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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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I meant more in the sense that for all the arguments against Ridley, the majority of them apply to him- AND ONLY HIM.

"In Smash, size isn't always true to scale."
Except for Ridley

"Even the most serious of villains can be made to do silly things like wear Bunny Hoods and use Lip's Stick."
Except for Ridley

"It's not impossible for an Alfonzo-replacing-ST Link situation to happen. Plus R.O.B. was an SSE enemy and playable. Characters can play multiple roles."
Except for Ridley..

I think you get the idea.
 

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If they are going to reveal ganon, I hope to god they give him a new moveset!
Yea thats why today wouldn't be a good day to reveal him anyway. A new moveset for him would mean they would have to show it off in a trailer or he's unlockable and wait till the game is out.
 

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"It's not impossible for an Alfonzo-replacing-ST Link situation to happen. Plus R.O.B. was an SSE enemy and playable. Characters can play multiple roles."
Except for Ridley..

I think you get the idea.
You might wanna take the Alfonzo thing with a grain of salt. While yes, many counted Toon Link out when they first saw him on the Spirit Train, it becomes opinionated when you bring up the fact those aren't the same Link. According to the official Zelda timeline, the Link seen on the Spirit Train was born an entire generation after WW Toon Link. That, and the fact a stage background and stage boss are two different things, like @ aldelaro5 aldelaro5 said when he messaged me.

Still, this should prove to many never to jump to conclusions without second thought.

I decided to just do a little post about how the hate about Ridley helped more than anything if you consider how trends work. Please be notified that I state my personal support experience on my most wanted as I found it to be a good example, but it has to do with popularity by talk which is related to Ridley.


With how much controversy it got, this could (and as a joke should) be his punchline:

Ridley isn't too much for anything!

I swear the main arguments are the word "too" with any adjective. Too big, too much like a boss, too complex, too clear of deconfirmation, too hard to do, etc...

It's even became to a point when a new one came: "too controversial". Because honestly, I kinda understand the one who says that with how talked it is. Might be annoying if you don't care (tough, it;s not really a reason for Sakurai to smash his desk while saying "NOPE, forget about it because he has too much attention").

If Ridley has too much behind him, then what's the problem?

Because it would be if it was insufficient. I mean when there's so much stuff to talk that it's "too much" is positive right?


I think you got it now. My point is that there's so much talk about anything he has from source material that the final complain is always "too much anything". It's like he would be so impossible to be in smash because he would have "too much" where having more than enough is actually better than having just enough. Ironically, people don't seem to understand that talking so much about him created the opposite effect intended: he's more popular because of the talk.

I got active here because of the direct (like seriously I don't know why I really seemed like someone who didn't give a crap of him on August 20 and now I do care). Imagine if there was no too big, no shokio video, no clone assumption...he would just have supporters left to talk.

My theory is that the hate around him helped him more than anything. It's kinda like being subject to devil advocate more frequently, your argument become more and more solid and you're more determined to want him in.

If you look at other characters that only had decent popularity with a considerable chances, you will notice that not much is complained about them. I should even say not much people bring up those complains. That, you might think it's good because he wouldn't be hated that much, but not really. That would be because of not caring enough to have substantial hate group. I learned this with my own support. Unless you try to bring the character more talk and opinions, there's nothing left to do. And when I say nothing, I mean it. Thee's not much interest showed, there's no debates and talk which means that there's a stall in overall opinion since not much care enough.

I say this because the MOMENT I tried, it worked. Before, like when I joined as mostly more lurker than poster, I had to do some research on general opinions and popular arguments because that would help me later. Paper Mario was "secretly" my most wanted because I wanted him a lot, but I found him so silently talked that I was even ashamed to even tell why I think he would be worthy in itself. I did mentioned it, but I was so scary that I even told the opposite of my belief. So, it was more me not making any effort and just watch.

