~The OFFICIAL Bomberman Thread~

[Legolastom]

Arguments against him.

He doesn't deserve the spot: His entire series sells badly, his game are all the same apart from the occasional rubbish Mini game collection, he had the worst game ever the grace the X-Box 360.

All those are contributing factors against why he doesn't deserve it. All I am saying is don't make **** up.

 

[RDK]

"Bad" (which is subjective, BTW) games are definetely not grounds for un-inclusion in Brawl. Look at most all of MM's recent games.

Also, sales have nothing to do with it either. Look at Wario--he's in, most likely representing the WW franchise, whose sales are dwarfed in comparison to MM's, or anybody already in Brawl.

 

[~N9NE~]

Arguments against him. He doesn't deserve the spot: His entire series sells badly

Character inclusion is not based on game sales and if it were, Bomberman's total of 10 million sales far exceeds the sales of other characters in Brawl.

his game are all the same apart from the occasional rubbish Mini game collection

If it's not broke, don't fix it. All succesful franchises tend to follow the same general scheme of gameplay.

he had the worst game ever the grace the X-Box 360.

That has absolutely nothing to do with Nintendo and Brawl.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Arguments against him. He doesn't deserve the spot: His entire series sells badly

Last time I checked the Ice climber and Pit series don't sell at all anymore, yet they're in brawl.

his game are all the same apart from the occasional rubbish Mini game collection

So? The pokemon games have always been the same but people still love them.

he had the worst game ever the grace the X-Box 360.

Is Brawl being released on X-box 360? No it isn't. whatever Bomberman games appear on other consoles doesn't affect his chances at all.

 

[Legolastom]

"Bad" (which is subjective, BTW) games are definetely not grounds for un-inclusion in Brawl. Look at most all of MM's recent games.

Also, sales have nothing to do with it either. Look at Wario--he's in, most likely representing the WW franchise, whose sales are dwarfed in comparison to MM's, or anybody already in Brawl.

So your making a comparison between a first part character a third party? And at least MM changes somewhat between games I mean all Bomberman does it: Plant bomb. Move. Play minigame. And thats the entire series.

Character inclusion is not based on game sales.



If it's not broke, don't fix it. All succesful franchises tend to follow the same general scheme of gameplay.



That has absolutely nothing to do with Nintendo and Brawl.

1. Tell that to Pokemon.

2. It isn't broken but it isn't exactly perfected either... I mean look at Mario and look how much his games change and yet they are still some of the best ever.

3. But it has something to do with Bomberman.

Last time I checked the Ice climber and Pit series don't sell at all anymore, yet they're in brawl.



So? The pokemon games have always been the same but people still love them.



Is Brawl being released on X-box 360? No it isn't. whatever Bomberman games appear on other consoles doesn't affect his chances at all.

1. Holy ****. You comparing a 1st party RETRO character top a third party character that is in a state of decline.

2. Actually a lot of people hate them because of their repetitive ness. Pokemon is also a lot better than Bomberman and can last much longer so it can do whatever the **** it wants.

3. Yes they do.

 

[Blade Knight]

Wow you guys are serious about this i mean i want him in as much as you but really no need to flame other people

 

[~N9NE~]

1. Tell that to Pokemon.

2. It isn't broken but it isn't exactly perfected either... I mean look at Mario and look how much his games change and yet they are still some of the best ever.

3. But it has something to do with Bomberman.

1. I should have worded that correctly. Character inclusion is not solely based on game sales. Even if it were, Bomberman's total game sales of 10 million far exceed the sales of other included characters.

2. The core gameplay remains the same.

3. I don't understand how his Xbox 360 titles influence his chances in Brawl. Sonic has had a bucketload of mediocre games.

Wow you guys are serious about this i mean i want him in as much as you but really no need to flame other people

No one's flaming, it's simply a discussion trying to examine anti Bomberman arguments.

 

[Blade Knight]

ok then but still either he'll get in or not i mean sakurai does read these types of threads but our anti arguments aren't gonna change if he's in or not

 

[Tails for brawl]

Depends on who it is.


@RDK:how bout no other 3rd party's is that cool

 

[Legolastom]

1. I should have worded that correctly. Character inclusion is not solely based on game sales. Even if it were, Bomberman's total game sales of 10 million far exceed the sales of other included characters.

2. The core gameplay remains the same.

3. I don't understand how his Xbox 360 titles influence his chances in Brawl. Sonic has had a bucketload of mediocre games.

1. Well I didn't say it did but all factors when deciding a third party character are taken into consideration much more.

2. No ALL the gameplay stays the same.

3. Yet Sonic has had many almost legendary games and shares the biggest console war ever with Nintendo.

ok then but still either he'll get in or not i mean sakurai does read these types of threads but our anti arguments aren't gonna change if he's in or not

Thats a very stupid thing to say my friend.

