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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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So it's possible to report someone for emotional damage right?
 

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RIDLEY WAS JUST CONFIRMED IN THE SAN DIEGO STUFF LIKE 10 SECONDS AGO!
IN YOUR FACE SHOKIO!

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT

RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
To try to troll this hard...

 

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RIDLEY WAS JUST CONFIRMED IN THE SAN DIEGO STUFF LIKE 10 SECONDS AGO!
IN YOUR FACE SHOKIO!

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT

RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
WHU- WHAT.

WHAT.

SOURCE, NOW!

YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK, YOU BETTER TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TRUE!

EDIT: I. HATE. YOU.
 
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For less than a second, i thought he wasn't just trolling. Maybe. Maybe i just wanted to drink.
So it's possible to report someone for emotional damage right?
We can just promptly shoot him and no one will ever notice that...unless we have a traitor that will spill out the truth...we should eliminate such traitors on-sight...with a duck...and if someone will ever notice that - they just fell of the space stairs. What? They don`t exist? Blasphemy!
...Or, ya' know, just forget about that and ignore it like "r1dl37 is 2 b1g" comments.
 
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So it's possible to report someone for emotional damage right?
On other forums he would totally be banned.
He just had a little fun, not so bad to me.
Anyway, if a year ago you'd told me that to this day we still wouldn't know Ridley's fate for certain I wouldn't believe you.
****ing Sakurai, he overdid the joke to be honest.
 

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And then on the One Year Ridleyversary, we'll get ANOTHER small tease that will cause mass hysteria and more arguments between us and the Too-Bigots.

*unsheathes sword* BE READY FOR WAR, MEN!

I'M READY! (God...gotta love using Ezio...)

AND MY CATRIN RIDLEY WILL TAKE THEIR SOULS!

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Anyway, if a year ago you'd told me that to this day we still wouldn't know Ridley's fate for certain I wouldn't believe you.
thisthisthisthisthis

I can't even describe how much I agree with this point. This wait is nerve-wracking and tiring to say the least...

plzzzz samuraiiiIIII


I'M READY! (God...gotta love using Ezio...)

AND MY CATRIN RIDLEY WILL TAKE THEIR SOULS!

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If you don't mind I am so using that Ridley-with-a-top-hat picture later because that is too glorious.

Also YES. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL THE END
 
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edit: look at me, the dumbass who double posts //sticks original post here with the first one
sorrysorry
 
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Ridley: My body is ready for Smash 4! Bring it on!
...that suddenly reminds me of that battle between Regginator and...who was the 2nd one?
plzzzz samuraiiiIIII
You know...Ridley was a Ninja, an alien, a pirate, a cyborg, a zombie, a radioactive cyborg, a mutant, a mutant radioactive cyborg zombie, etc, but he never has been a samurai.
Implying samus wouldn't do the same :p
In a suit - yes, but not without it...still it would be fun to look at...unless Ridley will die again...
 
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thisthisthisthisthis

I can't even describe how much I agree with this point. This wait is nerve-wracking and tiring to say the least...

plzzzz samuraiiiIIII



If you don't mind I am so using that Ridley-with-a-top-hat picture later because that is too glorious.

Also YES. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL THE END
o___o oh, thanks glad you liked it but......NO ONE USES MY DRAWINGS!!! D: PLEASE NO!
 

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So...Anything I miss? I've been sorta away for the past few days because I never expected a Ridley reveal at SDCC for a moment.

Any fanart or something?
 

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so he wanted to troll us with the ridley confirmed ...he didn't even show use the proof and picture and said where he see it
 

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Next Direct could be in September instead. If Hyrule Warriors gets one for it's Japanese release then sure, August, but it might not.

Otherwise Smash Direct might be in early September.

Technically, Nintendo could avoid a Direct altogether or do a Japan-only one until late September or the very beginning of October though.
Well i see you have not heard about the 2 month streak of directs

Every worldwide direct is every 2 months last time it was E3 and before that was the smash direct.
 

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Ridley: My body is ready for Smash 4! Bring it on!
...that suddenly reminds me of that battle between Regginator and...who was the 2nd one?

You know...Ridley was a Ninja, an alien, a pirate, a cyborg, a zombie, a radioactive cyborg, a mutant, a mutant radioactive cyborg zombie, etc, but he never has been a samurai.
No I know, lol. I meant 'Samurai' as a reference to a sort of in-joke where people on Miiverse call Sakurai Samurai.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Ridley was a Samurai tho

o___o oh, thanks glad you liked it but......NO ONE USES MY DRAWINGS!!! D: PLEASE NO!
Alrighty~ Just wanted to ask. ^^
I only would have stuck it in my sig or something anyway (with credit to you of course). No worries.
 
