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2001

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First off let me start by saying, everything I say is a lie, and people say I am very dishonest. Does that make me truthful or not truthful? That's kinda how this topic is. You might think im wrong about things, or right about things. To tell you the truth I dont know for myself.

What this topic is, is a rankings list of all the smashers in the Western world. A list that describes who is the best of the best. Is this list accurate? A little bit. Around 25 tournament results and kind of out-dated power rankings were used to make this list.

I guarantee this list could have been done better by another person, or if I had more help. But this list was a one man thing thing created by me.

Im totally open for arguements, opinions, and suggestions. As a matter of fact, I want them because I need everyone's help to make this list list perfect.

The mission statement of this list: Expose the best smashers in the Western world to others, rank skill level, reward skill level, and most of all encourage others to start thinking about who is the best and hopefully get the Smash Panel Rankings back up again. (There I said it).

So, here is the list I created.

0. Hieme
1. Mew2King
2. Ally
3. Dojo
4. Lain
5. Tyrant
6. Anti
7. ADHD
8. Fiction
9. Atomsk
10.Meep
11.NinjaLink
12.CO18
13.Omni
14.Anther
15.DSF
16.Seibrik
17.Judge
18.Candy
19.NEO
20.mikeHAZE
21.UltimateRazer
22.Reflex
23.DEHF
24.Afro
25.ChuDat



People who I couldnt get on the list because the numbers didnt add up for them, they are inactive, im almost positive they are inactive, or im not smart enough to realize that they should definately be on the list, are not on the list for these reasons.

FAQs:
Q: Why is Hieme number zero?
A: He always searches his name so he will probably find this topic. Just another way to get this more attention.

Q: Why isn't this closed? Who is 2001 anyways? He's a scrub lock this already.
A: This list is unofficial, it's not just my opinion, there are power rankings and tourny results that helped me make this list, i'm not the only person that can change this list. I want this to be more of a community project. If it gets really good, hopefully the OFFICIAL smash panel rankings will come back.

Q: Why isn't (name) on the list? Why isn't (name) above (name)?
A: Low on state power rankings, tourny results, or the most common reason; I made a mistake. So, if you think somebody should be on the list, or should be in a different spot, POST! And give a reason. Just make sure you're not trying too hard to get nothing but people from your crew on the list.

Q: This is stupid in everyway I don't care about it all.
A: If you really don't care about this list or completely disagree with everything on it without giving advice to make it better, go to General Brawl Discussion to get your post count a little higher.




By the way, i'm probably going to update this list only a couple more times at most. After that you guys can argue with each other about the list, the mods can close it, or the official smash panel power rankings will come back(not really).
 

Santi

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I beat Candy in tournament 2-1 o.0

but I dont even think I'm top 50 nationwide.

Just felt like saying that :)
 

2001

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lolololololol I forgot
anther SORRY!!!!!!! i have like 12 different lists that ive made I cant believe I missed him on this one!!!

edit: Ok I checked my other lists and this is where I had him on almost all of them.
(wow i had DEHF on there twice too I fixed it though)

Keep commenting please I want to hear everybodies opinion!
 

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DEHF is on your list twice.

I thought Atomsk was considered the best DDD, so shouldn't he be above CO18?

M2K saying Anti and Fiction tie for 5th should be enough to get them to move up from their humble 18 and 19 positions.

ADHD is considered better at Diddy than NinjaLink, I believe. NL may be great with a bunch of characters, but that doesn't matter late in a tourney. ADHD should be above him IMO.
 

2001

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DEHF is on your list twice.

I thought Atomsk was considered the best DDD, so shouldn't he be above CO18?

M2K saying Anti and Fiction tie for 5th should be enough to get them to move up from their humble 18 and 19 positions.

ADHD is considered better at Diddy than NinjaLink, I believe. NL may be great with a bunch of characters, but that doesn't matter late in a tourney. ADHD should be above him IMO.

Yea although I knew Anti was really good, national tourny results kinda screwed him, same thing with atomsk and ninjalink. It was really hard finding local tourny results that included fiction that were up to date. I fixed DEHF too.

But still, this is my first list the second one (if I make another) will be better.
 

Santi

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I was more impressed with Atomsk then CO18 in brawl

but CO18 looks more G

but atomsk has a cool scarf

but CO18 beat Razer twice and almost lee martin

but atomsk takes awesome pictures and we chit chat on AIM
 

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Good list but i think Dsf should be lower and atomsk and adhd and anti should be higher and snakee should be in der. OH yea and sk92 definetly should be ther.
 

Infinitysmash

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You put RoyR on your list, then said he's not active enough to be on the list.

UltimateRazer, Gnes and myself are also all ranked above him in our state's power rankings.

You've got your heart in the right place, but I don't really agree with much of this list dude.
 

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Lists like this are pretty much impossible to make accurate outside of like top 3. Any list otherwise is just a reflection of your opinion.