 

[Grandeza]

can i b in bomb squad plz?

-zsf

 

[RDK]

So your making a comparison between a first part character a third party? And at least MM changes somewhat between games I mean all Bomberman does it: Plant bomb. Move. Play minigame. And thats the entire series.

Yes, I am making that comparison. It's a perfectly legitimate comparison. What, would you rather we not compare any characters whatsoever? Then what is this argument even based on?

And so what if Bomberman is a little repetitive. His games are classics, and have been around even before Megaman, and on Nintendo's first conslole, nonetheless. He deserves a spot among people like Pit and the IC's for being a gaming icon.

Not to mention his games are hella fun with other people.

And as far as recent games go, MM has no room to talk. Do I need to bring up Star Pharce and .EXE?

 

[Blade Knight]

Thats a very stupid thing to say my friend.

why is it stupid i mean we could change wether or not he's in but the chances are astronomical it is speculatable however that sonic is only in because he had a large support base as with king dedede but since sonic was fully capable of being at e for all with no glitches means sakurai had him done for a long time and just waited for the right time to confirm him in in this case to cussion the blow of the pushback

 

[Sabrewulf238]

To be honest I don't really see the point of argueing with Legolastom.....he obviously hates Bomberman.....and anything we say won't change his mind about it either......Bomberman may have been in tons of brialliant games but he's too much of a hater to see them...so why bother argueing?

Besides WE Know that Bomberman has a great chance of getting in brawl and that he deserves to be in brawl....so why care about what one person thinks?

Sorry Legolastom, nothing against you or anything, I just don't see the point in argueing with someone who has they're mind set.

 

[Blade Knight]

good idea sir and thanks again for the vivian pic for my sig!

 

[RDK]

Zero Suit Falcon, you've been added to the Bomb Squad.

 

[Grandeza]

Zero Suit Falcon, you've been added to the Bomb Squad.

thank you very much

-zsf

 

[Legolastom]

Yes, I am making that comparison. It's a perfectly legitimate comparison. What, would you rather we not compare any characters whatsoever? Then what is this argument even based on?

And so what if Bomberman is a little repetitive. His games are classics, and have been around even before Megaman, and on Nintendo's first conslole, nonetheless. He deserves a spot among people like Pit and the IC's for being a gaming icon.

Not to mention his games are hella fun with other people.

And as far as recent games go, MM has no room to talk. Do I need to bring up Star Pharce and .EXE?

No it isn't... I mean there are going to be (Estimate of) 3 third party characters. There were 8 first party characters in the first game and they all came from Nintendo's most popular franchises. (You can compare Bomberman to other third party characters).

Even Snake was around on Nintendo's first console... but I mean why should you pay 30 pounds for basically the same game with maybe different sprites and maybe different levels?

Yhea I know. Used the play DS every single day with my mates at school Bomberman was the third or fourth most played game.

can i b in bomb squad plz?

-zsf

Yes (Also why isn't there a Bomb squad section on P2W?).

 

[RDK]

Yes (Also why isn't there a Bomb squad section on P2W?).

We're really not big / known enough yet to have a BS section. Plus we're a fairly new support thread.

 

[Tails for brawl]

@RDK:how bout no other 3rd clans party's is that cool

 

[RDK]

RDK:how bout no other 3rd clans party's is that cool

Is it Ashley?

 

[Loooooni]

Wow worst username ever goes to you bud and I can think of plenty other cooler third party canadites

 

[Legolastom]

Wow worst username ever goes to you bud and I can think of plenty other cooler third party canadites

Don't worry Luni, hes cool no need to bash him.

 

[Rubydragon]

All of his games the...same?!

What the...

Bomberman 64, Hero, 64 the Second Attack, Tournament, and Generations say hi.

A quiz would be fun, when I was younger, I would always take Bomberman quizzes, and do really well on them. I miss that, actually, let me see if I can find those sites that had the quizzes.

 

[Cubelarooso]

And at least MM changes somewhat between games

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ah ha ha.. heh... Oh... Yeah, that was a good one.

To be honest I don't really see the point of argueing with Legolastom.....he obviously hates Bomberman.....and anything we say won't change his mind about it either......Bomberman may have been in tons of brialliant games but he's too much of a hater to see them...so why bother argueing?

It increases post count.

 

[Tails for brawl]

Is it Ashley?

heck no

not her or any other 3rd parties

@lago: i used to think you we're a jerk but now that i know it was all a joke your
cool i take back all i said to you

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

heck no

not her or any other 3rd parties

What are you talking about?! Ashley's first party.

