The Peanut Gallery [Diddy Board Social]

[Player-1]

Don't throw them away, use them against her. We have superior item control

 

[vato_break]

Don't use them if you have bad item control but i mean if you have bad item control you shouldnt be winning that matchup anyway cuz you probably suck..

seriously diddy kinda ***** zss, just stay on your toes and

 

[GOofyGV]

I know how to use her items but so does she.
Playing safe and throw them away wil result in you having banana's and she has nothing.

without her items this mu is kinda easy.

0 when both have item's.
+1 when you have banana's and she nothing.
+2 when you have both.

 

[vato_break]

diddy can use her items a lot better and the diddy player SHOULD have better item play by default.

 

[GOofyGV]

^I agree

but I still find them wierd that bounce shiz :S

 

[Player-3]

DRN throws all his armor pieces offstage at th ebeginning of the match vs p1

DRNs item control is insane

 

[GOofyGV]

He at least thinks about what to do.

 

[DRDN]

I think its better to get rid of her pieces just because they add extra kill moves and setups. It works both ways but she has practice with items that bounce and can set up(same for wario) and we already have good setups with our bananas

 

[GOofyGV]

I do use tires from wario they are less risk imo.
Less knockback.
I don't know I just hate ZSS her items

 

[Player-1]

Just stop sucking and use armor against her

 

[DRDN]

I always try but the momentum is what seems to decide who loses a stock from it

Not to mention her B moves do more damage then ours so she can fight while holding one

 

[Ingulit]

Not to mention her B moves do more damage then ours so she can fight while holding one

We still have Side-B and Popgun, and you can just throw a suit piece straight down and stand on top of it so you have all of your other moves at your disposal as well. The only thing you have to worry about from her is Side-B, and that's pretty easy to see coming/block most of the time.

 

[Vega4]

Just stop sucking and use armor against her

I agree with this.
If you are a Diddy main, how can have a ZSS main better item control (it doesn't matter if it is a naner, tire, armor piece, or bike,...) than you?
If he does, then you have to practice way more, because you'll have a hard time winning lot of match ups.

Everytime I play a ZSS main for the first time, they do the usual, throw of stage some armor pieces, and just keep one or two, but I r@pe em so hard with they own pieces, that next time we play they don't wanna know anything about armor pieces xD

Btw, if you are bad using ZSS armor pieces, then surely you are one of those Diddy mains that hate the ditto...

 

[Luigi player]

The armor pieces were real problems for me lol.

I lost stocks while doing like ~20 % to my opponent while getting ***** by those pieces. I tried throwing them away/use them, but it's always really really difficult to do so. And even if I got to use some, quiksilver always got them back under his control, so in the end I mostly tried to just get rid of 'em as fast as possible. Every little thing get's punished soooo hard by ZSS... I also always got juggled for like 80 % all the time. I also lose without the pieces anyway.

ZSS is so broken, I need to seriously change some things up. Maybe I should just get better... :x

 

[vato_break]

sounds like you're just being outplayed lol

 

[DRDN]

She can throw her piece down and down b to get a cross up over you

 

[Ingulit]

Guess who got us a critique forum guys

This guy

 

[Zinoto]

does well in the matchup if you stay grounded. has limited options when people shield, it's a serious flaw with her, but she eats through spot dodges. Play safe and don't rush in. The main thing is to use your shield.

 

[Zwarm]

Today was my first time going all Diddy in tournament, and I ended up getting 17th out of 35 entrants. I didn't actually win any sets, I got byes and one kid forfeited to me because he was exhausted, but the two sets I did play were so fun. I played Sago first round, he went MK/Marth. He told me I surprised him with Diddy, and I did pretty well minus the suicides, though I got 2-0'd. Then in losers I had to play DLA, who went Sheik. Game 1 was last hit, but I managed to suicide when we were both at last hit, I guess I was too close to the right side of Smashville during up B or I hit the stage wrong, but I blew up and died. Game 2 I wasn't playing as well, and ended up suiciding one more time.

So yeah, I need to work on recovering better. I think I was doing pretty well minus the horrible recoveries.

Zinoto and JJRockets were both there too. Zinoto got 7th iirc, and JJ got 13th, so I was the lowest placing Diddy, but it was good experience for me I think.

 

[Player-1]

Guess who got us a critique forum guys

This guy

No me. .

 

[Vega4]

The armor pieces were real problems for me lol.

