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[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'd still just wait until Diancie gets officially released.

Unfortunately, Diancie got screwed by not having Power Gem in its movepool. You'd have to go the mixed sweeping path if you want to take advantage of Moonblast and Diamond Storm; based on Serebii's inputs, Diamond Storm is a physical attack.

Anyway, I finished raising my Trick Room Carbink today, and it also doubles as a Stealth Rock user.

 

[UltiMario]

The official webpages for Diancie show it using Power Gem- it's quite clear at this point that the event Diance will be distributed with Power Gem.

 

[IsmaR]

Even with the buff, Power Gem isn't very good. Rock's never really excelled as a special attacking type. Regardless I think Moonblast is enough for a support set. It gets screwed by Steel types anyway, so it's not like it'll be staying in against them.

 

[Fluttershy]

Does anyone have a poison touch croagunk. i lost my access to them and didn't catch one prior..

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Does anyone have a poison touch croagunk. i lost my access to them and didn't catch one prior..

I have access to a Toxicroak safari.

Edit: Just caught one for you.

 

[Fluttershy]

I have access to a Toxicroak safari.

Edit: Just caught one for you.

Ok what would you want in return i have some of the leftovers from the other page that I've mentioned or if you want I'm working on Analytic elgyem with cosmic power, and ally switch right now though I just started on it..

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Ok what would you want in return i have some of the leftovers from the other page that I've mentioned or if you want I'm working on Analytic elgyem with cosmic power, and ally switch right now though I just started on it..

Anything is fine. For now I just need help evolving my Haunter...

Edit: Never mind the Haunter...I evolved it with someone else.

 

[BaPr]

I have some questions about pledge moves.
1. When you use the pledge moves, do you get an increase in priority or is there something else that affects it to make you move first.
If it is an increased priority move, what moves go before it?
2. When both pledges combine, is the special attack from the Pokemon that moved first, second, or both?
3. If I used a grass/water pledge, would the joined pledge be grass, water, or would it be both?
4 can I have more than one combined pledge move at the same time (I use grass/fire pledge turn one and use fire/water pledge second turn)?

 

[Fluttershy]

I fought someone that used the pledges and from what i saw they don't have priority and the first pokemon that used it "waits for another move to be used". As for whether or not another can be used after the four turns they are in effect idk i didn't see any other area effect other than the swamp field during the battle. i didn't seem to have saved the match.

 

[BaPr]

I was wondering if they did, because my Chesnaught outsped my smeargle in a triple battle and it has a lower speed stat.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I have some questions about pledge moves.
1. When you use the pledge moves, do you get an increase in priority or is there something else that affects it to make you move first.
If it is an increased priority move, what moves go before it?
2. When both pledges combine, is the special attack from the Pokemon that moved first, second, or both?
3. If I used a grass/water pledge, would the joined pledge be grass, water, or would it be both?
4 can I have more than one combined pledge move at the same time (I use grass/fire pledge turn one and use fire/water pledge second turn)?

As far as I know, they both combine and activate on the turn of the slower Pokemon. I don't know about the others as I have never tried using them. However, if you use all three attacks on the same turn, only two will combine.

@ Fluttershy When would you like to trade?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I was wondering if they did, because my Chesnaught outsped my smeargle in a triple battle and it has a lower speed stat.

Have you checked to see what nature your Smeargle is using, and how high its Speed IV is? I do know that it's possible for a Mega Ampharos to outspeed Smeargle, if Smeargle has no EV investment for its Speed.

 

[BaPr]

My smeargle has the highest possible speed possible (max IV EV +nature) and my chesnaught has no ev investment in speed. It still moves before smeargle. Maybe it's because my charizard is faster than smeargle, so my chesnaught moves right after. So many reasons why lol.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

My smeargle has the highest possible speed possible (max IV EV +nature) and my chesnaught has no ev investment in speed. It still moves before smeargle. Maybe it's because my charizard is faster than smeargle, so my chesnaught moves right after. So many reasons why lol.

Maybe your Smeargle's speed got lowered at some point during the match. Also, the Lagging Tail causes the item holder to always go last if everyone uses a move of the same priority level.

 

[Respectre]

I highly doubt someone would run Lagging Tail/Iron Ball on Smeargle, let alone go on to ask why it moved slower.

I have some questions about pledge moves.
1. When you use the pledge moves, do you get an increase in priority or is there something else that affects it to make you move first.
If it is an increased priority move, what moves go before it?
2. When both pledges combine, is the special attack from the Pokemon that moved first, second, or both?
3. If I used a grass/water pledge, would the joined pledge be grass, water, or would it be both?
4 can I have more than one combined pledge move at the same time (I use grass/fire pledge turn one and use fire/water pledge second turn)?

1. Apparently, the fact that the faster Pokemon used a pledge allows the slower Pokemon to use its own right after. I would bring up video, but the moves were demonstrated on Wild Pokemon and with the uncertainty of the IVs/EVs of the users. With what you seem to have experience, there really can't be another possibility. Your own battle vid (or Showdown replay, if that's the case) would help clarify the situation if you can provide one.
2. The second Pokemon is the one using the attack, so its Sp.Atk is the one that is used. The resulting move does get doubled in power however, leading to a potential 240 Base Power move if the 2nd Pokemon gains STAB and the resulting move is its own type.
3. Whichever would have the type advantage will be the resulting type. Water/Fire = Water, Fire/Grass = Fire, Water/Grass = Grass.

 

[BaPr]

I got one from the Battle Maison. 6X5G-WWWW-WWW6-K7WM
I had a scarfed smeargle in this battle and my other two pokemon had no items. You only have to watch turns 1-3. I also decided to name both of my charizards Sun God. Also, here is my actual battle vid for the week. ZE2G-WWWW-WWW6-K7AW

 

[Fluttershy]

@ MewtwoMaster2002 It'll have to be on Monday with the hotspot resetting then.. might try and make a team to utilize water/grass pledge and tailwind..

