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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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To be fair, ZS Samus has appeared in more games than Ridley. She's also been playable in a couple.
 

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BOOP. Recolors.


Anywhosen, from what I've seen of Zamus in Sm4sh kinda makes her look Bayonetta-y... Which is neat... That's really the only thing I like about her... I would maybe even prefer Dark Samus over ZSS; unique, villain, ACTUALLY DEPICTED BEING ABLE TO DAMAGE SOMETHING.
i really love these alternate colors for ridley.

my favorites are the bottom three... dragon ridley, demon ridley, and... uh... albino ridley. :grin:
 
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To be fair, ZS Samus has appeared in more games than Ridley. She's also been playable in a couple.
...2-3 games only. 3 if there was ending with ZSS image (if that suit counts as that). 4 if we will count original Metroid AND its remake, but then we will count NES Ridley too. Samus just without power suit is not ZSS. Blue suit that she wears in Other M and Zero Mission is.
So, Ridley appeared in more games than ZSS. Samus appeared in more games that Ridley obviously, but not ZSS.

BOOP. Recolors.


Anywhosen, from what I've seen of Zamus in Sm4sh kinda makes her look Bayonetta-y... Which is neat... That's really the only thing I like about her... I would maybe even prefer Dark Samus over ZSS; unique, villain, ACTUALLY DEPICTED BEING ABLE TO DAMAGE SOMETHING.
I like Ridley-X and 2nd recolor more than other. Red one is worst.
 
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BOOP. Recolors.


Anywhosen, from what I've seen of Zamus in Sm4sh kinda makes her look Bayonetta-y... Which is neat... That's really the only thing I like about her... I would maybe even prefer Dark Samus over ZSS; unique, villain, ACTUALLY DEPICTED BEING ABLE TO DAMAGE SOMETHING.
The white Ridley look like that dragon from Yu-Gi-Oh...:troll:
 

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I'm willing to wager that Sakurai definitely has a trick up his sleeve now.
Seriously, putting Prince Sable and Takamaru as Assist Trophies means he at least KNOWS what the fans want.
Take a Character a big group wants, make them an Assist Trophy to please them, and maybe upgrade them to a Character the next game if they have more potential.
At least they're in the game in more than a Sticker/Trophy.

As for what Ridley has to do with this, it's pretty obvious.
Sakurai never mentioned Name, Role, and only showed his Tail-Knife floating at 5km/h for one frame.
...FOR ALMOST A YEAR RUNNING.
Holy Cheese&Crackers, Sakurai, when you say Samus' enemy will appear at "Any second", you REALLY weren't specific! XD
 

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I'm willing to wager that Sakurai definitely has a trick up his sleeve now.
Seriously, putting Prince Sable and Takamaru as Assist Trophies means he at least KNOWS what the fans want.
Take a Character a big group wants, make them an Assist Trophy to please them, and maybe upgrade them to a Character the next game if they have more potential.
At least they're in the game in more than a Sticker/Trophy.

As for what Ridley has to do with this, it's pretty obvious.
Sakurai never mentioned Name, Role, and only showed his Tail-Knife floating at 5km/h for one frame.
...FOR ALMOST A YEAR RUNNING.
Holy Cheese&Crackers, Sakurai, when you say Samus' enemy will appear at "Any second", you REALLY weren't specific! XD
That's because the general repping is no longer limited of an SSE mode.

I could write a full essay on how they over centralised brawl on it, but this should be enough:

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=114825

I have basic programming knowledge and it sounds so lazy.

That's actually the only reason I was happy for this mode being deconfirmed, not the mode itself.

That's also a good reason to expect mewtwo.

Ridley being almost confirmed is another proof of this.

And of course I lost the meaning of disappointment since that stage reveal.

So, bye bye SSE! :bluejump:
 

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I dunno, Samus was always pretty sexualized when she wasn't wearing the Power Suit. I mean, your reward for beating the games quickly is usually just Samus in a revealing outfit. It's not like it's a new thing. I can see why ZSS's more recent appearances would annoying (mainly because they're more prevalent in recent games) but I never thought it took away from the fact that she was a space bounty hunter who fights space dragons and giant brain monsters.

I still think it would have been a cooler design choice and reference if she was wearing the Space Jump Boots as ZSS but eh, the heels don't really bother me. Most of the female cast in Smash Bros. wear heels to the fight anyways.

But still, just having Samus and Samus again is really annoying as far as reps go. I could see ZSS getting more love in the future and people having less problem with her if we happen to get Ridley to provide some more Metroid representation though. I think a lot of hate she gets online from Metroid fans stems from the fact that Metroid is vastly underrepresented.

