The Official Waluigi Thread

[Wrath`]

Score my azz, i thought that was a valid stament.
look, geno had 2 smash games to apper in,but he did not
Waluigi is party and sport master, it would be sweet to have a character based around the sports games of mario

 

[Stryks]

Umm well Peach has the Tennis racket and golf club u know...

Well unless u dont know Geno is 3rd party but belongs in the Marioverse, the only reason he wasnt added is becuase he was 3rd party, now that we can have 3rd party character he can be added, but knowing sakurai I doubt he'll consider him one at the same time, being from the mario series, if Sakurai can get rights to him then hes ours for the taking...

"look, geno had 2 smash games to apper in,but he did not"
Cant u read?

[PWNage]

Why he didnt appeared? probably same reason wario, metaknight, Dedede and ridley werent in melee, because they didnt had enough time to create more characters, thus they had to make clones...

[/PWNage]

Yeah lets add a character who has had no major role on a game that AINT party or sports, and doesnt have his own game... yeah lets do that...[/sarcasm]

 

[Wrath`]

Pwng? no, wario and co. had only one chnce so far,and if geno is part of mario,that means at least 2nd party,and if nintendo does not own him yet....then that lessens his chance. also geno didnt own the game he was in.:******:

Waluigi is not random,he is liked by many

 

[Stryks]

Well geno toad and chain chomp are even MORE liked cause THEY appeared on the poll, Wario has had 2 chances, not one, waluig has had one but because he was created as a filelr some time after smash 64 was made...

No geno is 3rd party cause he belong to square, gets ur facts stright, but being in the top five makes him a great candidate and raises his chances, sakurai stated hes interested in the character, so score one for Geno, and geno was one of the mian characters in SMRPG, unlike Waluigi who hasnt been not even a secodnary character in any game, more like a minor...

So far havent seen a reason for waluigis inclusion for brawl, and we all know TWoK wont give one any time soon...

 

[Wrath`]

but i dout we will have 3 3rd parties.
waluigi is importiant, i dont get why you do not like him,give me a reason BESIDES FILLER,bet cha you cant

tommorow i'll get my reaserch on, and then you'll be shakin'

 

[Stryks]

Yeah Im Scared, Besides Filler? Ask and u will receive

Waluigi has had NO major roles in the Mario games, only apeparing in Sports and Party games, that's it, never was he the main enemy of mario or luigi in a non party or sports game, all he has done is just fill up the roster (aw crap I said it oh well!), nothing more and nothing less, well maybe less I dont know...

Mario, Peach, Luigi and Bowser are shoe-ins in brawl, thats four characters, I doubt the mario series, even being the main series of nintendo, will have more than 6 characters, But stryks: Who can the other 2 be? easy:

Geno: Is on the top five of sakurais poll, "the poll dosent matetr!!11one" really? Then WHY IN HELL did sakurai made a poll then?! He wants too see which characters Japan and the world wants to see, Geno is on the top five by being in one game and a cameo in another, this must catch skaurais eye, even tough hes 3rd party, i doubt and many others as well he'll consider him 3rd party, being fomr the marioverse after all...

Geno was part of one of SNES finnest games, considered today one of the greatest ever made, and he was one of the main characters in that game, and has a lot of special ablities

Toad: Not much of a charavter, being peach's guard, BUT hes on sakurias top five, that alone raises his chances even higher against other mario characters *CoughWALUIGICough*

Bowser Jr.: The main enemy along with his father in sunshine, many hate him for replacing the koopa kids, but his chances are great, with the painbrush he can bring up a unique moveset, adn if he can transform into shadow mario as his down b or Final smash then hell wil lbrake lose...


These 3 alone have more of a shot comparing him with waluigi, hell CHAIN CHOMP has more of a shot, since he DID appear on sakurais poll, waluigi did NOT

Daisy has a shot as well, she has become more than another peach, she has developed a tomboy personality, something we dont have in smash, and has HAD a major role in a mario game: Super mario land, being marios dansel in distress, the reason mario is fighting against all the enemies...

Thing is waluigi has had NO major role and is only part of party and sports games, he doesnt even appear on warios own series the warioware games, he isnt as important to the mario games as others are, he aint as popular comparing them, and even chain chomp appeared on the list, while waluigi doesnt...