Making an actual national ranking isn't really going to happen because well..it's almost impossible. Feel free to discuss your opinions about players, but don't bother stating anything as fact.
 

2001

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LoL, this is a very bad list.

I don't know what else to say.
Do something to make it better. I'm open to all opinions espicially from west coast pros since I have little knowledge of anybody over there
 

ANTi_

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Well move FICTION higher Tyrant higher. and DSF lower by like 1 or 2 spots.

EDIT : Actually you should just find out top 8 (or 5) from each coast then go from there.
 

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I'm not a big supporter of lists like these ... it's impossible to have an accurate top 50. But if I had to make a list I'd change the following things in particular:

- Lee Martin, LeePuff and MikeHaze are easily top 50.
- Seibrik/Lain/DSF a bit lower
- Tyrant/Fiction higher
- If Snakeee is on the list, Dazwa has to be there too
- Maybe add Holy?

:059:
 

XACE-K

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Same as Gheb, it's impossible to have an accurate top 50. But what I would do is look at all the regions power rankings. It would help to know who they think are the top players in that region and what not. Then if you believe there is a tie for a spot or you're uncertain about a player, find who has that person played in big tournaments. The better the people he beat, the better his ranking should be.
 

2001

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Well move FICTION higher Tyrant higher. and DSF lower by like 1 or 2 spots.

EDIT : Actually you should just find out top 8 (or 5) from each coast then go from there.

Yea thats kinda what I did. As you can see the top 6 spots are ranked number 1 in their states.

1.m2k=New Jersey
2.Ally=Canada
3.Lain=Michigan
4.Dojo=Texas
5.DSF=Cali
6.Anti=New York

Then thee are some tourny results that are thrown in there as well. Also Fiction and Tyrant cant go above DEHF since DEHF is number 2 in socal power rankings.

I'm not a big supporter of lists like these ... it's impossible to have an accurate top 50. But if I had to make a list I'd change the following things in particular:

- Lee Martin, LeePuff and MikeHaze are easily top 50.
- Seibrik/Lain/DSF a bit lower
- Tyrant/Fiction higher
- If Snakeee is on the list, Dazwa has to be there too
- Maybe add Holy?

:059:
Again, its hard to move fiction or tyrant any further up because of DEHF. Snakeee plays in a harder state and has more tourny results than Dazwa although im aware Dazwa plays an extremely good ZSS. Leepuff and mikeHAZE are too low on socal power rankings plus they dont have a lot of tourny results.
 

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I'm on the list twice in 29th and in 33rd :D

Given how your list is I have one quick question: how many of these people have you actually played?
 

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So, here is the list I created.

1. Mew2King - MK
2. Ally - Snake
3. Lain - IC
4. Dojo - MK
5. DSF - MK
6. Anti - MK
7. Atomsk - DDD
8. DEHF - ???
9. ADHD - Diddy
10. Tyrant - MK
11. Seibrek -MK
12. NinjaLink - Random
13. Judge - MK
14. Fiction - Wario
15. Omni - MK
16. Anther - Pikachu
17. Razer - snake
18. Meep - IC
19. Reflex - Wario (PT lol the south sucks)
20. Afro - Snake
21. Inui - MK
22. Candy - Snake
23. CO18 - DDD
24. ChuDat - Kirby
25. Ksizzle - MK
26. NEO - Marth
27. Shadow - MK
28. Domo - MK
29. Infinity - MK
30. Snakeee - ZZS
31. Boss - Luigi
32. Gnes - Diddy
33. Infinity - MK
34. AlphaZealot - Diddy
35. Roy_R - Marth
for shakes and giggles, yeah I know some people use more than one character but so what wanna fight about it :mad:

ugh alot of mks.......***s
 

2001

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I'm on the list twice in 29th and in 33rd :D

Given how your list is I have one quick question: how many of these people have you actually played?
Thanks for pointing that out.

Also ive only played 2 of the people on the list but first of all, I didnt make this list by watching videos of players, I used power rankings and nowhere near enough tournament results. Second of all, I want the community help me make this list, whether it's impossible or not because I KNOW I cant make this list perfect by myself. I posted this so others would start becoming interested in player rankings.
 

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Ohio Power Rankings said:
1.) AlphaZealot