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And then on the One Year Ridleyversary, we'll get ANOTHER small tease that will cause mass hysteria and more arguments between us and the Too-Bigots.

*unsheathes sword* BE READY FOR WAR, MEN!
instead of war, lets just blow up the other side, entirely.

there will be nothing left to oppose the supporters, then.

utter annihilation is all that awaits trolls and detractors.
 

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Sorry guys, i'm want Ridley too.

I was trolled, I was so happy that I spread the fake before check if was legit or not.

Sorry =/
 

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instead of war, lets just blow up the other side, entirely.

there will be nothing left to oppose the supporters, then.

utter annihilation is all that awaits trolls and detractors.
So, we will use Ridley nuke too early...we must wait until the right time will come...and then blow up THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE!!!...and crash Smashboards yet again...
No I know, lol. I meant 'Samurai' as a reference to a sort of in-joke where people on Miiverse call Sakurai Samurai.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Ridley was a Samurai tho
I know, i know that comment.

Yeah, now i can imagine him being a samurai as bada$$ as Hakumen...or Captain Falcon...
 
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Sorry guys, i'm want Ridley too.

I was trolled, I was so happy that I spread the fake before check if was legit or not.

Sorry =/
Ohh. Well, if that's truly the case [because I'm a nice person and I'm assuming you're not lying], then it's fine. I'll admit I like spreading new news the second I hear it as well~. And this was a good place to confirm it, but...please don't make a habit out of it. Our hearts wouldn't be able to take it.

I know, i know that comment.

Yeah, now i can imagine him being a samurai as bada$$ as Hakumen...or Captain Falcon...
Oh-, pfft lol. Sorry, I'm so quick to explain things even when people actually do get them. ^^;

Captain Ridley or Ridley Falcon? Also if I could draw Ridley I'd totally draw him as a Samurai right now, just saying.
 
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...I DID IT AGAIN //smashes head into desk why can't you delete posts whyy
 
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Captain Ridley or Ridley Falcon? Also if I could draw Ridley I'd totally draw him as a Samurai right now, just saying.
If someone will ever draw a sakumurai Ridley, he needs to have a dragon/Ridley-shaped helmet and a very long and pretty badly damaged, but still very awesome sword.
Still, trying to rip each other heads apart is basically SamusxRidley relationship in a nutshell.
I agree with that, sir...sir?
 
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Alrighty~ Just wanted to ask. ^^
I only would have stuck it in my sig or something anyway (with credit to you of course). No worries.
-u- Glad you asked....but it has happened already 2 times that someone uses them without my permission...and I don't want it to happen ever again.... and I love that concept of mine dearly....so....I'm sorry.

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"Hasta pronto..."
 
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i think i was the only one who wasnt excited by the false "ridley confirmed" post...

im mostly just assuming we're all gonna be disappointed by the end of this and anything i hear saying otherwise is total crap, especially if its from anyone other than sakurai or nintendo.
 
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-u- Glad you asked....but it has happened already 2 times that someone uses them without my permission...and I don't want it yo happen ever again.... and I love that concept of mine dearly....so....I'm sorry.

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"Hasta pronto..."
Again, no worries, no worries~. ^^ I'll just appreciate them from here, lol.
 

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Ok, I think I've just about finished up my rather big analysis of Ridley's situation at this point. I tried to cover all the significant pieces of evidence that point towards Ridley being playable, and I think it turned out alright. Though I would appreciate any feedback from you all on how I could improve this in any way. I'd like to be able to have the most comprehensive analysis possible to use for defending Ridley.


Ridley. It's possible that this has been the single most controversial character topic in Smash history. For all the support he receives, there's also a huge number of people who believe that a playable Ridley is simply impossible at this point. Now, I'd like to tackle this topic myself, and perhaps give people a better idea of just what Ridley's chances are at this point. So, to start things off, let's take a look at Ridley's credentials.

Why should Ridley be in Smash?

For the very few of you who don't already know, Ridley is the main antagonist of the Metroid series, one of Nintendo's most successful series, and is the most recurring character in the series besides Samus herself. Within the context of the games, Ridley is the one responsible for murdering Samus' parents when she was a child, unknowingly creating his arch-nemesis in the process. In that sense, Ridley is the one who started the plot of the entire Metroid series. In almost every Metroid game, Samus has to constantly confront Ridley is some form or another, and somehow he is always able to come back and fight another day. Frankly, Ridley is a pretty important Metroid character, and by extension, is an important Nintendo character. As a result, he would be an excellent choice for Smash.

