the reason why CAPCOM will chose another rep instead of Megaman

[Shark X]

Ryu would be broken for Brawl. Seriously there is no way to balance him and his size is VERY disproportionate to all the other fighters, because his in-game sprites are bigger than most Nintendo ones.

So? All they'd have to do is shrink his size down, and not use the exact same sprite.

 

[ndm508]

Brawl is not an advertisement to whatever a third-party wants to promote at the present time. If Capcom is represented in the game, they have one character to do that with. Resident Evil is popular but its characters are not. If you honestly believe that more people in general will recognize Jill Valentine or hell, Nightmare over Megaman, then you're in denial. If sales were all that mattered then they would be getting Madden to do commentary for each match.

Capcom is not out to represent a single series, they have to represent the entire company. Megaman, even if sales aren't that great, is still better known to the general public than the actual company name. It would simply be the most beneficial choice to make for them, and yes, I'm talking about the business aspect of this.

Plus this game is pure fan service, and as its been argued, this is Nintendo's game. The third-parties are just along for the ride. Even if Capcom DIDN'T want Megaman (and didn't like money) it's not like they really have much choice in the matter. This game is going to sell like crazy, like bat-**** crazy. It's not going to matter if Capcom is repped in this game or not, it will still sell like mad. Even if they didn't want Megaman, Nintendo really isn't going to give a rat's ***. And just by looking at the polls (if you even need to, common knowledge should be a enough) Megaman has the support. More than any other Capcom character. Bar none. You cannot argue that, and if you do, please find the proof.

And that's worse case scenario. So you want to argue the business aspect of all this? There you go. The fans, at the end of the day, are the business. Megaman is the face of Capcom. And it would make the most sense to have him in, as many many many people have said before. Stop being so stubborn and use some common sense.

 

[Ferro De Lupe]

You bring up interesting points about what Capcom wants. It does seem logical for them to want to promote their big, upcoming titles. That is, afterall, probably what is most beneficial for them.

But it doesn't really matter what Capcom wants. Nintendo controls the roster (though, it is apprently subject to "beggers"). Capcom may ideally want an RE or SF rep, but if Nintendo met with them and said "We want Megaman", what do you think Capcom would've done? Haggled?

Sakurai thinks about characters he wants for Brawl—not companies he likes. If he or some other Nintendo representative met with Capcom, it's because they said "We want so-and-so (my guess would be Megaman, based on the fan response)", not "We want one of your characters, who would you recommend?" If Capcom would prefer to have some other character in, it doesn't matter if Nintendo doesn't want that character in.

Now, I'm no businessman, and I certainly won't pretend to know how Nintendo and Capcom specifically do business, nor how business would be conducted between the two companies specifically. But general logic tells me that if Nintendo asks Capcom for Megaman, Capcom's only possible answers are "yes" or "no". If Nintendo wanted other Capcom characters, they would've asked. And if they didn't want those other characters, then they didn't get in. That simple. It doesn't matter how much a character from SF may help out Capcom; if it's not what Nintendo wants, then it doesn't matter. They aren't in the business of making Capcom more money. They're going to ask for the character that the fans want, which seems to be Megaman.

I didn't even have to read through the whole topic before I found the post that kills the TC's post.

 

[residentevilrulz]

Was there some kind of information released that I didn't hear about? Everyone talks on here as if Capcom and Nintendo are using a Capcom character for Brawl for sure. I don't remember hearing either of them say anything about that.. or even give a hint about it. Viewtiful Joe would kick so much *** in Brawl.. but I see it unlikely. Anyhow.. when I was growing up.. I played the megaman games and the mario games. To me, they were both "nintendo" characters. I didn't even know what capcom was. This holds true to a lot of people. I think Megaman is a huge reason that nintendo became what it did. I prefer the way Megaman X looks over Megaman.. but his appearance is unlikely. I'd prefer Zero over either of them though.. just because he's awesome lol. And lastly.. as you see, my name is "residentevilrulz".. as it is on every website that I'm a memeber of. Being the RE fanboy that I have been since '96... I'd say I want an RE character in here but I know that'd never happen. But I'll have to say.. IF there is an RE character.. for whatever reason..it's gotta be my man Wesker<3 Although I think Leon is most likely.. because of the fan reaction. And that's my 2 cents

 

[Shark X]

It's a shame Capcom had been screwing their mascot in recent years in favor of zombies. I miss good Megaman games. What, about 1998 was the last good one? I also miss Street Fighter, games and anime. Looks like Capcom are reviving that series though fortunatly. Now if only they can give Megaman a REAL revival. It's like Megaman and Sonic with down the same downhill path together in the last decade. Brawl would be the perfect game to bring them both back uphill, if only for one game, and one last ride on the top of the hill.

