Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Zem-raj]

Why are you guys even paying attention to him? ._.

 

[Hong]

THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE?! This is the SUPPORT FORUM. You do not go to the support forum of a character and say that the character in question should not be playable. that is just stupid.....

First off, this is a support thread. Character Discussion is the forum. Ridley doesn't have a support forum yet.
Secondly, @Dark Dude in constructively discussing a 100% ideal view for the character in a civilized manner. He specifically mentioned the merits of Ridley as a boss. As long as it's constructive, related to the subject and no flaming is involved. it is 100% okay. Robin thread had plenty of detractors before she was confirmed, and we handled their viewpoints fairly. No reason to make an exception here, and no reason to ask people to leave.

He has done nothing wrong. However, calling another user or their views "stupid" is flaming, and I would advise against it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait...you can actually use it? How? I can`t do that in any way other than using special that puts character in that state.

tap jump, tap it again, but hold it, tadaaa, Mk, Pit or Charizard are now gliding

 

[CrypticSpark]

You misunderstood. Sakurai going out of his way to deconfirm Ridley and not K. Rool, Krystal, etc. would be special treatment. If he were to deconfirm Ridley, then other supporters would want their character of choice to be either confirmed or deconfirmed.

You mean like Sakurai didn't go out of his way to decofirm Chrom, after Chrom clearly stated maybe next time and was seen in Robin's final Smash. But not only was it confirmed that Chrom was not playable in a Miiverse post, he flat out explained why in a interview why he wasn't in, are you implying that isn't special treatment?

Also in krsytal's case, there was no indication of her being in, there's no reason for Sakurai to just flat out decofirm her as playable. And only possible hint of king K. Rool is kremlings. Ridley's shadow pretty much confirms he's in we just don't know in what manner, so saying its special treatment to confirm or deconfirm him is nonsense.

 

[Khoru]

hey so i can't find it on google image search
someone toss the picture of ridley disguised as charizard at me
i need it for reasons

 

[SvartWolf]

You misunderstood. Sakurai going out of his way to deconfirm Ridley and not K. Rool, Krystal, etc. would be special treatment. If he were to deconfirm Ridley, then other supporters would want their character of choice to be either confirmed or deconfirmed.

the thing is that krystal, krool and company haven't been teased. we KNOW that ridley is in the game, thats undeniable, but his role have been left very vague, no other character role have been that vague, maybe except Palutena...

If he suddenly showed a 11 seconds video of a smash run kremlin walking, and a shadow that looked like Krool while saying other reptiles could appear in smash run, yeah, K rool would be in teh same boat as Ridley.

 

[AustarusIV]

Dark Dude isn't so bad. We've had much worse detractors coming in here, and he has his own opinion.

Just like I think Ridley would be a great playable character with flight as his main asset.

And as for bosses, Nightmare/Queen Metroid or bust.

 

[Turokman5896]

Wow.........

Murasame castle is coming to the us!

 

[SvartWolf]

the thing is that krystal, K. rool and company haven't been teased. we KNOW that ridley is in the game, thats undeniable, but his role have been left very vague, no other character role have been that vague, maybe except Palutena...

If he suddenly showed a 11 seconds video of a smash run kremlin walking, and a shadow that looked like K. rool while saying other reptiles could appear in smash run, yeah, K. rool would be in teh same boat as Ridley.

Edit: God i've written K. rool the 3 times different

Stupid me.. hitting reply button instead of edit

well, I can't wait to try tanooki Ridley if he is playable (there this post now isn't just trash :D)

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Pure Accident: when I'm offstage, stuck gliding in the opposite direction of the stage.

Tap shield or attack button to cancel it...you already know it i guess...

tap jump, tap it again, but hold it, tadaaa, Mk, Pit or Charizard are now gliding

Oh, thanks for info.

Dark Dude isn't so bad. We've had much worse detractors coming in here, and he has his own opinion.

And as for bosses, Nightmare/Queen Metroid or bust.

I agree with that. There was that guy with Kirby icon and another one with Little Mac icon and they didn`t even tried.

No love for Kraid?

 

[BlueBubbee]

hey so i can't find it on google image search
someone toss the picture of ridley disguised as charizard at me
i need it for reasons

Is this what you're looking for? It's kind of my "thing".

If not, I've never seen it the other way around...

 

[Khoru]

Is this what you're looking for? It's kind of my "thing".

