The Official Michigan Brawl Power Rankings: Season 11 Images Up!

[JTsm]

Deetroitttt!!!!

 

[Kel]

I have my meeting from 4:00 - 5:30. I will be eating lunch at Matsuchan Ramen. Other than that, I am free until the next day when I have to drive down to Ohio for another meeting the next day.

 

[Roller]

Panel members. Check the group regularly until we finalize the list.

 

[JTsm]

So skynet is the last tourney of the Season?

 

[Hot_ArmS]

nooo

pingas pingas

 

[JTsm]

PINGASSSSS

I hope SPAU is the season finisher too.....

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

We will be reaching a conclusion of this list very soon.

SPAU will be the Season 6 opener.

And I will finally be forced to update the OP lmao.

 

[JTsm]

Finally.... jeezz

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Pretty sure we have finished the new PR. With confirmation from the other panelists, I will post the new list. Then sometime after work, I'll edit the OP.

 

[JTsm]

Yayyy I can't wait!

 

[Ori_bro]

I'll start the image as soon as I get them pics :I

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Eh **** it we pretty much agreed in the PR group:

Congratulations to all those who have made it on Season 5's PR! This is our updated PR:

1. Zinoto - - Ann Arbor

2. Roller - - Ann Arbor

3. Rayquaza07 + - Canton

4. Mikey Lenetia - Washington Township

5. Lain - Ann Arbor

6. Coco - Bay City

7/8. Tech_Chase + - Ferndale

7/8. Tutu - Ann Arbor

We were unable to resolve the tie between myself and Tutu. Its just way too close so we left it as a tie. The second one we've had in 5 seasons. Congrats also go to Lain and Tutu for being veterans and being on the PR for all 5 seasons!

 

[Apasher]

5. Lain

I need to get used to that.

 

[Ori_bro]

For the first time since 09-10, lain is no longer the face of MI, the #1 ranked player. History has been made.

The image will be up today, hopefully...

And trust me

its going to be sexy as usual

 

[DtJ Composer]

No offense to Zinoto but he's a very misleading face of MI.
Being that he's polite, modest, constructive, and that he shows up for matches on time, I think a lot of people will start getting the wrong idea.

 

[Sparta Kick]

3. Rayquaza07 + - Canton

I approve.

 

[Ori_bro]

No offense to Zinoto but he's a very misleading face of MI.
Being that he's polite, modest, constructive, and that he shows up for matches on time, I think a lot of people will start getting the wrong idea.

-dead-

I approve.

LOL

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Not gonna lie...I legit LOLed at Composer's post.

 

[Damittom]

Even tho lain isn't the player he used to be I think this is a good sign for mi. We are all getting better and I think this pr shows mi has been revived. Good **** to tech, ori, and all those TOs that stuck it out and kept mi alive.

 

[JTsm]

IMO Tech should be 7th, but that's just me.

LOL yeah idk... Zinoto is just too good for MI xD

 

[DRDN]

Is this really rAys first time being on pr?

Looking at the pr list a isse some improvement from the people who were close before...still waiting on ori to step it up...but lains position seems more like his inactivity I'm waiting to see some of the new faces try to get up here....lots of work to do though

 

[Ralph Cecil]

SK isn't on there? O-o

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

the freest PR yet

 

[Roller]

SK isn't on there? O-o

He only went to one tourney, where he underperformed =/

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

why is lain 5th

also why is zinoto 1st? it seems to me like you guys weigh losses a lot more than wins (i'm not on the list). zinoto has losses to mikey, roller, and rayquaza. if i were to do the list i'd honestly probably put rayquaza at #1. he's only lost once.

 

[Ori_bro]

Some small things that went into the process are

Wins, Losses, Actvity thats all I got off the top of my head.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Rayquaza should not be rewarded for dodging tournaments. That's bull****.

 

[What's The Point]

Zinoto has never lost to Roller and the one time he lost to Mikey he won the losers bracket rematch. Roller does have a better win but Zinoto has shown himself to do better on average, usually by beating Roller directly at all MI tournaments. Rayquaza technically only lost once but he only went to two tournaments with the lowest amount of skilled players. Zinoto and Roller both went to many tournaments and always had good results. Doing good all the time is more valuable then doing good once or twice (And doing good once or twice but then bad every other time is even worse).

Gio isn't on the list because you beat Sean but then did nothing in MI. You'd expect the guy who beat Sean to be able to win some games in MI. All johns are ignored in favor of results.

 

[Gifts]

Not to mention Rage straight up left GF's of PS2 forfeiting to Zinoto pretty much.

 

[Roller]

I'm not sure if you're asking why Lain is #5 because you feel he is too low/high(when is he not amirite?)/inactive. So I'll address all of those.

Lain entered APEX and PS3, so he did in fact meet the activity requirement for the PR.

here are his (relevant) stats

Lain:
Wins: Domo, Tech
Losses: Sky, Zero, Mikey, Kain

Every single person listed above Lain has a better win than Domo. Mikey has Lain himself (and Zinoto), Ray has Zinoto, I have Kingtoon, Zinoto has me x3 (also Rage if you think that is more notable). We also all have another win (if not 2-8 more wins) which are better than Tech.