It progressively vanished and I did ended up being the OP of his thread. Here's the big problem: there's still no talk. It took 9 bumps for the thread to live and some have months of time gap. However, with how much people I saw to even mention liking the idea, or had to perform search, it shouldn't happen. The moment when the thread became to have enough activity to survive to the sal leak talk until 4 fe reps was when I started to advertise it.

Here's how trends works: when an idea emerge from any person who is willing to innovate, there should have enough people that show positive reaction early for the idea to spread into the majority. The thing is, the idea needs to be PRESENTED before for that. Think about chorus men, the sal leak made a lot of people aware of them and so, the one who liked the idea talked about it which made quite a bit of support.

When I installed my support material (my sig is the best example), there was more talk overall. How it passed from almost no talk to sometime bring up? Because the idea wasn't presented to enough people. It's like you would want him, but you don't know because you didn't hear about the idea enough. That's how it began for the thread to be more on the first page...

To get back to Ridley, the same effect happened. If you repeat too big every time, thee's a lot of people that would be aware and tempted to check if the argument makes sense. This does imply that the one who don't think so look deeper and realise that they want Ridley. If that argument didn't exist, not much people would be aware of the idea in smash context because it won't be that much talked. Which means that there would be less chance to get a boost in popularity and more of a stall.

In melee, there was a supporter base. Arguments emerged which is countered and spread by supporters. This spreading leads to other neutral people to think about it which makes either more supporters or more haters depending on their opinion on it. By having more speculators in general, you have more chances to talk and debates. It's a snowball effect that would keep repeating until it gets boring enough.

It turns out that the next installment, brawl, didn't do that because of the SSE controversy. In fact, it made even more supporters because of the desire to see this change. I just want that you think about it and tell me in the most global perspective possible what did the shokio video changed on his speculation? It's even more global than hates: it's more speculators which means more supporters and haters. By having more, more talk again and it snowballed.

All this to say that the reason any tease should be made is to intentionally do that. Sakurai did bring more speculation and the direct was a mass of them. A direct about smash and teasing him in those advertising conditions was so broad that the whole internet knew. That's a huge snowball indeed.

It did bring more hate, but also supporters due to the deny of hating when presented. I just want to remind you that in the end, I would never sit in front of my keyboard for 5 hours in a row while listening to sanctuary guardians in loop for the sole reason to type my complete opinion on Ridley if it wasn't for Sakurai. And apparently, that same text directly influenced at least one person that is talking frequently in this thread as of now. Again, more talk, more people, even more talk, snowball.

Which is why I want to remind you that I hate the word "troll" in this context, but use the following "ingenious way to control trends". That's really the base of marketing: more people know and speak = more popularity when presented with the good side.

TL;DR, Sakurai is a genius because he control trends exactly what I figured out when I wanted to have a thread on first page more often: present the idea and advertise it so more people know = more talk = even more people hear about it = snowball effect.

Which is why we wait so much...

Let's see what people think about this because It's so ironic to say that the existence of an argument based on false belief helped him.

Snowball effect? How the hell do you have the time to figure out this :mad088:?!
 
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I decided to just do a little post about how the hate about Ridley helped more than anything if you consider how trends work. Please be notified that I state my personal support experience on my most wanted as I found it to be a good example, but it has to do with popularity by talk which is related to Ridley.


With how much controversy it got, this could (and as a joke should) be his punchline:

Ridley isn't too much for anything!

I swear the main arguments are the word "too" with any adjective. Too big, too much like a boss, too complex, too clear of deconfirmation, too hard to do, etc...

It's even became to a point when a new one came: "too controversial". Because honestly, I kinda understand the one who says that with how talked it is. Might be annoying if you don't care (tough, it;s not really a reason for Sakurai to smash his desk while saying "NOPE, forget about it because he has too much attention").

If Ridley has too much behind him, then what's the problem?

Because it would be if it was insufficient. I mean when there's so much stuff to talk that it's "too much" is positive right?