If not, I've never seen it the other way around...

nah the one where he's painted orange and has a torch taped to his tail

 

[False Sense]

nah the one where he's painted orange and has a torch taped to his tail

 

[RidleyKraid187]

First off, this is a support thread. Character Discussion is the forum. Ridley doesn't have a support forum yet.
Secondly, @Dark Dude in constructively discussing a 100% ideal view for the character in a civilized manner. He specifically mentioned the merits of Ridley as a boss. As long as it's constructive, related to the subject and no flaming is involved. it is 100% okay. Robin thread had plenty of detractors before she was confirmed, and we handled their viewpoints fairly. No reason to make an exception here, and no reason to ask people to leave.

He has done nothing wrong. However, calling another user or their views "stupid" is flaming, and I would advise against it.

My Bad. There really is no excuse for what I said. I will try my hardest to avoid issues like this in the future

 

[AustarusIV]

Tap shield or attack button to cancel it...you already know it i guess...

Oh, thanks for info.

I agree with that. There was that guy with Kirby icon and another one with Little Mac icon and they didn`t even tried.

No love for Kraid?

Well, Kraid will presumably make an appearance in Smash Run, so there's that.

But Nightmare is a perfect candidate for a boss hazard, and the Queen Metroid has to make an appearance beyond collectible trophies.

 

[Turokman5896]

My Bad. There really is no excuse for what I said. I will try my hardest to avoid issues like this in the future

It's cool. Provided they don't make terrible/roundabout arguments, there is always room for detractors in threads: that said, it's easy to see how you could get frustrated.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Well, Kraid will presumably make an appearance in Smash Run, so there's that.

But Nightmare is a perfect candidate for a boss hazard, and the Queen Metroid has to make an appearance beyond collectible trophies.

No Brinstar stage? RUINED FOREVER!

What about Phantoon? Or Meta Ridley Metroid Prime? Or Rundas? Or...that d*mn fourth boss in Metroid Prime...or was it 3rd? That giant plant something monster.

 

[Turokman5896]

No Brinstar stage? RUINED FOREVER!

What about Phantoon? Or Meta Ridley Metroid Prime? Or Rundas? Or...that d*mn fourth boss in Metroid Prime...or was it 3rd? That giant plant something monster.

The giant plant monster is actually the second boss I believe *slides glasses up nose causing a ultra shiny reflection*

 

[MasterOfKnees]

No Brinstar stage? RUINED FOREVER!

What about Phantoon? Or Meta Ridley Metroid Prime? Or Rundas? Or...that d*mn fourth boss in Metroid Prime...or was it 3rd? That giant plant something monster.

Brinstar Depths can still return on the Wii U, which would be preferable because HD Kraid would be so insanely awesome.

Meta Ridley would be a lousy boss since he's technically the same as the original Ridley, if we're going to have two Ridleys might aswell make the original one the playable version, and Rundas is a bit too small (lul) for the Smash standards. Flaahgra might be a bit immobile, but he can still work I guess. I mostly want Kraid personally, but Crocomire, Draygoon, Phantoon or Nightmare would also be awesome choices.

The giant plant monster is actually the second boss I believe *slides glasses up nose causing a ultra shiny reflection*

Parasite Queen -> Hive Totem -> Flamethrower thingy -> Flaahgra.

He's the fourth boss.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler: Zoroarking's Ridley moveset(because why not?)

Spoiler: General stuff

Ridley is one of the biggest characters, however, unlike most big chars(Bowser and DK), he's very light to accomodate his aerial playstyle, as a drawback, he is sluggish in the ground, while he's easy to KO, he has an almost perfect recovery.
Model would be based of

As it the best design, imo, to be scaled down without using steroids
Has 3 jumps and hovering a la Peach
P.S.: Sorry for no percentages of damage, I'm not too much in this kinda of thing

Spoiler: Standard attacks and tilts

Standard A combo and finisher: Claw attack rampage just like in Other M finishing with a tail swipe, long rane but terrible power
Side tilt: Awkwardly bites forward, again, long rane but terrible power
Down tilt: Claw attack aimed 45° under him, terrible range, slow start up lag but the most powerful of his standards
Up tilt: Tail thrust aimed up from his back, slow start-up lag, tail blade is more powerful than the other parts of it, has the greatest knockback of the standards
Dash attack: Ridley bites while charging forward, slow start-up lag but powerful

Spoiler: Smash attacks

All Smash attacks have a "tip" on the tail similar to Marth's blade
Side Smash: pic for reference

