vesperview
Smash Hero
I don't know if he would shout PK Love, the attack is generic either way, it wouldn't make too much sense.
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The Official Claus (The Masked Man) for SSBB thread, Mother 3 Spoilers
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Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
Why wouldn't he shout PK Love? Isn't there a scene in MOTHER 3 that implies that the Masked Boy talks at some point off screen? If I recall, when Lucas picks up a cell phone belonging to the MB, the person talking to him says that he and Lucas sound the same or at least similar.
Also, how wouldn't the attack make any sense? We never actually see and PK move in action and it's not like they have to be accurate.
Super Smash Master
Smash Lord
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I don't think Claus should talk. He is too badass to talk. But this makes me wonder if they're gonna give Lucas a cooler voice. Not the whiney one ness had.
vesperview
Smash Hero
You can hear a little of Lucas's voice in a Smash Bros video, about the PK Love thing, I don't really like the attack, I'd be much happier if it didn't show up at all.
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
We already have a small snippet of Lucas' voice.
vesperview
Smash Hero
I didn't really like his voice though, I think Ness was better in that department, gotta wait to hear more of it though, I think Claus should have a robotic voice if he's going to have one either way.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
And it definitely doesn't sound all that good.
I just listened to the voice snippet again and he sounds like Mickey Mouse. Evil corporations confirmed?
vesperview
Smash Hero
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
Donald Duck: Kumatora
Goofy: Duster
Pete: Flint
Pluto: Boney
Minnie: Hinawa?
??????: Claus
vesperview
Smash Hero
Good question, I have no idea.
I don't think anyone fits.
T-major
Smash Champion
it hold NO ground at all... Vesperview is right; people who use the "TOO MENY SORDZ! LAWL!!1" argument are stupid. there are nine times more fist fighters then there are Sword users, but they don't complain about them... it's really hypocritical, and unjustified...
and Lyn and Goroh are AT's because Sakurai is getting rid of Takamaru's competition (and really, Lyn didn't have enough priority over other Lords). he obviously wants him to be the only Samurai type character in Brawl.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
You're right about they're being more fist fighters. I've come to realize that, however, there are many styles of physical fighting and there are many styles of sword fighting. Although, I wish that at least we get some that are more distinct in differences like Ike.
As for Takamaru, you make a point. I believe those two and Grey Fox used katana so it may happen.
SinisterLizard
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Actually, it's perfectly legitimate. With most sword-wielders that is all they are going to use. The diversity falls off pretty quickly. When you look at characters like Marth and Roy where their movesets are pretty bland and basically consist of generic sword attacks, it's no wonder people are saying that. I'm willing to bet this is a reason Goroh was given the boot, two. He would just be another run and slash sword character. And look, that's exactly what he does as an AT.
If more sword characters were like Link, it would be fine. He has projectile specials; plus he has some kick moves, too. Plus, you seriously exaggerate how many "fist fighters" there are:
- Fox and Falco only use kicks other than their specials.
- Bowser uses claw, shell, head attacks.
- Peach uses her dress of all things as well as her butt (in addition to slaps).
- Pikachu uses electric and tail attacks.
- Ness/Lucas use psi attacks and toy attacks (bat/yoyo/etc.) with the occasional kick or headbutt.
- Pokemon Trainer has three Pokemon who will all more than likely have all attacks specific to their elements and body types (like Pikachu).
- Zelda really has no melee attacks at all but are all magic/energy attacks.
- Mewtwo is similar...energy attacks with tail attacks.
- Yoshi uses tail and head attacks.
- Ice Climbers use hammers. Nuff said.
- Same goes for Dedede.
So, that leaves your "fist fighters" to Mario/Luigi, Kirby, Jiggs, Falcon, Sheik, Donkey Kong, Sonic, Snake, Diddy Kong. If they could diversify how the sword fighters fight as much as these guys, then great. But completely different attack techniques are always more appreciated. So far, Link, Meta Knight, Pit, and Ike all have fairly different styles. A few more swordsmen would be fine assuming they kept them as different from these guys as say Captain Falcon is with say Kirby or Donkey Kong. A whole bunch of Marth wannabes running around would be terrible.
