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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

Jeanne

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Regarding which design of Ridley we'll get, I think the Other M Ridley might work well. One of the main things I had trouble with when thinking of this idea was how awkwardly skinny Super Metroid/Brawl Ridley's neck was. Comparing it to the Other M Ridley, (or Roidley as you guys call him :p), that design would be awkward to rescale. Ridley (Other M) bears a clear humanoid shape, which might work in Smash if resized.

However, I'm often struggling to find a move set for Ridley... :( I know the fireballs would work as a Neutral Special, and he can fly with an Up Special, I'm just not sure how to make him unique without Charizard coming to mind.:4charizard: Maybe I'll let Sakurai deal with movesets. If he can make a moveset for these characters: :4pacman::4wiifit::gw::rob::4greninja::4falcon:, Surely he'd make a really good Ridley in Smash 4.
I feel like people should really watch video footage of Firebrand from Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 to get some ideas of just how versatile Ridley could be as a fighter.

 
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Though WHO THREW ALL OF THOSE POKEBALLS IN THE FIRST PLACE??
...SAKURAI!!!!
Update Pic of the Day:

"Looks like little one must have missed Waluigi. Perhaps he will get to see him another day."




"Meanwhile.."



"It is certainly Raymans lucky day! A collectible trophy was actually visited by our little friend! Be sure to look out for many other inclusions in our trophy library."
Heh...gory violence in the morning...what could be better for your brain than that?..oh...right...Ridley revealed as a playable character.

However, I'm often struggling to find a move set for Ridley... :( I know the fireballs would work as a Neutral Special, and he can fly with an Up Special, I'm just not sure how to make him unique without Charizard coming to mind.:4charizard:
Well, Ridley can easily be done in such way he will not be too similar to Charizard. Just look at what Super Smash Bros Crusade did (especially for next demo). It doesn't feels too much like Charizard. Also, Charizard rarely uses his tail and claws. So, it already makes it easier to create moveset that won't make Ridley feel like Charizard.
 
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Regarding which design of Ridley we'll get, I think the Other M Ridley might work well. One of the main things I had trouble with when thinking of this idea was how awkwardly skinny Super Metroid/Brawl Ridley's neck was. Comparing it to the Other M Ridley, (or Roidley as you guys call him :p), that design would be awkward to rescale. Ridley (Other M) bears a clear humanoid shape, which might work in Smash if resized.

However, I'm often struggling to find a move set for Ridley... :( I know the fireballs would work as a Neutral Special, and he can fly with an Up Special, I'm just not sure how to make him unique without Charizard coming to mind.:4charizard: Maybe I'll let Sakurai deal with movesets. If he can make a moveset for these characters: :4pacman::4wiifit::gw::rob::4greninja::4falcon:, Surely he'd make a really good Ridley in Smash 4.
Don't forget :4mii:, with character movesets made completely from scratch; like :4falcon:.
 

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I always thought Fox's moveset was really imaginative too. I mean. They gave him "Dragonball Z" as his recovery.

I have no doubt that Sakurai will do Ridley justice.
Hehe...that comment made me remember when I played the first Smash bros on the N64....I used to say that his recovery was a fire fart......don't kill me...I was new to smash at that time....and way younger.

Yeah, Sakurai will do him justice....and if not, the fact that he's playable is enough justice...after many years...
 

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I always thought Fox's moveset was really imaginative too. I mean. They gave him "Dragonball Z" as his recovery.

I have no doubt that Sakurai will do Ridley justice.
...:substitute:
Kamekameha as Neutral B
Shoryuken as Up B
Shun Goku Satsu as Side B
Falcon Kick as Down B
IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR as Final Smash
What? Its kinda like what Captain Falcon's moveset is compared to what he can actually do.
 
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I saw some chatter about movesets. Obligatory re-posting of my moveset

Neutral B: Plasma Scatter:
Ridley shoots a fireball from his mouth that moves over a randomly selected trajectory with low damage. Holding down the button makes him charge the attack. A half-charged Plasma Scatter causes him to spit out five fireballs, all shooting out in different trajectories. A fully charged Plasma Scatter causes him to launch a large ball of plasma in front of him (diagonally downward in the air). Any fireball that hits the ground or a platform will cause a small fire to burn for about 2 seconds or until an enemy touches it.

Side B: Killer Claw:
Ridley reels back and lunges forward. If he makes contact with a foe within a certain distance, he will grab them. If used in the air, he will grab diagonally out below himself. From here, he can use a Direction and the B button to do a few different things including bite the enemy and throw them in four directions. However, each throw behaves differently.
--Forward throw - Ridley claws the foe with his free hand.
--Back throw - Throws the foe away behind himself.
--Up throw - Ridley blasts the foe with plasma, sending them off at an upward angle.
--Down throw- On the ground, Ridley drags the foe across the ground before tossing the forward. In the air, Ridley flies up and then comes crashing down, slamming the foe into the ground. It's very possible to SD while dragging the foe down with him.
If he grabs an enemy in the air, Ridley can still jump while holding them.