I lost stocks while doing like ~20 % to my opponent while getting ***** by those pieces. I tried throwing them away/use them, but it's always really really difficult to do so. And even if I got to use some, quiksilver always got them back under his control, so in the end I mostly tried to just get rid of 'em as fast as possible. Every little thing get's punished soooo hard by ZSS... I also always got juggled for like 80 % all the time. I also lose without the pieces anyway.

ZSS is so broken, I need to seriously change some things up. Maybe I should just get better... :x

When the match is starting you just need to jump and get your naners out. You now that in some moment ZSS is going to throw you those armor pieces, so you just have to react and shield. You also need to be fast preasuring with your naners, ZSS' side B gives her some range, but naners break that, so there is no reason why you couldn't counter her game...

 

[Player-1]

Hey Ingulit, make it so the critique thread embeds youtube videos like the marth board's

 

[Ruinn]

Hey guys... it's time. I'm going to be using diddy a bit so that I can use both diddy and donkey kong. I'm pretty lazy to look but is there any beginners guide to using diddy in here? ;-; i know how to glide toss and all that and ive been hit by the naner naner walk up dsmash many times so i think i can replicate it. but i know theres more to diddy and i must find out! ;-;

 

[Ingulit]

Yeah, we have several good beginner's reads in the stickies. There's the general Diddy guide for absolute beginners to Diddy play, and then there's the Kongpendium which is an amalgamation of everything Diddy-related. Start with the general guide and then read as much of the Kongpendium and the threads that it links to as you can to get started, and be sure to post if you have any questions in the Q&A thread. If you're getting stuck on a certain AT and you want a quicker explanation than waiting for a response in the Q&A, check out Player-1's AT video guides (which are also stickied) as they do a great job explaining things.

And, of course, welcome, fellow Kongrade! :kongmunism:

Spoiler

That should so be a smiley, I should see if I can make that happen

 

[Kantrip]

YES Ingulit! I've been saying that for so long.

:kongmunism:

 

[GOofyGV]

lol Ruinn welcome to diddy boards I gues

1 question
did you came with this great plan after reading my post at the dk boards?
because then I am happy that you could use it

I picked up diddy like you do now but I couldn't resist the main switch.

 

[Ruinn]

lol Ruinn welcome to diddy boards I gues

1 question
did you came with this great plan after reading my post at the dk boards?
because then I am happy that you could use it

I picked up diddy like you do now but I couldn't resist the main switch.

pretty much goofy aha, i can use the other chars you listed too and i was like might as well learn diddy too!

 

[GOofyGV]

lol and I am happy I can use 2 characters which one of them being diddy and the other being mk

 

[vato_break]

i wish i mained diddy a lot sooner, i don't know a lot of MUs, only the top tier ones in socal. ****

 

[Ingulit]

Speaking of no MU experience, I'm glad we're discussing Olimar because lord knows I (and the majority of AL) have no recent experience in that MU (ever since DanGR dropped Olimar since "He has nowhere to go but down," lol). I swear, there was this thirteen-year-old Olimar player I played a few years ago who was really good for his age and I bet he could come to an ASL tournament not having played any Brawl since and would probably get top 13

 

[vato_break]

why 13? thats such a random number to pick XD

 

[tibs7]

ok so falco bair>snakes bair.
absolutely ridiculous move

 

[Zinoto]

ok so falco bair>snakes bair.
absolutely ridiculous move

Falco's broken.

Also, I like the new influx of players. Welcome to the boards ^_^

 

[GOofyGV]

lol most diddy's seem to hate falco for some reason

 

[Player-1]

it's a fun MU

 

[Ingulit]

According to my smash group, most players seem to hate Falco for some reason. I'm with P1, I think it's a really fun MU (now that I'm avoiding the CG > Spike fairly well).

Oh, P1, I finally did the rising Barrel Blast against Kismet at our Friday Smashfest to recover from the CG > Spike, but I didn't get a spike out of it

 

[Ruinn]

Falco's broken.

Also, I like the new influx of players. Welcome to the boards ^_^

thanks!

 

[Player-1]

lolz, I've only ever spiked that one falco player too.

 

[Ruinn]

guys, how much does a dazzle cost?

 

[Zinoto]

According to my smash group, most players seem to hate Falco for some reason. I'm with P1, I think it's a really fun MU (now that I'm avoiding the CG > Spike fairly well).

Oh, P1, I finally did the rising Barrel Blast against Kismet at our Friday Smashfest to recover from the CG > Spike, but I didn't get a spike out of it

I got tired of missing techs on the stage because of my booty smash DI so I just do rising up-b as well. Instant recovery.

guys, how much does a dazzle cost?

I bought mine for $50, but they can vary.

This is a good thread:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298260