Also, just to correct your math, that's only twice as many fist-fighters (maybe) as sword-fighters (counting Jiggs, Sheik, Falcon, Luigi and Marth). Where the heck did you come up with "nine times"??
vesperview
Smash Hero
The sword argument really holds no ground here, Claus has a lot more than a sword to rely on, sort of like Isaac or Ganondorf.
SinisterLizard
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It's not an argument, just a clarification. I get tired of people lumping together all of the non-sword users. The non-sword users are multitudes more diverse than the sword-wielders are from one another.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
While that is true, I'm willing to bet that his primary weapon of choice will be his sword, just like Link.
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
While I hope that he'll have a Beam from his cannon as a Special, he can use the beam for A attacks too. Look at Samus. He could hit you with the cannon, and shoot small blasts of energy for some A attacks, plus his sword... AND look at his head, he just HAS to Headbutt.
T-major
Smash Champion
no. it doesn't. Swords styles have the ability to be just as diverse (maybe more so) than non-weapon users. if you had a lick of creativity you would know that...
so? Fox and Falco have generic kung fu type moves, nobody complains about them. lots of people wanted Little Mac to be playable, but he would use a boxing style, which is INCREDIBLY generic... so don't use that as a reason, because it's hypocritical...
the slightest bit of creativity would make you realize how original and different he could be; so your logic fails worse than Scientology...
you know what I meant... stop taking things so literally
Luckily for us, it's extremely easy to make sword users different from each other.
I know that... I was over-exaggerating to say that there are way more non-sword users than there are sword users... I'm surprised anyone could mistake this as being literal... loosen up, bud...
now, don't bother arguing any of that, because not only am I: A) right, but B) I don't really care. this doesn't apply to Claus in the slightest, so it should be discussed here in the first place.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
Without a doubt, he'll probably have a beam special attack. I've said it already, Claus can easily be a mix of other fighters.
Big-Cat
Challenge accepted.
Oh, the irony.
Ouendanation
Smash Ace
Uh, vesperview, could we change the MMPMA rules so that if someone has a rank, they can show they're that rank by either putting the image in their sig, OR putting "MMPMA-[Rank here]"? I'm geting annoyed with the image, it's messing up the spacing in my sig, and I thought that other people might have te same problem. Or we could change the images to little bars the size of the MMPMA bar so they'd fit next to it. I think that would be the best option, but A) I have no clue how I would make them and B) I don't want to have to redo it all. But if you want, I could.
Can anyone say voting (once again)?
Can anyone say voting (once again)?
vesperview
Smash Hero
No voting please, just replace it with the text you said at the beginning.Uh, vesperview, could we change the MMPMA rules so that if someone has a rank, they can show they're that rank by either putting the image in their sig, OR putting "MMPMA-[Rank here]"? I'm geting annoyed with the image, it's messing up the spacing in my sig, and I thought that other people might have te same problem. Or we could change the images to little bars the size of the MMPMA bar so they'd fit next to it. I think that would be the best option, but A) I have no clue how I would make them and B) I don't want to have to redo it all. But if you want, I could.
Can anyone say voting (once again)?
Ouendanation
Smash Ace
http://chaos.cannisgroup.net/motherwallpaper.png
I made a MOTHER3 wallpaper ^^ (Spoilers)
Comments welcomed. (I had to reuse some sprites; I ran out, and had to begin using back attack sprites and such) It might be a little hard to see icons on your desktop, but just press Ctrl+A on your desktop and it should become a little easier to read.
And the background is a blown up, blended, and filtered version of Masked Man's battle background.
(This thing took much freaking effort and time to make -__-; )
I made a MOTHER3 wallpaper ^^ (Spoilers)
Comments welcomed. (I had to reuse some sprites; I ran out, and had to begin using back attack sprites and such) It might be a little hard to see icons on your desktop, but just press Ctrl+A on your desktop and it should become a little easier to read.