Up B: Flight:
Obvious enough, Ridley crouches and then pushes himself up into the air. Not meant to be an actual damaging move, the only hitbox is when Ridley leaps up, knocking enemies up with him. When used in the air, this move acts differently, he flaps his wings and ascends into the air. As he goes up, he creates a gust of wind beneath him, which is capable of pushing opponents downwards in the air. He can use normal and special attacks while in flight. This special move does not put him into a helpless state.

Down B: Terrify:
Ridley will inhale sharply then let out a terrifying roar, briefly surrounding himself with a shock-wave. If it hits an enemy while they're on the ground, it will paralyze them. The time stunned is relevant to the amount of damage they have. If it hits an airborne enemy, it will force them into a tumbling state. Foes can still recover after this attack though.

Final Smash: Adaptation:
Ridley roars and his skin darkens. In this state, he gains super armor and reflects projectiles off his body for a short time. As the FS comes to an end, Ridley expels his hardened skin in a shock wave surrounding himself. (Only Samus' Super Missile can break this FS, but unfortunately Adam hasn't authorized that to happen.)

Jab: Downward claw swipe, mirrored for second jab.
Dash: Ridley lunges and swings his claws in a downward arc.
F-tilt: Ridley does a one-handed claw swipe in front of himself.
U-Tilt: Ridley snaps his jaws upward.
D-tilt: Ridley jabs his tail forward, stabbing the ground in front of him. Long reach.

F-smash: Ridley swings his arm in an upward motion, juggling enemies up into the air in front of him.
--F-smash 2: Ridley lunges diagonally up, tackling juggled foes and putting himself airborne.*
U-smash: Ridley turns sideways and swings both hands above his head in a downward arc.
--U-smash 2: Ridley lunges straight up, tackling juggled foes and putting himself airborne.*
D-smash: Ridley spins in place, swinging his tail around him. This attack hits multiple times, dragging the foe along with the motion of the tail before tossing them up and away from Ridley.
--D-smash 2: Ridley lunges up after tossed foes, putting himself airborne.*
(*The second part each Smash attack can only be used if the attack hits something.)

N-Air: A general claw swipe
F-air: Ridley does a double-handed swipe in a downward motion. Meteor smash.
B-air: Ridley kicks back with his leg, turning himself to face behind him. Changes Ridley's facing.
U-air: Ridley does a front-flip, swiping his tail upwards followed by his talons.
D-air: Ridley stabs downward with his tail.

Grab/Pummel: Ridley grabs the enemy/Ridley bites the enemy
F-throw: Throws the foe up and forward into the air
B-throw: Basic backhanded throw up into the air
U-throw: Lifts foe above his head them skewers them with his tail
D-throw: Slam the foe onto the ground then hit them with a blast of fire
 

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Really, Ridley is one of those characters that really shouldn't take much effort to come up with a moveset. Just fight him in Super Metroid. He can fly, spit fire, ram at you, grab you, block projectiles with his tail and attacking you with it.

And these features are often translated and even evolved in subsequent incarnations of Ridley, so those variations can be infused with his classic attacks to make these simple actions have potentially more depth to them than what one would think (or, at least, make up for cool alternate special attacks).

If one thinks Ridley has no moveset potential and that he'll end up being a clone, than they should at least play a Metroid game (besides Metroid 2, Prime 2 and Hunter)
 

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I feel like people should really watch video footage of Firebrand from Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 to get some ideas of just how versatile Ridley could be as a fighter.

Iwonder how many times that video have been posted in thi sthread? imposible to know, since the thread is gargantuan, but i know i did once : 3

if capcom could, why not sakurai?
 

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Hehe...that comment made me remember when I played the first Smash bros on the N64....I used to say that his recovery was a fire fart......don't kill me...I was new to smash at that time....and way younger.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that... Really... another mistake I made was thinking that Captain Falcon was saying 'WELCOME PUNCH!!" Though that was resolved quickly.
The other mistakes: Thinking Marth was Spanish, thinking that Mr. Game & Watch was a spy... Childhood...
 

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I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that... Really... another mistake I made was thinking that Captain Falcon was saying 'WELCOME PUNCH!!" Though that was resolved quickly.
The other mistakes: Thinking Marth was Spanish, thinking that Mr. Game & Watch was a spy... Childhood...
My favorite mistake is thinking Captain Falcon said "Falco Punch!", making Falco matches more amusing.
 

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Really, Ridley is one of those characters that really shouldn't take much effort to come up with a moveset. Just fight him in Super Metroid. He can fly, spit fire, ram at you, grab you, block projectiles with his tail and attacking you with it.

