Check it. SNBM's super awesome Sora Moveset/Alt Colors/Final Smash/Alternate Moveset/Recovery and Grab stuff/Stage!?!/KH ATs/Other stuff Thread!. Im going to be editing and updating it every once and a while. throwing in Stages and stuff like that. I dont care if its off topic if we get sora the next thing we're going to want is a stage. and AT.
I did -NONE- of these artworks,Videos,or Music tracks. unless I say I did. Almost evereything in this thread is an opinion. Except for afew things like "Sora is owned by Disney" and "Hes really popular in Japan" and stuff. for evereything except the moveset stuff I gave people credit where it was due. (the moveset is just too much to keep track of.)
Links
This is the link for the Sora for Brawl Icon.
I posted this in that thread that has a list of Icons.
This is a better Sora for Brawl Icon.
Also on The Icon thread. (Thanks ComeradCanada)
Samurai Panda's Sora thread. why cant I be that awesome. X.X
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74814
Reasons to be in Brawl
Yellow = Samurai Panda's original ideas.
1.Popular in Japan and america
2.Sakurai is trying to keep the game style with the current day styles (example: Pit)
3.
Sora is more recognizeable throughout the general gaming population of the 21st century.
4.He'd fit perfectly into the game.
hes got the style Sakurai is looking for. and in SSE he'd be right at home.
5. Hes on Sakurai's pole. that gives him a way better chance than people who arent.
6. We're supposed to be getting -alot- of third party characters (Says sakurai in an interview sometime after the push back.) also boosting sora's chances
7. Sora is owned by Disney. he isnt going to be taking up any Square Enix spots. I'd Lawnmower my Brawl disk if Hannah Montana got in as a Disney rep over Sora.
Sora Supporter Section
Just ask and I'll add you.
1.Superninjabreadman
2.SJAK47
3.Paramore Riot
4.Nothing rhymes with Circus
5.Finalark (he didnt ask, but I know he supports so w/e)
6.Magicly Enhanced Hobo
7.Vesperview
8.Blasphemy
9.Reckoning A16
Greatest Fights in Kingdom Hearts (I and II)
This Section Is prettymuch what Fights Inspire alot of my Ideas.
1. Sora and Riku vs. Xemnas (KH II final fight)
2.Sora Donald and Goofy vs. Ansem(Heartless) (KH I final fight)
3. Roxas vs. Twilight Thorn (First Boss fight of KH II)
4. Sora vs. Roxas (World that never was, it was a Cutscene)
5. Riku vs. Roxas (Flashback in KH II)
6. Roxas vs. Axel (Second time, Axel uses really cool fire moves, Roxas w/ 2 keys)
7. Sora vs. Riku (KH I the second time you face him in Hollow Bastion, Before he turns into ansem)
8.Sora vs. Leon/Squall (KH I mini boss fight in Traverse Town, 1st time)
9. Sora and Axel vs. Nobody army (Really sad scene in KH II, awesome though)
10. Sora vs. Darkside (any time. its not that great of a Fight.. but its still pretty cool)
Stats
Since I'm not too good at stats, I'll leave that too others.
SNBM to the rescue! Im basing the stats off whats in my incredibly ripped up Melee guide book.
Kk.
Size: 4/5. Thats what they gave link. and if we're using the KHII sora. then thats about right
Weight: 3/5 Also what they gave link, These two have about the same Body type.
Power: 4/5 Sora has some decent attacks. alot of his physical attacks have alot of knockback.
Attack Speed: 4/5: Almost all of Sora's attacks (magic and stuff like Explosion are exceptions)Start up very fast, unlike Ikes.
Speed: 3/5 Sora is fairly quick. somthing Link dosent have
Jump: 3/5. He definatley -isnt- Kirby.
I think these stats are pretty well balanced. The only one I left out was "Usage" because it'd be a 5/5 for almost evereyone here.
Alt Colors
Sorry for the diffrent Picture Sizes : ( I just randomly grabed these of the Interwebs.
