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The New Phantom Thief of Persona 5 The Royal - Kasumi Yoshizawa/"Jane"

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I feel like she will still find a way to be impactful till she gets her Persona, as she still shows up for the Casino. She might be pulling a Haru and going in with little Persona power.
Probably explains those gameplay clips where her total HP looked weird (one clip only had the max somewhat higher than Ann or Haru while another had it around Joker's level if not higher)
 

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Gameplay and story info feels like the most likely things they will cover.
Yeah, agreed. Maybe notes on how many new songs we'll be getting for the new franchises too.

Oh please, he knows those joy's already. I think this TV Tropes entry sums it up better than I can.

Magnificent *******: A good part of the plot in the original game is made by Murakumo and Mycale's struggle to become this and overpower each other: Murakumo has his massive fighting skills, his gift to manipulate other people and his capacity to clone himself and place said clones in very important positions in either The Triads and the Tongs or the Japanese Army to his favor, whereas Mycale is a powerful witch implied to be able to pull Body Surfing and Grand Theft Mes who's just as manipulative as Murakumo and can potentially have the Blitztank armyby her side. Whether one of them comes up on top or not... it seriously depends on whether the player chooses their paths or not - if they do, Murakumo will be seen giving a powerful and very creepy speech as "becomes a living God" and takes over the Earth, or Mycale will be Dressed to Kill as she does the same and sends out the Blitztanks to do her dirty work.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/AkatsukiBlitzkampf
Wow. Okay. Yes. Good summary. I did assume he knew them already, but he seems like enough of a god-complex-haver to try a bad idea again!

Perhaps his general into, outro, etc. will have him remain silent, but his interactions will be the occasions when he, for for whatever reason, has something to say about it's partner.
Yeah, that would make sense. For maximum creepiness, say nothing until winning a match with Perfecti or Murakumo as a partner, at once he darkly squeeks out "Do not think this means I forgive you. I will never forgive."

It's actually less than you would think. I think the only characters who would require an accent that are eligible for BBTAG are Adler, possibly Perfecti, maybe Kati, and En-Eins depending on a certain factor of his backstory. You just know Adler is going to go all in with the German accent, that much is a guarantee. I am not too sure about the others, as there is a number of factors that could result in it not making sense for them to sound German.
That is very fair! I feel like Perfecti probably would sound German? She looks and feels authoritative enough for it to make sense to me... Alder definitely will just sound like the villains of the first Indiana Jones movie, condescension and all....

Speaking of Kati and En-Eins, I have some good news and bad news. I found more info on those two! Turns out I should've looked at the stinking wiki page some more(Can't believe it was that simple). The bad news is that I may have made some misconceptions and missed some things, especially in regard to Perfecti's origin, Murakoumo's real name(Seriously, that should have rang warning bells in my brain when I first skimmed over it) and Anonym's fate. It's Wikipedia, so I guess it could also be wrong, but all that is being said makes sense. I am going to put how the page describes all the characters, just so we can all be on the same page.

Also, since I have the feeling you would recognize any significance, does Sae's real name hold any meaning that you recognize?