Now of course, there is a huge amount of controversy about why Ridley shouldn't be in Smash, which usually has to do with him being "too big." However, I do not intend to dwell on that topic, so here's my brief response to that issue: size does not matter in Smash, characters are resized all the time, and there is no reason that Ridley has to be an exception to this rule. Now, with that out of the way, I'd like to talk about about something else: the Ridley we've seen in Smash. Ridley is rather unique among potential Smash characters in that we have already seen him in the game. Or rather, we've seen his shadow, which was shown during a segment of a Smash Direct that talked about the appearance of other boss characters. Considering how Ridley seemed to be teased as a boss character, and considering how he was already a boss in Brawl, it would seem that the logical conclusion would be that Ridley is simply a boss hazard on the Pyrosphere stage, and therefore is de-confirmed. However, I believe that there is more to this than meets the eye.

So, let's take a look at a few points that show why this "de-confirmation" may not actually de-confirm Ridley, and that maybe, just maybe, this could actually help Ridley's chances.

1.) How Sakurai usually de-confirms characters

As unpredictable as Sakurai is, he does have a few patterns that he follows in how he handles some of his reveals. One of these is how he typically de-confirms characters. When he reveals that a character isn't playable, he is quick and to the point about it. He doesn't tease the character beforehand or allow for much opportunity for people to think the character in question may be playable, he just outright de-confirms them. Here are just a few examples of how Sakurai has previously treated non-playable characters.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAABnUYnZZEvggg
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlLqsgn_Q
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKluq9DPhw

As you can see, Sakurai is usually quite clear when he de-confirms characters, and it would seem that he likes to avoid creating unnecessary confusion or false hope amongst fans. This tendency of his was made even more apparent after the recent reveal of Robin and Lucina, when Nintendo made an official statement that Chrom would not be playable after he appeared at the end of Robin's trailer. So what about Ridley? It seems quite clear that Sakurai was teasing Ridley as a boss in that Direct. If that really is all Ridley is, why did Sakurai not clarify what he was? Even if he didn't want to actually show Ridley just yet, it would have been easy and beneficial if he just stated outright that Ridley would not be playable to avoid giving fans false hope. In fact, despite Ridley being heavily teased as a boss, we have yet to see any more of Ridley since the Direct. Despite being teased for almost a whole year now, ever since the reveal of the Pyrosphere, we have been given very little information regarding just what Ridley's role in the game is. If Ridley truly is a boss, there is very little reason for them not to show him at this point, and the way Sakurai has been treating Ridley does not match up at all with how he's previously de-confirmed characters.

2.) How Sakurai has teased newcomers

Just like how Sakurai has a certain method in which he de-confirms characters, he also has a certain method he uses to tease some of the newcomers we've seen so far. The best example of this is Palutena. Prior to her reveal, a new Kid Icarus stage was revealed that featured a Palutena statue. Along with the update came a comment that referred to the statue as a statue of "the Goddess of Light," which also mentioned how she was watching over the battlefield. This is rather interesting because Sakurai was clearly referring to Palutena, yet did not mention her by name, and the way he worded the comment almost made it sound like Palutena would just be a statue in the game. Later on in the Smash Direct, one of the Trophy Quizzes showed off a trophy of Pseudo Palutena, although at first it was shown from an angle that made the trophy look like the real Palutena. This gave a number of Palutena supporters a brief scare. At this point, it was clear that Sakurai was teasing Palutena in some way, and many believed that it was leading to an official confirmation. As it turned out, Palutena was indeed confirmed to be playable at E3.

Looking back, how did Sakurai tease Palutena? He hinted at her presence in the game (though never directly referred to her), and presented the situation in such a way that it appeared to some that she was not going to be playable, ultimately leading to her official reveal. This actually matches up quite well with how Ridley has been teased for so long; his presence in the game has been hinted at, though he has yet to be addressed by name, and he's been presented in such a way that it appears that he won't be playable. When you think about it, it makes sense for Sakurai to make it seem like characters people really want in the game are not playable, only to reveal them as playable later on. After all, it's much more exciting when a character you thought was unlikely gets in than when a character you thought was a guarantee is revealed. So perhaps Sakurai is doing what he did with Palutena to Ridley, in order to maximize hype when he's finally revealed.

3.) Ridley's size

Well, I did say I wasn't going to dwell on the topic of Ridley's size, but this is a somewhat different issue. As we all know, Ridley is a rather large creature, usually about twice Samus' height or more. Also, bosses in Smash are typically large, so that it's harder to dodge their attacks and easier for you to hit them. So, logically, if Ridley is a boss on the Pyrosphere stage, he would be large, and likely significantly bigger than a playable character. However, it appears that the Ridley we saw in the Direct may not be all that large. Basically, shadows on the Pyrosphere appear to be mostly static in size. Because of this, it is possible to get a rough idea of how big Ridley is compared to other characters. Here's an example of such a comparison (keep in mind that these are not 100% accurate).