And the background is a blown up, blended, and filtered version of Masked Man's battle background.
(This thing took much freaking effort and time to make -__-; )
T-major
Smash Champion
thats a flippin' SWEET background Ouen! I can tell it took a lot of time and effort! for that, you receive....
I would use it if it didn't have so much stuff in it (I'm not one for "active" backgrounds)
I would use it if it didn't have so much stuff in it (I'm not one for "active" backgrounds)
Symphony X
Smash Lord
I would like to join the MMPMA. I just recently stumbled upon Claus, and think he would be the perfect addition to Brawl.
Hope you don't mind, I already added the banner.
Hope you don't mind, I already added the banner.
MegatronPwnsYou
Smash Lord
Holy ****! New background added. :bigthumbu Nice stuff there.
FlyinG ShoosteR
Smash Apprentice
yeah this thread converted me into a Claus supporter too
I'm current playing through Earthbound, and hopefully Mother 3 will be translated by the time I finish. I already spoiled it though
I'm current playing through Earthbound, and hopefully Mother 3 will be translated by the time I finish. I already spoiled it though
vesperview
Smash Hero
Does anyone have pictures or a map of the Thunder Tower from Mother 3? I can't seem to find any and I wanted to make Claus's stage suggestions.
I could rip some pictures.*NOTE!I own the officail versa=ion of MOTHER 3, but still, I'll rip em.*
Ouendanation
Smash Ace
I can rip them tomorrow right from the rom, and perfectly clear. Do you mean actual screens of the entire thing, or the actual MAP (R button map)
Don't bother. I can get perfectly clear images, and I have access to the debug room.hyruleboi said:
Alright... Since it's Dec 3rd, I'll reveal the super awesome special MOTHER prokect I'm making.
It's a MOTHER tribute video! BUT it will not just have footage of the games; it will have fanart, and if anyone has any other suggestions, let me know, and I'll probably add it
I'm using "With Pollyanna" in Starmen.net's rock candy 3. If anyone thinks a different song would be better, PLEASE tell me. Oh, and if you want your fanart in it, just post it, or a link, and I'll put it in.vesperview
Smash Hero
Both would be great, unless is too much trouble.
Alas, I used the debug room, but it looks like Itoi was WAAYYYYY ahead of cheater like me(I'd
also like to note that I have the game in both forms.), he placed a pig mask with police baracades
guarding the way when Duster almost gets zapped by lightning going after the egg.
I went that far back because the guy won't give you the map or let you in if you haven't done a certain unknown something first.
Any idea of a walk-through-walls cheat?
also like to note that I have the game in both forms.), he placed a pig mask with police baracades
guarding the way when Duster almost gets zapped by lightning going after the egg.
I went that far back because the guy won't give you the map or let you in if you haven't done a certain unknown something first.
Any idea of a walk-through-walls cheat?
Symphony X
Smash Lord
So I'm new to the whole Claus idea. Without fanboy/girl bias, what are his realistic chances of joining Brawl?
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
His odds stand at probable, leaning on somewhat likely. He is Lucas's brother, as important as he is to the story, and was requested as much as Lucas. Besides, with Lucatora, add in Claus and Mother 3 has all the reps it needs, why not go for full completion when it would only take adding one character? Besides, Sakurai did work on Mother 3, so he's familiar with the character. (Lucas' moves must have slipped his mind though...)
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
Might PM you something later, if I can get my scanner to work. Please tell me you read my suggestions on the most memorable Mother moments!!I can rip them tomorrow right from the rom, and perfectly clear. Do you mean actual screens of the entire thing, or the actual MAP (R button map)
Don't bother. I can get perfectly clear images, and I have access to the debug room.
Alright... Since it's Dec 3rd, I'll reveal the super awesome special MOTHER prokect I'm making.
It's a MOTHER tribute video! BUT it will not just have footage of the games; it will have fanart, and if anyone has any other suggestions, let me know, and I'll probably add it