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The Official Thread For the Sal Romano/Gematsu Leak

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I think anybody who thinks this leak is wrong and has no credibility is ridiculous.

I also think anybody who thinks this leak has 100% credibility and is definitely right is also ridiculous.
 

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I think anybody who thinks this leak is wrong and has no credibility is ridiculous.

I also think anybody who thinks this leak has 100% credibility and is definitely right is also ridiculous.
I'm on the fence. If a character from that list is revealed, I'm believing it.
 

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Unwatching this thread until new information pops up. You guys are arguing in circles and every viable point has been made. Now most are delving into character discussion and rehashing theories.
 

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I just want to say that this leak shouldn't be completely trusted just because it's gotten significant things "right". I remember shortly after Marvel vs Capcom 3 was revealed a guy posted a "leak" of the games roster, the guy got the Capcom side of characters completely correct (minus him saying Frank West was in, though he was origanlly planned to be in and was removed late in development.) If you had heard that you'd think the leak was true, but he got some things wrong on the Marvel side of characters, proving it was fake. People can just get lucky at guessing characters, not to mention he WAS wrong about Mii, Pac-Man and Little Mac being revealed at E3.
 

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I've been wondering...

Do you think Sal got other details "iffy?"

I mean, Animal Crossing Guy and Pokemon from X and Y are one thing, but do you think it's possible Chorus Men ends up being Marshall or Chrom becomes a Chrom/Lucina tagteam?
 
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That'd be rather farfetched.

It's one thing to have a vague label (Pokémon from X/Y) or a differing moniker than the one actually used (Animal Crossing Guy), but to give a different character's identity (let alone give a singular entity the plural identity of a trio) or list only one character of a duo and somehow make both kinds of contradictory mistakes at the same time is something completely different.
 

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I get the feeling that with Chorus Kids he just thought to himself "Hey, Rhythm Heaven is a popular series maybe I'll add a character from there to my leak, but I don't know anything about the series. I know, I'll just do a google image search on Rhythm Heaven characters and see what I find. Hmm, these chorus kids are some of the first things to show up and they show up quite a lot, they're even on the cover of the DS game, they must be very important to the series, so I'll say they're in Smash.
 

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I've been wondering...

Do you think Sal got other details "iffy?"

I mean, Animal Crossing Guy and Pokemon from X and Y are one thing, but do you think it's possible Chorus Men ends up being Marshall or Chrom becomes a Chrom/Lucina tagteam?
It's possible but doubtful, but for some reason I really want Sal to give us a screenshot of the Email, he could even block out everything(e-mail address his e-mail address) It wouldn't be very hard.
 

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I could see Chorus Men being the original plan, and Marshall being the end result. I still find it incredibly unlikely that Sakurai wants a 3-man team after complaining about the difficulty of programming Ice Climbers on 3DS.

Think about it. 4-player Chorus Men = 12 characters on the screen, 8 of them AI controlled. I can't see that happening without significant lag. Unless it's some other scheme that others have come up with, like they're somehow all one entity. It just sounds iffy.

Marshall, as one character, I could buy - and I know some people think that's enough to discredit the entire leak, but I think it's perfectly realistic that Sakurai had a wild plan earlier on and then later had to compromise.

It's possible but doubtful, but for some reason I really want Sal to give us a screenshot of the Email, he could even block out everything(e-mail address his e-mail address) It wouldn't be very hard.
That wouldn't prove anything as that's not at all hard to fake. Anybody with an e-mail address could compose a letter, throw on some black censor bars, and call it the real deal. I could do it right now, if you want.
 
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I could see Chorus Men being the original plan, and Marshall being the end result. I still find it incredibly suspicious that Sakurai wants a 3-man team after complaining about the difficulty of programming Ice Climbers on 3DS.

Think about it. 4-player Chorus Men = 12 characters on the screen, 8 of them AI controlled. I can't see that happening without significant lag. Unless it's some other scheme that others have come up with, like they're somehow all one entity. It just sounds iffy.

Marshall, as one character, I could buy - and I know some people think that's enough to discredit the entire leak, but I think it's perfectly realistic that Sakurai had a wild plan earlier on and then later had to compromise.
I think they'll all be on entity, it makes sense. Y'know being synchronized and Rhythm.
 

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I think anybody who thinks this leak is wrong and has no credibility is ridiculous.

