Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Wise Multishine]

Guys, if we happen to get a Nintendo Direct announced for Tuesday, and it turns out that according to leaks from Corocoro magazine, that the boss hazard for Pyrosphere is something else entirely like Vorash or Rhedogian...I'm going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

I mean, if Nintendo tried to keep everything hush-hush about Ridley's role and yet somehow, the info they tried to keep secret still managed to creep into the internet...It just sounds too good to be true. But even then, I can expect Sakurai to pull off such an unexpected twist.

I've always made it a point to never expect anything from Sakurai, so I don't get disappointed. That being said, he knows what he's doing....most of the time.

Also. Nintendo probably wrote every single word that Corocoro has in their Smash news.

 

[Jeanne]

Spoiler: EDIT: Damn, shoulda read the whole page...

That should do for my stupidity for now.

Guh yes.. I love you Ridley, Speculating for you and your moveset is alot of fun and all but... Yesssssss Grininja is playabllleeee. So excited for this game. Are you guys excited for this game? But most importantly, is Ridley excited for this game?

 

[liets]

according to leaks from Corocoro magazine, that the boss hazard for Pyrosphere is something else entirely like Vorash or Rhedogian...I'm going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

Plot twist: the stage boss is Metroid Prime

 

[NintenRob]

I beat Metroid Fusion, I really enjoyed it.

The Ridley fight was pretty fun

 

[WayfaringElf]

Plot twist: the stage boss is Metroid Prime

Confirmed as assist trophy. Ridley is the stage boss. Generic space pirate is the character.

 

[BlueBubbee]

Guys, if we happen to get a Nintendo Direct announced for Tuesday, and it turns out that according to leaks from Corocoro magazine, that the boss hazard for Pyrosphere is something else entirely like Vorash or Rhedogian...I'm going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

What if, when the time to reveal the Pyrosphere comes, Sakurai says "And here is the stage boss of the Pyrosphere. It's Ridley! We showed his shadow to you a few months back, and now here he is in full!" And the camera pans up into the air and suddenly

Wind-Up Ridley.
​

 

[AlexTLW]

I always wondered where The Moon was in Majora's Mask before 72 hours.

Like 34 days out, where would it be=???

Also, here's a slightly related question: how BIG is Ridley compared to The Moon=???

The moon from majoras mask? sounds like a nice guy.

 

[BrigadeStuart]

Confirmed as assist trophy. Ridley is the stage boss. Generic space pirate is the character.

"Metroid Prime" as in this

Spoiler

Edit: it was all a joke :0 i didnt understand it until someone pointed it out. well..ignore this comment i guess...woosh

 

[WayfaringElf]

I doubt we're getting a fake out for stage hazardly, we're probably just goin gto get a trailer with Ridley in it with no reference to hazardly.

 

[Phaazoid]

What if, when the time to reveal the Pyrosphere comes, Sakurai says "And here is the stage boss of the Pyrosphere. It's Ridley! We showed his shadow to you a few months back, and now here he is in full!" And the camera pans up into the air and suddenly

Wind-Up Ridley.
​

I would actually love for there to be some reference to this Ridley in the game. That'd be cool.

 

[WayfaringElf]

I'm about to link a detractor to the second post, brace yourselves.

 

[IsmaR]

"Metroid Prime" as in this

It was a joke.

 

[BlueBubbee]

I would actually love for there to be some reference to this Ridley in the game. That'd be cool.

My vote is on Assist Trophy. I actually think that'd be a cool idea, there could be a lot of stuff Sakurai could do with him.

It's more likely for just a regular trophy if anything, though.

 

[liets]

"Metroid Prime" as in this

I actually meant this:

Spoiler

You may want to spoiler you're picture so as not to spoil anything for people who haven't played it yet

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm about to link a detractor to the second post, brace yourselves.

Be gentle everyone. We haven't handled the last few detractors particularly well. IsmaR hates dealing with us as it is (or at least I would expect)

 

[BrigadeStuart]

It was a joke.

oh, my mistake :0

I actually meant this:

Spoiler

You may want to spoiler you're picture so as not to spoil anything for people who haven't played it yet

that game is like over 10 years old right? im pretty sure its okay to spoil stuff "spoilers the picture anyway", in fact, darth vader is lukes father everyone! ok back to ridley

 

[Reila]

"Metroid Prime" as in this

Eh...