  • Akatsuki: High class technical officer of the Imperial army. Believed to have died in the Arctic oceans at a critical time when the war was coming to its end, during the transportation of a new military unit from an allied country. Fifty years later, he returns alive and unchanged in appearance. Now wielding superhuman abilities, he resumes his mission. He made a guest appearance in French Bread's Under Night In-Birth Exe: Late, and will appear in BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle patch 2.0 in November 2019. Voiced by Shinobu Matsumoto (credited Souji Hijikata in his home series) in Japanese, while receiving an English voice in only Cross Tag Battle.
  • Mycale: A witch that belongs to a secret society called "Gesellschaft" (German for "society"); they have been manipulating history from behind the scenes since the Middle Ages. She plans to recover the missing weapon. Later remained as Perfecti as of Ausf. Achseupdate onwards, as well as being replaced by her spiritual replacement and former host Kati in the sequel game En-Eins Perfektewelt. Voiced by Karumagu.
  • Kanae: An intelligence operative, attached to the second office of the Ground Staff Overseeing Department. With the news of Akatsuki's revival, she is ordered to recover a secret "Blitz Engine", lost at the end of the war. Voiced by 754.
  • Sai (real name: Colonel Claude D'Aspremont): Agent for the Xinhua computer company. He, through clandestine means, gathers information throughout the world. Rumors say that behind his sunglasses lurks an evil eye that can kill a man instantly. Voiced by Shion Hibiki.
  • Fritz: A military surgeon who practiced in the Imperial army during the war. Albeit becoming unaccounted for afterwards, he sets off on eliminating all those who have appeared concurrently with Akatsuki's revival. Voiced by Shion Hibiki.
  • Marilyn Sue Dae Jie: An assassin for the continent's largest international mafia "Black Hand" and a master of assassination techniques with basis in, presumably, "Breaking Fist". By plundering the Blitz Engine from Akatsuki, she aims to rise in influence and power. Voiced by Karumagu.
  • Da Wei: A master of Xingyiquan, who, as a cold-blooded assassin, rose up to the ranks of Black Hand's leaders. After his patron was assassinated, Wei searches for the criminal. Voiced by Shinobu Matsumoto (credited Souji Hijikata in his home series).
  • Anonym: An Armed Inquisitor of Heresy, within a religious society - The Sacred Club. She is sent to destroy the headquarters of an organization charged with the heresy of aiding Gesellschaft, the Perfecti Kyōdan. Anonym is a master of the Ranbas-style gun technique, a combination of Chinese self-defense and pistols. There are few Anonym Guards as her replacement in the sequel game En-Eins. Voiced by Strange Heke.
  • Elektrosoldat: Private army of "Gesellschaft", cloned from Adler. Although equipped with the same Blitz Engine as Akatsuki, the connection between them lies shrouded in mystery. However, one soldier begin to oppose Gesellschaft, while at the same time of ended up dying by an unknown disease. Voiced by Kyosuke Amasaki in the first game, later replaced by Yohei Takino after the first game.
  • Blitztank (Denkosensha in Japan): An electrical tank, assumed to have a Blitz Engine as its source of power. According to a copy of the document on new engine research labeled "Gesellschaft", a test piece was developed. However, it was revoked along with the plan itself before the full-scale production could take place. Based on its arcade ending, there are mysterious rumors behind the creation of Blitztanks that the tanks were once humans before being cyberized into living tanks as they are now, by the time when playable Blitztank begin to remember something upon encountering Akatsuki, and progressively attempt to rebel Gesellschaft. It appears alongside Akatsuki in BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle.
  • Adler: Formerly, as an officer within the organization "Ahnenerbe", he did research on German ancestry, organization. He participated in excavation of Tibet's ancient heritage, but upon the discovery of the ancient city of Agartha, he uses the science for his own ambitions. He is the originator of Elektrosoldat clone army. Voiced by Kyosuke Amasaki in the first game, later replaced by Nagase Reiji after the first game.
  • Murakumo (real name: Akatsuki Zero): The final boss of the first game. At the time of the previous war, he was a military officer stationed in Germany who planned actions for an inspection group on military affairs. In this position, he got in touch with a religious society called Perfecti Kyōdan, and established the Military Technique Research facility, nicknamed "Gesellschaft". Towards the end of the war news from Berlin is interrupted. He was the original Akatsuki before the main protagonist himself. Voiced by Shinobu Matsumoto (credited Souji Hijikata in his home series).
  • Perfecti (Kanzensha in Japan): The current sub-boss of the series. The current form of the witch Mycale after leaving Kati's body, and presumably possessing one of the original Anonym as her presumable current host. She was originally a mere palette swap of Mycale in Akatsuki Blitzkampf prior being re-introduce in Ausf. Achse update as her own character and the second round’s sub-boss of the said update after defeating Mycale. Voiced by Kyoko Utsumi.
  • En-Eins: The sole survivor of Gesellschaft's cloning batch, En-Eins aims to stop the evil military organization to avenge his clone "siblings". Voiced by Ai Nishimura.
  • Kati: Former host of Mycale after the latter becoming a separate entity known as Perfecti. As Kati now freed from Mycale, she replaces Mycale’s spot as a playable character. Voiced by Kaori Ota.
  • Anonym Guard: The original Anonym's replacement, after the original's disappearance, and presumably possessed by Mycale and becoming Perfecti. One of the guards begin to search for her whereabout. Voiced by Strange Heke.
  • Tempelritter: Are the female clones of Valkyria, serving as "Gesellschaft"'s foot soldiers like Elektrosoldat.
  • Valkyria: The non-playable final boss of the second game. She, like Adler, also have let themselves being cloned to mass produce Tempelritter and Elektrosoldat army. She briefly appeared as part of Perfecti’s Reflector moves, until properly made her debut in sequel En-Eins. Due to her status a power-up version of Tempelritter, such as can use EX/Super gauge moves infinitely, even after “Perfekwelt” being used, it is highly recommended for the players to prepare a Reflector against her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_Blitzkampf
Wow. That is a lot of additional body-switching. RIP Anonym. Sorry Akatsuki, but hopefully you are fine with your current body...