I think you got it now. My point is that there's so much talk about anything he has from source material that the final complain is always "too much anything". It's like he would be so impossible to be in smash because he would have "too much" where having more than enough is actually better than having just enough. Ironically, people don't seem to understand that talking so much about him created the opposite effect intended: he's more popular because of the talk.

I got active here because of the direct (like seriously I don't know why I really seemed like someone who didn't give a crap of him on August 20 and now I do care). Imagine if there was no too big, no shokio video, no clone assumption...he would just have supporters left to talk.

My theory is that the hate around him helped him more than anything. It's kinda like being subject to devil advocate more frequently, your argument become more and more solid and you're more determined to want him in.

If you look at other characters that only had decent popularity with a considerable chances, you will notice that not much is complained about them. I should even say not much people bring up those complains. That, you might think it's good because he wouldn't be hated that much, but not really. That would be because of not caring enough to have substantial hate group. I learned this with my own support. Unless you try to bring the character more talk and opinions, there's nothing left to do. And when I say nothing, I mean it. Thee's not much interest showed, there's no debates and talk which means that there's a stall in overall opinion since not much care enough.

I say this because the MOMENT I tried, it worked. Before, like when I joined as mostly more lurker than poster, I had to do some research on general opinions and popular arguments because that would help me later. Paper Mario was "secretly" my most wanted because I wanted him a lot, but I found him so silently talked that I was even ashamed to even tell why I think he would be worthy in itself. I did mentioned it, but I was so scary that I even told the opposite of my belief. So, it was more me not making any effort and just watch.

It progressively vanished and I did ended up being the OP of his thread. Here's the big problem: there's still no talk. It took 9 bumps for the thread to live and some have months of time gap. However, with how much people I saw to even mention liking the idea, or had to perform search, it shouldn't happen. The moment when the thread became to have enough activity to survive to the sal leak talk until 4 fe reps was when I started to advertise it.

Here's how trends works: when an idea emerge from any person who is willing to innovate, there should have enough people that show positive reaction early for the idea to spread into the majority. The thing is, the idea needs to be PRESENTED before for that. Think about chorus men, the sal leak made a lot of people aware of them and so, the one who liked the idea talked about it which made quite a bit of support.

When I installed my support material (my sig is the best example), there was more talk overall. How it passed from almost no talk to sometime bring up? Because the idea wasn't presented to enough people. It's like you would want him, but you don't know because you didn't hear about the idea enough. That's how it began for the thread to be more on the first page...

To get back to Ridley, the same effect happened. If you repeat too big every time, thee's a lot of people that would be aware and tempted to check if the argument makes sense. This does imply that the one who don't think so look deeper and realise that they want Ridley. If that argument didn't exist, not much people would be aware of the idea in smash context because it won't be that much talked. Which means that there would be less chance to get a boost in popularity and more of a stall.

In melee, there was a supporter base. Arguments emerged which is countered and spread by supporters. This spreading leads to other neutral people to think about it which makes either more supporters or more haters depending on their opinion on it. By having more speculators in general, you have more chances to talk and debates. It's a snowball effect that would keep repeating until it gets boring enough.

It turns out that the next installment, brawl, didn't do that because of the SSE controversy. In fact, it made even more supporters because of the desire to see this change. I just want that you think about it and tell me in the most global perspective possible what did the shokio video changed on his speculation? It's even more global than hates: it's more speculators which means more supporters and haters. By having more, more talk again and it snowballed.

All this to say that the reason any tease should be made is to intentionally do that. Sakurai did bring more speculation and the direct was a mass of them. A direct about smash and teasing him in those advertising conditions was so broad that the whole internet knew. That's a huge snowball indeed.

It did bring more hate, but also supporters due to the deny of hating when presented. I just want to remind you that in the end, I would never sit in front of my keyboard for 5 hours in a row while listening to sanctuary guardians in loop for the sole reason to type my complete opinion on Ridley if it wasn't for Sakurai. And apparently, that same text directly influenced at least one person that is talking frequently in this thread as of now. Again, more talk, more people, even more talk, snowball.