 

[McFox]

I should make a topic:

the reason why CAPCOM wont chose a rep at all since Sakurai picks reps, not companies

Of course, it would be hard to be taken seriously if I typed like that.

 

[Shark X]

I should make a topic:

the reason why CAPCOM wont chose a rep at all since Sakurai picks reps, not companies

Of course, it would be hard to be taken seriously if I typed like that.

McFox, haven't seen you in ages. Almost thought you were gone or something.

And you almost scared me when you typed like that just now. Almost thought you had brain surgery since I've last seen you.

 

[cheezysnacks]

It seems that Sakurai is partial to the old school stuff too. I mean Pikachu is still a character... Pokemon Trainers pokemon are the original 3 and not any of the new incarnations. ice climbers, G&W, sonic. The only characters that seem to be updated are the Twilight Princess Characters. But as long as Capcom gives us a character i will be happy... although i prefer Megaman.

 

[silver777]

now why do I think megaman has little chance??? easy most of the people who want megaman want him for the sake of nostalgia, his good days in the NES and SNES, however since MMX4 megaman games have gotten stale and sales have become really low, now all megaman games are low budget for a niche market....

 

[Mini Mic]

Oh snap Silver

 

[Shark X]

Oh snap Silver

Hell ye-ah!

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Just by reading the title and ignoring all posts before me, I shall state that Phoenix Wright be given Priority over Megaman. Well, I'm a crazy guy.

 

[susu_atari]

Thing is, we don't actually know who has the most influence on which 3rd party characters get in. Snake got in because Kojima was whining to Sakurai about it years ago, Sonic got in because fans wanted him in and Sega approved.
It depends who has the most influence on the final decision.

1. Fans - Megaman. Second only to Sonic in their eyes.
2. Corporation - The next big thing. In Capcom's case, SF4.
3. Sakurai - Heaven only knows, but he's probably going with the fans.

Resident Evil characters have no chance. Too many guns. My money's on Megaman.

As a side note, considering you can play TurboGFX on Virtual Console, I think Bomberman has a better chance than anyone else.

 

[cubaisdeath]

Sonic is totally a nostalgia character. He is part of Videogaming history, as well as Solid Snake. If we based reps purely on sales, anyone who played Sonic '06 would be like "no way...**** that" The last I checked, the most previous MGS game sucked as far as sales too. So by your logic, Ike shouldn't even be a Rep for Fire Emblem because the game isn't out yet. Neither should Lucas because Mother 3 was only released in Japan. The last star fox game on the DS had mediocre sales as well, lets boot Fox and any other Lylat System Rep. Oh, was Metaknight even IN the last kirby game? hmm..

 

[Shark X]

Just by reading the title and ignoring all posts before me, I shall state that Phoenix Wright be given Priority over Megaman. Well, I'm a crazy guy.

Then why isn't Phoenix Wright in your sig?

As a side note, considering you can play TurboGFX on Virtual Console, I think Bomberman has a better chance than anyone else.

Which actually scares me, considering we have ZERO MegaMan games on the VC. As much as I love MegaMan, I prefer to wait for him to be in Brawl (unless we get 4 or more 3rd party characters this time around after all). Sonic, MegaMan, and Mario are like the top three most classic video game characters of all time, and I'm sure Sakuri knows this.

 

[Shark X]

Oh, was Metaknight even IN the last kirby game? hmm..

Ehh...yes?

And I'm pretty sure MGS3 had tons of sales, and more so with Subsistences online play...god I miss my PS2 and MGS3:S...

 

[cubaisdeath]

Ehh...yes?

And I'm pretty sure MGS3 had tons of sales, and more so with Subsistences online play...god I miss my PS2 and MGS3:S...

Most previous MGS games are the 2 Acid games and the Portable Ops. They kinda sucked. Although PO was a million times better than the 2 Acid games, but it was too drab and boring, and not too traditional to the MGS series.