 

[Octillus]

I do enjoy asparagus-like bizarro italians that communicate indecipherably.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Are "Super Mario RPG" and the "Mario & Luigi" games canon?
They are right? That's what I would consider them.

And on a side note:
TWoK... you are a moron and should stop posting because you're just filling up the thread with ignorant and repetative posts and you are not helping the pro-Waluigi side anyway by continuing to do so.

Vali you, along with Stryks, Dyce, and Mic 128 made good points,

Yay! I'm appreciated!

 

[Johnknight1]

Are "Super Mario RPG" and the "Mario & Luigi" games canon?
They are right? That's what I would consider them.

In a sense, but seperate from the Super Mario Bros. series...sorta. They go along with the 3 Paper Mario games. Anyways, 1 reason Waluigi didn't appearn on the poll is that Japan isn't big on sports games and party games, and that is basically all of Waluigi's apperances. Let us hope that the moron who put Didy/Dixie duo and Link's Uncle don't get a cult following and make it into Brawl, otherwise I'll be sick to the stomach. Hell, I'll have *gasp* *sigh* *ergh* *AHHHH!!!!* Plusle and Minun in before them, and you guys all know how much I hate them, right=???

And on a side note:
TWoK... you are a moron and should stop posting because you're just filling up the thread with ignorant and repetative posts and you are not helping the pro-Waluigi side anyway by continuing to do so.

THREE WORDS: THANK YOU X-x-Dyce-x-X!

Yay! I'm appreciated!

Yes, you are, lol! You don't go on with stupid reasons why Waluigi should/shouldn't be in Brawl like "he's gay", or "zomg Waluigi is teh best evr"=annoying. Those kind of remarks are retared, and prove how stupid the person who puts them is, and you have good points why he shouldn't be in. In other words, you are appreciated for not making pointless remarks, and for making good ones!

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

THREE WORDS: THANK YOU X-x-Dyce-x-X!

Yes, you are, lol! You don't go on with stupid reasons why Waluigi should/shouldn't be in Brawl like "he's gay", or "zomg Waluigi is teh best evr"=annoying. Those kind of remarks are retared, and prove how stupid the person who puts them is, and you have good points why he shouldn't be in. In other words, you are appreciated for not making pointless remarks, and for making good ones!

OMG IZ LIK MI BIRFDAY N XMIS AWL AT DA SAYM TIM!!! I M LUVD!!!

 

[Johnknight1]

I don't know how to respond to that X-x-Dyce-x-X other than lol!

 

[Wrath`]

i am no moron, i will laugh when i am right

 

[Stryks]

I wouldn't get ur hopes up TWoK...

 

[Johnknight1]

i am no moron, i will laugh when i am right

Chances are you are wrong, Waluigi IMO only has a 5% chance, but you never know now do you=??? So he COULD make it, but more than likely he won't. O, and make points other than "I like him", and "He's kewl" as why Waluigi should be in.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

I think waluigi should get in because i think they can creae a good moveset for him. For his B-moves i think thet could use his special moves from mario tennis snd mario baseball. Hr could also be similar to peach in that his side smash could be him swinging a baseball bat or a tennis racket. Plus i think it would be interesting to see waluigi some eggplant based move. I would like to see him in brawl just to see what kind of moves they would give him.

 

[petre]

they can make a good moveset for ANYONE.

the super-obvious-previously-used-and-everyone-should-know-by-now examples are captain falcon (whom you seem to be a master of, so you should know), and fox. did either of them have any attacks anywhere near what they have in smash (except fox has lazers and a reflector)??? they can take any character from any game, and give them an awesome moveset. thats not a problem.

id rather not see him just to see what other kinds of characters i wouldnt even think of put in brawl.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

I see your point petre, but i heard that there is goin to be something around 35-40 characters, so i think that there will be enough room to have waluigi lus other new and different charaters. Plus mabye even some new clones.

 

[the grim lizard]

I think it would be an insult to Wario to put Waluigi in. Here, Wario has to wait through two other smashes to get in, and Waluigi gets in first try?? That's saying that Waluigi is more important/popular than Wario, which is clearly not true...

I see your point petre, but i heard that there is goin to be something around 35-40 characters, so i think that there will be enough room to have waluigi lus other new and different charaters. Plus mabye even some new clones.

There'd have to be at least 70 characters for Waluigi to be in and NOT have it be absurd...