Long range, powerful, but slow start up and ending lag, terrible knockback
Up Smash: Swipes his tail over him, fast and good range, but terrible power and knockback
Down Smash: Swipes the tail around him, long ending lag, but decent power

Spoiler: Air Attacks(oh boy, this is going to be good)

Tail tip included
Neutral Air: Swipes the tail around him just like the Super Metroid fight, fast, covers all sides of him, not much power though
Forward Air: Tail thrust forward, fast, powerful and great knockback, has long ending lag
Back Air: Swipes the tail at his back 3 times with the last one having more knockback
Up Air: Similar to the Up-Smash, has slow start up lag but has great knockback
Down Air: Stall-and-fall, pogo tail from SM, has Meteor Smash effect, Ridley jumps out of it just like in Greninja's down air

Spoiler: Specials

Neutral B: Fire Ball: A big and slow fire ball, based of from Bowser's custom moves(don't have the video where it is used now)
Side B: Dragon Claw: Ridley dashes like C. Falcon's Raptor Boost, if it connects, Ridley grabs the opponent, jumps and slams it on the ground(Similar to Bowser's Side B, but ending is similar to Charizard's Seismic Toss(I think it was that?) in the anime), suicidal move if used off the stage, doesn't leave him in helpless state if misses
Down B: Darken Skin: Works as a shield, the more you charge, the more you'll be able to use it, only Samus's Super Missile can destroy it, if timed perfectly, work as a perfect shield and lasts 5 seconds
Up B: Activate Flight: Basically, Pit's old Up B, doesn't leave him in helpless state

Spoiler: Alt Costumes

Obligatory Meta Ridley

Spoiler: Possible S-Supports

Rosalina
Jigglypuff
Nana
Palutena
Rayman

 

[RidleyKraid187]

So potential for a Ridley reveal starts in 5 days... The hype has begun

Why is This? When Is the Nintendo Direct? is it August 1st? Please Elaborate.

 

[ppbto]

Anything new?

I'm not going to read the ~70 pages that I missed.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Anything new?

I'm not going to read the ~70 pages that I missed.

Nah, just the usual discussions, dumping leaks, Metroid talk, detractors, etc.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Brinstar Depths can still return on the Wii U, which would be preferable because HD Kraid would be so insanely awesome.

Meta Ridley would be a lousy boss since he's technically the same as the original Ridley, if we're going to have two Ridleys might aswell make the original one the playable version, and Rundas is a bit too small (lul) for the Smash standards. Flaahgra might be a bit immobile, but he can still work I guess. I mostly want Kraid personally, but Crocomire, Draygoon, Phantoon or NIghtmare would also be awesome choices.



Parasite Queen -> Hive Totem -> Flamethrower thingy -> Flaahgra.

He's the fourth boss.

Yeah, i would pay to see tha- oh...wait...

I added Meta Ridley as a joke and forgot to use "strike-through"...um...effect...whatever for it. Rundas was at least 2x taller than Samus/as big as Ridley.

Oh, so, my joke actually works and it is that d*mn fourth chaos emerald boss?

Spoiler: Zoroarking's Ridley moveset(because why not?)

Spoiler: General stuff

Ridley is one of the biggest characters, however, unlike most big chars(Bowser and DK), he's very light to accomodate his aerial playstyle, as a drawback, he is sluggish in the ground, while he's easy to KO, he has an almost perfect recovery.
Model would be based of

As it the best design, imo, to be scaled down without using steroids
Has 3 jumps and hovering a la Peach
P.S.: Sorry for no percentages of damage, I'm not too much in this kinda of thing

Spoiler: Standard attacks and tilts

Standard A combo and finisher: Claw attack rampage just like in Other M finishing with a tail swipe, long rane but terrible power
Side tilt: Awkwardly bites forward, again, long rane but terrible power
Down tilt: Claw attack aimed 45° under him, terrible range, slow start up lag but the most powerful of his standards
Up tilt: Tail thrust aimed up from his back, slow start-up lag, tail blade is more powerful than the other parts of it, has the greatest knockback of the standards
Dash attack: Ridley bites while charging forward, slow start-up lag but powerful

Spoiler: Smash attacks

All Smash attacks have a "tip" on the tail similar to Marth's blade
Side Smash: pic for reference

Long range, powerful, but slow start up and ending lag, terrible knockback
Up Smash: Swipes his tail over him, fast and good range, but terrible power and knockback
Down Smash: Swipes the tail around him, long ending lag, but decent power

