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This also happens to me, Im not sure what the cause is but it could be that you are holding down the button too long or that you are doing it too fast. The input doesn't have to be that quick unless you want the sliding pivot grab, in which case its a matter of learning the timing.I'm trying to practice Yoshi's pivot grab so I can do it with 100% accuracy..well..I never had to practice pivot grabs with any character, but for some stupid reason with yoshi I will randomly roll while trying to pivot grab. Is there some kind of reason for this??? I am only pressing Z. So I don't understand what's causing me to roll.
I can do it like 95% of the time but sometimes a roll will bust out. I just want to see if anyone knows why so i can correct itThanks
I'm pretty sure you roll because you're not running before you try a pivot grab. Since you're not running, you can't actually pivot which causes the grab button to enter its secondary phase, which is shield. I'm not sure why it shields instead of grabs, but that's what I've been noticing. So yea, just make sure you run first.I'm trying to practice Yoshi's pivot grab so I can do it with 100% accuracy..well..I never had to practice pivot grabs with any character, but for some stupid reason with yoshi I will randomly roll while trying to pivot grab. Is there some kind of reason for this??? I am only pressing Z. So I don't understand what's causing me to roll.
I can do it like 95% of the time but sometimes a roll will bust out. I just want to see if anyone knows why so i can correct itThanks
Which reminds me. Didn't you quit brawl? And if you didn't, got a sudden interest in Yoshi?Ah..thanks guys. I might end up re mapping my controls and changing grab to X, I just hate the z button. Was able to avoid pivot grabbing with other characters, but its necessary with Yoshi so I'll probably change my controls.
Sadly.....GA T_T no other Yoshi lives here.....Where you live scatz?
Well if you ever get desperate and want to travel, the Midwest (Ohio especially) have been having tournaments pretty much every weekend. And over the summer M2K is (probably) moving to Ohio, and we're planning on having a 6 tournament circuit event around the Midwest area (mostly Michigan and Ohio) during the summer months. I know its a hellishly long drive, but if you ever get bored, I'm sure I could hook you up with a place to stay for however long. If you want, I'll keep you posted.Sadly.....GA T_T no other Yoshi lives here.....
You know you stayed interested cause of me :DDo I play pokemon? Quite a bit of time ago I did. I bought Diamond, but never played it much. Not my thing, lol.
I'm surprised I've stayed interested in Smash at all.
Definitely Scat. He is my inspiration!You know you stayed interested cause of me :D
M'kay...I'll try to get some sleep, but it is a school night, so I don't know how well that will go over. I had a feeling Yoshi would have some bad matchups on Luigi's Mansion, so I have developed a habit of banning it. I really dislike the ceilings. Ike on Pirate Ship never occured to me, but it does make sense, and I will keep it in mind. Same thing with Pikachu, although it's a really good thing you warned me about this one, as I do frequently counterpick Norfair (and irritate people in the process >.<). I think it's banned at this tourney though, so I won't have to worry about that yet. The last three are kind of common sense, and I'm hoping I'll be able to follow through with that. I'm not all that outgoing, so making friends may take time, but I've got a good 7 hours, so I should have plenty of time. =] As for spam, I can deal with it. The only things that actually get to me, from my limited wi-fi experience, are wall infinites and maybe Ice Climbers' chain grab. I can hopefully avoid the former by not using Ike (my only experience with that it Game & Watch's Dtilt on PS1. Ewww...) and the latter by...using Ike? Apparently, he does pretty well against them, so I may whip him out if my Yoshi gets wrecked.Firefly, what I've learned first hand is:
Get a good nights sleep the night before, it will make a difference.
Do not let MK or Zelda (or Lucario?) pick Luigi's Mansion, you won't like it. (I think there are other characters too, but those are the big ones.)
Do not let Ike pick Pirate Ship. Again, you won't like it.
Do not let Pikachu pick Norfair. I know it's a good Yoshi stage, but Pikachu can get much better control over it.
Make some new friends that you can play when there aren't tournaments going on. If you can train with people that normally beat you, your skill will rise rapidly.
There are douchebags that will spam you, plank you, and basically do anything to piss you off. If it happens and you end up losing, just laugh it off. (And make fun of the guy behind his back)
Just... have fun. A tournament can be a great time if you enjoy it. It can also be a terrible time if you let yourself get frustrated.
welcome! it has been noticed before, but it's not necessarily used that much, even though we have footage of what it looks like. it's great for setting up a ledgeguard, but ehh.... i don't think you should waste time on making a video for it. thanks for trying to contribute, and by not making a new thread about it. i learned that back in like september XDHi yoshi boards. I just started using yoshi within the last week. I don't know if I found something new with him [I havent seen it anywhere, maybe im looking in the wrong spot]. But if you dash towards the edge and throw an egg about | | from where you would fall off [seriously the space between the lines is the space i was doing it at] you throw an egg out off the stage, and automatically grab the edge. you can still use your 5 eggs for vertical movement afterwards. i'll have a video today after work.
the main reasons why yoshis are lacking the ability to place higher is the lack of basic coreplay, as scatz and others has said before on several occasions, and mixing it up, as i've heard several people tell me -.-....Ah, cool cool. Thanks for clearing that up. I've always wanted to play yoshi since melee, cause he was that super pro status character, whats more pro then not having an up b. lol. and i've finally figured him out [in brawl anyways -_-;] so i'm gonna have fun with him, get good, take em to tournies see how i place. i was reading in the tourny results, why arent yoshis placing 1st. I understand its crazy hard to place 1st with all the snakes and mk. but we dont have one. ;[ i'll be trying to fix that. To the whole Yoshi community. I will main yoshi until i place 1st, [at a real tourny, not local garbagelol] :DDDD support mehh. I support you!
This is probably the best advice I heard you give out. Also, Bwett should be ther other yoshi player to look at since he's not complicated (more mindgames in the egg lay).the main reasons why yoshis are lacking the ability to place higher is the lack of basic coreplay, as scatz and others has said before on several occasions, and mixing it up, as i've heard several people tell me -.-....
but yeah, if you need any visual assistance, look for 2009 or late 2008 matches of bwett, burntsocks, scatz, green ace, or pride... i recommend not watching scatz at first, because he a is a far more complicated yoshi. green ace is probably the best yoshi to watch for a beginner because he primarily focuses on eggs and pivot grabs; aka, yoshi's best friends.