As for Sai's real name, I think it's just a generic French name as a nod to how France fell early to the Nazis and many people in France turned into willing collaborators. Thanks for your confidence in me though haha.

At least the En-Eins characters are starting to make more sense to me. Well, except for one thing in regard to En-Eins himself.
En-Eins trying to avenge his brothers by stopping the people that gave him life is... kind of confusing, but sure! What was/is your confusion about?

I am just going to say, I decided to take a look at the top 8 they had AB at last years AnimEVO(Video below) and one of the first things that is said in the video is how Kanae is one of the strongest grapplers of all time.
Wow. That. Wow. I also didn't know AniEVO was a thing, but it has a great pun name.

Shantae hasn't appeared in a fighting game yet, so perhaps BBTAG could be her debut? As for Neptunia, While I am not sure what has been said, I just know having personified video game consoles get in on this crossover would be surreal.
That is true. It would be one heck of a debut as well. It isn't just personified consoles; it is companies too. So we could see the Senran Kagura people literally meet their maker by fighting MarvelousAQL, an actual character in the franchise. I do wonder how they would handle the switch in and out of their goddess forms though, as I feel like the regular designs are more iconic, but it'd be odd if nobody used their stronger forms...

It's fine, I thought that was what you meant from how we have discussed RWBY, it just wasn't worded like it. I like DDLC as well, but it would not fit. Doesn't help that there is little roster potential.
Yeah, I blame sleep-deprivation for that one. Sorry. I don't think DDLC wouldn't fit - I mean, this game already has both horror and waifus - but I don't know if it'd be worth making the new animations and sprites for a fanbase that is kind of dying... Plus, Monika has an obvious moveset and everyone else... Uh... Yuri has a knife collection I guess... Natsuki can... throw cupcakes? And Sayori can... uh... er... Well, she can try, but that's about it.

They would be cool if the worlds were crossing over more directly though. Imagine if they awakened to personas...

On the not so bright side, Anonym's technically in the game still if Wikipedia is to be believed. Just not in the way most of would find pleasant.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Sure. Technically true, but not exactly good in that regard.

I heard about Melty Blood a long time ago(And that was back in the days of me knowing little of fighting games), so I think it was rather popular back in the day. Makes you wonder why BBTAG had Akatsuki Blitzkampf in first, or why Under Night chose Aktsuki as a guest in the first place(Since Eltnum seemed to idolize Akatsuki, I can only assume French Bread had similar feelings towards the franchise).
I also heard about Melty Blood way before the other franchises. I am guessing that they just really liked Akatsuki and the licensing was easy because it's more niche? It is cool to see for sure.

The new palace definitely gives me some Olympics vibes. Especially that banner that is in front of the giant... crystal ball... thing... It would also obviously give Kasumi reason to join if it is corruption going on in her hood.
 

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Probably explains those gameplay clips where her total HP looked weird (one clip only had the max somewhat higher than Ann or Haru while another had it around Joker's level if not higher)
Guess it would be to balance out her lack of power.

Wow. Okay. Yes. Good summary. I did assume he knew them already, but he seems like enough of a god-complex-haver to try a bad idea again!
Seems about right.
Yeah, that would make sense. For maximum creepiness, say nothing until winning a match with Perfecti or Murakumo as a partner, at once he darkly squeeks out "Do not think this means I forgive you. I will never forgive."
Oh, certainly. It almost makes me wonder how they would try and do a more humor based interaction with him. Maybe he could confuse Neo silence with how he was previously, considering she is also a minion.
That is very fair! I feel like Perfecti probably would sound German? She looks and feels authoritative enough for it to make sense to me... Alder definitely will just sound like the villains of the first Indiana Jones movie, condescension and all....
The thing about Perfecti is that it depends on if the witch herself is German, if that accent is a trait she brings to all her bodies, or if she just inherents the victims accent, in which I don't think Anonym is German. Adler is the only guarantee, for obvious reason.
Wow. That is a lot of additional body-switching. RIP Anonym. Sorry Akatsuki, but hopefully you are fine with your current body...
Interesting how Murokuma saw him as expendable enough to try and sink him into the Artic. Akatsuki also seems to be quite important, as Kanae, Fritz, and Murakumo himself refers to him as "Experiment 1". I have no clue what that means for his existence and why he is the first, but the fact that Murokuma is "Akatsuki Zero" seems to indicate something. Maybe it has something to do with his blitz engine, as everyone and their mother is after him when he comes back despite us knowing that there are plenty of other blitz engines out there(Murokuma, Adler, Blitztank, and all of the Elektrosoldats).