For 35-40 chars: Assume 20 returning veterans, plus the 5 known newcomers. That's 10-15 new characters we don't know about. Throw in Dedede, Ridley, Diddy, Krystal and/or Wolf, Olimar, Goroh, Balloon Fighter, a new Pokemon and a couple new 3rd parties, and we're out with 35 or 5 left with 40. We haven't even given any new Mario, Zelda, EB, or FE characters yet. We've hardly added any new series either.

PLUS, I can think of plenty of characters who would be WAY more fun to play with than him...to name a few: Dark Samus, Skull Kid, WW Link, Vaati, Midna/Wolf, Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario, Stafy, Little Mac, Mach Rider, Ray01, Takamaru, Poo/Jeff/Paula...HECK, even Pico, Black Shadow, Darunia, K. Rool, Bubbles, 9-volt, Toad, Mike Jones, any of the Metroid Hunters, Knuckles, Gex, Adeleine, Bulbasaur, Charizard, Squirtle, etc. etc.

Tell me how you can even THINK that Waluigi is far enough up there to get in over these guys??

Geno: Is on the top five of sakurais poll, "the poll dosent matetr!!11one" really? Then WHY IN HELL did sakurai made a poll then?! He wants too see which characters Japan and the world wants to see, Geno is on the top five by being in one game and a cameo in another, this must catch skaurais eye, even tough hes 3rd party, i doubt and many others as well he'll consider him 3rd party, being fomr the marioverse after all...

Geno was part of one of SNES finnest games, considered today one of the greatest ever made, and he was one of the main characters in that game, and has a lot of special ablities

the poll dosent matetr!!11one

I'd say it being one of the finest is debatable, but oh well I won't dog on it because people like it...whatever. Personally, I wouldn't be upset if he wasn't in, but that's just my opinion. I'm not supporting him, but I think Toad is probably more deserving simply because he's been around forever, he's been playable in a game (woot), and he actually is one of the cornerstones (which are mario, luigi, peach, and toad...just look at SMB2 or Super Mario Bros. Super Show!!!) Now, whether he'd be interesting at all, that's another story...but for sure, Waluigi would be a very very bad choice.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

I don't think characters such as Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter, and Little Mac should be put in brawl. Although they are very popular around here I don't think that one or two games should be enough to get a character in a super smash game. I think a character should have enough games under it's belt to be easily recognizable. I played the original nintendo, and super nintendo but i only know Balloon Fighter, and Mach Rider from their trophies in melee. I think with all of the games Waluigi has been in (the mario sports and mario party games) I think he has more of a chance and is more deserving of a spot then characters with one game who were popluar many years ago

 

[the grim lizard]

I don't think that one or two games should be enough to get a character in a super smash game.

As opposed to zero?

I think with all of the games Waluigi has been in (the mario sports and mario party games)

Those don't count...unless we're going to start putting in Boos, Kameks, Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Paratroopas, Delfino Islanders, etc.

I think he has more of a chance and is more deserving of a spot then characters with one game who were popluar many years ago

He is NOT deserving. He would be boring and there are plenty of other (deserving or not) characters who would be way more fun to play with. We don't need a mediocre character.

 

[petre]

Those don't count...unless we're going to start putting in Boos, Kameks, Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Paratroopas, Delfino Islanders, etc.

i have to admit, id want boo in brawl if there werent so many other awesome choices. but waluigi? no. maybe after the goomba. maybe.

 

[silver777]

a guy few pages back wrote this AMAZING replay about why Waluigi shouldn't be in brawl:

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Waluigi, a history of insignificance

First off the groundwork, to truly understand how horrifically bad Waluigi is. Mario was invented solo, and then they ripped him off with their 2 player creation of Luigi as they simple got rid of the beer belly, made him taller, gave him green overalls and whacked an L on his cap instead. Voila, new playable character for 2 player. Then they needed some kind of rival for Mario, and instead they made an even fatter, uglier version of Mario, called him Wario, put him in some ugly clothes and put a W on his cap. Voila, villain/rival for Mario. At the time, videogames were hardly sophisticated ordeals, story was more than lacking in most cases and innovation wasn't exactly mandatory for a good videogame.