Which is why I want to remind you that I hate the word "troll" in this context, but use the following "ingenious way to control trends". That's really the base of marketing: more people know and speak = more popularity when presented with the good side.

TL;DR, Sakurai is a genius because he control trends exactly what I figured out when I wanted to have a thread on first page more often: present the idea and advertise it so more people know = more talk = even more people hear about it = snowball effect.

Which is why we wait so much...

Let's see what people think about this because It's so ironic to say that the existence of an argument based on false belief helped him.
Do you seriously believe he reads these forums or intended this
 

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I have this sudden unquenchable thirst for Chibi Robo to appear in a trailer with Ridley. I don't know how it could work, maybe Chibi is cleaning Pyrosphere while Samus is on guard watching over the little bot. But I just all of the sudden want something like that. Almost as much as the fabled "Villain Trailer"
 
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That reminds me, I've been meaning to change the title to "Ridley - The only exception to everything/every rule ever"
Might as well, we will know the truth in a matter of weeks, might as end it with one last oorah.

 
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Do you seriously believe he reads these forums or intended this
Former, not necessarily here, but I think his team would have to do some investigations. I mean if you want to market something, you at least needs to do some research about people.

Latter, yes, absolutely and it's not the first time I told it in this thread.


The former is something that I would call selected targeting. For short, designing the tease for the target which in this case, Ridley supporters. The most determined people to want him are the most targeted. Here's the thing: if I take JUST this thread, it's clear that it can go pretty far in determination. So far that it has to be a very good tease. Why it's the longest tease to last for almost a year when little mac was 7 months? Why Palutena only got 3-4 months? And most importantly, why it had to take a month for this thread to fully analyse the tease to get it?

I could check numbers, but I think I could grossly see a correlation between the popularity of the character teased and the time Sakurai let the tease go.

Also, check my essay on second post of this thread, there's a part where I clearly mention that it was intended to make people believe an implied reality when not only it's not even clear to be sure, but also that this reality would have several inconsistencies (Sakurai deconfirmation way is a good example). It's even the same for several teases that already got confirmed so here, I'm pretty sure that it was intended yes. I think however that this one was so strong that 10 seconds of this is genius.

You might wanna take the Alfonzo thing with a grain of salt. While yes, many counted Toon Link out when they first saw him on the Spirit Train, it becomes opinionated when you bring up the fact those aren't the same Link. According to the official Zelda timeline, the Link seen on the Spirit Train was born an entire generation after WW Toon Link. That, and the fact a stage background and stage boss are two different things, like @ aldelaro5 aldelaro5 said when he messaged me.

Still, this should prove to many never to jump to conclusions without second thought.




Snowball effect? How the hell do you have the time to figure out this :mad088:?!
I was watching a video on game theory that explained his point by bringing research results on what people want and trends. I noticed that it made so much sense that it would explain several marketing decisions and by experience, I realised it was accurate on these forums and today, in smash tease like this one.

So, I didn't figure this out, but sort of made my interpretation of what I've heard. I want to remind you that I would never notice that if I never lived it myself (it's now 16 days under tease for me and I'm still obsessed about it). I just wanted to post something regarding the irony of the hates helping popularity, but it turned out into a big explanation with examples :)

So, took me 30 minutes to make the post? Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I;m someone who go REALLY deep into stuff (I'm just like that, it;s a part of my personality in life). I could makes you an essay of me talking about colors choice to tell you how an UI of a game can change significantly your view on it. Like I wrote 2 paragraph to explain why I like the super metroid yells sound effect of Ridley, imagine a full music!

Tough, it happens very often that I already made up my mind prior posting and I figure them as I type. Since my mind already have the idea, explaining it is just me trying to be accurate for "translating" the ideas. I rarely had to restart all over because I just like to think about everything.

This is actually the main reason I wanted to tell my opinion on that tease so much because I like subject when if you go deep, you could talk about it for hours. I love logic, but complex logic is even more addicting for me.