And yeah, there was a ton more cases of clones and body swapping shenanigans then expected. So much so that all of Es-Eins characters relate to such subjects is some way. Did not expect Tempelritter and Valkyria to be the female equivalents to Elektrosoldat and Adler though. Just wish I knew more about Valkyrias origin.
As for Sai's real name, I think it's just a generic French name as a nod to how France fell early to the Nazis and many people in France turned into willing collaborators. Thanks for your confidence in me though haha.
Well, at least we know he's French now. And the fact that he and Murokuma were once rivals durring the war gives more context to that name.
En-Eins trying to avenge his brothers by stopping the people that gave him life is... kind of confusing, but sure! What was/is your confusion about?
What I was wondering was his origin. Down to process of elimination(He isn't female and he looks too different from an Elektrosoldat), he must be a clone of Murokuma. So that much is sure, but what destroyed the cloning batch? I am sure it's explained somewhere, I just haven't seen it yet.

That is true. It would be one heck of a debut as well. It isn't just personified consoles; it is companies too. So we could see the Senran Kagura people literally meet their maker by fighting MarvelousAQL, an actual character in the franchise. I do wonder how they would handle the switch in and out of their goddess forms though, as I feel like the regular designs are more iconic, but it'd be odd if nobody used their stronger forms...
Well, that would be meta. As for the super forms, maybe they could use them in their finishers? I don't know much about the series, so I don't know what would fit best. If they can't fight in their basic form, then I imagine they would just go for the goddess forms.
Yeah, I blame sleep-deprivation for that one. Sorry. I don't think DDLC wouldn't fit - I mean, this game already has both horror and waifus - but I don't know if it'd be worth making the new animations and sprites for a fanbase that is kind of dying... Plus, Monika has an obvious moveset and everyone else... Uh... Yuri has a knife collection I guess... Natsuki can... throw cupcakes? And Sayori can... uh... er... Well, she can try, but that's about it.

They would be cool if the worlds were crossing over more directly though. Imagine if they awakened to personas...
Yeah, it doesn't really mesh well. A Persona scenario would be quite fun though.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Sure. Technically true, but not exactly good in that regard.
Wikipedia has caused me to realize three important things in regards to AB representation. One, Kati does make sense to be in with Mycale giving her up to become Perfecti. Two, Anonym is gone because she is too busy being the body of Perfecti. And three, Anonym's replacement doesnt get in because apparently ArkSys doesn't allow in mook versions of other characters. Seriously, Elektrosoldat, Tempelritter, and the Anonym Guard are all unaccounted for.
I also heard about Melty Blood way before the other franchises. I am guessing that they just really liked Akatsuki and the licensing was easy because it's more niche? It is cool to see for sure.
Maybe they liked Akatsuki Blitzkampf to push ArcSys towards bringing it in for BBTAG? A sort of "You need this more than we do" towards the AB series.

The new palace definitely gives me some Olympics vibes. Especially that banner that is in front of the giant... crystal ball... thing... It would also obviously give Kasumi reason to join if it is corruption going on in her hood.
And during the events of Persona 5, the fact that the Summer Olympics will be coming to Tokyo in 2020 might cause a bit of a change in that area.
 

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Tomorrow’s the “big day” right? I still wonder what that important announcement is

At the very least I expect Kasumi’s codename to be revealed if anything
 

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Tomorrow’s the “big day” right? I still wonder what that important announcement is

At the very least I expect Kasumi’s codename to be revealed if anything
it's a western exhibition so i'm expecting the western release date
 

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Oh, certainly. It almost makes me wonder how they would try and do a more humor based interaction with him. Maybe he could confuse Neo silence with how he was previously, considering she is also a minion.
Oooo, yeah, that could be funny. He'll also probably have some stuff to say to the other robots, as he will see companionship in them. Actually, I could see him having some interest in Vatista especially, as she also is a mand-made weapon that was infused with a human soul... She has had more time to get used to it though...