 

[Shark X]

Most previous MGS games are the 2 Acid games and the Portable Ops. They kinda sucked. Although PO was a million times better than the 2 Acid games, but it was too drab and boring, and not too traditional to the MGS series.

Ah. Thought you meant the main MGS games.

Of course they suck, they're portable games.

 

[error_alt_delete]

nope, sonic still gets good reviews and sells good on DS, many people enjoyed the sonic adventure and sonic heroes games which still sell really good...it was untill the wii-360-ps3 that sonic has been phailing.....megaman has been niche since 1994

shadow the hedgehog says Hi. and just because megaman games started doing bad doesnt mean they cant get a good deal out if it. if they were to put in clasic megaman, X, or legends version, they could revive those verions and have a GOOD megaman series back. that seems like a plus for nintendo since megaman has been mainly for them this entire time.

 

[psyniac_123]

most of the people who want megaman want him for the sake of nostalgia, his good days in the NES and SNES, however since MMX4 megaman games have gotten stale and sales have become really low, now all megaman games are low budget for a niche market....he just isn't at the level of mario and snake anymore....

What, you know, like... Sonic?

 

[Shark X]

There is no way in hell or god's name that Sonic Heroes was good. Ever. Period. Retract that statment, NOW! I have a Smash Ball and I'm friggin not afraid to use it. Whats my Final Smash? ...Hell if I know either O.o

 

[tirkaro]

You can't compare magaman status to that of sonic and snake....yes they are all like the "mascots" of their companies, HOWEVER metal gear is Konamis most powerfull franchise, and Sonic is still SEGA's most powerfull franchise, but megama IS NOT CAPCOM's most powerfull franchise anymore!!

nop you are wronng the last megaman starsoildier was never in japan's top ten no megaman game has sold over a million copies in more than a dacade

yes megama is the 20th most selled of all time BUT IT DOSN"T SELL ANYMORE THAT WAS PAST TENSE

*facepalms*
further proof you have no idea about the topic at hand, and just looked at a bunch of charts and went "ZOMG, MEGAMAN SELLS BAD!!!111"
you obviously cant spell to save your life, but I'm still going to try and argue with you anyway:

first off, megaman STARFORCE (not starsoldier, whcih makes me even further question your knowledge of the subject) didn't SEEM to sell well because of one reason: THERE WERE 3 VERSIONS. all the sales were split up into 3 games. putting them together, they sold very well. WHY IS THAT TOO HARD TO COMPREHEND!!!!????
and yes, megaman still sells VERY well. and the games are NOT low-budget. haven't you ever seen megaman ZX?

so basically, you're simply judging megaman's entire current condition, based on one game. as a result, you NEED to stop argueing before you get hurt or something.

 

[Shark X]

...but I'm still going to try and argue with you anyway...

Why in gods name would you do that? He's only going to responce with more nonsence...

 

[d0c926]

*crosses fingers for viewtiful joe*

I will join u!

 

[Wolfgang457]

SFIV can hype it's self all it wants as far as I am concerned. No one will really care about it. All I have heard from hype is "Cool. A new SF." Thats it. No fan-boy hype like we saw from Halo 3. No people jumping up and down like idiots screaming and hyping about it like its the second coming of Jesus.

You obviously don't go to my college

As for the topic on hand Megaman is a videogame icon moreso than any other Capcom character. This plus his fan demand pretty much gives him a good one-up over others not to mention his history with Nintendo. As much as I'd like to see Phoenix Wright in Brawl, Megaman has earned spot. I'm not going to argue about the sales, but I do work at an EB and can say that both Sonic and Megaman have their niche consumers, Sonic's 3D games just happen to consist of little kids.

 

[XeroHarsh]

I'm going to laugh when OP is wrong.

 

[volbound1700]

The comments about Sonic's decline are hilarious. Sonic Adventure 2 for Gamecube did really well. The games after that still sell well but have not got quite the ratings. Sonic Heroes still sold over 2 million copies I think even though it was a rushed title. The only busts (if you call them that, they still sold fairly well) are Sonic and the Seven Rings and the New Sonic the Hedgehog title. However, fact is, it is still SEGA's biggest money maker.

 

[volbound1700]

Also you can use the same logic with Mario since Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion are considered total failures when you compare how well they did against classics like Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Brothers 3, Super Mario World, or Mario 64. Even the so-called Nintendo failure Super Mario Brothers 2 did far better then Sunshine or Mansion.