2.) Overswarm /

3.) Quivo

4.) Capem

5.) Nope

6.) YBM

7.) Infern Angelis /

8.) Shugo

9.) Pops

10.) Smash64
Michigan Power Rankings (they only did top 7) said:
1. Lain
2. Judge
3. Anther
4. SamuraiPanda
5. Bowyer
5. Omniswell
7. Needle of Juntah
Kentucky Power Rankings said:
1 - Xisin
2 - Rowan
3 - Hilt
4 - Tactical
5 - Mister Eric
6 - Spec
7 - Cr4sh
8 - Paladin /
9 - Zero
10 - calic
Midwest Circuit East Rankings said:
1. Ally 80
2. Lain 60
2. Judge 60
4. Anther 50
5. AlphaZealot 38
6. SamuraiPanda 27
7. NoJ 26
8. Bowyer 20
8. Overswarm 20
10. Capem 19
11. Omniswell 18
11. Xisin 18
13. Quivo 14
14. Nope 10
14. ook 10
14. Renegade 10
14. Kel 10
18. Hilt 8
18. Shugo 8
18. Toph 8
18. Chewy 8
18. Tactical 8
23. Rofa 7
23. Smash64 7
23. Y.b.M. 7
26. Pops 6
26. HateOni 6
28. Rowan 5
28. Infern Angelis 5
30. Cake 4
30. Champ 4
30. Lou 4
33. Mister Eric 3
34. Count 2
34. Machinegun Norm 2
34. Blood Hawk 2
34. Kirk 2
34. Mr. E 2
34. TravisD 2
40. Fizzle 1
40. Asdioh 1
40. Dope 1
40. Ripple 1
40. Crunch 1
40. Zozaphobe 1
40. SteelSamurai 1
40. Fonz 1
40. TheJerk 1
40. KingYoshi 1
40. Beegs 1
There is also a MW circuit: west, but this should give you all the information about the east.

Best in Kentucky is 11th in Circuit points
Best in Ohio is 5th in Circuit points
Best in Michigan is 2nd in Circuit points
Which is also roughly how the states rank: Michigan > Ohio > Kentucky.

Indiana doesn't have a power rankings. They also don't have any players in the top 10 in Circuit points (though they go to MWC: West events as well as East events I believe).

Sigh, it is sad that MW only has 4-5ish people on there (Lain/Anther/Judge/me/and Domo is sorta mw but also goes down to Texas a bunch I think? Shrug?).
 

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it's more sad that this thread isn't locked =\

it's a power rankings made by one person, who's not even a well-known/nationally-respected player
 

2001

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it's more sad that this thread isn't locked =\

it's a power rankings made by one person, who's not even a well-known/nationally-respected player
1. Its a power rankings thats NOT official

2. It's open to opinions, suggestions, and arguements meaning everybody can influence the way the list looks by posting their ideas. Not just me.
 

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M2k is going to drop imo. It seems like trying to play melee + brawl doesnt work out :/ .. I mean losing to fiction and tyrant lately and he didnt win against ally.

I dont't even know why im posting this : D
 

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1. Mew2King <--- 2 stocked him game 1 at Whobo and the next two games were both last stock high percent.
2. Ally
3. Lain
4. Dojo <--- Is 3rd, hardly anyone will disagree with this I've also taken more than 1 tournament set off this sexy beast
5. DSF <--- can throw a controller clear across a hotel conference room
6. Anti
7. Atomsk <--- Is also a sexy beast.
8. DEHF
9. ADHD
10. Tyrant <--- is a sexy beast in teams but needs to stop being predictable with his spot dodges <3
11. Seibrek <--- Seibrik*
12. NinjaLink <--- Is also a sexy beast. I make my text on AIM pink just for him :p
13. Judge <---- Needs to stop failing at teams on wifi :D
14. Fiction
15. Omni
16. Anther <---- Is also a sexy beast :D
17. Razer <---- wtf 15 yr old xD
18. Meep
19. Reflex
20. Afro
21. Inui <---- has never won a singles game against me and I wreck him in teams (but I <3 him)
22. Candy <--- lost to Santi, then Santi lost to me the very next round; but then this guy beats Dojo? Whassajiggawut?
23. CO18
24. ChuDat <--- would be THE sexy beast if Dojo wasn't around
25. Ksizzle
26. NEO <--- I JV 3 stocked him when I played him (but he's also a sexy beast)
27. Shadow <---- .... no johns
28. Domo <---- .... also no johns, this guy beat me right after I had played M2K
29. Infinity <---- also a sexy beast
30. Snakeee
31. Boss
32. Gnes <--- is above me in our state's power rankings but below me on your rankings? .... and he's also a sexy beast
33. AlphaZealot
34. Roy_R <---- is a sexy columbian beast
35. Affinity <---- this dude gets with hot Brazilian chics and gets out of speeding tickets because lady cops think he's cute, so this makes him a sexy beast


Edit - Also...

I'VE GOT BRANDY!

Edit - This is my last post in here, I'll go back to my regularly scheduled lurking now :D
 

2001

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So, Dojo should definately be number 3? Im not going to edit this list for another week probably so more people can post their opinions but ill make sure to change that when I do.

Where do you think that puts Lain then?
 

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@AZ

Indiana doesn't have anybody overly active, and also we suck.

I'm third in the state, along with bloodhawk and renegade. asdioh is legit as well.

MW:W is too far for us, a lot of the east stuff is far also..hopefully we'll get more organized since we're sort of centralized.


Anyway sorry for the off topic just wanted to fill AZ in on what little smash our state has.
 
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