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Nice find. I guess that solves the mystery o Greninja's unexpected inclusion in Smash. This would be the perfect argument against those who thought he got in due to popularity since neither Sakurai nor Game Freak expected him to be hugely popular.
I did consider that, but given that the game was delayed by only a month or two and Sonic was clearly shoehorned into the game, it appears that Wolf was going to be our last character before the Blue Blur made it in. I could be wrong, of course, but if it took an extra month or two to add a character and stage, I don't think we would have gotten a 39th (or 40th or 41st) character had the original release schedule been kept.
Is that irony?
Sonic's inclusion might've cut maybe one of the Forbidden Seven, but its highly unlikely that it caused them to cut all of them.
Um, Sakurai confirmed in the roundtable that he wasn't included due to popularity, he was included because they liked the look of the character. And they decided on Greninja long before X/Y.
I wouldn't be too surprised if it turns out Chrom was cut at this rate. It's very odd that they would wait this long to reveal him, not to mention that they revealed Ike before him, even. And that's another theory I feel like could potentially be onto something: Sal's source mistook Ike for Chrom since he has a new look. It's not all that likely, but it does seem entirely possible since they called the "Chorus Kids" the "Chorus Men" and "Greninja" "Pokemon from X/Y."
I don't think its all that likely either. If anything, the name was listed as "Main Character from Fire Emblem Awakening" and he just assumed it to be Chrom. But we'll see if Chrom is in or not.
Hmm, couldn't differentiate Chrom enough, so go back and return a complete clone of Marth, seems legit.
Its not just about that but about how similar Chrom looks to Ike and Marth, and being a third blue-haired main Lord male sword wielder from the same franchise. Making him fight differently is totally different.
Reason being that if Chrom isn't all that different from Marth/Ike, might as well just bring Roy back, whom more people want anyway and make Roy a bit different. Hell, at least Roy LOOKS a bit different from Marth/Ike, whereas Chrom literally took design cues from both Marth and Ike. (That said I can only really see Roy as DLC, I was only joking about Roy.)
To be fair, characters with some bit of cloning tend to be kept secret until release, which may be exactly why we weren't shown Chrom yet.
I don't think anybody is trying to assume what Sakurai would do. We're just trying to speculate on what he potentially could do. Because no one KNOWS what Sakurai would do. That is obvious. We're only trying to look at what we know and think "Might Sakurai really want to do this?"
We've seen the Sneaky Spirit from the E3 demo.
Really dude, a whole litany of the arguments from detractors are based on "they would have done this or that". There's a LOT of assuming.
Honestly, that's just your opinion. Fire Emblem's main shtick is the blue haired swordsman, so I don't see much issue with it.
In their main game, considering they're in basically 2 mini games, all they do is open their mouths and sing, which is why I think they'd pull from the other characters from their game for their moves, like Karate Joe and the Samurai.
There's a lot more to Fire Emblem than blue-haired swordsmen... I've played most of the games in the series.
So have I, but the most memorable main characters have blue hair. Marth, Ike and Chrom are a lot more memorable to say, Roy, Ephiram and Eliwood.
Again...
I'd argue Ephiram was one of the more memorable ones. In general the main lords have VERY little personality/character aside from maybe the hot headed Hector who was also a ladies man. The rest of them were just kind of there fighting and talking about lordship without having a memorable personality. So Ephiram simply using Lances instead of swords made him stick out to me more than the others.
Speculation holds right now that based on what we're seeing in the 3DS/Wii U rosters and filling in the missing Gematsu and veteran characters, there will be about 47 characters total. I'm current speculating on the 51 character roster myself, I think it fits everything better.
People being dumb and thinking the Gematsu leak is all we have left, while also assuming that there can only be 47 characters because that plus random is symmetrical on the character select screen, nevermind that the CSS molds to the roster and not the other way around.
I've tried messing with the CSS by shrinking down the boxes and they look just fine. People should remember that the boxes shrunk and also changed shape in SSBB. Roster size could be anything, doesn't even need to be perfect rows, it could look more like the Melee selection screen.
Which is exactly why trying to speculate the final roster based on how the CSS would look is just dumb.
Oh another character just like Pac-Man, not being able to do enough for a moveset so they must rely on other characters.. sooo exciting.Again...
Source:
Projectile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JErtGVTioPc
Punch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrCTHodtzb4
Side Smash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M37mX3u43kY
I'm going with 50ish IMO. There were "officially" 35 in Brawl and we have 12 newcomers according to the leak. That brings us to 47 if they don't cut a single character. I'm assuming somewhere around 3 cuts, and probably at least as many newcomers as Brawl or Melee (around 14-16) so the Leaker may have left out a few characters like he did with Rosalina (Ridley for example, who has a ton of evidence at this point) since there's only 12 known/rumored ones. So 35 Brawl + 14-16 New comer - 1 to 3 cut characters = around 50. 49, 50, 51, etc. Something like that. 47 seems to be based around the fact that this leak is a list of every single newcomer character in the game and I don't think thats true simply based on the hints at Ridley and the exclusion of Rosalina.Speculation holds right now that based on what we're seeing in the 3DS/Wii U rosters and filling in the missing Gematsu and veteran characters, there will be about 47 characters total. I'm current speculating on the 51 character roster myself, I think it fits everything better.
EDIT:
I'd also argue that the characters who stand out more are the ones that AREN'T just typical blue-haired main sword-wielding Lords. Ike stands out due to his personality and heavy-hitting fighting style, not because he has blue hair.
But this doesn't have anything to do with Gematsu.
Ness uses moves that aren't even his own. Sooo exciting. Game & Watch does what Pac-Man did and just uses moves that come from all different games. Palutena uses moves that Pit uses (although shes the source of said moves since she grants Pit those abilities, so I'll give you that). Fox totally used a Reflector shield, a blaster, and lit himself on fire to fly through the air in his games.
With every breath I take I try to forget Roy and Eliwood. Easily two of the worst times I've ever had with the series was trying to babysit them around the battlefield because neither of them was worth the battery life it took to render their sprite in-game.
Could I share this with the Reddit smash community? xD Oh man... lol! Its so true! Its just missing Issac.
I honestly don't care if the leak is true or not, but this was fun to make regardless.
Because there's nothing really to discuss about Shulk. There's no ambiguity with him, no concern that he would be "too similar" to existing characters, nor anything popping up that could hint at him (such as the Sneaky Spirits popping up in Smash Run).
Sure, if you want to! I can quickly add Isaac if you want.