You just had the proof of it in this very post :)
 
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Pic of the Day.

"Pic of the day. Here's Beat! And Plant Barrier!! These are some of Mega Man's custom special moves. You might also be able to use some signature boss-like moves from the Mega Man series, too."

Extremely early today, i think it already was up an hour ago.
 

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Okay, I usually don't tell people what to do, but I need to make an exception.

Please.

For the love of God.

Never, never, NEVERRRRRRR put the spoiler tags on that gif ever again.

Everyone needs to see that gif.

It is nothing short of LEGENDARY!!!!

Heck, I'm posting it again!

Mod edit: I have already told people numerous times about this gig.
 
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Stop you're undoing all of John's hype speeches

I'll spiral back

I want to bo-lieeeeeve
BO-LIEEEEVVVEEEEE!!!!
BO-LIEEEEVVVEEEEE in Ridley, and he will BO-LIEEEEVVVEEEEEE in you!!!!

We must do this, if we are to fulfill the great wishes of Lord Ridley, THE CUNNING GOD OF DEATH!!!

After all, without his vision of a more perfect future with the destruction of the Galactic Federation, how does his reign of terror really stand a chance=????
 

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Sakurai would have to bring a newcomer this August...and by newcomer, I mean RIDLEY.
The game is arriving very soon (at least for Japan).

In all honesty, I have never seen someone teasing like Sakurai...Ever since August last year, he has never shown us any information about the Pyrosphere or about the Space Pirate Dragon we know and love: RIDLEY.

It's now almost a year since Sakurai posted that POTD of Pyrosphere and that notorious quote: "...Any enemy from Samus's past may appear at any second".


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah...from that quote, I can understand this:
Ridley would appear as a playable character...only at a later date.

Ridley's appearance in Smash Bros 4 AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER would be an overwhelming achievment for Sakurai that he could make the impossible possible...Yes, I am referring to that Nintendo Power Interview
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/66789493

I am not a game designer, nor I have the qualifications to be one and I know that game designing and programming is very difficult and taxing especially with Sakurai's shoulder condition....and I do not want to have Sakurai overexert himself....but my wish---along with everyone in this thread--- is to see the Space Dragon Ridley fight and be recognized as an icon in the Metroid series by including him in the playable character roster.

THE SCALY PURPLE PIRATE APPEARED IN ALMOST ALL METROID GAMES! It's about time he gets more recognition.
 

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Hmm...

You know, sometime before Robin's reveal, the number of Robin supporters began to drastically increase. More and more people began to think that he/she would be a great (and actually possible) addition to the Smash roster. And what do you know, Robin was confirmed against all odds. I wonder if something similar is happening here with Ridley...
About 2 days before Robin was confirmed I had a conversation with someone where we talked about the situation.

We all knew Gematsu was real, but possibly outdated, which ironically we discussed (although it was about Marshall vs. the 3 Chorus Men rather than Chrom vs. Robin).

At one point during our talks about Robin, the guy I had a conversation with said "you know what? Robin is a great idea, but it'll never happen. Chrom is too popular. I would love to be wrong, but I don't see how I'm not. There's no realistic reason Robin should be behind only K. Rool and Ridley in terms of post count on Smash Boards. Just no way. It's a terrible reality, but it's a reality."

I didn't say anything reasonably better with Robin's chances (I said we might get both). However, I did agree that Robin would be fantastic.

Boy were we glad to be wrong and see the floodgates of original and entertaining characters open up!!!!

Now I just gotta get him on team optimism that Ridley and K. Rool are happening.

====

So far we've gotten highly requested characters in The Villager, Mega Man, Little Mac, Miis, Palutena, and Pac-Man.

I would say those were 6 of the 10 most requested (there's a difference between "request" and "expected", and honestly, Chrom, like Zoroark, fell into the "expected" category a lot) potential new playable characters, along with Ridley, K. Rool, Shulk, and Dixie Kong.