Tutu and Tech also have better wins, but tutu only has Zinoto, and nothing else, so Lain's 2 wins and no losses to people who don't have the potential to win tourneys trumps him.

Coco has shown he can beat the people below him, with multiple wins over Tutu and a win over Tech, and his worse loss being fZk, who was PR'ed before going inactive.


To address why first 3 are in the order they are... (Copy/Pasted from PR Discussion Group)

"Rage's wins: Zinoto x2, Mikey, Roller, Tech
Roller's wins: KingToon, Speed, Coco x2, Tech x2, Fizzle, DLA

kingtoon>Zinoto x2 imo.
Tech x2>Tech
Fizzle=Roller (Fizzle was 3-0 with Roller before vengeance, don't think it's a stretch)
Speed+DLA+Coco x2>Mikey

Rage showed up for 2 tourneys, left early from one, before having to face his toughest competition, went just barely better than even with Zinoto over 3 sets filled with close games, to the point his wins over him could easily be argued as flukes.

Roller entered every single tournament, consistently placed high, placed highest out of state at VENGEANCE the biggest tourney this season outside of APEX, it could easily be argued Roller performed better than the rest of MI at APEX as well, Both the last 2 tourneys Roller has outplaced everyone else, his single loss this season to a player who has not won tourneys he went mk after losing game 1 WTP style (then proceeded to run through all of losers up to LFs).

Yeah, Rage doesn't have that anomalous loss, but he has actively avoided tourneys where he thinks he may lose. And left before his hardest sets at one of the 1.5 tourneys he attended.

Where as Roller has been the most active player in the state, attending every single tourney, and has significantly more (and arguably better) wins than he (Rage) does. If consistency does matter as we claim it does, why would his fewer and possibly less notable wins put him above the player with the most consistency/wins/best out of state accomplishments. (especially when PRs are used for OoS seeding)"

Zinoto over me should be obvious. He has beaten me 3 consecutive times this season, along with Mikey, Tako, and plenty of others. He has more and better wins overall than Rage, and has shown consistency even at events featuring top players.

You (Gio) aren't on the list because after you beat Sean, a win comparable to the 7/8 placers (Zinoto&SK being theirs) you proceeded not to win any more significant matches, and lost less significant ones than PR #s 6-8 did. Their wins are roughly equal to yours, so when we go to the consistency and losses as tie breakers, yeah you came out below them.

Your losses at MK banned tourneys did not count against you tho, btw.

 

[JTsm]

Okay, everything makes sense now with Lain being 5th and pretty much everything else.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

Coco has shown he can beat the people below him, with multiple wins over Tutu and a win over Tech, and his worse loss being fZk, who was PR'ed before going inactive

i fail to see how this is better than beating sean. he flew from california to the biggest smash tournament of all time and had to beat me to get out of round 1 pools. so obviously he was trying his best and no johns and stuff.

how does my loss to ori at a 17 man tournament outweigh beating sean at the biggest tournament ever?? do you guys consider the importance of the matches? i left ICE early. it was clearly extremely important. :eyeroll:

 

[Ori_bro]

Coco is a lot more consistent than you. Thats what he is trying to get at.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

consistently mediocre. yeah and coco is gonna go to apex and beat sean

next season i'm just gonna pull a rage and only enter tournaments where i'll do well or only enter 2 and try at both and get 1st or something lol

 

[Roller]

I mean, are you arguing that you should be #6? Above players who have beaten Zinoto (better than Sean imo) and SK (also better than Sean, imo)?

 

[Hot_ArmS]

lets do this gio

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

I mean, are you arguing that you should be #6? Above players who have beaten Zinoto (better than Sean imo) and SK (also better than Sean, imo)?

if zinoto and SK were better than sean (which i dont think they are)

i guess i'd say put me at 8th and take coco off the list.


completely ignoring me, i have no idea why coco is above tutu or tech. that should be changed.


if you guys are going to weigh wins over losses, roller should be #1 and i should be on the list. if you guys do losses over wins, rayquaza is #1 and coco is 8th

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

You still left early...you didn't really give us much to work with Gio....

Yes, you beat Sean. Good stuff.

You still lost to a unranked/never ranked player and that's all we could based off of that one event. PS3 didn't do anything for you as well.

I fail to see how you should be ranked above Coco who is more consistent and beat a player who was ranked above him that season twice as we'll as another PRed player.

Or Tutu who has beaten Zinoto the new number 1 player.

Or myself who beat the number 2 for the previous season and has another PR win. And on top of that I have shown consistency with my results than span across every tourney this season minus ICE.
..the smallest event.

I don't get how you think you should be ranked with/above Coco, Tutu or myself.

You are not as consistent as any of us.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

lol gio no offense but zinoto and sk would body Sean

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Who's Sean? O-o