Spoiler: Air Attacks(oh boy, this is going to be good)

Tail tip included
Neutral Air: Swipes the tail around him just like the Super Metroid fight, fast, covers all sides of him, not much power though
Forward Air: Tail thrust forward, fast, powerful and great knockback, has long ending lag
Back Air: Swipes the tail at his back 3 times with the last one having more knockback
Up Air: Similar to the Up-Smash, has slow start up lag but has great knockback
Down Air: Stall-and-fall, pogo tail from SM, has Meteor Smash effect, Ridley jumps out of it just like in Greninja's down air

Spoiler: Specials

Neutral B: Fire Ball: A big and slow fire ball, based of from Bowser's custom moves(don't have the video where it is used now)
Side B: Dragon Claw: Ridley dashes like C. Falcon's Raptor Boost, if it connects, Ridley grabs the opponent, jumps and slams it on the ground(Similar to Bowser's Side B, but ending is similar to Charizard's Seismic Toss(I think it was that?) in the anime), suicidal move if used off the stage, doesn't leave him in helpless state if misses
Down B: Darken Skin: Works as a shield, the more you charge, the more you'll be able to use it, only Samus's Super Missile can destroy it, if timed perfectly, work as a perfect shield and lasts 5 seconds
Up B: Activate Flight: Basically, Pit's old Up B, doesn't leave him in helpless state

Spoiler: Alt Costumes

Obligatory Meta Ridley

Spoiler: Possible S-Supports

Rosalina
Jigglypuff
Nana
Palutena
Rayman

It would be better if only explosions instead of super missile would be able to remove that "armor". Everything else is fine...except for neutral and side special - i would like them to be something like flamethrower (neutral special) and Ridley`s grab from Other M, but with floor instead of wall and ending with just throwing opponent away or in the air.
And concept art Roidley looks worse than real Roidley for me. A little bit too much human-like for Ridley.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Rundas was at least 2x taller than Samus/as big as Ridley.

He's actually not very big at all.

A bit taller than Samus only.

Spoiler: Zoroarking's Ridley moveset(because why not?)

Spoiler: General stuff

Ridley is one of the biggest characters, however, unlike most big chars(Bowser and DK), he's very light to accomodate his aerial playstyle, as a drawback, he is sluggish in the ground, while he's easy to KO, he has an almost perfect recovery.
Model would be based of

As it the best design, imo, to be scaled down without using steroids
Has 3 jumps and hovering a la Peach
P.S.: Sorry for no percentages of damage, I'm not too much in this kinda of thing

Spoiler: Standard attacks and tilts

Standard A combo and finisher: Claw attack rampage just like in Other M finishing with a tail swipe, long rane but terrible power
Side tilt: Awkwardly bites forward, again, long rane but terrible power
Down tilt: Claw attack aimed 45° under him, terrible range, slow start up lag but the most powerful of his standards
Up tilt: Tail thrust aimed up from his back, slow start-up lag, tail blade is more powerful than the other parts of it, has the greatest knockback of the standards
Dash attack: Ridley bites while charging forward, slow start-up lag but powerful

Spoiler: Smash attacks

All Smash attacks have a "tip" on the tail similar to Marth's blade
Side Smash: pic for reference

Long range, powerful, but slow start up and ending lag, terrible knockback
Up Smash: Swipes his tail over him, fast and good range, but terrible power and knockback
Down Smash: Swipes the tail around him, long ending lag, but decent power

Spoiler: Air Attacks(oh boy, this is going to be good)

Tail tip included
Neutral Air: Swipes the tail around him just like the Super Metroid fight, fast, covers all sides of him, not much power though
Forward Air: Tail thrust forward, fast, powerful and great knockback, has long ending lag
Back Air: Swipes the tail at his back 3 times with the last one having more knockback
Up Air: Similar to the Up-Smash, has slow start up lag but has great knockback
Down Air: Stall-and-fall, pogo tail from SM, has Meteor Smash effect, Ridley jumps out of it just like in Greninja's down air

Spoiler: Specials

Neutral B: Fire Ball: A big and slow fire ball, based of from Bowser's custom moves(don't have the video where it is used now)
Side B: Dragon Claw: Ridley dashes like C. Falcon's Raptor Boost, if it connects, Ridley grabs the opponent, jumps and slams it on the ground(Similar to Bowser's Side B, but ending is similar to Charizard's Seismic Toss(I think it was that?) in the anime), suicidal move if used off the stage, doesn't leave him in helpless state if misses
Down B: Darken Skin: Works as a shield, the more you charge, the more you'll be able to use it, only Samus's Super Missile can destroy it, if timed perfectly, work as a perfect shield and lasts 5 seconds
Up B: Activate Flight: Basically, Pit's old Up B, doesn't leave him in helpless state