Spoiler: spoilers, duh

Metroid Prime is already in the game as Dark Samus.

Why not put some other Metroid boss in the game instead.

 

[Phaazoid]

Best Metroid stage boss is Kraid imo

it's such an obvious choice that it was already kinda done in melee

Why they would use Ridley as a stage boss when they have Kraid is beyond me.

 

[Reila]

Best Metroid stage boss is Kraid imo

it's such an obvious choice that it was already kinda done in melee

Why they would use Ridley as a stage boss when they have Kraid is beyond me.

Quadraxis > Kraid

kthxbai

 

[liets]

Eh...

Spoiler: spoilers, duh

Metroid Prime is already in the game as Dark Samus.

Why not put some other Metroid boss in the game instead.

Spoiler

isn't dark samus just a new entity created through the phazon though?

 

[Reila]

Spoiler

isn't dark samus just a new entity created through the phazon though?

Spoiler

It is uncertain. They are widely considered the same being among the Metroid community, tho.

 

[Phaazoid]

Quadraxis > Kraid

kthxbai

I mean stage bosses that lend themselves towards representation in smash.

Although I would kill for a stage from the Quadraxis area just because I love that color scheme so much. so much.

 

[liets]

Spoiler

It is uncertain. They are widely considered the same being among the Metroid community, tho.

Hm. Interesting. GG, story of the Prime Trilogy.

 

[BrigadeStuart]

Eh...

Spoiler: spoilers, duh

Metroid Prime is already in the game as Dark Samus.

Why not put some other Metroid boss in the game instead.

oh now i understand the joke!

 

[Mansana]

Best Metroid stage boss is Kraid imo

it's such an obvious choice that it was already kinda done in melee

Why they would use Ridley as a stage boss when they have Kraid is beyond me.

The day where we start support threads for assist trophies and boss stage hazards...

 

[TheNerdyOne_]

My vote is on Assist Trophy. I actually think that'd be a cool idea, there could be a lot of stuff Sakurai could do with him.

It's more likely for just a regular trophy if anything, though.

A Nintendoland travelling stage would be pretty cool. I can imagine it's announcement now:

"Pic of the day. I know many fans have been waiting for news on a certain space dragon, so I am happy to announce that he will indeed be appearing as a boss..."
[picture of Ridley's shadow on Pyrosphere]

"...on the new Nintendoland stage!"
[picture of Ridley on the Nintendoland stage]

 

[Reila]

I mean stage bosses that lend themselves towards representation in smash.

Although I would kill for a stage from the Quadraxis area just because I love that color scheme so much. so much.

I see. I think Quadraxis would be a great boss in Smash, I am just not sure how it would work as a boss in a 2D plane. It would probably stay in the background like Kraid in Melee, I suppose. Oh well, it is not like Quadraxis has any chances of appearing in Smash anyway. Hopefully Brinstar is back in the Wii U version, because I want to see Kraid in HD and I don't want that stage on the 3DS version.

 

[BlueBubbee]

Spoiler

isn't dark samus just a new entity created through the phazon though?

Spoiler

It is uncertain. They are widely considered the same being among the Metroid community, tho.

Spoiler

Every time I see text in a spoiler like this, I read it to myself in a whisper.

 

[Phaazoid]

I see. I think Quadraxis would be a great boss in Smash, I am just not sure how it would work as a boss in a 2D plane. It would probably stay in the background like Kraid in Melee, I suppose. Oh well, it is not like Quadraxis has any chances of appearing in Smash anyway. Hopefully Brinstar is back in the Wii U version, because I want to see Kraid in HD and I don't want that stage on the 3DS version.

Yeah the problem with Quadraxis in smash is he's too big the fun part about fighting him flowed around with the 3D space. I'm not explaining this well as I have a head cold and can't think. But Kraid flips the stage like a table and all they'd have to do is give him a hitbox and make him explode and they're set xD

I would love to see HD brinstar depths though. And I can't wait to see my HD Ridley. someday...

