The Official "Megaman in SSBB" Topic!

[Ninjuku]

The ZX & DASH games all contain a lot of backtracking. Rockman has always had repetitive gameplay, & have always been "the same game over and over". Yea, the tutorials are a bit annoying, but they only take 5 minutes, if even.

Edit:
Besides DASH, EXE is the only Rockman subseries that has a plot even remotely similar to the original series'.

I dont mean to be rude but never compare DASH to RMBN!!!
DASH is in the main series...
I covered this a long while back...
1. In RM Zero 3&4, you cogld observe reaver-bot-esc eyes in various areas and on certain enemies...
2. Prometheus, helmet greatly resembles the skull of a reaverbot...
3. In ZX, one could find blueprints for a "Project Heaven", or as you may know it Elysia...
4. Rockaman Juno refers to Trigger as an irregular, "maverick".
5. In the flashback-ish moments in DASH 2, Trigger was classified as a Irregular Hunter.
6. In RM Zero, there is an energy crisis, the energy being stored in crystals as in the crystals you search for in DASH in the ruins of the ancient cities due a long-standing energy crisis...
7. Just look at Model V's final form in RM ZX...

 

[error_alt_delete]

I think ZX is what happened directly after the end of megaman X, but it is from zero's(is it the same zero?) point of view.

 

[Pluvius]

You don't need to tell me about the sequence of games, believe me. I'm fully aware that it goes Rockman --> Rockman X --> Rockman Zero --> Rockman ZX --> Rockman DASH, & that EXE & Ryuusei are their own seperate universe.

 

[Ninjuku]

I think ZX is what happened directly after the end of megaman X, but it is from zero's(is it the same zero?) point of view.

Its Rockman->Rockman X->Rockman Zero->Rockman ZX->Rockman DASH

RM Zero is set 100 years after X...
X is long dead-ish...
Copy-X rules the world...
X's spirit helps you overthrow him...
turns out X sacrificed himself in a war over an entity known as the Dark Fairy...
Zero's true body was stolen, and his mind was downloaded into a new body before the games...
Zero's true body used to build Omega by Dr. Weil...
Zero destroys Omega...
Zero kind-of kills Weil, who merges himself with his space-station and smashes it into the earth...
Zero is believed to be dead...body-wise...

100 years later
ZX

The Legendary heroes were converted years ago into live-metal beings so they could merge with "chosen ones" when they were needed...
Models Z and X were found, not made...
Serpent finds Model V (W in America) a shard of the space station containing Weil's spirit...
Serpent attacks the users of Models Z and X...
Girouette, the model Z user, sacrifices himself to save Vent/Aile the Model X user...
Vent/Aile combines Models Z and X to become Rockman ZX...
You beat a buncha bosses...
Prometheus and Pandora kick you around...
You fight and destroy Serpent...
Play ZX A...
Ow my wrist...

EDIT: Oh and DASH is 1000 years after ZX

 

[error_alt_delete]

so that means that the battles X fought to kill the "dark fairy" were never made into games? can anybody say opening for megaman X 9+?

 

[AuraLancer]

so that means that the battles X fought to kill the "dark fairy" were never made into games? can anybody say opening for megaman X 9+?

So then Mega Man 9 and X9 are both going to be depressing. May be thats why they haven't been made yet.

 

[Ninjuku]

so that means that the battles X fought to kill the "dark fairy" were never made into games? can anybody say opening for megaman X 9+?

X doesnt kill Dark Elf/Fairy, just imprison it within his body, thus deactivating himself...
His body is destroyed dark elf/fairy freed in Zero 2...
and yes I see a Rockman: Cyber Elf/Fairy Wars in concept

Yeah, theres a whole war to detail...
remember the maverick wars???eh, eh???

 

[Ninjuku]

So then Mega Man 9 and X9 are both going to be depressing. May be thats why they haven't been made yet.

on that note, I dont think they care...
Most of the X games involved Zero dying in some way, Zero killing his girlfriend, or Zero turning evil and nearly killing you...
Zero is a focus point of pure depression...

 

[error_alt_delete]

all battles are deppresing to one side or the other, and it would be denile if we didnt think megaman (or X but his life kinda sucks in general) would ever have a sad but fitting ending. besides, its ok to cry once in a while...also megaman 9 and/or X9 wouldnt necisarily be the ending, it can go all the way to ten, but that might be pushing it.

