake leak that can look as legitimate as possible than it was a couple of years ago.Leaks happened with Melee and Brawl. People denied them as well. I know, I was there.
I'm sure they were fanmade. People nowadays can be capable of doing models of that caliber.hoping that the awkward spot placing means either we need to unlock something more or DLC isgetting considered, because this isn't your regular leak (also i believe that the palutena leak is real)
I mean, give me sone of your optimism, but none of the points people have thrown makesnreal weight.
Deded height was ok, even someone pointed it out with a screen (believe me, I do analytical drawing, and there wasn't anything wrong with the DDDs pics)
Mr game and watch is really wario jacket, you are just filling the picture due to how perception works ( i have also worked on a museum full of optical illusions)
Shulk render is profesional quality and also is extremly consistent with teh rest of teh renders (i will omit that i have been in a small classes of texturing modeling and 3d rendering)
bowser junior render isn't the same as people posted like the NSMWU, the hair is a safe indicator (plus is he in some kinda of green pipe?)
Ness model is also more detailed than brawl (you can look at the hair polygons) and the little we can see of jiggly model isn't anything ive seen before.
Ganondorf render isn't in the same pose as the Twilight princess render
Duck hunt dog (god dammit teh most annoying character at videogame history... really) is also very consistent to teh rest of teh game, specially of teh likes of ROB
the only reason it doesn't make sense to group clones together is due tradition, and that isn't set in stone... in fact makes more sense this way imo.
If this is fake, it was done by a profesional, there isn't just mad photoshop skills here, but also modelling and designskills, and usually that kind of profesionals have better things to do with their time. the only one i see being able to pull this stunt are project M guys, and i don't see them doing this kind of stuff (plus they would certainly have put mewtwo and IC)
what really baffles me is no mewtwo but yes bowser junior...or teh dog,,, maybe bowser junior will be representing mario kart?
Sorry guys really... let's hope further unlocks or DLC.
Remember Brawl... Sakurai lost it a long time ago.... ;(Guys, either it's fake (what I think), a prototype, or Sakurai has lost it.