Normal outfit from KHII. One of the best I'd say.
Red team is Valor Form.
Blue team is Wisdom Form.
Green team is this awesome Recolor that Kirby Superstar did for me. Possibly has the Kings Key?
Next we have the Limit form (Final Mix II). More of a retro look. Sorry I couldent find a pic that looked like the others
Shadow Form. Just because evereyone is Getting one. Possibly has Dark Keyblade (same as Kingdom Key, except all black or dark grey)
and last but not Least. Master and Final Form(if it isnt Final Smash.)
Normal Moves
Good killing moves Made
Green
Good Combo starters in
Blue
Neutral A combo: A+A+A: Anyone who has ever played thru a KH game knows what this needs to be. The basic 1-2-3 combo that sora does. last attack is super strong, lots of knockback. (Not Ike Super Strong)
Alt Neutral A Combo: A+A+A+A: there's that upgrade you can get that lets you add another attack to the Combo. this would make for a longer Combo.
Alt Neutral A Combo 2: A+however many the max combo is In KHII. I've been playing the game. Working on my form levels. I have like... amillion +Combo things on. So to keep a decent Neutral A combo like Marth's or Link's, I think they should throw in 6? Maybe? IDK. Battles are too confuzzling to count.
Up tilt:Upper Slash: sends opponent flying into air. not too much damage though
Down tilt:Stabs at ground with keyblade. Like Mew2's Down smash
Side tilt:Slapshot: Rapidly Attacks target (Straight from the game)
Up Smash:Thunder: Just like Pikas Down Special except smaller. sorta like Zelda's Air A down
Alt Up Smash: Keyblade Spin (I made it up :D): Sora raises his hand up in the air and the keyblade spins around, hovering above it. The spin is centered around the middle of the keyblade. not the Hilt. the middle. The blade and Hilt combined.
Down Smash: Gravity: Smashes Anyone next to sora onto the ground and sends them flying up afterwards
Side Smash: Sheild Breaker. Same as in the game. Strong knockback and evereything
Air A: Swings Keyblade. Nothing special.
Air A down: Stab with the Keyblade straight down. Not as OMG OWN as Links and has more range.(good Meteor.)
Air A up:Swings Keyblade in an arc above his head. Bringing the rest of his body around in a circle with it. Think Backflip sword swing thing. Like Marth's
Air A side: Swings Keyblade. Stronger and with slightly longer range. Moves sora to the side a little. Helps with Recovery. a little.
Special moves
Killing moves labeled
green
Combo starters labeled
Blue
Neutral B: Explosion: afew energy balls spin around Sora. not a finishing move for sure. sorta like links Up B
Alt Neutral B: Fire (or Upgrade of): Does the same thing. except smaller and less like energy, more like fire
Down B:Reflect:Reflects ranged and Blocks physical. Like zelda's neutral B.
Alt Down B:Aero: Does same thing. prettymuch. yeah. maybe it just blocks both projectiles and Physical? I cant see a tornado sending a missle back at a tank or W/E
Alt Down B 2:Counter Guard: Skill In KH2. Would work the exact same as Roys counter. or marths counter. Most likely a mix between the 2
Alt down B 3:Reaction Command: No Reaction Command Comes to mind that fits everey situation. but Its worth a shot
Forward B: Key Raid: Throws Keyblade. Keyblade comes back. Like links Boomerang. Shorter distance. More powerfull. The only problem with this is that sora cant attack without his keyblade like Link can w/o his boomerang...
Alt Forward B:Sonic Dash: He got it from cloud. Like Foxs B> except a little slower. Shorter Distance. Stronger.
UP B: Aerial Spiral: Jumps at enimies and spins (like a wheel for those who dont remember the attacK) Closing in on them. Like links B^ again but sideways. shorter sword range. Can move diagonal with it? Sora would jump into the air (think Shorthop) and you have about that much time to choose your direction.. then you go that direction.