Spoiler: Alt Costumes

Obligatory Meta Ridley

Spoiler: Possible S-Supports

Rosalina
Jigglypuff
Nana
Palutena
Rayman

That Down-B is insanely overpowered, and the Up-B might be a bit redundant with the Peach-esque float, but the rest is good, even if I'd prefer a stream of fireballs instead of the Bowser custom move. Also, lol at the S-Supports Ridley for Fire Emblem.

 

[SvartWolf]

He's actually not very big at all.

A bit taller than Samus only.



That Down-B is insanely overpowered, and the Up-B might be a bit redundant with the Peach-esque float, but the rest is good, even if I'd prefer a stream of fireballs instead of the Bowser custom move. Also, lol at the S-Supports Ridley for Fire Emblem.

which shows us that memory can be treacherous sometimes... i get the feeling that people that say that Ridley is massive in all it's appereances, is mostly due to their memories more than actual sizes.

In a game full of massive bosses, Ridley isn't that Big by context.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

He's actually not very big at all.

A bit taller than Samus only.

I thought he was bigger...maybe that is because his model is close to Omega Ridley in terms of size unless i am wrong again.

 

[Deleted member]

I thought he was bigger...maybe that is because his model is close to Omega Ridley in terms of size unless i am wrong again.

"PotD. Rundas is huge! No wait, it's Ridley that is small! The Metroid series always f*** with size"

 

[Exegguter]

I think ridley's specials should be:

B: fireballs, like the first move he did in his zero mission boss fight. Lots of fireballs, mediocre range, 2% damage per hit.

Side b: grab. Just like falcon's side b except he flies. He will hold you and do continuesly damage until you (mash) break free. The higher the damage the longer he will hold you. (Like he did in all of his 2d boss fights). I think this happened in the direct also..

Down b: pogo stick (tail). Just like all of his 2d boss fights. Eats shield and is just like dk's down b (well except Ridley goes up and down)

Up b. Fly. Mix of Rob's up b and peach her hover.



Would be perfect.

 

[WayfaringElf]

Ridley is the ridleyiest ridley in the ridley ridley's ridley.

 

[ZeroJinKui]

the longer this all goes on, the more i feel like we're just going to be disappointed.

too bad that picture earlier was fake... would've been nice to end all the speculation for good.

 

[WayfaringElf]

 

[Cutie Gwen]

the longer this all goes on, the more i feel like we're just going to be disappointed.

too bad that picture earlier was fake... would've been nice to end all the speculation for good.

You mean the fake 3ds leak I posted? I only posted that so people can get this thread moving

 

[BaganSmashBros]

But y can`t crawl. At least he is a pretty cool guy. Kills Ridley and doesn`t afraid of everything.

I remember days when i thought that really was a guy and Ridley was a dinosaur/pterosaur/dragon thing.

 

[Con0rrrr]

In respones to these moveset ideas.

That side b Raptor Boost esque thing... Instead of being a bowser suicide move (as that does not fit Ridley), after you grab the player should scrape the opponent on the ground. True Ridley style.

Down B as armor is insanely overpowered

 

[WayfaringElf]

But y can`t crawl. At least he is a pretty cool guy. Kills Ridley and doesn`t afraid of everything.

I remember days when i thought that really was a guy and Ridley was a dinosaur/pterosaur/dragon thing.

I used to think Samus was Master Chief/Robot

 

[silver_blade001]

Why can't Metroid crawl?

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Why can't Metroid crawl?

NES limitations. Instead of giving him ability to crawl, they gave him ability to turn into a small ball, which is a lot easier to make sprites for and is at least possible.

I used to think Samus was Master Chief/Robot

How old were you and why Master Chief?

 

[silver_blade001]

NES limitations. Instead of giving him ability to crawl, they gave him ability to turn into a small ball, which is a lot easier to make sprites for and is at least possible.

I was making a joke, you know that is a meme going around though right?

 

[Crog]

Weren't aerial smash attacks confirmed with Robin? I could see Ridley having normal aerials that function like tilts, and smash aerials that function like... smashes. Yep.