I also think anybody who thinks this leak has 100% credibility and is definitely right is also ridiculous.
But the leak is going to be either of those things, wrong or right. I promise he isn't going to leak a third leak and say "lol my bad, I meant Black Shadow, not Chorus Men". It's going to be correct, or not correct. 100% either way.

Also, the leak is probably real, so get used to it. Just like people should get used to the fact that Snake/Ivysaur/Squirtle probably won't return.
 

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But the leak is going to be either of those things, wrong or right. I promise he isn't going to leak a third leak and say "lol my bad, I meant Black Shadow, not Chorus Men". It's going to be correct, or not correct. 100% either way.

Also, the leak is probably real, so get used to it. Just like people should get used to the fact that Snake/Ivysaur/Squirtle probably won't return.
I can understand Ivysaur and Squirtle, but Snake's far from being deconfirmed yet.
 

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I think they'll all be on entity, it makes sense. Y'know being synchronized and Rhythm.
There's a guy, actually earlier in this very thread, who linked to a Clayfighters manual with scrapped character ideas, I think? One of them was a trio of smaller characters riding piggyback. I could see something like that happening as far as Chorus Men are concerned. It would certainly solve the issue of having too many characters on screen at once.
 

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There's a guy, actually earlier in this very thread, who linked to a Clayfighters manual with scrapped character ideas, I think? One of them was a trio of smaller characters riding piggyback. I could see something like that happening as far as Chorus Men are concerned. It would certainly solve the issue of having too many characters on screen at once.
I saw that I don't remember what it said though.
Having maybe one of the Chorus Men use the other as a weapon could work too.(I feel this belongs here because it does involve the leak on something that could possibly disprove it. That being the AI's are a B**ch for the 3DS.)
 
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I bet that Sal will leak something else before E3.
Based on what we have so far, it seems that he waits until big events to leak (E3 2013, Smash Direct). So I can see him leaking the final newcomers right before E3.
I kinda hope he doesn't, though.
Oh god I hope so.
 
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I don't trust the leak, but I'm cautiously optimistic. I have personally no problem with anyone on this list.

Chrom is a Must.

Unlike most people I'm excited for Pac-Man, we would then have the 4 Pillars of 8-Bit heroes with Mario, Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man.

Palutena is cool.

Chorus Men would be as epic as WiiFit Trainer. RHYTHM BASED COMBOS!

I'm fine with Miis, they have enough games to warrant it.
 

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There's a guy, actually earlier in this very thread, who linked to a Clayfighters manual with scrapped character ideas, I think? One of them was a trio of smaller characters riding piggyback. I could see something like that happening as far as Chorus Men are concerned. It would certainly solve the issue of having too many characters on screen at once.
I just had to quote this and explain:

Zappa Yow Yow Boys. Yes they were a scrapped charcter for clay fighters 63 1/3. However they are playable in the clay fighter 63 1/3 sculptors cut. A very very rare n64 game

Off topic I know. I just can't help it.

We will know how accurate these predictions are very soon.
 
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I just had to quote this and explain:

Zappa Yow Yow Boys. Yes they were a scrapped charcter for clay fighters 63 1/3. However they are playable in the clay fighter 63 1/3 directors cut. A very very rare n64 game

Off topic I know. I just can't help it.

We will know how accurate these predictions are very soon.
Thanks for the clarification. <3
 

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Does anyone else think that the leaker mistoke the Chorus Men for Marhsal, Miss Ribon, and Cam? Because they are the hosts for the newer game so it would make more sense.
 

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Does anyone else think that the leaker mistoke the Chorus Men for Marhsal, Miss Ribon, and Cam? Because they are the hosts for the newer game so it would make more sense.
Again, it's possible, but doubtful When did that game get announced? It's possible that Smash 4 Had it's final roster done before that game started in Development.
I don't trust the leak, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
May I ask why you don't trust the leak?
 

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Again, it's possible, but doubtful When did that game get announced? It's possible that Smash 4 Had it's final roster done before that game started in Development.


May I ask why you don't trust the leak?
Just because I'm like that. Again, I don't trust the Leak, but it would be nice if it was true. If it is great! If it isn't, that sucks. It is better just to wait and see.

Chorus Kids would have such a cool moveset! Imagine the Luchador being a command grab, and the Cat/Dog planes being an Up-B or something. Don't forget about Rhythm Based Combos!
 
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Does anyone else think that the leaker mistoke the Chorus Men for Marhsal, Miss Ribon, and Cam? Because they are the hosts for the newer game so it would make more sense.
As I've pointed out multiple times in the past, no.