Alt Up B: Glide: Sora flys. wow. Peter Pan FTW? Only prob I see is in non-Peter Pan world flying you cant really go up. in Peter Pan world Flying Its alot like Final Smash flying. Decent Idea.
Dodges, Taunts, Grabs, Recovery and Entry
Left or Right Dodge:Reversal: well.. its reversal. Kinda hard to forget.
Stationary Dodge: Cant think up too much for this... I supose he'd just duck or get out of the way or whatever.
Recovery attack: when getting up (after you've been knocked over) It'd be Retaliating slash.
Alt Recovery attack: Does some cool Breakdance spin thing and gets up.
Edge Recovery (No attack): Sora Pulls himself up onto the edge (like in KH I)
Edge Recovery attack: Same as above. Maybe a little different.
Edge Recovery w/ Long jump thing: Sora pulls himself up. flying over the head of his enemies and landing behind them. and i'll throw in a cool spinny trick just for fun.
Taunts: The three taunts that he does in KH1 Olyimpus (I forget if he does the same ones in KH2 I think so).
Grab: Grabs enemy with free hand
Up Throw:Throws enemy up in air and hits them with keyblade
Alt Up throw: Throws enemy at Diagonal and uses Ice. Like Mew2's or Fox/Falcos Throws
Side Throw: Throws Enemy to the side. Followed by a Keyblade swing.
Down Throw: Throws enemy below him and does afew quick slashes with keyblade then they fly upward. Like Ness' Down throw except with less fire..
Attack during grab: Smack 'em with the hilt of your keyblade. or the blade of the keyblade. Hilt is alot better I think.
Entry Idea 1: Sora falls from the sky and hits the ground strikeing the pose shown in the Usless pic section.(See bottem of post.)
Entry Idea 2: Gummi Ship swoops down, Sora gets out. Prettymuch a C. Falcon thing. (No mention of Donald or Goofy in it.)
Final Smash
Final Smash Idea 1: Final Form. Like a Mix of Sonic's and Wario's Final Smash. Has Oathkeeper and Oblivion. all attacks are super strong. hes faster (think marth with bunny hood.) B^ is fly. like a Super Sonic Style fly. All "A" attacks hit TWICE per attack. thus sugjests the Two Keyblades. I guess the keyblades would just float around him like Mew2 when he has Items.
Final Smash Idea 2: Team up with Riku(all ends) or Roxas(IDK itd be awesome though): Like All ends. The only prob with doing this is buying rights to 2 third party chars instead of one.
Final Smash Idea 3: Anti-Form. Hey. I didnt come up with it. But it -was- an Idea.
Final Smash Idea 4: Ragnarok. I supose this would be like Marios.... More Lazer-ish though... Im not too much of a fan for this one. But I'd be happy with it.
Final Smash Idea 5: Okay. evereyone Remembers XIII swords and stuff like that from the All ends attack(Team up with riku) in KHII right? Im thinking one of those. But sora could do them on his own. Possibly the one where the Keyblade Gets all Glowy, Lightsaber like and Huge. swing that around instead of the keyblade for a while? That'd be an Epic Final Smash. It'd be prettymuch how Sephy would play.
Final Smash Idea 6: Sora goes wisdom form(I think It would work with Final form too) and shoots lazers at peoples. then finishes with Blits, From KH: CoM (Vid here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSg-VFRSKk&feature=related ) Blits is at about 30 seconds.
Final Smash Idea 7: Sora shoots a light beam straight up in the air, a portal opens and heartless come out. randomly attacking peeps.
Final Smash Idea 8: Trinity: Sora gets super armor and flies at enemy, sword swinging. (like links or Ikes Final I guess.)
Final Smash Idea 9: World Lock: Sora fires a beam of light up into the air and lots more come down, 20-40 Damage, meteor smashes, dont jump off stage durring this attack! sora is free to move.
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Music
Yeah. Music. Diddnt do any of these vids.