 

[Ninjuku]

all battles are deppresing to one side or the other, and it would be denile if we didnt think megaman (or X but his life kinda sucks in general) would ever have a sad but fitting ending. besides, its ok to cry once in a while...also megaman 9 and/or X9 wouldnt necisarily be the ending, it can go all the way to ten, but that might be pushing it.

What part of Cyber Elf Wars do you not understand???
WARS!!!
The Maverick Wars lasted 8+ games, why cant the Cyber Elf Wars???
And for a reploid that loves peace, yes X's life does suck...
So does Zero's...
Blown up twice...
killed his girl-friend...
initial source of the Sigma virus...
Shot through the torso and ripped apart by Sigma in a game INTRO...
Woke up 100 years early from his cryo. nap...
Brought into a foreign war...
Forced to destroy his own true body...
Forced to sacrifice himself for the greater good...
and hes really dead this time...
all they find of him is a shattered helmet...
talk about a horrible life...
I dont know how to explain Model Z...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Megaman 1-8 is more like a friendly rivalry where anyone that get's hurt is rebuilt...

A work with an incompetent mad scientist trying to take over the world and his bumbling robots...

Then BAM...Apocalypse...

 

[error_alt_delete]

Megaman 1-8 is more like a friendly rivalry where anyone that get's hurt is rebuilt...

A work with an incompetent mad scientist trying to take over the world and his bumbling robots...

Then BAM...Apocalypse...

oh no, destroying cities isnt freindly rivalry...
it all was bound to go bad once wily made doctor lights robots evil...
dont forget doctor wily created zero(or something like that) so this all kinda is because of willy. if wily hadnt betrayed Dr.light, doctor light wouldnt have made megaman a fighter, if megaman wasnt a fighter wily wouldnt have tried to make bass and zero, if zero wasnt created, there might not be a virus turing reploids into mavericks, if there was no virus sigma wouldnt have went evil. if sigma didnt go evil...you know the rest...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

oh no, destroying cities isnt freindly rivalry...
it all was bound to go bad once wily made doctor lights robots evil...
dont forget doctor wily created zero(or something like that) so this all kinda is because of willy. if wily hadnt betrayed Dr.light, doctor light wouldnt have made megaman a fighter, if megaman wasnt a fighter wily wouldnt have tried to make bass and zero, if zero wasnt created, there might not be a virus turing reploids into mavericks, if there was no virus sigma wouldnt have went evil. if sigma didnt go evil...you know the rest...

C'mon...

SPRING MAN..

It seems more like good old clean Robot Battle fun...Not like anyone really dies...

 

[Ninjuku]

oh no, destroying cities isnt freindly rivalry...
it all was bound to go bad once wily made doctor lights robots evil...
dont forget doctor wily created zero(or something like that) so this all kinda is because of willy. if wily hadnt betrayed Dr.light, doctor light wouldnt have made megaman a fighter, if megaman wasnt a fighter wily wouldnt have tried to make bass and zero, if zero wasnt created, there might not be a virus turing reploids into mavericks, if there was no virus sigma wouldnt have went evil. if sigma didnt go evil...you know the rest...

Quite right...
No Wily, no Rockman (just Rock), no Forte, finished Blues, good robot masters, no zero, no Wily virus (W on Zero's forehead when fighting Sigma), no Sigma virus, no Irregular Wars, no power shortage...
wow...no Elysia...No Rockman Trigger...

 

[AuraLancer]

C'mon...

SPRING MAN..

It seems more like good old clean Robot Battle fun...Not like anyone really dies...

Dr. Wily doesn't think its friendly. Also, what about Mega Man's Internal conflict on trying to kill Wily?

 

[Ninjuku]

Dr. Wily doesn't think its friendly. Also, what about Mega Man's Internal conflict on trying to kill Wily?

Rock was a robot, not a reploid...
Meaning he didnt have enotions, just simulated emotional reactions...
He was never ordered to kill Wily...
Only apprehend, shooting only to disable...
3 laws...
blah blah blah...

 

[Pluvius]

So then Mega Man 9 and X9 are both going to be depressing. May be thats why they haven't been made yet.

Why would Rockman 9 be depressing?

Rock was a robot, not a reploid...
Meaning he didnt have enotions, just simulated emotional reactions...
He was never ordered to kill Wily...
Only apprehend, shooting only to disable...
3 laws...
blah blah blah...

3 laws? Those aren't at all relevant.

 

[Ninjuku]

Why would Rockman 9 be depressing?