 

[SonicMario]

Oh TFB, Did you just call Ashley 3rd Party? She's 1st party. She was a character in the WarioWare series debuting in Touched and all games after.(Not to confuse, I do not want Ashley playable in the game. Not important enough)

 

[~N9NE~]

I don't think he was saying Ashley is 3rd party, he was just stating he doesn't support her or any other 3rd parties apart from Bomberman.

To be honest though, anyone should be entitled to support whoever they want, no matter how ridiculous the character may be.

 

[Tails for brawl]

What are you talking about?! Ashley's first party.

i know i meant join her clan i wouldn't join hers or any other 3rd parties besides b-man

yea what ~N9NE~ said

 

[~N9NE~]

How fast do you guys envisage Bomberman being? I'm thinking slightly faster then Mario. I also think he would have really good traction.

 

[Rubydragon]

I think he'd have to be pretty fast, I can imagine him as the character who has high damage but low knockback with his A moves, and his B moves being the opposite. That way, you'd have to try and get your foe to be struck by one of your bombs. It would make a lot of sense.

 

[~N9NE~]

The delay in his bombs would also mean he would have to be rather quick, otherwise he could potentially be quite ineffective. Just faster then Mario sounds right to me.

 

[Legolastom]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ah ha ha.. heh... Oh... Yeah, that was a good one.





It increases post count.

Legend, BN, SF X, Zero, Classic. Most have the same game mechanics but still have a lot of differences.

I said all his series is very repetitive because all his games are basically the same. I said most of his games are **** but be honest with yourselves. If you have played one you have played em all.

 

[Rubydragon]

So you're saying:
-Going from a 2-D game into a 3-D game is the same thing? With even more complex levels and PUZZLES?!
-Then you tell me a platformer is the same as that first 3-D game?
-Then you say having to collect food, and money, and buy things, and use different bombs for puzzles, and having to evolve a little animal is the SAME?!
-Then moving it back into 2-D, you're telling me not having the classic square-type levels, getting little pets who each have their own specific effect on you, and playing a little Pokemon-like mini game is the exact same thing as the games before it?
-Moving it back into 3-D, it's still the SAME?!

If that's your logic, then all the Zeldas are the same because the only different things are the new items and puzzles you have to do. It's a very odd opinion. Bomberman is laying bombs like Zelda is solving puzzles and Mario is jumping on things.

 

[Legolastom]

So you're saying:
-Going from a 2-D game into a 3-D game is the same thing? With even more complex levels and PUZZLES?!
-Then you tell me a platformer is the same as that first 3-D game?
-Then you say having to collect food, and money, and buy things, and use different bombs for puzzles, and having to evolve a little animal is the SAME?!
-Then moving it back into 2-D, you're telling me not having the classic square-type levels, getting little pets who each have their own specific effect on you, and playing a little Pokemon-like mini game is the exact same thing as the games before it?
-Moving it back into 3-D, it's still the SAME?!

If that's your logic, then all the Zeldas are the same because the only different things are the new items and puzzles you have to do. It's a very odd opinion. Bomberman is laying bombs like Zelda is solving puzzles and Mario is jumping on things.

What? What the **** are you talking about? But if what your saying is what I think it is then how many of those points were one game?

 

[Rubydragon]

Each of them were from their own game, I was listing Bomberman 64, Bomberman Hero, Bomberman 64 the Second Attack, Bomberman Tournament, and Bomberman Generations/Jetters, respectively.

I didn't even add other games like Bomberman Land in there. Oh well.

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

I said all his series is very repetitive because all his games are basically the same. I said most of his games are **** but be honest with yourselves. If you have played one you have played em all.

The same can easily be said of Mega Man games. Only Legends and BN/SF take a significantly different approach to the core formula, while the Original, X, Zero, and ZX series, aside from a few gimmicks and tweaks, have considerably similar mechanics - which is exactly what the fans want. In fact, often times the further it deviates from the core formula, the more negative the reception. That is why the BN/SF is so reviled by many long time fans and possibly why Legends, despite being an excellent series in its own right, never quite caught on. For the same reason, it is also likely the reason why ZX, the most experimental and "gimmicky" of the more mainline formula has had such mixed impressions.

And as far as the most of Bomberman's games being **** comment, again the very same case can be made about Mega Man. I don't think I need to mention Battle Netwark or Star Pharce, but again ZX has been rather lackluster, the X series pretty much went belly up after X3, and even the original series had its stints, namely 5,6, and 8. Only the Legends and Zero series seemed to hold a general level of quality and consistency, but both series were short lived anyway.

Might I suggest that you stick to the Ridley and Mega Man threads? As far as I know, none of us go into those threads to bash those characters' chances or merit (I in fact support both). I'd request you show us a similar degree of courtesy...

 

[Legolastom]

Ok whatever I have had enough of these ****ing boards anyway.

 

[joeysmash]

BOMBERMAN FTW

enough said