The thing about Perfecti is that it depends on if the witch herself is German, if that accent is a trait she brings to all her bodies, or if she just inherents the victims accent, in which I don't think Anonym is German. Adler is the only guarantee, for obvious reason.
Ahhhhh, that is a good point. I like the idea of the accent somehow switching bodies though...

Interesting how Murokuma saw him as expendable enough to try and sink him into the Artic. Akatsuki also seems to be quite important, as Kanae, Fritz, and Murakumo himself refers to him as "Experiment 1". I have no clue what that means for his existence and why he is the first, but the fact that Murokuma is "Akatsuki Zero" seems to indicate something. Maybe it has something to do with his blitz engine, as everyone and their mother is after him when he comes back despite us knowing that there are plenty of other blitz engines out there(Murokuma, Adler, Blitztank, and all of the Elektrosoldats).
Yeah... I'm very confused about how the blitz engines are both rare and insanely common... Akatsuki could have a rare special one related to Murakumo and him having had some sort of body-switching events? Or maybe Akatsuki has a custom-made

And yeah, there was a ton more cases of clones and body swapping shenanigans then expected. So much so that all of Es-Eins characters relate to such subjects is some way. Did not expect Tempelritter and Valkyria to be the female equivalents to Elektrosoldat and Adler though. Just wish I knew more about Valkyrias origin.
Yeah, definitely... I didn't see that coming, but I suppose it makes sense? Valkyria just turning up in the third game without context would be weird though. Was she maybe a NPC in earlier games?

Well, at least we know he's French now. And the fact that he and Murokuma were once rivals durring the war gives more context to that name.
Ahhhhhh, yeah. That's some good flavour text; definitely a reference to people switching sides then.

What I was wondering was his origin. Down to process of elimination(He isn't female and he looks too different from an Elektrosoldat), he must be a clone of Murokuma. So that much is sure, but what destroyed the cloning batch? I am sure it's explained somewhere, I just haven't seen it yet.
Ahhhhh, that's a good question. I was wondering if he was an Elektrosoldat that just decided to go through a heavy makeover to make it so there aren't three characters in the roster who look similar to stand out from the crowd as a rebel.

Well, that would be meta. As for the super forms, maybe they could use them in their finishers? I don't know much about the series, so I don't know what would fit best. If they can't fight in their basic form, then I imagine they would just go for the goddess forms.
Meta is kind of Neptunia's thing. It does take place in the troubled lands of Gamesindustri, after all. They can fight in both for sure. Its just that they usually need a story reason to not just always have their goddess forms. Basically, the console companies have their human-ish company forms (ex/ Neptune as SEGA), but then can turn into their more badass goddess forms which look metallic and are more directly based on the consoles (as also indicated by how, to my knowledge, no regular company character has one).

If I had to guess, they would probably go with the following characters (at least as the people they get voice clips for): Neptune (SEGA), Noire (PlayStation), Blanc (Nintendo), Vert (Xbox), Compa (Compile Heart, Neptunia's producer company), IF (Idea Factory, Neptunia's publisher), Arfoire (based on the R4 cartridge, representing the concept of games piracy and the main atagonist of most of the games), and Falcom (Nihon Falcom, as she is stupidly popular in spite of being a DLC character in her debut). They could also add the sibling characters - Uni (PSP), Rom and Ram (the DS), and Nepgear (nonexistent SEGA handheld) - if so desired. I'd personally like to see Rei Ryghts (Atari) get in as well... They'd probably just start wih the 4 consoles then go from there, obviously.

Yeah, it doesn't really mesh well. A Persona scenario would be quite fun though.
Yeah, for sure. Movesets are a bit too hard for characters known for having angst.

Wikipedia has caused me to realize three important things in regards to AB representation. One, Kati does make sense to be in with Mycale giving her up to become Perfecti. Two, Anonym is gone because she is too busy being the body of Perfecti. And three, Anonym's replacement doesnt get in because apparently ArkSys doesn't allow in mook versions of other characters. Seriously, Elektrosoldat, Tempelritter, and the Anonym Guard are all unaccounted for.
Yeah, I guess they didn't want to have to deal with timeline issues of having one person be in two places at once. Too bad about all of the clones though, it would have been neat to see them.