Rosalina, Robin, and Lucina also had support that wasn't too far behind. Heck, I could argue Robin was right in there with them.

Lucina was actually more requested in Japan than Chrom, while Robin wasn't far behind. From what I gathered on SWF before Chrom's reveal (when preparing for the then inevitable Chrom reveal), Robin was actually requested more here than Chrom.

It's funny, because we get mad at "the general Smash Bros. fans" for supporting less inspired characters, but honestly, Smash Bros. fans usually want some pretty freaking unique characters that are pretty obvious.

I mean, it doesn't take a game developer to figure out that Ridley in Smash would be freaking fantastic, and would be something we've never seen before.
 

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Ridley never had a statue, you're thinking of the Gold Torizo. :awesome:



Here's an argument I've seen before:
"Believe me, I have a LOT of reasons that aren't as common as the big issue. I have a good example. And that is him being kinda like Bowser and Charizard, moveset-wise. He's use his claws, tail, fire breath and probably his wings. We don't need a 3rd fire-breathing reptile in this game. King K. Rool's a better choice than Ridley (I never at all hate the idea of him since he could be a good character addition)."

At least the "too big" thing doesn't seem as that much of a problem too this person, but.......The ratio of Swordsmen to reptiles that breath fire.......
The swordsmen we already have + Shulk, but three fire breathing reptiles... nope. The latter's far too much compared to the former.

Guys, I gotta say something personal (this is mainly to the vets of the Ridley forum since pre-Brawl days). Does this feeling of Ridley's inclusion feel different from the pre-Brawl days, or does it feel like the same thing?
Depending on one's pov, it could feel the same or different. For me the feeling of his inclusion is a bit different now though compared to back then.

Nevertheless, it remains tiresome dealing with this calm before the storm crap, people's misplaced faith in things like Corocoro on revealing Ridley's status/the rest of the roster, etc., which is part of why I've taken more of a break on speculation lately; just let the real days of reckoning come already!



(A Miiverse pic I found that was surprisingly relevant to my current feelings)
 

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Just woke up and 42 alerts! You guys don't suprise me...Anyway, to the people who claim they will play loud music, Ridley's theme: Then the detractors would know and get annoyed, if they ask for you to stop being hyped about it for Ridley's slim chance or something, say that the hype is too big!
 

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You know, I think that statue always hurt the Space Pirates on an organizational level. Any time someone had to deliver something to Mother Brain...

"Sorry, Ridley, Mother Brain really needs this baby Metroid. I've got to blast you to smithereens. Hey, don't blame me, boss. I wasn't the idiot who tied our door to your vital signs."

The swordsmen we already have + Shulk, but three fire breathing reptiles... nope. The latter's far too much compared to the former.
Why is it always +Shulk? It's +Isaac, damnit.
The rest of this section has been cut due to unnecessary and off topic rage.

Depending on one's pov, it could feel the same or different. For me the feeling of his inclusion is a bit different now though compared to back then.

Nevertheless, it remains tiresome dealing with this calm before the storm crap, people's misplaced faith in things like Corocoro on revealing Ridley's status/the rest of the roster, etc., which is part of why I've taken more of a break on speculation lately; just let the real days of reckoning come already!



(A Miiverse pic I found that was surprisingly relevant to my current feelings)
Why a Titan? Why not Kraid?
 

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The amount of people that'll rub this reveal in Shokio's face will be off the charts.

Let's hope it's not the other way around.
 

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Okay, I usually don't tell people what to do, but I need to make an exception.

Please.

For the love of God.

Never, never, NEVERRRRRRR put the spoiler tags on that gif ever again.

Everyone needs to see that gif.

It is nothing short of LEGENDARY!!!!

Heck, I'm posting it again!
Except I'm the one who told people to not post or spam this without spoilers. People complained in the past when this was posted every page (and repeatedly quoted) that it made them sick, and gave people with epileptic conditions headaches.
 