Unlike the case for "Animal Crossing Guy", which was a general moniker for the unnamed protagonist character of the franchise, "Chorus Men" is the actual name for a set of characters. If it were Marshal, Miss Ribbon, and Cam, they would be either "Marshal, Miss Ribbon, and Cam" or something like "Rhythm League".
 

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Unlike most people I'm excited for Pac-Man, we would then have the 4 Pillars of 8-Bit heroes with Mario, Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man.
Hate to be this guy, but in Sonic is a 16-bit hero. An 8-bit version of Sonic exists, but he debuted and gained popularity in 16 glorious bits.
 
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Unwatching this thread until new information pops up. You guys are arguing in circles and every viable point has been made. Now most are delving into character discussion and rehashing theories.
Hopefully we'll get some new information that is related to the leak at E3 2013. I wouldn't be surprised if a hypothetical third leak showed up there.
 

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Hopefully we'll get some new information that is related to the leak at E3 2013. I wouldn't be surprised if a hypothetical third leak showed up there.
I hope we get something that originally confirms it, like Shulk, then a character that disconfirms it.

As much as I like this leak, I still hope there's more to it.
 

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I hope we get something that originally confirms it, like Shulk, then a character that disconfirms it.

As much as I like this leak, I still hope there's more to it.
The only one that wasn't in the leak that I'm confident we will get is Ridley. I mean, why would Nintendo tease us so much to only confirm our disappointment?
 
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I hope we get something that originally confirms it, like Shulk, then a character that disconfirms it.

As much as I like this leak, I still hope there's more to it.
I don't understand the first sentence. Wouldn't you want Shulk and a character you want that's not part of the leak? Unless, of course, I'm misunderstanding you.

I think there's more to this leak. I'm betting at least one more is in the pipeline that we don't know about. Could be more, but how much remains to be seen.
 
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Stay on topic everyone, many of the posts in the past page or so have been getting into character speculation territory, which I should remind goes in each character's respective thread in the Character Forum.
 

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I don't understand the first sentence. Wouldn't you want Shulk and a character you want that's not part of the leak? Unless, of course, I'm misunderstanding you.

I think there's more to this leak. I'm betting at least one more is in the pipeline that we don't know about. Could be more, but how much remains to be seen.
Haha yeah, that's what I tried to say. I've been awake for way too long. Can't even sentence. :oneeye:
 

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I don't dislike Mii because I don't want to play as one, I dislike them because they actually shouldn't be in Smash for a good reason.
I have to respectfully disagree. They are a huge part of Nintendo's history, they actually have the most selling game on the most selling console, Wii Sports. So they have every right.

Their moveset could be based off of sports equipment, music, pilot wings, and Wii Party stuff. So don't say they couldn't make them a moveset when they made one for Wii Fit Trainer.
 

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And that reason is?
For some reason he decided to back down from his dislikement about Mii.

I personally think Mii and Pac-Man would be great additions, but they seem to be the more controversial ones.
 

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For some reason he decided to back down from his dislikement about Mii.

I personally think Mii and Pac-Man would be great additions, but they seem to be the more controversial ones.
I don't mind Mii's. Hating Mii's was so 5 years ago. I've accepted them now, and kinda like them. Actually looking forward to playing as them in Mario Golf.

But Pac-Man... I just don't think he fits. Megaman and Sonic both have a Nintendo-y feel to them, where as Pac-Man just doesn't seem to fit. He works better in SF X Tekken than he ever would in Smash.
 

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Stay on topic everyone, many of the posts in the past page or so have been getting into character speculation territory, which I should remind goes in each character's respective thread in the Character Forum.
If you wish to discuss characters, use the character forum. This thread is specifically for discussing Sal's potential leak.
 

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For some reason he decided to back down from his dislikement about Mii.

I personally think Mii and Pac-Man would be great additions, but they seem to be the more controversial ones.
No, I read the mod's post on discussing characters and decided to delete it.
I have to respectfully disagree. They are a huge part of Nintendo's history, they actually have the most selling game on the most selling console, Wii Sports. So they have every right.

Their moveset could be based off of sports equipment, music, pilot wings, and Wii Party stuff. So don't say they couldn't make them a moveset when they made one for Wii Fit Trainer.
I will say ONE last thing, at the risk of a warning. Mii might've been a good choice if WFT was not already here.
 
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