Also, those palettes. I love them all. Gimmie. Although a part of me really just wants Neo-Ridley to be an alt. Or even a Final Smash where he grows much larger, and summons X Parasites that float and move all around the stage. I just love Neo-Ridley.
 

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...2-3 games only. 3 if there was ending with ZSS image (if that suit counts as that). 4 if we will count original Metroid AND its remake, but then we will count NES Ridley too. Samus just without power suit is not ZSS. Blue suit that she wears in Other M and Zero Mission is.
So, Ridley appeared in more games than ZSS. Samus appeared in more games that Ridley obviously, but not ZSS.


I like Ridley-X and 2nd recolor more than other. Red one is worst.
I kinda considered Suitless Samus Zero Suit Samus, as the primary purpose of the costume is to be form-fitting enough to fit under the Power Suit. So the Zero suit could be a bikini, a onesie, or a shapely bodysuit.

It's not that different, is it? Ridley's been a cyborg, a clone, a mutant...
 

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I dunno, Samus was always pretty sexualized when she wasn't wearing the Power Suit. I mean, your reward for beating the games quickly is usually just Samus in a revealing outfit. It's not like it's a new thing. I can see why ZSS's more recent appearances would annoying (mainly because they're more prevalent in recent games) but I never thought it took away from the fact that she was a space bounty hunter who fights space dragons and giant brain monsters.

I still think it would have been a cooler design choice and reference if she was wearing the Space Jump Boots as ZSS but eh, the heels don't really bother me. Most of the female cast in Smash Bros. wear heels to the fight anyways.

But still, just having Samus and Samus again is really annoying as far as reps go. I could see ZSS getting more love in the future and people having less problem with her if we happen to get Ridley to provide some more Metroid representation though. I think a lot of hate she gets online from Metroid fans stems from the fact that Metroid is vastly underrepresented.

Also, those palettes. I love them all. Gimmie. Although a part of me really just wants Neo-Ridley to be an alt. Or even a Final Smash where he grows much larger, and summons X Parasites that float and move all around the stage. I just love Neo-Ridley.
 
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I kinda considered Suitless Samus Zero Suit Samus, as the primary purpose of the costume is to be form-fitting enough to fit under the Power Suit. So the Zero suit could be a bikini, a onesie, or a shapely bodysuit.

It's not that different, is it? Ridley's been a cyborg, a clone, a mutant...
Zero Suit can't be anything that Samus wears that is not power suit. It is that blue suit and only it. Would you call Samus' pajama a zero suit? If no, then you shouldn't call everything she wears under the Power Suit "Zero Suit". Just like Varia Suit is only orange power suit and not just suit she wears before she gets gravity/dark/light/whatever suit.

Still, it is always same thing unless it is Roidley or Ridley-X. Oh, and Roidley and Ridley-X are separate creatures. Roidley crumbled into dust few seconds after you saw him from left side (you can see him before you're supposed to by walking into a certain room after level 1 doors are open, but you will take damage from low temperature and you can't damage him).
*SSSSKREEOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!*
Roidley: "My ears! I can't even hear myself!"
Youtube and a Youtube to MP3 converter.
It will still have music and other SFX that he doesn't needs.

I want that roar sound and Roidley's roars too.
 
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Zero Suit can't be anything that Samus wears that is not power suit. It is that blue suit and only it. Would you call Samus' pajama a zero suit?
No. Her jammies would get caught in the folds of the Power Suit, and that would be very inconvenient for her.

I mean, unless they're latex PJs or hug her body tightly enough to not be an issue...

This issue right here? This is why Samus is naked upon death in the Japanese Super Metroid. Completely unimpeded free movement.
 

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Ridley is an awesome character, and I agree that Smash needs more villains, its just that I really don't know if he can ever be in Smash Bros, without doing an injustice to his character. If it were my dream, then Bowser, Ganondorf, King DeDeDe, Wolf, Wario, King K Rool, Ridley, and Mewtwo would all be playable... but sadly, we could very well get no new villain newcomers this time around....
 

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The white Ridley look like that dragon from Yu-Gi-Oh...:troll:
i really love these alternate colors for ridley.

my favorites are the bottom three... dragon ridley, demon ridley, and... uh... albino ridley. :grin:
I like Ridley-X and 2nd recolor more than other. Red one is worst.
Why thank y'all. The white one is more-or-less based on Nintendoland's ever obscure "Ice Ridley", BUT OMG I NEVER THOUGHT OF BLUE-EYES WHITE RIDLEY. The green one is supposed to be based on Zero Mission's Ridley art, but I 'spose it does look kinda generic dragon-y. And yes, I suppose Redley is a bit... Bland? I wanted to make it ALL red though to base it on Super's Ridley art, plus make it look... demon-y, I guess.
 