Enter the year 2000, by some kind of magical time machine or something, and we're on the N64 where such games as Banjo-Kazooie, OOT, Mario Kart 64 etc. are practically reinventing genres and setting the bar of excellence left, right and centre. Camelot fired up a lovely Mario sport game for us in the form of Mario Tennis 64. But oh wait, they needed to pad out the roster a bit. As a result of this, Wario's probably incredibly illegitiamte little brother Waluigi was born, created by Camelot for their sport game. Yes, that's right, Waluigi wasn't even invented by Nintendo.

Waluigi is a rip-off in every fibre of his existance. His clothes, stolen from Luigi and then dyed purple, probably using some of Wario's purple dye since it's the same colour I believe as the purple part of Wario's old outfit, cleverly inverting the L in the same fashion as the W is an inverse of M, made him lanky and tall like luigi, made thinner versions of Wario's facial features and made him Wario's younger brother. They even took the "Wa" prefix from Wario and added it onto Luigi which when you think about it makes no sense at all. Considering that at this point games were no longer acceptable as storyless linear adventures, it's no surprise Waluigi hasn't evolved from what he is because what he is is nothing. He's a ripoff of 2 Mario ripoffs, making him a ripoff ripoff, ripoff ripoff. Sweet.

Since then, he has made absolutely no contribution to the Mario universe, other than really being a filler character in all of the party/sports games and playing tacked on minor antagonist roles in some. His big breakthrough was in DDR Mario Mix where he played the main villain, and so his importance is obvious to all 7 people that bought the game . So why do people like him? Well, it's probably the fact that he's similar to Wario in character design *cough*rippedoffcompletely*cough* and so anyone that has a liking to Wario will probably be attracted to Waluigi too. However, evidently Wario has evolved so much more since he now has his own franchise, a new look and a repertoire of toilet humour gags. But will Waluigi ever evolve in the same way? Maybe, but I consider it more in terms of siblings where the older brother was a planned baby and then the younger was more of an...accident. You know, there's bound to be favouritism somewhere along the line.

Waluigi, if included in Brawl, could probably not be much more than a stupid lanky clone of luigi, who's already a clone, so he'd end up being a ripoff ripoff, ripoff ripoff clone of a clone. That's a whole lot of lacking innovation right there. "But no!" I hear Jimmy the Waluigi fan cry, "He has the potential for a completely new moveset!". Yes Jimmy, you're certainly right, he DOES, but the question isn't "What would his new moveset be?" it's "Why should Sakurai waste his time inventing a whole moveset for some unpopular filler character, when there's so many decent Brawl characters with an interesting history, franchise significance, a moveset which writes itself and is actually popular. Hell a character that was actually original in some way would bump Waluigi out.

So what exactly has Waluigi ever done to deserve a spot over possibly hundreds of decent Brawl candidates? Because he shared a partnership with Wario in no more than 2 Tennis games or because he's Wario's brother he desreves in? Would you let an athlete's fat brother in the Olympics on the same merits (although ironically in this analogy the athlete would be Wario and Waluigi being the unfit one)? In truth Waluigi's personality is thinner than Game + Watch, there's generic enemies with more style and neither have a look that would make the first creatures that went onto land want to crawl back into the Primordial Soup.

Sorry if I made a really boring, long post stating the obvious, and while I tried to include a few laughs along the way to make a recap of Waluigi a bit more bearable it's tough when the topic of including him in Brawl makes you want to cry.

To sum up really quite nicely:

Step 1: Keep Waluigi out of Brawl.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

Edit: Rofl, I love Ruigi. That would've been so much more...original too .

Oh and by the way, anyone that comes up with a good step 2 gets a cookie. However you have to beat the standard which I'm going to set of "Step 2: Spend the rest of Brawl's production time burning $100 notes." Make me proud


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Ashley and Red would be more original than him.

 

[the grim lizard]

a guy few pages back wrote this AMAZING replay about why Waluigi shouldn't be in brawl:

That's all good, but I can say it in a nutshell. First, it would be an insult to Wario to put him in (see above). And...

...I can think of plenty of characters who would be WAY more fun to play with than him...to name a few: Dark Samus, Skull Kid, WW Link, Vaati, Midna/Wolf, Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario, Stafy, Little Mac, Mach Rider, Ray01, Takamaru, Poo/Jeff/Paula...HECK, even Pico, Black Shadow, Darunia, K. Rool, Bubbles, 9-volt, Toad, Mike Jones, any of the Metroid Hunters, Knuckles, Gex, Adeleine, Bulbasaur, Charizard, Squirtle, etc. etc.