Maybe they liked Akatsuki Blitzkampf to push ArcSys towards bringing it in for BBTAG? A sort of "You need this more than we do" towards the AB series.
Yeah, maybe? Or maybe ArcSys was just looking for something a little more off-the-wall, given how they did pick the tank as one of the first characters to put in. Their movesets may also be easier to adapt for 2v2 as well.

Also, I'm finally watching RWBY Chibi. Thus far the Red Riding Hood sketch is my favourite. It is good.


And during the events of Persona 5, the fact that the Summer Olympics will be coming to Tokyo in 2020 might cause a bit of a change in that area.
Yeah, definitely. I may be kind of biased, as I was hoping that P5S would be Olympics-themed spin-off...
 

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Oooo, yeah, that could be funny. He'll also probably have some stuff to say to the other robots, as he will see companionship in them. Actually, I could see him having some interest in Vatista especially, as she also is a mand-made weapon that was infused with a human soul... She has had more time to get used to it though...
Vatista sounds like a great interaction opportunity for Blitztank. Nice for the two to met someone who they can relate to. Also, I imagine Ruby will have quite a bit to say about fighting alongside I tank, especially since her weapon loving side is much more prominent in BBTAG.
Ahhhhh, that is a good point. I like the idea of the accent somehow switching bodies though...
I don't know the full science of accents, but I imagine it could transfer bodies. An accent isn't genetic of course, it's just the manner of speaking you you learn from those around you.


Yeah... I'm very confused about how the blitz engines are both rare and insanely common... Akatsuki could have a rare special one related to Murakumo and him having had some sort of body-switching events? Or maybe Akatsuki has a custom-made
Akatsuki's has to be special in some way, otherwise this chase would make no sense. It allowed him to live frozen in the Arctic for 50 years, so that must say something. Maybe since he is "Experiment 1", his blitz engine was one of the first and has some benefit because of it?
Yeah, definitely... I didn't see that coming, but I suppose it makes sense? Valkyria just turning up in the third game without context would be weird though. Was she maybe a NPC in earlier games?
She seems to make a cameo in one of Mycale's moves as a sort of ghostly summon(Go to 1:43 of the first video below for a clear shot of it), but I have no clue what that means for her involvement. It may be just a generic Valkyrie, as Myvcale also summons Fenrir, Mjolnir, Gungnir and Jörmungandr(I think it's safe to say that Mycale may have Norse origins), but the Valkyrie she summons, while a tad bit different to the final design of Valkyria(Different boot color, different sword and Valkyria is lacking a shield), still looks exceedingly similar and is wearing a military uniform. I will also include of her boss fight, just so you can have a comparison.



Ahhhhhh, yeah. That's some good flavour text; definitely a reference to people switching sides then.
I doubt they are anything close to friends now(Sai is working as a secret agent for MI6), but they do indeed have a history with each other.
Ahhhhh, that's a good question. I was wondering if he was an Elektrosoldat that just decided to go through a heavy makeover to make it so there aren't three characters in the roster who look similar to stand out from the crowd as a rebel.
I decided to take a look into his story in Es-Eins to try and figure out who he is related to through possible interactions and his playstyle, but he only interacts with Perfecti and Valkyria and I am super confused by his teleport happy fighting style. Also, everyone besides is a different color palette and it's freaking me the heck out. I know this game is supposed to be lighter, but this is way too colorful. I know this is a weird thing to say in the modern day of gaming, but I would rather have this world be brown than colorful. The most I could gather from his origin is that his batch may have been destroyed when Akatsuki came and wrecked Murokuma in his story mode.


Thankfully, it doesn't seem the characters will inherit their base colors from this game, as Blitztank seems more in line with his original colors. Thank goodness.

Meta is kind of Neptunia's thing. It does take place in the troubled lands of Gamesindustri, after all. They can fight in both for sure. Its just that they usually need a story reason to not just always have their goddess forms. Basically, the console companies have their human-ish company forms (ex/ Neptune as SEGA), but then can turn into their more badass goddess forms which look metallic and are more directly based on the consoles (as also indicated by how, to my knowledge, no regular company character has one).

