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Bo come on man! you gotta help! Your community is dying, and you're playing brawl+ which is a part of brawl! If you help, we can potentially have a brawl+ showing! I know a lot of people play in GA and AL. :D
I won't forget. I'm not sure about TVs though, the venue is basically a video-game center, you can go and play whatever you want for a day if you pay like 8 dollars up front. they have this room in the back with like 40 TVs but they might be HDTVs which would cause problems. I'll definitely need help with setups. I only have a cube, and a 64.
I'll talk to the venue sometime next week. I'm taking a summer class and it wraps up this weekend.
EDIT: If this does happen, someone also needs to bring a recording/streaming set up
That can be brought by me, my friend umby has a streaming setup, along with another person scatz. If you can confirm the actual tournament gonig on, I will get some graphics made.
Brawl sucks. SC brawlers suck at a game that sucks. Banning characters is stupid. Play a better game, etc, etc.
SC is not MK banned.
I'm hosting a Brawl tournament every ****ing day in my house with me as Meta Knight and just me. over and over again.
people can host **** with him banned, but you'll have to ****ing kill me to say something as ******** as "SC is a MK-free state" ever, a-****ing-gain.
he's right, in all seriousness, every game has a character that's turbo busted beyond all the other characters.
Hell, some have three of them (MvC2)
however they can be beaten to an extent with serious skill, mind power, etc. You can win, it's just not going to be easy.
People consistently beat Sagat back in SFIV, and hell, the best player in the US used Rufus. Even though Sagat has almost no bad matchups, people beat him.
the past couple of tournaments that were nationals, the outliers of diddy, AND snake, have beaten MKs of high caliber.
Hell, recently Shaky's Ness beat Seibrik's MK on rainbow cruise, a matchup that's considered HORRIBLE on rainbow cruise.
it's a matter of beating smart you see? Not making excuses for yourselves.
Please don't ride this MK ban, he really isn't as bad to manage as you'd think.
Trust me, a lot of characters go even with MK, or at least have 65:35, whcih is manageable with skill, smart stage choices, etc.
Believe it or not Snap I did try to play the game competitively when it first came out, despite how I had a "this is going to turn out bad" feeling the whole time.
Have you played Hungrybox Jigglypuff before Snap? I can assure you it's just about as unpleasant as M2K's Metaknight.
Believe it or not Snap I did try to play the game competitively when it first came out, despite how I had a "this is going to turn out bad" feeling the whole time.
Have you played Hungrybox Jigglypuff before Snap? I can assure you it's just about as unpleasant as M2K's Metaknight.
IMO Jigglypuff is the most frustrating and terrible character ever made. I don't care if MK is her with a sword and gay moves priority and whateverthe****else you want to make a case for. Jigglypuff in Melee is game-changing. You can't play against her like you can anyone else. Most combos don't work. Some combos only work on her. Blah blah blah. I call that game changing. Don't you guys have some stupid rule about the number of times they can grab a ledge?
Brawl players (pardoning Reflex cause we're bros) tend to be morons, for playing the ****ing game to begin with, and then for *****ing about how stupid the game was made when they play it. Get over it, he's a character, you can beat him if you don't suck at the game. Tough up *****.
First off Snap, I want you to realize how bias that is. Jab reset to rest doesn't sound cool to some people, infact it's retardedly dumb to get jabbed, and if you don't you straight up LOSE your stock in one swift move. All hungrybox does in melee (by your logic) is B-air spam, u-throw, rest. That's it. He's just exploiting jigglypuff's character ability and winning based on b-air spamming. That doesn't sound cool at all am I right?
Look at understand where you're getting the idea that MK is busted, because when the game first came out, all of MK's options seemed **** near impossible to pass by, hell, Snake was the same way, even better than MK at one point.
But what happened as the game went on? Things were discovered about other characters that hindered MK as well as other 'top tiers'. Fact of the matter is, MK is still by far the best character, however you guys are blowing it out of proportion. Understand that every game has a top tier character that overpowers the other, however if we were to ban MK, what happens? Snake becomes ridiculously busted, and what will you do then?
Look at SC, you guys banned MK because of Yayuhz, then he used Snake, and you ALMOST banned Snake too. The idea of banning your problems is ridiculous, at the skill level at which you play, you can space efficiently and punish habits that your opponent makes, you can direct your shield upwards to not get shield poked by Tornado, and punish accordingly. The reason you have such a problem with MK comes from yourselves in the community, mixed in with the skill level of MK. You all give up and ban ban ban, instead of finding ways around it.
And TRC, just because Jigglypuff has to be played differently, doesn't make the character game changing. Think about zangief in street fighter, his matchups almost all revolve around running away as much as possible. Does that make him game changing? Not at all, you just have to play it differently, that's how fighting games work, if you could play every match the same way, that would be boring.