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so where is the evidence that convinced so many ppl? not questioning just want to read
 

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I have another question to spite people who think Ridley would look silly in SSB4, when/if Ridley is announced to be playable, what silly things are you going to do just 'cause you can?

First, I'm gonna just throw items at foes as Ridley and not fight seriously.
Secondly, I'm going to fight against the villager (and lose.)
And finally, I'm going play Ridley as a pokemon trainer.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO?

(Incidentally, I'm need to practice my ridley voice)
 

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Please Smashboards Ridley Thread, stop!!! Your giving me these...thoughts...these emotions...what are these of which I haven't experienced before...?

Anticipation?

Hope?

HYPE?!


N-no, I can't! I must be pessimistic! I must be a debbie downer! Negativity has always seen me through...!


And yet, what are these feelings I have right now? That the clouds may lift? That the rain may stop? That the bells may sound?


I don't understand...I'm scared of this encroaching...


this engulfing tiny bit of...


"Optimism"

:scared:


 

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I have another question to spite people who think Ridley would look silly in SSB4, when/if Ridley is announced to be playable, what silly things are you going to do just 'cause you can?

First, I'm gonna just throw items at foes as Ridley and not fight seriously.
Secondly, I'm going to fight against the villager (and lose.)
And finally, I'm going play Ridley as a pokemon trainer.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO?

(Incidentally, I'm need to practice my ridley voice)
Buuny hood tanooki leaf all the way!
 

DeadlyLampshade

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I'll also make a camcorder machinima where Ridley goes back in time to stop Obama.

No matter how serious they make Ridley, if RIDLEY is announced for SSB4, I'm making his appearance silly.
 

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Buuny hood tanooki leaf all the way!
Is that even possible? Wouldn't you have like 2 sets of ears?

I'd think they'd make them mutually exclusive items: you won't be able to have both on at the same time. But you never know, it may be possible.

As for what I'll do with Ridley first off, I'm probably gonna spam all his specials, then all his standards, then all his grabs and throws, all in sequence, just to piss off whoever I'm playing against.
 
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Is that even possible? Wouldn't you have like 2 sets of ears?

I'd think they'd make them mutually exclusive items: you won't be able to have both on at the same time. But you never know, it may be possible.

As for what I'll do with Ridley first off, I'm probably gonna spam all his specials, then all his standards, then all his grabs and throws, all in sequence, just to piss off whoever I'm playing against.
in that case, 4 Ridleys and all of them are armed with Lip's sticks bunny hoods or tanooki leaves, mini mushrooms and will constantly taunt for 5 minutes after someone dies
 

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Please Smashboards Ridley Thread, stop!!! Your giving me these...thoughts...these emotions...what are these of which I haven't experienced before...?

Anticipation?

Hope?

HYPE?!


N-no, I can't! I must be pessimistic! I must be a debbie downer! Negativity has always seen me through...!


And yet, what are these feelings I have right now? That the clouds may lift? That the rain may stop? That the bells may sound?


I don't understand...I'm scared of this encroaching...


this engulfing tiny bit of...


"Optimism"

:scared:


I lived this disbelief feel for my most wanted and a little time for Ridley, but that was a few days before my tease happened and it convinced me for Ridley.

That's an annoying side effect of teasing if you really want the character. It's like there's a lot of reasons to hype, but since it's unsure, it's really scary to do it if you weren't right. It's sort of safe sceptimism, but it's still grudging your emotions so it can become worries and maybe obsession (mine got there). You would then just want a direct to finish with this like me.

But really, it's kinda annoying to have my 2 most wanted under teasing because of being scared to hype for both getting in. I might actually take a long time to believe if it even happens, but the most crazy thing about this is it could.