Dearly Beloved:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...317&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
The Main menu music. Its an amazing song.(by Yoko.) They could possibly add a little guitar in and make it rock... Prolly not going to make it. But its the first thing that comes to mind musicly when I think of KH.
One Winged Angel:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...257&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Sephy boss fight. ownage. End of story.
Deep Anxiety:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=79&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
It was battle music for some of the more important/actiony battles. It'd work great in brawl. for the beggining they could have brought the drums up some more and after they came in it could have gone down a little.. Just a musiciain's oppinion though.
Dark Shrouding Cloud:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Nothing about the blonde dude here. Its a awesome song. Cant remember what battles its from though
Boss Ideas and AT ideas.
Boss Idea 1:
This Guy is The First boss you face in Kingdom Hearts II.... Twighlight Thorn. Its also (in my opinion) one of the coolest fights in the game (Final Fight is Better...)
Intro to the fight
You have to get into this Fight -somehow- Im going to guess a Giant Final Destination Sized platform (Like in the P.P. Fight. except more KHish but not w/ the pics of Sora or the Princess'... maybe the Ancient Minister?. maybe Sora (and Other? I'll take sugjestions later.) get pushed through one of the portals that Org XIII uses all the time... Leading to a Giant platform. They wake up (next cutscene?) and look around. then *BAM!* the Giant Nobody hits the ground behind them. they turn around and it goes to the characater select screen. (Lets say we pick Sora) and the other team member gets sent flying.
Boss Playstyle
This Boss would be a bit diffrent than Petey. He would fight on Battlefield, Instead of to the Side like Petey. He wouldent move around too much. just launch those little Twilight Lightning things at you. His Size would be about that of Giga Bowser. yeah. he moves kinda like Voldo, From SoulCalibur, and Sorta like wario. In general, (alongside all Nobodies aside from Org XIII) this guy moves Jerky and Weird.
His only Weak Point is his head. and he has a pretty good amount of health.
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First Half of the Fight
He prettymuch just Launches Twighlight Thorns at you. And He prettymuch Just stays on one side of the stage.
Attack one: Punch: He Punches you.. wow.
Attack two: Twiglightning (Lol): Fires that cool white lightning stuff at you (Think Master hands Lasers except cooler and straight forward, not at ground)
Attack three: Low sweep: Gets down low and extends arm, sweeping over the entire stage (except for Opposite Edge) Jump to dodge it.
Second Half of the fight
He tips the stage on its side! the Boss fight switches to Sidescrolling action! you -have- to move.
Attack one: Flies behind you. fireing a Giant energy ball (Really. Really Hard to Dodge. Dosent do this very often)
Attack two: flys to the side of the stage. and fires other energy balls at you.
Third half of the fight
Alot like the first. except with afew moves from the second. happens after a small cutscene, stage flips back over to normal.
Attack one: Punch 1-2: Punches twice. wow again.
Attack two: Twighlightning 2: Faster this time and it locks on, but it dosent change course
Attack three: Double Low- Sweep: Lowsweeps twice. wooaaaah
Attack Four: Flys to the Side of the stage, Lots and lots of energy balls. comes around to other side and lands.
Attack Five: Multi Attack: Slams his head(multiple times) at you and claws at you with his... hands and cool Scarf thing.
Attack Six: Covers the exspanse of the stage and slams his Limbs into the ground. little twighlight thorns start popping out of the stage (gives a good opening to the head. attack activates pretty fast)
After Battle
Goes to cutscene where he has you in the cool Energy ball containment thing (play boss fight and you'll know what i mean). Your partner comes back and delivers the finishing blow, setting you free. You exit via portal and your back in this map here. The main map for SSE (Lol already been released)
Note: they could -very- easily add an Island Like Destiny Islands to this map.
P.S. You'll understand this alot better if you play the bossfight.
heres a vid: http: //video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4248372329315981914&q=Roxas+vs.+Twilight+Thorn&total=22&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3
AT Idea 1:
Okay. now we have a Assist Trophy Idea:
Axel
He's from Org XIII
all the moves are based off the Roxas vs. Axel (2) and Sora + Axel vs. Nobodies.