Looking at this, it would seem that Ridley is relatively close to the size of Bowser. If that's the case, then that means that Ridley has been resized. Why would they shrink Ridley down just to make him a boss? Wouldn't that be counter-productive to making an effective boss? Speaking of effective bosses, that brings me to my next point.

4.) The Ridley we saw does not act like a typical Smash boss

In previous Smash games, bosses have typically followed a fairly basic attack pattern: stand still on part of the stage (usually the left or right ends), followed by either an attack or the boss moving to the other side of the stage while attacking (all this is usually done quickly). This is the basic pattern most bosses in Brawl followed (most notably, Ridley followed this pattern when he was a boss), and judging by how the Yellow Devil functions, it appears that pattern has carried over to this installment of Smash as well. So how does the Ridley we saw in the Direct act, and how does that compare to previous Smash bosses?

Well, Ridley starts out by flying in (slowly) from the right end of the stage, stops in the middle, does nothing for a few seconds, then (slowly) flies over to the left of the stage, and then immediately turns around and starts flying (slowly) towards the right. It's movements are also somewhat jerky and not very fluid.

First of all, that behavior does not match up at all with how Smash bosses typically function. What's most notable about how this Ridley acts is that, within the entire span of time he's on screen, there is no indication that he ever made an attack. Even his basic movements across the stage seem too slow to actually cause damage. That's a good ten seconds or so without a single aggressive move. That not only fails to match how bosses usually function, but frankly, that's just a bad boss design. This "boss" Ridley is essentially a mobile piñata. Not to mention the fact that this would be a very poor representation of Ridley, considering that he's usually a very fast and aggressive opponent in the Metroid games. If this is really a boss Ridley we're seeing, then it's a very poorly designed boss in practically every aspect.

Conclusion

So, what does this all mean? Well, we know that Sakurai usually goes out of his way to clarify when a character is or isn't playable, so it's odd that he has yet to officially de-confirm Ridley. We know that he can ambiguously refer to newcomers prior to their reveals and can tease them in such a way that makes it seem as if they may not be playable, which he has done for both Palutena and Ridley (though whether or not he's playable has yet to be seen). We know that the Ridley we saw in the Direct is not that large, meaning that he could possibly be at a playable size. And we know that the Ridley we saw acts very uncharacteristically for a Smash boss, or just well designed bosses in general. If Ridley really is a boss on the Pyrosphere, then that means that Sakurai, for almost an entire year now, has been teasing and hyping up a relatively small, slow, and fairly harmless boss version of a highly requested and controversial character. While that is a definite possibility, it seems somewhat unlikely. What is perhaps more likely is that Sakurai has been teasing a playable Ridley all this time, lowering our hopes in an elaborate attempt to maximize hype when Ridley finally makes his Smash debut.


So, what do you guys think?
 
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RIDLEY WAS JUST CONFIRMED IN THE SAN DIEGO STUFF LIKE 10 SECONDS AGO!
IN YOUR FACE SHOKIO!

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT

RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
You just committed social suicide
congratulations
 

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Well i see you have not heard about the 2 month streak of directs

Every worldwide direct is every 2 months last time it was E3 and before that was the smash direct.
I don't believe in any streaks of Directs after the last drought, no. We'll see when get them. Also, E3 wasn't technically a Direct this year, wasn't even organized like one.

Truth is we don't have any clue when the next Direct is, but we can safely assume there'll be one for both versions before release.
 

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So, what do you guys think?
I think you hit the BIG nail right on the head. You've pretty much covered everything there is to cover. So good job there.
I would've probably been inspired to believe in Ridley even more by this, if not for the fact that I'm already fully believing in Ridley.
 

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RIDLEY WAS JUST CONFIRMED IN THE SAN DIEGO STUFF LIKE 10 SECONDS AGO!
IN YOUR FACE SHOKIO!

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT

RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!
RIDLEY!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


Show me a picture or we are just waiting till august or september for are answer
 

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I honestly don't expect Ridley playable at this point, but if he is:



If just a boss:

 

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I think when Ridley is finally revealed, it will be the biggest thing since... well... Ridley.
 

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I honestly don't expect Ridley playable at this point, but if he is:

xD I find it funny how many people like to use that gif of "El Piojo" Herrera....

I will always hope for Ridley's playable status...
 
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