 

[XeroHarsh]

The comments about Sonic's decline are hilarious. Sonic Adventure 2 for Gamecube did really well. The games after that still sell well but have not got quite the ratings. Sonic Heroes still sold over 2 million copies I think even though it was a rushed title. The only busts (if you call them that, they still sold fairly well) are Sonic and the Seven Rings and the New Sonic the Hedgehog title. However, fact is, it is still SEGA's ONLY money maker.

I fixed it for you =D

 

[Super_alex2]

I would much rather have Viewtiful joe, but Megaman is a capcom icon.

 

[Aqua Rock X]

OK TC, I can't really say what hasn't been said before but look at it this way. First, let's take the top five series for Capcom: Mega Man, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Viewtiful Joe. Now let's analyze there chances at reps for Brawl, and I'll even try to keep this simple for you to understand.

Street Fighter: Already an established fighting game series and in an interview back in 2006, the developers stated that they didn't want actual fighting game characters in brawl.

Resident Evil: General consensus is, the RE characters don't have much to draw a moveset from that would make them different from snake or not include guns.

Devil May Cry: Can you show me a DMC title on a Nintendo console? Appearing on a nintendo console is an absolute MUST for a spot in brawl.

Which brings us to Viewtiful Joe and Mega Man. Now, both are fallen legends, but one is an icon whos been around for 20 years and had more letters posted for him than any other third party character (not counting Geno). And no, it's not Joe. It's the one and only Megaman.

Face it. Megaman has been faithful to nintendo back in the old days, and has ALOT to draw a moveset from. And while he has appeared on a few fighting games, he's not a fighting game character. The same can be said for Snake, Sonic, and even LINK (who's been in Smmash from the start).

 

[volbound1700]

Jill Valentine from RE could possibly upend Megaman.

I find it funny that Sakurai says no guns but technically fox, falco, and samus all use guns (blasters) or projectiles.

 

[cubaisdeath]

Jill Valentine from RE could possibly upend Megaman.

I find it funny that Sakurai says no guns but technically fox, falco, and samus all use guns (blasters) or projectiles.

Sakurai said no real world guns. They can make their way around it if need be. But Megaman fits the category better with his Buster on his arm.

 

[Arteen]

Also you can use the same logic with Mario since Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion are considered total failures when you compare how well they did against classics like Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Brothers 3, Super Mario World, or Mario 64. Even the so-called Nintendo failure Super Mario Brothers 2 did far better then Sunshine or Mansion.

They weren't classics, but they were by no means awful. Sunshine still got outstanding reviews and Luigi's Mansion doesn't really count because it's no the same style of game as the other Mario titles you listed (and who's calling them failures?). On the other hand, all the newest Sonic games have gotten mediocre to awful reviews. Big difference. SA2B, Heroes, and SatSR got mediocre reviews, while SADX got bad reviews and StH (where the "S" is interchangeably Sonic or Shadow) got abysmal reviews. The handheld titles have at least gotten good, but not great, reviews.

Sonic hasn't declined; he abruptly fell into mediocrity and he's currently maintaining it.

 

[Pyr0]

*crosses fingers for viewtiful joe*

I'm with u buddy!

 

[shadenexus18]

If Megaman some how because of some sort of freak accident doesn't make on to Brawl, then Ryu (Street Fighter) will take his place. He's got first dibs. After all, he did use to be the heart and soul of Capcom.

But I doubt it, I wouldn't underestimate how Capcom & Nintendo do business. I say that Megaman's all ready in the game if you ask me.

And now we wait patiently for his confirmation.....

 

[Gaiash]

I have to say I think Ryu might get a chance since Capcom might want to promote the upcoming Street Fighter games.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

THIS is how big Megaman is

http://translate.google.com/transla...8_1124.html&prev=/search?q=famitsu&hl=en&sa=G

 

[Circus]

I have to say I think Ryu might get a chance since Capcom might want to promote the upcoming Street Fighter games.

Taking a gander at your sig, I have to assume that this is based on bias. Especially if what Aqua Rock X said is true (and now that he's mentioned it, the "no characters originating from fighting games" rule does sound familiar).

However, as I was taking that gander of your sig, I noticed you support Sora for Brawl, so I can't judge you too harshly. Sora's pretty ****in' rad, yo.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Personally, if they are going to use Brawl for ad and for some reason not use Megaman


Bionic Commando would be a better choice