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I met a detractor yesterday, he said I was looking to far into the trophy quiz, and that the fact it gave away Robin and Lucina is mere coincidence, that Palutena wasn't teased as a stage boss like Ridley(how the hell does this guy function) and saying he was disconfirmed when he was teased last year, along with the fact that it is our own false for getting false hype after I tell him about Sakurai not wanting false hype
Dude, I think you need to lay off Miiverse for a long while. The whole place is littered with more than just Phazon.
 

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ugh, the articles of people ***** moaning and complaining about the shoes...
remind me of this It's a link as I should warn you about the naughty words people say in this, so don't say I didn't warn you http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/689536-super-smash-brothers

Dude, I think you need to lay off Miiverse for a long while. The whole place is littered with more than just Phazon.
It wasn't on miiverse, I got a 2 week ban for saying I really want Ridley and one of the reasons is that the toobigots would shut up, it was on Relax Alax's video
 

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Sakurai just tweeted confirming Prince Sable is an Assist Trophy, so that is 100% another to add to the list of instant disconfirms.
https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/496193366787239937
See? When a character's position is at all unclear, and fans are getting hyped, Sakurai answers.

He's only ambiguous when he's teasing characters that we have a reason to be hyped for.

Because they're in the game.

Also, I love this thread's utility. Any time I get a dozen new alerts or so, I can always know that I just have to check everything on the alert list down to the latest update of this thread, because it's always the first alert I get.
 

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My opinion on the heel rage now that we are talking about it
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Mild tangent, (Sorry Isma) but this reminds me a bit of the general MLP fandom's view on sexualizing characters: Inexplicably, giving a female character MORE clothes makes her sexier. Difference, is, we're more self-aware of the irony due to the majority of the characters being completely naked most of the time.

Seriously, how are Brawl Samus's boobsocks less sexy than Sm4sh Samus's high heels?
 

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My opinion on the heel rage now that we are talking about it
And that is ignoring how Captain Falcon looks like. Of course. He is so manly he could kill you just by staring at you with sheer manliness, but no one cares. But when someone says something about ZSS' HEELS, which guys wear too since well i don't know...Ancient Egypt's time. Hell, even STARSCREAM from Transformers Prime has high heels and he is a GUY. And a giant robot that is at least 5 million years old. Those heels don't even shoot missiles or act as jet boots or something like that. They are just there. This whole thing reminds me of reaction to Sonic Boom designs. And just reaction of many Transformers G1 fans to ANY changes to transformers.
No. Her jammies would get caught in the folds of the Power Suit, and that would be very inconvenient for her.

I mean, unless they're latex PJs or hug her body tightly enough to not be an issue...

This issue right here? This is why Samus is naked upon death in the Japanese Super Metroid. Completely unimpeded free movement.
She could configure her suit to cover them so they would be covered in armor. That would look funny.

She isn't. That was only in an early version of Super Metroid before that was replaced by what is now in Super Metroid.

Anyway, we should drop this discussion not only because it may get NSFW, but because it is off-topic and may start flame war. Stop it before IsmaR will bring his/her (is that a guy or not?) banhammer for real soviet damage.
 
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View attachment 20412 Mild tangent, (Sorry Isma) but this reminds me a bit of the general MLP fandom's view on sexualizing characters: Inexplicably, giving a female character MORE clothes makes her sexier. Difference, is, we're more self-aware of the irony due to the majority of the characters being completely naked most of the time.

Seriously, how are Brawl Samus's boobsocks less sexy than Sm4sh Samus's high heels?
whaaaaa? The MLP fanbase complains about having clothing?
See? When a character's position is at all unclear, and fans are getting hyped, Sakurai answers.

He's only ambiguous when he's teasing characters that we have a reason to be hyped for.

Because they're in the game.