Yes, there are spoilers. and Yes, I will mark them.
Heres a Pic:
afew stats:
Size: really skinny, its kinda creepy, taller than link. about ganondorf size
Element: Fire. if you didnt notice.
Rarity (as an AT): Dunno.
Videos (Spoilers!)
Roxas vs. Axel:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...437&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Sora + Axel vs. Nobodies:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...157&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6
Gameplay
You grab the Assist Trophy! Axel comes out and does his trademark weapon spin thing (showin in vids) And runs around and swings at random enemies afew times, then he says "got it Memorized?" he then forms a fire wall. (about as big as from the middle of the top platform on Battlefield, to the edge, Yes I know this isnt fair on smaller stages like Yoshi's place but w/e). he then hops to the outside of the firewall (it goes alllll the way up the screen. untill you go out of Camera veiw) and it burns every time you touch it, he then dashes through, using a cool flame attack thing, and out the other side. he goes back and forth 3 or 4 times, giving time for people to hit the ground again (you get bounced into Fire wall after you get hit.) he ends with a Fire explosion (about as big as fire wall, think bullet bill in Peaches castle, but wiht better fire graphics) and hits the ground, and then dissapears like at the end of the second vid.
History
Post Made 12/9/07
I.Ragnarok Final Smash Idea 12/9/07
II.Expanded Intro Section 12/9/07
III.Stats, Sora for Brawl Icon, Better Alt Color discriptions, Alt Usmash 12/10/07
IV. New Neutral A possibility, New Final Smash Possibility. 12/11/07
V. Edit Final Smash Name 12/11/07
VI. Edit Aerial A up text 12/12/07
VII. New Final Smash Ideas, Changed "edit list" name to History 12/14/07
VIII. New pic at beginning of post. Reasons to be included in Brawl Section added. 12/14/07
IX. Links to other Sora threads. Samurai Panda Credit. a little bit of Recovery stuff 12/14/07
X. Music section added! Dearly Beloved, one winged angel and Deep anxiety 12/15/07
XI. More music :D Shrouding Dark Cloud. Awesome useless Picture. 12/15/07
XII. Added New Sora support Icon. and Credit to ComradeCanada 12/15/07
XIII.Changed Stats. +1 attack. 12/16/07
XIV.Fixed Music Links. Alt B^ move added. Entry Idea added. 12/16/07
XV. Awesome useless pictures section added More words in Intro 12/16/07
XVI. Another Entry Idea put in. More explination on Final Smash. 12/17/07
XVII. Added afew more pics to useless pic section. renamed it "Awesome Pictures" because they arent so useless. 12/18/07
XVIII. Added New final smash Idea: Trinity Sora Supporter Section added 12/19/07
XIX. New Sora supporter added(1) fixed Trinity Final Smash. Reminder to rate thread 5 stars 12/19/07
XX. Good Killing Moves clearly stated by labeling Green Combos Labeled Blue. B^ idea text edited 12/19/07
XXI. More Sora Supporters added. Boss Idea added. 12/20/07
XXII. KH best fights section added, Spoiler text edited in reasons to be in brawl. 12/21/07
XXIII. New Sora Supporter added, I'll no longer be adding a post to the History section when A new Supporter shows up. 12/21/07
XXIV.Added new stat: Attack speed. Keyblade Ideas added to alternate Colors.
XXV. Axel AT idea, added vid to Boss Idea.
Awesome pictures.
Lol PG-13. Awesome Artwork.
more awesome. I wish I had a keyblade X.X
LOL SORA CONFIRMED LOL.
A possible KH symbol. saying the Mickey Mouse head is either a "No way!" or a "Yeah, it prettymuch has to be that".
Just seemed Like a bad Idea to let this pic go to waste when the thread closes.
Longest Post I've ever done. Sora for Brawl! woo!