3 laws? Those aren't at all relevant.

rock would have programmed with the 3 laws...
no free will=bound to laws/programming...
1. must not kill humans
2. must preserve self
3. 1 comes before 2

 

[AuraLancer]

Why would Rockman 9 be depressing?

Oh yeah, you weren't here for that check here

Er...I can't seem to find our discussion. Just read this then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quint_%28Mega_Man%29

 

[RDK]

rock would have programmed with the 3 laws...
no free will=bound to laws/programming...
1. must not kill humans
2. must preserve self
3. 1 comes before 2

Since when were the three laws of robotics applicable to Megaman? They aren't in any of his games.

 

[Rex+]

rock would have programmed with the 3 laws...
no free will=bound to laws/programming...
1. must not kill humans
2. must preserve self
3. 1 comes before 2

In the intro for Mega Man X, Dr. Light's message specifically states all three laws.
Mega Man was a robot all under Light's control; X has complete free will and abides by the three laws as he does so.

EDIT: RDK, you're actually wrong.

 

[AuraLancer]

Oh yeah, you weren't here for that check here

Er...I can't seem to find our discussion. Just read this then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quint_%28Mega_Man%29

Mega Man is stuck in a "Time loop o' doom" as Error puts it.

 

[Ninjuku]

Oh yeah, you weren't here for that check here

Er...I can't seem to find our discussion. Just read this then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quint_%28Mega_Man%29

So old Rock turns evil...
and uses a pogo-stick as a weapon...
yeah...
right...

 

[RDK]

EDIT: RDK, you're actually wrong.

WTF? Is that even possible? Lol.

 

[Ninjuku]

In the intro for Mega Man X, Dr. Light's message specifically states all three laws.
Mega Man was a robot all under Light's control; X has complete free will and abides by the three laws as he does so.

EDIT: RDK, you're actually wrong.

by choice though...
he could go on a murderous rampage if he wanted to, but hes not that kinda person...
could I use Zero as an example???

 

[Rex+]

WTF? Is that even possible? Lol.

Actually, yes it is.

 

[Rex+]

by choice though...
he could go on a murderous rampage if he wanted to, but hes not that kinda person...

That's what I meant by "free will."
Why do you think Dr. Light specifically stated that X had the potential to wipe out the human race?

EDIT: Whoops, double post.

 

[RDK]

Actually, yes it is.

*GTFO PIC*

Oh. So that's how it is then.

*SHUN*

 

[Ninjuku]

That's what I meant by "free will."
Why do you think Dr. Light specifically stated that X had the potential to wipe out the human race?

EDIT: Whoops, double post.

Sorry, I misread it...
But I was gonna use the whole Zero vs. Weil thing, but...
yeah...
hey Im a journeyman now...

 

[Rex+]

Oh. So that's how it is then.

*SHUN*

I pressed it.

 

[RDK]

*WIN PIC*

I pressed it.

Stop pressing me. It tickles.

 

[Ninjuku]

did I miss the Rockman reference in this???
Or are u just being human???
Such strange beings you humans are...

 

[Tlaloc]

Never heard of the 3 laws in the Mega Man universe, plus the Robot Master I sure hurt humans and Rock tried to kill Wily at the end of MM7.

 

[Ninjuku]

Never heard of the 3 laws in the Mega Man universe, plus the Robot Master I sure hurt humans and Rock tried to kill Wily at the end of MM7.

Not kill, disable...with a plasma blaster...
and yes Light talks about the laws in X

 

[Rex+]

Stop pressing me. It tickles.

I am so sorry.

I own MM7, don't remember him trying to do anything to Wily...

 

[RDK]

I own MM7, don't remember him trying to do anything to Wily...

I thought at the end of MM7, MM is wrestling with whether or not he should kill Wily.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I thought at the end of MM7, MM is wrestling with whether or not he should kill Wily.

If he does, it's more do with the flaw of the 3 laws...

Like I Robot

 

[Ninjuku]

Honestly, I dont think thats the case...
He was a robotm there would have been no deliberation, follow the path closest to his commands as dictated by his programming...
obviously, he wasnt programned to kill...

 

[Rex+]

If he does, it's more do with the flaw of the 3 laws...

Like I Robot

The funny thing is that whenever someone brings up the 3 laws, I start thinking about I. Robot.
"Well, you know what they say; Laws are meant to be broken."

 

[Ninjuku]

The funny thing is that whenever someone brings up the 3 laws, I start thinking about I. Robot.
"Well, you know what they say; Laws are meant to be broken."

-sigh-
blah... blah... blah...
argue same point...
see what ive already posted...