Also, I love this thread's utility. Any time I get a dozen new alerts or so, I can always know that I just have to check everything on the alert list down to the latest update of this thread, because it's always the first alert I get.
THIS THREAD WILL ONLY DIE WHEN RIDLEY GETS CONFIRMED!
And that is ignoring how Captain Falcon looks like. Of course. He is so manly he could kill you just by staring at you with sheer manliness, but no one cares. But when someone says something about ZSS' HEELS, which guys wear too since well i don't know...Ancient Egypt's time. Hell, even STARSCREAM from Transformers Prime has high heels and he is a GUY. And a giant robot that is at least 5 million years old. Those heels don't even shoot missiles or act as jet boots or something like that. They are just there. This whole thing reminds me of reaction to Sonic Boom designs. And just reaction of many Transformers G1 fans to ANY changes to transformers.

She could configure her suit to cover them so they would be covered in armor. That would look funny.

She isn't. That was only in an early version of Super Metroid before that was replaced by what is now in Super Metroid.
That reminds me, C.Falcon has a visible crotch like Meleedork from what I understand
 
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whaaaaa? The MLP fanbase complains about having clothing?
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Well, sometimes, but here's a picture that illustrates my point.

Likewise, somehow, Samus in a bikini or her panties is somehow less sexy than if Samus was in a form-fitting bodysuit.
 

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That reminds me, C.Falcon has a visible crotch like Meleedork from what I understand
"Oh, that is okay. WHAT?! SAMUS HAS HEELS?! WAAAH!"
I hate those kind of peoples. Heels are not only for females.

Read this:
"Although high-heeled shoes or boots have more often been worn by women, in various times and places they have been standard features of men's footwear too, either for practical reasons or as fashionable items.

Mongolian horsemen were among the first to use heels as means to keep their feet from sliding out of their stirrups. It is also well known that Egyptian butchers wore high heels so they would not step directly in offal. Pharaohs and nobles in Ancient Egypt would wear high heels to show power and for ceremonial purposes.

Actors playing tragic roles in ancient Greek drama wore the buskin, a boot with a platform sole, designed to give them greater height over other actors.

The Romans, both men and women, wore cothurns, or sandals with platform heels; these were intended to lift the wearers above mud and garbage in the streets. Geta, which are based on a similar concept, are still used in Japan today.

American cowboy boots, first developed in the 19th century and still popular today in some parts of the United States, have high underslung heels to keep a rider's foot from sliding through the stirrup.

High-heeled platform shoes were a widely popular form of men's footwear during the 1970s."
So...?!
 
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Why thank y'all. The white one is more-or-less based on Nintendoland's ever obscure "Ice Ridley", BUT OMG I NEVER THOUGHT OF BLUE-EYES WHITE RIDLEY. The green one is supposed to be based on Zero Mission's Ridley art, but I 'spose it does look kinda generic dragon-y. And yes, I suppose Redley is a bit... Bland? I wanted to make it ALL red though to base it on Super's Ridley art, plus make it look... demon-y, I guess.
Really? Forgot about the Nintendoland stuff. It wouldn't have been the first time a character had an obscure color swap reference. Just look at Wire Frame Mac and Golf America Mario

If you want to fix up the Red swap a little more, why not make the wings more yellow or orange? The edges of the wing are a little lighter as it is. That should help it from looking "bland" as you put it. But I can see what you were going for before.

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View attachment 20413 Well, sometimes, but here's a picture that illustrates my point.

Likewise, somehow, Samus in a bikini or her panties is somehow less sexy than if Samus was in a form-fitting bodysuit.
I meant from the show itself without the fans doing it themselves.

Back to Ridley, should we make a strawpoll to see about that if Ridley would ever talk in the ganes who his voice actor should be? On YT there are some people who auditioned for Ridley for something, and Slowbeef and Gilbert Godfried are the other choices
 

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I'm honestly having doubts now that Ridley is anything but playable. This latest "correction" disconfirm is just too fast of a fix by Sakurai. Ridley was teased as a boss how long ago, and there was no such tweet? How can anyone say he's not in at this point?


So, I figure we should just start breaking out the post-confirmation discussion already.

ZOMG! Have you seen Ridley's Side-B?! It's totally awesome.
My gosh, Ridley gains a lot of distance with his recovery and air dodge. He's going to be a beast in the skies!
 

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There is just so many things going in both directions, and I'm going to feel like such a fool if Ridley is not playable..
 
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Lemme get this straight. So they

-Thinks character slots exist

-Think Mewtwo and Lucario can't Co-Exist

-Complain about WFT

What a terrible community.
most of it is 4chan and miiverse, what could you expect?
And I REALLY hope we get our precious space dragon before release, imagine if the games come out before his reveal and then the detractors will just laugh at us because he wasn't revealed, they would be wrong, yes, but still, we have been ridiculed for too big long ever since the shadows and detractors claiming random crap about everything else
 
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