The North Carolina Melee Power Rankings! Updated 8/14/14!

[GaGa]

been workin on that falcon matchup taheem? i heard you were considering jiggs or some ****

Yeah. I finally put some personality into my jiggs, officially my secondary.
Though its still kinda trash.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

jiggs? i don't...

why didn't you just keep the sheik floating around?

 

[Dorsey]

true that cam, I didn't even know that you were on the panel. yeah i have no questions or doubts specifically with the list, nor would i care.

merely discussing the concept of place not mattering(after kevin seeded me+adam as the first team to face him, if he were to have come up to me and say see jesse placing doesn't matter after we got 5th, i wouldn't be entirely convinced by his logic despite it being the truth.... to say the least).

 

[Dr Peepee]

I did not seed teams

 

[enCouRaging Bear]

edit> ok, so $mike just sent me a pm regarding the pr. guys, i don't want to get messages like these. mike either you were kidding or you have pressing psychological issues, but either way i simply don't appreciate the kind of stuff i read from your pm. i'm sorry to call you out publicly, but it's really just for everyone's sake, i don't want people to pm about the pr if peter's gonna put a pepper in penny's petunia

what did he say?

edit: or are you joking

 

[BEHR]

post the pm!!!

 

[$mike]

what did he say?

edit: or are you joking

No this is completely serious

 

[Dorsey]

I did not seed teams

what i thought even though stingers said you did, but then someone else said they watched you do it also. maybe if i gave a **** i would have found out who was fibbing haha.....but, i don't.

 

[big sleep]

do you guys know what a pm is

private message

private


hold dat

 

[Voltz]

Sooo, Dr Peepee is pretty much the best in the world, now.

 

[Todd Bonney]

edit: naaah, not going to be that snarky right now.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

jesse, placing doesn't matter in the sense that getting 1st at a scrub tourney doesn't do you any good. alternatively, beating a bunch of scrubs on the way to a 7th place finish won't get you on the PR as fast as beating someone recognized on the way to tie for 9th. how you got 7th by beating a bunch of scrubs comes down to seeding, and there was probably an upset along the way. if you didn't cause that upset, you basically don't get that much credit for just placing above the guy that did.

even though boney got 3rd at rese, he beat a bunch of (fairly skilled) south carolina players. we don't have any real way in this state of ranking or comparing yoshido/le fou. are we supposed to say "well, he got 3rd out of 18, that's good!" or should we look at who he beat to get it? for the purpose of the PR, who people beat is the only thing that matters *shrug*

 

[enCouRaging Bear]

i vote that john mms karn for the spot if it was such a tossup...
have people done that kind of thing before?

 

[Bl@ckChris]

I know/think that if a mm happens, especially if its for at least a tournament entry fee, that the panel looks at it like a tournament set (emphasis on "I think")

There's never been a straight up playoff for it though lol.

 

[Dr Peepee]

There used to be ranking matches but people didn't like it for one reason or another. I wouldn't mind bringing it back if people wanted to do it.

The panel counts MMs $5 and up for PRs. They could just $5 MM or do a ranking match(or both!) if they both agree on it.

 

[GaGa]

There used to be ranking matches but people didn't like it for one reason or another. I wouldn't mind bringing it back if people wanted to do it.

The panel counts MMs $5 and up for PRs. They could just $5 MM or do a ranking match(or both!) if they both agree on it.

Down for this. Hardly a unanimous decision though.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

People probably didn't like it because all the risk is put on the currently pr'd player. If I get challenged by say, taheem, to a ranking match, he gets my spot or whatever if he wins and I get...a win against taheem if I win. There's no kind of balanced risk/reward in that scenario.

 

[Dr Peepee]

I think money was involved too.

 

[big sleep]

Taheem wouldn't necessarily take your spot. that win would just be relevant to the next panel discussion. and you'd have to hold dat.


needless to say, you're a PR'd player, that position should come with these kinds of pressures. you have more to lose, but you're not supposed to if you're legit.

 

[Dr Peepee]

nice post cam

 

[big sleep]

lol..

f u

 

[Todd Bonney]

Don't forget to pre-reg for ReSe and go to ReSe.

 

[GaGa]

Taheem wouldn't necessarily take your spot. that win would just be relevant to the next panel discussion. and you'd have to hold dat.


needless to say, you're a PR'd player, that position should come with these kinds of pressures. you have more to lose, but you're not supposed to if you're legit.

<3

 

[enCouRaging Bear]

Taheem wouldn't necessarily take your spot. that win would just be relevant to the next panel discussion. and you'd have to hold dat.


needless to say, you're a PR'd player, that position should come with these kinds of pressures. you have more to lose, but you're not supposed to if you're legit.

can't there be a title match (or ranking match as pp put it) where the result absolutely determines the pr placing? i already know that the panel takes into account mms which is what you're talking about but i mean more directly
what i want to see is a full blown wwe style callout where john challenges karn and karn puts his title on the line and they duke it out for that number 10 spot
twould be most hype
but alas doesn't sound like anyone else is as interested
for future reference though i would assume the panel has to sanction these ranking matches for people that they deem to be extremely close in skill(true tossups)? otherwise any scrub could challenge any member of the pr and take their place if they happen to win unexpectedly which would ruin the point of the prs

 

[GaGa]

I think it would foster more competitiveness in the NC Scene.
Or at least salt. And where there is salt, there is improvement.