Actually pretty sure MK was banned before Yay. I was always under the impression that, as soon as "could he be banned?" was thought up, this state up and said "we're banning him, look at us!!!" then again, not positive.
I did host one non-MK banned tourney where me and Yay won teams as double MK, but Yay won singles with Snake anyway though, if I recall?
That's a good point about Gief, Roxy. I'll just stick to saying I hate the way we have to fight Puff in Melee. It makes me awfully sour.
Now I'm going to finally sit down and watch the series finale of Lost.
We didnt ban MK because of yay, we banned him because one of our devin lost to an mk, so everyone went mk from that moment on, we started looking at national level tournaments everyone was doing the same. Metaknight is a cancer that is eating up and destroying the community. Everyone who plays MK plays him because they know that hes the only character and instantly do better with,Jiggs has nothing on MK. People dont play MK because they say "aw man this character was in one of my favorite games and i like him because he is cool" the way you main young link in melee and i play wario in brawl, the play mk because the say to themselves "aw man, look how fast this guy is, i bet i can do anything i want with this guy." thats just ****ing dumb. MK is the reason i dont play brawl anymore. thats the bottom line. and yay didnt win singles with snake, he lost as snake to Devin and had to go mk to beat him. Who cares, brawl ****ing sucks?
MK deserves to be banned because he has no bad/even matchups every other fighting game with a character like MK bans him. Like soul calibur banning that ****ing weired guy with sould edge and soul calibur, algol? something im unsure.
Mk should be banned because he is unbeatable for over half the cast at the highest level of play.
AND BY THE WAY ROXY im not saying hungrybox wins off of character ability. haha. hungrybox is super duper good and smart. and if you got anything but that out of my post go back and re read it.
ALSO WHERE THE **** DID YOU GET THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO BAN SNAKE?
what a ****ing joke, You obviously know nothing about SC or you would know better. Ive been here since day one and no one ever said a god **** word about banning snake. We never wanted to ban our problems away, we were banning the most broken character in FIGHTING GAME history. Snake is no where near as bad as MK. If its so easy to FIND WAYS AROUND MK. than why didnt you beat foxy at herb 3? why is m2k still winning national level tournaments with up air up air up air tornado? Why is ADHD, the only person beating M2K, calling for a ban as well? its not because we cant beat him, its because the game is designed for him to be unbeatable.
The roman prefix meta means absolute perfection at its highest level.
dude... have you see mvc2? THE SAME CHARACTERS ARE IN THE ENTIRE TOP 8 OF ALMOST EVERY MVC2 TOURNAMENT IN EXISTANCE. AND YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING FUNNY? THERE ARE HIGH TIER CHARACTERS IN MVC2 THAT ARE PRETTY **** GOOD TOO!
I want to stop and say that that caps lock wasn't meant to be mean rage, but seriously, get off your overswarm informed high horse
We didnt ban MK because of yay, we banned him because one of our devin lost to an mk,
think about that decision. you're allowed Devin, who lost to an MK, use his Bias to tear down your community? When you banned MK, you went against the community, GA has no reason to go there, because some of us use MK, and we won't change for them. Did you ever think 'what if devin beat the MK?'. You realize that you guys would've still had MK? That was selfish as **** of him, you should've looked through his bias dude, Marth MK isn't even that bad for Marth.
so everyone went mk from that moment on, we started looking at national level tournaments everyone was doing the same.
If everyone was doing the same, then everyone would main MK. But people still use other characters. You used wario, that makes you a flaw in your own case.
Metaknight is a cancer that is eating up and destroying the community.
He's not destroying the community, you never read omni's post commenting on overswarm did you? Overswarm gave biased information in order to make MK look bad, ignoring things that made MK look okay. The community was stagnant in the beginning, i'll give you that. But that's because melee players played brawl in the beginning, then decided "nah, i'm not going to play this game anymore" and stopped a few months later, hence the huge drop. It had nothing to do with MK
Everyone who plays MK plays him because they know that hes the only character and instantly do better with,Jiggs has nothing on MK.
People dont play MK because they say "aw man this character was in one of my favorite games and i like him because he is cool" the way you main young link in melee and i play wario in brawl,
please don't talk for people that you don't know. M2K used MK because he thought he was cool. When people got on Kismet2 for using Falco, I remember him getting pissed off because he literally only chose Falco because he likes the character, that is it. Some people seriously do that. Sure, there will be people who ride the tier train, but why shouldn't they if he has the best matchups? Does that make them bad people? They have to pay to enter tournaments and expect to win, why wouldn't they want to make their chances better?
the play mk because the say to themselves "aw man, look how fast this guy is, i bet i can do anything i want with this guy."
thats just ****ing dumb. MK is the reason i dont play brawl anymore. thats the bottom line. and yay didnt win singles with snake, he lost as snake to Devin and had to go mk to beat him. Who cares, brawl ****ing sucks?