 

[BaPr]

That would backfire a lot if you went against a trick room team. Does water/grass pledge affect levitate/flying types?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

That would backfire a lot if you went against a trick room team. Does water/grass pledge affect levitate/flying types?

If they're not Ground-type attacks, they should work. Bulbapedia has all the information, if you want to check.

 

[Fluttershy]

Might have to get a taunt user to prevent tr from used and force them to switch out. Bulbapedia didn't mention anything about flying/levitate users so I'm guessing it effects them as well..

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Might have to get a taunt user to prevent tr from used and force them to switch out. Bulbapedia didn't mention anything about flying/levitate users so I'm guessing it effects them as well..

Water/grass pledge will be a grass type attack, so it should work...just not very effective on flying types.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Taunt is only a temporary counter against Trick Room though, and that can be neutralized by the Mental Herb.

However, if you have a Trick Room user use Imprison, it'll seal off Trick Room for all the opposing Pokemon, and the move will remain sealed until the Imprison user gets taken out of the picture.

 

[BaPr]

Just wondering, because the sea of fire only works on any pokemon other than fire types, so I thought that a swamp wouldn't affect flying/levitating pokemon. Also, taunt won't work against oblivious Pokemon.

 

[Fluttershy]

Yeah that's what i was thinking when i first saw it. Thought it would have worked the same as electric terrain, or grass terrain..

 

[Respectre]

Having both Grass/Water Pledge and Tailwind is rather overkill, don't you think?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Having both Grass/Water Pledge and Tailwind is rather overkill, don't you think?

That can depend on if the opponent has anything that can counter the speed drops or not. Also, Tailwind does increase your odds of outspeeding the next Pokemon that enters the battle, which isn't the case with the Water/Grass Pledge combination.

 

[BaPr]

Tailwind+grass/water pledge would almost guarantee outspeeding the opponent. Plus, it will work really well against tailwind teams since you have the swamp and tailwind. However, I believe that rainbow+tailwind would be the better option. Assuming this is for triple battles, you can have a Charizard, Talonflame, and greninja out. Talonflame uses tailwind and charizard and greninja use their pledges. Now you can use moves like air slash, heat wave, scald and ice beam with a better chance of getting the secondary effect. I'm just using those pokemon as examples though.

 

[Fluttershy]

@ MewtwoMaster2002 I'd also like to get your completed friend safari pokemon for my Y version for the German gut iv dittos tomorrow.

 

[BaPr]

Anyone else find it disappointing that both male and female meowstic have the same stats? I thought that the male would have more defensive stats while the female had more offensive stats.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Anyone else find it disappointing that both male and female meowstic have the same stats? I thought that the male would have more defensive stats while the female had more offensive stats.

That is rather odd, but that has happened before with Unfezant.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

@ MewtwoMaster2002 I'd also like to get your completed friend safari pokemon for my Y version for the German gut iv dittos tomorrow.

I would be working from 3:30-8PM PST. Anytime before or after could work.

 

[Fluttershy]

I would be working from 3:30-8PM PST. Anytime before or after could work.

Ok I'll be able to get online around 2:30 pm and I'm in the eastern time zone so around 10:30 am for pst..

 

[Respectre]

For what it's capable of, I don't find Meowstic disappointing in either male or female form.

 

[BaPr]

I guess. I've never used Female anyways, so I wouldn't know how it works. Male is my favorite because of its support options. One of my friends asked me to trade my VGC team that I'm working on and he will give them back with a gift. I expected him to give some really useful item, but he made them all shiny. I'm not complaining (except one looks gross when shiny), but I thought there wasn't an Action Replay (or whatever he used) for the 3DS.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I guess. I've never used Female anyways, so I wouldn't know how it works. Male is my favorite because of its support options. One of my friends asked me to trade my VGC team that I'm working on and he will give them back with a gift. I expected him to give some really useful item, but he made them all shiny. I'm not complaining (except one looks gross when shiny), but I thought there wasn't an Action Replay (or whatever he used) for the 3DS.

There is a cheating device that can do that to XY now...that is how some people have been getting Latiosite and Latiasite.

 

[Respectre]

Meowstic-M is undoubtedly a great support that can be tailored to what you need whether it's Quick Guard, Helping Hand, Imprison, as well as other options that get boosted priority. It's a fast Prankster, slower only than Liepard in VGC.

With Intimidate being a common thing in VGC and the new ability in Competitive, I really wanted to try it out with Gothitelle and Meowstic-F; a +2 Sp.Atk boost for a Atk drop can be a real threat if it decides to fire off attacks.

The other VGC legal Pokemon that can use it is Wigglytuff, but I'm rather reluctant in giving it a shot.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

My female Meowstic does try to utilize Stored Power, and the Competitive ability would help it even further once the Calm Minds have done their job. But considering how mediocre Meowstic's defenses are, trying to pull off two Calm Minds can be difficult on most occasions.

 

[Fluttershy]

Meowstic does have access to barrier and could run it with CM but it doesn't have a good recovery move iirc edit thanks mewtwo now i just need to identify the ditto's 31 stats in German which may prove to be a challenge..

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

@ MewtwoMaster2002 It'll have to be on Monday with the hotspot resetting then.. might try and make a team to utilize water/grass pledge and tailwind..

Thanks for Elgyem. Did you get completed Ditto Safari for Y version?

 

[BaPr]

I have a question about shiny chaining. If I close the 3DS while chain fishing or using the pokeradar, will it mess anything up? I don't believe it affects breeding, since it isn't a chain.