 

[Jeanne]

I see. I think Quadraxis would be a great boss in Smash, I am just not sure how it would work as a boss in a 2D plane. It would probably stay in the background like Kraid in Melee, I suppose. Oh well, it is not like Quadraxis has any chances of appearing in Smash anyway. Hopefully Brinstar is back in the Wii U version, because I want to see Kraid in HD and I don't want that stage on the 3DS version.

Brinstar Depths is my absolute favorite stage in the entire Smash series. What an uncomfortable place to hold a battle, what awesome music, what an awesome challenge with Samus fighting 3 metal Samus'. I am still holding my breath for this stage to be given to us in this title.

 

[Johnknight1]

It was a joke.

Jokes are too small and feeble for Ridley.

So is manslaughter.

Nope, the only things not to small for Ridley are:
1. Genocide
2. More Genocide
3. Ethnic/Species Cleansing
4. Samus
5. Pyrosphere
6. Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU
7. Genocide in Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU

 

[Phaazoid]

Jokes are too small and feeble for Ridley.

So is manslaughter.

Nope, the only things not to small for Ridley are:
1. Genocide
2. More Genocide
3. Ethnic/Species Cleansing
4. Samus
5. Pyrosphere
6. Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU
7. Genocide in Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU

you forgot dead parents

lots and lots of dead parents

 

[Johnknight1]

you forgot dead parents

lots and lots of dead parents

MORE!
MORE!

 

[Snagrio]

Mii: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Villager: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Pac-Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Mega Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.

Ridley: Boss in Brawl. The most heavily teased character for Smash 4.

 

[Reila]

Mii: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Villager: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Pac-Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Mega Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.

Ridley: Boss in Brawl. The most heavily teased character for Smash 4.

Every rule has an exception, though... Lets hope Ridley isn't said exception

 

[Phaazoid]

Every rule has an exception, though... Lets hope Ridley isn't said exception

Death, taxes, and Ridley

MORE!
MORE!

I would normally have a witty response to escalate this further but my head cold is winning... I think I'm gonna hit the sack xD

 

[liets]

Mii: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Villager: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Pac-Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.
Mega Man: Considered for Brawl, but passed over. Now playable in Smash 4.

Ridley: Boss in Brawl. The most heavily teased character for Smash 4.

Didn't Sakurai once say that he never considered Mega Man before this installment?

 

[AuraShaman]

Then play on whatever Metroid stage the 3DS version gets? Ton of other choices, even ones having to do with Ridley.

I could at the very least see either one of the past Metroid stages returning. Norfair would obviously make a good home stage.



A couple of us have already thrown out the idea that he'd use his tail like a scorpion. At the very least, I could see him having his classic "whiptail" attack from the 2D games, along with some long tail sweeps ala Prime and Other M.

Dude, I always thought a tail attack would be the BEST as his Bair! It's always stuck in my mind that the tip would be an excellent sweetspot.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

But what about the rest of you guys?

Other M Ridley or Ridley/Other M Ridley hybrid design. And that is what we will, without any doubts, get in this game. The only part of the concept art Ridley i like is his arms, wings and tail, but everything else is...not Ridley enough for me.

Ridley...Charizard's clone?! Not only this is impossible since he has different proportions and abilities of course (no flare bits or rock smash), but why would it happen? Attacks from Other M is already enough to make him something more than a semi-clone (charged fire breath for either Neutral B or Down B, claw swipe attack as dash attack, tail swipe as either crouching attack, side a or side smash, that grab attack as Side B, that aerial tail attack as aerial down A, etc). If we will say that someone is a clone just because he looks slightly similar, then everyone with a sword is Link's clone, Rosalina is Peach's clone, Lucario is Mewtwo's clone (everyone who says that he IS a clone is either an idiot or forgot about Lucario's actual moveset except for its Neutral B), Jigglypuff is Kirby's clone, etc. But they are not.