And these features are often translated and even evolved in subsequent incarnations of Ridley, so those variations can be infused with his classic attacks to make these simple actions have potentially more depth to them than what one would think (or, at least, make up for cool alternate special attacks).

If one thinks Ridley has no moveset potential and that he'll end up being a clone, than they should at least play a Metroid game (besides Metroid 2, Prime 2 and Hunter)
Metroid Other M is a better example of what he can do IMO.

Anyway, i don't understand those who think he will be Charizard clone. Then why isn't Ike and Robin Marth's clone? Or why villager isn't Mario or Ness clone?
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that... Really... another mistake I made was thinking that Captain Falcon was saying 'WELCOME PUNCH!!" Though that was resolved quickly.
The other mistakes: Thinking Marth was Spanish, thinking that Mr. Game & Watch was a spy... Childhood...
That is still not much compared to what i thought...Samus is a guy, Ridley is a pterosaur thing not from Metroid or even originan new character made for Brawl, Marth is not a guy (realized that he is after reading it in the wiki...in 2010...), Captain Falcon is the best character only because of his Falcon Punch, Pit can fly, etc. And that is only for SSB games. I once thought that Krystalak has diamonds on his back and not just crystals...oh...wait...there is less that 1% of users that know that guy here...then better example would be that i thought that you can unlock Ridley somehow...
And its not because there was no internet connection or something like that.
 
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Also @ IsmaR IsmaR if its not too much trouble can you add Ridley having a Z air were he lunges below him and grabs the enemy with his tail or feet and he can throw them in 4 directions, I think a good portion of the thread is in agreement with that idea as one of his unique abilities, unless I'am wrong in thinking that, then never mind :chuckle:
 

Waluigi is too big

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See! there BFF's! no one is getting hurt here, expect for samus and luigi.

Can only find a Ridley model for Gmod, but as soon as I get one for SMF these will be a lot better.
 

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I have a feeling we're getting a direct on the 20th.... that was the day Pyrosphere was revealed last year.
 

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See! there BFF's! no one is getting hurt here, expect for samus and luigi.

Can only find a Ridley model for Gmod, but as soon as I get one for SMF these will be a lot better.
This Roidley model looks horrible! And that is most likely its author's fault because model i got from Angelglory didn't looked like that.
...Waluigi looks kinda weird...what he is doing behid Ridley?..and how can he be bigger than the too biggest thing that has no chance in Sm4sh?
 
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Funny thing is, included in Roidley's model is a really screwed-up, really low-poly version of himself. That model there's definitely using a number of polygons from the low-poly half.

EDIT: If I had Gmod or knew how it worked, I'd send you my model or something
 
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Though WHO THREW ALL OF THOSE POKEBALLS IN THE FIRST PLACE??

Edit: It was Ridley guyz
Perhaps the better question is, where did he get those Pokéballs? Did anyone check their Pokébanks recently?

Ya saved me a lot of digging, ya did.

Mind if I use in the new OP?
Are you sure it's worth it? I mean, you're just going to have to rewrite it all when we get the reveal in a week or two anyway... :)
 

Waluigi is too big

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This Roidley model looks horrible! And that is most likely its author's fault because model i got from Angelglory didn't looked like that.
...Waluigi looks kinda weird...what he is doing behid Ridley?..and how can he be bigger than the too biggest thing that has no chance in Sm4sh?
I made it in 3 seconds to show I have a Ridley model.
 

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not sure if serious or not. all characters were decided in-development before X and Y came out lol
Asking nicely and showing interest can't exactly hurt, though. There's always DLC, and it could help Sakurai feel better about his awesome decision to include Ridley.
 

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Reminds me of this:

Samus: This isn't the Metroid Hatchling. This is an ordinary Metroid that's been beaten up, frozen slightly, soaked in a lava pit and kissed with Nebula Pink #24 Semi Gloss lipstick.

Roidley: Actualy, it's Nebula Pink Number-- *gets smacked into the ground by Ridley*
 
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Guys just calm down if gamescom is the biggest game convention (340,000 people where there last year) we should expect a major reveal.
 

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Also @ IsmaR IsmaR if its not too much trouble can you add Ridley having a Z air were he lunges below him and grabs the enemy with his tail or feet and he can throw them in 4 directions, I think a good portion of the thread is in agreement with that idea as one of his unique abilities, unless I'am wrong in thinking that, then never mind :chuckle:
I'll make a mental note, although I'd prefer any suggestions like these to be PM'd to make keeping track easier.




 

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Since the first one was popular, Ive decided to make #PrinceRidley a thing on Miiverse. Heres 2 more:

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKl7lG37nA


Our reaction when Ridley is confirmed.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqGNyx04jw


Princess Sakurai sees the familar glow of the Melee opening Ridley, and trusts him for A Whole New World of Smash
Stop...with the chest pains...and the tears...I just...

BTW, have you considered making a Beauty and the Beast parody with Ridley in there?
 
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