Although there would have to be some sort of guidelines...nobody want to defend their spot 19 times per tournament...

 

[big sleep]

i could see title matches being acceptable in the case of this period's 10th spot.

in fact, this is an interesting opportunity in NC where the bottom 5 of the PR are usually fluctuating a lot. there are often some close calls, so in panel deliberation we should take note of these "true tossups" and offer any players in question an opportunity to battle for their spot.

 

[BEHR]

we should just have the kumite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CLz2Hh9uqM


Also for future reference if I host a tourney im using the name Kumite.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

Well I don't have much of an attachment to my spot. Hell I don't even play the character that cot me there anymore.

So. Come at me. I guess.

 

[v4extreme]

can't there be a title match (or ranking match as pp put it) where the result absolutely determines the pr placing? i already know that the panel takes into account mms which is what you're talking about but i mean more directly
what i want to see is a full blown wwe style callout where john challenges karn and karn puts his title on the line and they duke it out for that number 10 spot
twould be most hype
but alas doesn't sound like anyone else is as interested
for future reference though i would assume the panel has to sanction these ranking matches for people that they deem to be extremely close in skill(true tossups)? otherwise any scrub could challenge any member of the pr and take their place if they happen to win unexpectedly which would ruin the point of the prs

I brought this up awhile ago, I love ranking ladders. Plus it would allow us to accurately rank more than just 10 people and give everyone short term goals for who to beat and such.

 

[Sneak8288]

Needs to be an actual ranking tournament/kumite like behr was mentioning. No teams, just a whole day with a huge round robin where everyone plays each other.

 

[big sleep]

oh shut up

NC is so lame

you're all just mouths


shut them

 

[Dark Hart]

:D



:dwam:

 

[big sleep]

i mean, i'm down for all of this ranking battle kumite stuff, but it's not going to happen because no one actually cares. it's just too easy to post s*** while on your bored a**es.


this is the cycle of NC PRs (a.k.a. 5 simple steps to disappointment me)
1. update
2. complaints (questioning of panel's judgement or legitimacy of the data)
3. suggestions and following discussion (why don't we just do ____, right guys !?)
4. absolutely no follow-through whatsoever (n****z re-open their porn tabs and go back their scrubby lives)
5. rinse, repeat x months later


so just shutup and get off this site

 

[GaGa]

I care. Lehgo.
What needs to be done?

 

[Todd Bonney]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

 

[v4extreme]

i mean, i'm down for all of this ranking battle kumite stuff, but it's not going to happen because no one actually cares. it's just too easy to post s*** while on your bored a**es.


this is the cycle of NC PRs (a.k.a. 5 simple steps to disappointment me)
1. update
2. complaints (questioning of panel's judgement or legitimacy of the data)
3. suggestions and following discussion (why don't we just do ____, right guys !?)
4. absolutely no follow-through whatsoever (n****z re-open their porn tabs and go back their scrubby lives)
5. rinse, repeat x months later


so just shutup and get off this site

That sort of negativity is the sort of thing that makes it hard for things to actually change >_> not to mention making this thread a pain in the ass to read.

I care. Lehgo.
What needs to be done?

If the pr panel is seriously against this we might just want to start it ourselves by making another thread. To start it out we could use the current pr's or if everyone gets together at some tournament where there's time do a giant pool for the initial ranking. These typically start by ranking everyone who's interested in REVERSE order (i.e. if Kevin wanted in, he would start at the bottom spot). That way it gets a lot of matches going right off and people have to prove themselves before eventually settling in an accurate and less volatile list. I'm not sure if we would want to do that or just start out by ranking everyone who's interested in the order we think to be most accurate.
From there it goes how you think it would and matches happen at tournies (or wherever) adhering to a certain ruleset, if player 12 beats player 10 player 12 becomes player 10, the old 10 becomes 11 and everyone below shifts down as such. There should also be some factor of cutting people based on inactivity. For example, if a player is challenged but never comes out to tournaments and is basically unplayable for that reason, they might have to be dropped from the ladder (we would need to come up with a specific definition of an "active player" to enforce; maybe a certain amount of time cannot pass without them attending a tournament).
Anyway that's how the ladders I've participated in/observed have gone. If enough people are interested I think we should make a new thread, discuss rules, and try it out.

 

[Dorsey]

**** YOUR MOTHER ****ING INCHES

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I'll MM all of you scrubs~

 

[Dorsey]

whoever wins is the best player in mexico.

btw, not sure how many games y'all play and stuff(I don't play too many).. but I snagged a razer deathadder 2013 the other day. Double the specs, larger/bigger sensor, better/more ergonomic shape, etc...

Feels like sex.. been railing more than 60% a lot of games in q2.

 

[BEHR]

I think the real question guys is.


How many inches do you want?