That "giant hurtboxes/large character = bad character" thing is stupid too. Not all large characters are bad. True Ogre was bad in one of the Tekken games, but then became better. Biollante isn't one of the worst characters in Godzilla Unleashed and she is THE biggest character, 2X (or even more, i don't remember how big she was, but omg, she is giant) bigger than Godzilla. That Iron Tager guy is the biggest character and while he is still one of the worst (not THE worst character), he can deal real SOVIET damage in 1 combo if done right (at least 50% of the health bar will get removed after that, maybe even more). Feral Chaos is not the best character in his game, but he is hard to beat and he is bigger than anyone in the game (the only one who doesn't looks really small compared to him is Golbez, but that guy is as big or even bigger than Ganondorf). DK was the biggest character in SSB64, but he wasn't the worst (Samus was...unfortunately). Also, there is the friggin' AZAZEL, from Tekken. He is THE BIGGEST Tekken character. And guess how good he is? Yeah, he is a boss character that CAN be unlocked in one of the versions of the game.

He is crouching here or at least not standing straight like a human or at least like a T.rex in old images. He also looks like Ridley.
And that is all i remember. So, its not like those are the only large characters in fighting games that are not bad. They are the only large characters i remember. Character in a fighting game can be bad not just because of how large he is. Those bad large characters are bad because of something else too, like attack speed, range of attacks, damage, lack of projectiles, etc. There is no bad characters that are bad ONLY because they are big targets.

You could say the same thing about Ganondorf (minus the last sentence), and look what happened to him.

He was unlucky enough to be included during Melee's development. At that time, they were adding more clones to just have more characters done is less time. He also became C.Falcon's clone because they have similar proportions (a manly man...Ganondorf isn't as manly as C.Falcon of course because that is impossible) Now they won't have to worry about that. Just look how many clones we had in Melee, how many newcommers were clones was in Brawl and how many newcommers are clones in this game. It is obvious that there will be less clones and maybe someone will finally be de-cloned.

I've always found it ironic/funny that Dialga in the anime shares/reuses the same "roar" that Meta Ridley has in Metroid Prime.

It is actually a generic roar used by most T.rexes and large hungry dinosaurs. And of course by a lot of monsters.

Give this man an Emmy.

...What? Am i supposed to get that award for all i have done for Ridley and stuff like that or..?

Captain Falcon is too awesome to be a starter. His unlock requirements should be to defeat 3 Level 9 Fox's on stamina mode.

Final Destination, C.Falcon (player) and Foxes only, No items.

Beats Palkia getting the generic Godzilla enemy mash-up roar (mix of Ghidorah, Boga and Godzilla himself, if I recall correctly).

That reminds me of Super Metroid bosses, who use either Anguirus' and Titanosaurus' (i think) roars. A bit modified. Or at least those roars sound a lot like those guys'. Those roars were used by Phantoon, Draygon, Crocomire and Kraid (maybe someone else, i don't remember).

Welp, I was bored, so I borrowed a friend's copy of Other M since I have yet to play it. Time to finally see what all the fuss is about.

Good luck going through the game of death and suffering. Former one is mostly on the hard mode and latter one is because of cutscenes. At least gameplay is good...but nooooo, everyone says its a bad game...even though as a game, its good enough to be better than Metroid 2 and Prime Hunters.

Oh boy. I'd recommend playing it on the hardest difficulty if you want to actually enjoy it. It's very rewarding.

And Ridley fight becomes pretty epic and awesome. And very hard since he can kill Samus in one hit with most of his attacks.

Also, here's a slightly related question: how BIG is Ridley compared to The Moon=???

He is BIGGER THAN BOTH GALACTUS AND UNICRON. That is how too big he is. At least according to toobigots.
Serious answer: he is at least 10x smaller than the Moon. If that Moon is the REAL moon, then he is at least 10000x smaller than this moon.

Plot twist: the stage boss is Metroid Prime

Another plot twist: the stage IS the boss.

Wow...that's a lot of fish text...

 

[DarkFalcon]

It's time to be terrified again about every PoTD Sakurai does. I'm pretty confident Ridley is playable...but I can't imagine the sinking feeling I'd get if I saw him deconfirmed as a stage boss in a PoTD.