 

[Indigo4]

I dunno...I see both sides here. :/ I mean, I Personally like Waluigi, because I've always liked Luigi the best...and it seems fitting for him to have a rival. With a rival, he stands out more. However...with limited character space...I'm not so sure having him in here would be the best idea. And I didn't even know he wasn't created by Nintendo. :/ Regardless...he's a cool character...but Brawl material? ehh...I dunno. People don't know him well enough for him to have signiture moves. For example...you look at Pikachu, and say "Duh...electric attacks." Or look at bowser...expect fire! But, what exactly does Waluigi have, besides some bomb attack? I dunno...maybe in SSB4, where I'm sure more charactes will be able to fit. By then, maybe he'll be in some more games, and better known. But in Brawl, where only 35 or 40 characters will be included, I wouldn't expect it.

 

[Micheloxx]

lol, maybe they could put some personal moves in SMBB to waluigi, and add him some personality to che character in the game, or maybe just dont put him in, and wait until the other smb4 come out like indigo said

 

[Wrath`]

i, am just thinking, if waluigi does not make it, it will be around 5-6 years before the next gen comes out,and then another year before the next ssb game comes out, so i think it's do or die time for waluigi right now. But i have confidence

 

[Stryks]

Confidence won't win him a spot in brawl

 

[Diddy Kong]

i, am just thinking, if waluigi does not make it, it will be around 5-6 years before the next gen comes out,and then another year before the next ssb game comes out, so i think it's do or die time for waluigi right now. But i have confidence

Then it's die I guess.

 

[ClarkJables]

lot of waluigi haters on this board wow

 

[domiNate]

I think it'd be cool if his moveset utilized elastic type properties. He's so lanky, why not make him the character with the most range. I can imagine his f-tilt and just seeing his arm stretch out and snap back.

 

[the grim lizard]

lot of waluigi haters on this board wow

Yeah, the thread title should be "the official bag on waluigi thread"

 

[ClarkJables]

i used to be an uber waluigi hater, but after i read the first 20 pages (i think?!?!) my mind was changed and i began to like the idea of him making it in.

 

[Indigo4]

I don't quite understand why people hate Waluigi so much...I mean...what did he do that was so bad? O_o Granted, though he does not stick out in my mind as the greatest Brawl character of all time, I still like his character. He's unique, even if he is simply a sidekick to Wario.

 

[DSB]

Waluigi is a waste of a character slot.
/thread

 

[the grim lizard]

i used to be an uber waluigi hater, but after i read the first 20 pages (i think?!?!) my mind was changed and i began to like the idea of him making it in.

I don't quite understand why people hate Waluigi so much...I mean...what did he do that was so bad? O_o Granted, though he does not stick out in my mind as the greatest Brawl character of all time, I still like his character. He's unique, even if he is simply a sidekick to Wario.

Maybe the character himself. Fine, put him in as a cameo, but not as a playable character. He would be far too boring, and any generic move they could give him they could give to any number of other characters. Besides, I could give you a list of 100 characters who would be more fun to play than Waluigi.

 

[ClarkJables]

he's not even really a sidekick, he has a personality unique to the mario universe, making him the adam sandler of mario games. this of course makes wario chris farely, mario john belushi, and luigi dan akeryod.

and you can't give his swimming move or the dmx crotch chop to any other character

 

[Indigo4]

I like the idea of a cameo a lot. But I agree...Waluigi isn't the best thing to put in a character slot. Perhaps as a NPC Boss, similar to Giga Bowser...just much weaker lol. ;x

 

[Red_Maniac]

Or they can have...GIGA WALUIGI!

 

[Indigo4]

Or they can have...GIGA WALUIGI!

That would be amazing. ;x I just hope that Nintendo makes some really good decisions on their choices. I mean...Pichu was cute...but Brawl material? O_o I wasn't really a fan of any of the clones really. And in a way, that's what scares me the most about Waluigi being added. What if they made him one? -_-()

 

[Tiamat]

I don't see much feasible way to make Waluigi a clone. A clone needs to be anatomically similar to another character. Ganandorf for example could easily be depicted with the same body proportions as Captain Falcon for the most part.

Waluigi, however, doesn't really have anyone with a similar limb-length to body ratio.