Let's hope for a direct soon so it will be settled quickly :)
 

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Honestly, I can easily imagine August 20 being a day in which Sakurai doesn't even acknowledge the Pyrosphere and Ridley's teasing anniversary. He's just that kind of person.
I don't think Sakurai even keeps check on dates he revealed past stuff, so I'm definitely not expecting anything relating to Pyrosphere or Ridley on the 20th at all. I feel like those expectations have sky-rocketed way past what's reasonable honestly, and when we finally hit the 20th and there's nothing in relation to Ridley people will interpret it as a tease. I think the Smash fanbase keeps check on way too many dates to begin with honestly: european releases, anniversaries for obscure games, and now anniversaries of PotDs, I doubt Sakurai has a list for all that.

I will however say that I do believe we'll see Ridley sooner than we might think anyways. As we know Sakurai is beginning to write sections about stages, and not only 3DS stage, but also Wii U stages, and we're likely to get a couple more of those before release imo as there are many known stages that aren't detailed yet on both versions. Sooner or later Sakurai will have to write about Pyrosphere considering it's been one of the primary stages in PotDs and one of the earliest revealed ones, and if Ridley's role isn't revealed at that point he'll hit a brick wall where he'll either have to confirm or disconfirm him, depending on his actual role. Remember that those pages are going to stay up and be relevant until the next Smash game comes around, so there's no room for anymore teasing, they have to be as direct and informative as possible, if there's no information regarding Ridley in Pyrosphere's section he is practically confirmed as a playable character. Therefore if Ridley is a character I suspect he'll be our next newcomer, and if he isn't we're going to see him disconfirmed soon, they simply can't wait much longer. Likewise if he isn't our next newcomer I'll begin being pretty damn worried about him, not only because of the stages pages, but also because I don't see Sakurai leaving Ridley's role to be found by fans, he's going to reveal him formally somehow.
 
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I don't think Sakurai even keeps check on dates he revealed past stuff, so I'm definitely not expecting anything relating to Pyrosphere or Ridley on the 20th at all. I feel like those expectations have sky-rocketed way past what's reasonable honestly, and when we finally hit the 20th and there's nothing in relation to Ridley people will interpret it as a tease. I think the Smash fanbase keeps check on way too many dates to begin with honestly: european releases, anniversaries for obscure games, and now anniversaries of PotDs, I doubt Sakurai has a list for all that.

I will however say that I do believe we'll see Ridley sooner than we might think anyways. As we know Sakurai is beginning to write sections about stages, and not only 3DS stage, but also Wii U stages, and we're likely to get a couple more of those before release imo as there are many known stages that aren't detailed yet on both versions. Sooner or later Sakurai will have to write about Pyrosphere considering it's been one of the primary stages in PotDs and one of the earliest revealed ones, and if Ridley's role isn't revealed at that point he'll hit a brick wall where he'll either have to confirm or disconfirm him, depending on his actual role. Remember that those pages are going to stay up and be relevant until the next Smash game comes around, so there's no room for anymore teasing, they have to be as direct and informative as possible, if there's no information regarding Ridley in Pyrosphere's section he is practically confirmed as a playable character. Therefore if Ridley is a character I suspect he'll be our next newcomer, and if he isn't we're going to see him disconfirmed soon, they simply can't wait much longer. Likewise if he isn't our next newcomer I'll begin being pretty damn worried about him, not only because of the stages pages, but also because I don't see Sakurai leaving Ridley's role to be found by fans, he's going to reveal him formally somehow.
Little Mac, C.Falcon and the FE newcomers want a word
 

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The game will likely be out already when Sakurai post anything about the Pyrosphere in the official site. Either way, if Ridley is a boss/hazard, I really doubt he will be exclusive to one version, so we will know when the 3DS version is out in thirty days. By the way, I must say the fact they didn't announce the 3DS Metroid stage is a shady as ignoring the Pyrosphere in demos, etc.

I agree with Lizardon, though. I can see Sakurai completely ignoring August 20, so I am not really setting myself up to a Ridley reveal on that day. I am, though, confident that he will be announced in August or early September at most. As a playable character, of course.
 
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