If you're being absolutely true, and yay seriously lost to devin and went MK to win, then I stand corrected. However, the way you're making it sound, is that he had to do this every tournament, is that the case Bo? Did yay lose every tournament to Devin as Snake before using MK and winning?
MK deserves to be banned because he has no bad/even matchups every other fighting game with a character like MK bans him.
even with Snake. almost even with other top tiers (diddy, ic's, etc.). Please.. if you're going to talk about brawl, play brawl competitively, keep up with the game so that your information is valid..
Like soul calibur banning that ****ing weired guy with sould edge and soul calibur, algol? something im unsure.
Algol isn't banned, he is just different than other characters. Hilde is the character that should be banned by your thoughts, however she isn't, infact people beat her a lot.
Mk should be banned because he is unbeatable for over half the cast at the highest level of play.
that's true, but not most low tiers can beat the entire B tier list either.
AND BY THE WAY ROXY im not saying hungrybox wins off of character ability. haha. hungrybox is super duper good and smart. and if you got anything but that out of my post go back and re read it.
he does have to think about doing a two hit combo for a kill.
a two hit combo that no one else has.
You can bring up the fox shine here, however note that jigglypuff can do this on any part of the stage, even in the beginning of a match. Fox has to pressure them off stage, and can't do it to all characters.
What i'm saying is that jigglypuff does have things that are turbo busted, just like MK, and can be beaten no matter what people think. Tyrant is **** smart, M2K is **** smart, HRNUT is **** smart, Atomsk is **** smart, Seibrik is **** smart and even then, these players lose to Diddy Kongs, Snakes, Luigis, and Falcos who are smarter.
ALSO WHERE THE **** DID YOU GET THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO BAN SNAKE?
what a ****ing joke, You obviously know nothing about SC or you would know better. Ive been here since day one and no one ever said a god **** word about banning snake. We never wanted to ban our problems away,
we were banning the most broken character in FIGHTING GAME history.
i'm going to reassert the idea that you need to know what's going on in the community before you talk. ADHD is a young kid who's only community is Brawl, therefore he doesn't understand the idea that one character usually is significantly better than others.
its not because we cant beat him, its because the game is designed for him to be unbeatable.
dude, Metaknight's name was made back in 1995 or some ****. Do you really think they planned that far?
Don't get mad because I have a difference of opinion, i'm just trying to tell you why MK really doesn't need to banned. No matter how you feel, in the end, you're hurting the SC community by standing out amongst everyone else. You also are losing experience against MKs who live near you because no one wants to play MK-Banned tourneys (well, MKs mains that is)
Ill leave it at two things. Also i love how you broke down my post to sound super duper biased.
1.) money match My mk vs your whatever, ive never played mk before.
2.) The community has voted 3 times on this, everytime the communty voted 60/40 pro ban. why is he not banned? IDK HALF BRAWL BACKROOM PLAY MK MAOR? ROLF DEY STAY MAD.
Who cares honestly? tournament results speak for themselves. Ksizzle speaks for Ksizzle, (and i know you name search im not saying your bad or anything i actually like you) The community can speak for itself as well. MLG will speak for everyone after columbus so i guess it doesn't matter anyway.
dude, you don't get it, you using MK doesn't prove anything. If you are a dumb player, I will beat you.
If you didn't sound biased to me, I wouldn't have explained it as such. I gave you your points if you made good points, but most of the things you said didn't make a lick of sense. Fact of the matter is, I take the game seriously, and I try to learn more about the game. It's cool if you don't play brawl anymore, I'm not stopping you. But don't bash a game you don't know much about, and don't talk about events you don't know either.
If you're going to be trolling again, i'm probably just going to take my leave from the thread.
Lol, i still keep with this game. and i feel like im quite knowledgeable. you caught me on a day where my supply of givea**** was running super low. so yes my argument is a little hollow and on a better day it could have been a good argument.
And im far from dumb and ive never been a dumb player.
this gif may have tipped the argument in snap's favor.
I don't play Brawl and I think it's a terrible game. that said, I also think that SC should just go tournament-by-tournament rather than across-the-board ban.
If I'm wrong i'll take a step back and admit i'm wrong, but you barely said anything worthy. Sure, you could've had a better arguement on a better day. But dude, your eyes are already shielded to MK since you guys barely have MK in your own tournaments. . I don't think you could've said anything substantial even if it's relatively better.
And im far from dumb and ive never been a dumb player.
Okay, well we'll take it this way.. I main Peach now, so you're getting a heavy advantage if we play a set. So here are the rules.
You can't play MK in brawl until the money match.
I mean, if MK requires no skill, you should have no problem winning without practice. Since SC is MK-Banned, and Brawl+ you can use many other characters, not using MK won't be a problem.
. I don't think you could've said anything substantial even if it's relatively better.