If I had to guess, they would probably go with the following characters (at least as the people they get voice clips for): Neptune (SEGA), Noire (PlayStation), Blanc (Nintendo), Vert (Xbox), Compa (Compile Heart, Neptunia's producer company), IF (Idea Factory, Neptunia's publisher), Arfoire (based on the R4 cartridge, representing the concept of games piracy and the main atagonist of most of the games), and Falcom (Nihon Falcom, as she is stupidly popular in spite of being a DLC character in her debut). They could also add the sibling characters - Uni (PSP), Rom and Ram (the DS), and Nepgear (nonexistent SEGA handheld) - if so desired. I'd personally like to see Rei Ryghts (Atari) get in as well... They'd probably just start wih the 4 consoles then go from there, obviously.
Thanks for the info. I imagine they would just stick to base forms, as not all the characters have goddess forms. As for limiting to base form, I am sure there will be some kind plot reason invented to have that be the case, along with a lampshade from the cast about the power level balancing.
Yeah, for sure. Movesets are a bit too hard for characters known for having angst.
Fighting game characters can have angst. They are just typically fighting characters when they get said angst.

Yeah, I guess they didn't want to have to deal with timeline issues of having one person be in two places at once. Too bad about all of the clones though, it would have been neat to see them.
Knowing both their origins now, it would've been rather cool to have an E-Soldat and Tempelritter team up.
Yeah, maybe? Or maybe ArcSys was just looking for something a little more off-the-wall, given how they did pick the tank as one of the first characters to put in. Their movesets may also be easier to adapt for 2v2 as well.
And there is the fact that the tank would probably be easier to animate than a moving person.

Also, I'm finally watching RWBY Chibi. Thus far the Red Riding Hood sketch is my favourite. It is good.
That sketch is a rather memorable one, that's for sure. So much so that I quoted one of the lines from the sketch on instinct once. In the middle of a history class.

It was super awkward.

Yeah, definitely. I may be kind of biased, as I was hoping that P5S would be Olympics-themed spin-off...
How did you even come to think of that, considering Sega already has an Olympics spinoff game. The Phantom Thieves competing against Mario and Sonic would be quite fun though.
 
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Vatista sounds like a great interaction opportunity for Blitztank. Nice for the two to met someone who they can relate to. Also, I imagine Ruby will have quite a bit to say about fighting alongside I tank, especially since her weapon loving side is much more prominent in BBTAG.
Yeah, definitely. I imagine that a lot of people will have comments about the fact they are working with a tank; I just don't know if the tank will always have comments about working with them.

I don't know the full science of accents, but I imagine it could transfer bodies. An accent isn't genetic of course, it's just the manner of speaking you you learn from those around you.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Question is if she was German to begin with, though witches are certainly not uncommon in German folklore, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Akatsuki's has to be special in some way, otherwise this chase would make no sense. It allowed him to live frozen in the Arctic for 50 years, so that must say something. Maybe since he is "Experiment 1", his blitz engine was one of the first and has some benefit because of it?
Something like that? Or maybe his gives the other ones power or something? I definitely agree his is special because it is old for sure.

She seems to make a cameo in one of Mycale's moves as a sort of ghostly summon(Go to 1:43 of the first video below for a clear shot of it), but I have no clue what that means for her involvement. It may be just a generic Valkyrie, as Myvcale also summons Fenrir, Mjolnir, Gungnir and Jörmungandr(I think it's safe to say that Mycale may have Norse origins), but the Valkyrie she summons, while a tad bit different to the final design of Valkyria(Different boot color, different sword and Valkyria is lacking a shield), still looks exceedingly similar and is wearing a military uniform. I will also include of her boss fight, just so you can have a comparison.
Ahhhhh, interesting. Also very weird. I mean, the Norse people and German people are very close in ancestry and sometimes counted as one and the same, so I guess it works? Makes me even more sad she won't be in BBTAG though, as I'd love to see her summons interacting with the persona crew...

No idea how Valkyria went from ghost summon to clone army though. That is impressive.

I doubt they are anything close to friends now(Sai is working as a secret agent for MI6), but they do indeed have a history with each other.
Oh. Good clarification; thanks.

I decided to take a look into his story in Es-Eins to try and figure out who he is related to through possible interactions and his playstyle, but he only interacts with Perfecti and Valkyria and I am super confused by his teleport happy fighting style. Also, everyone besides is a different color palette and it's freaking me the heck out. I know this game is supposed to be lighter, but this is way too colorful. I know this is a weird thing to say in the modern day of gaming, but I would rather have this world be brown than colorful. The most I could gather from his origin is that his batch may have been destroyed when Akatsuki came and wrecked Murokuma in his story mode.
Okay. Yup. I got nothing. That fighting style looks weird to control to me, but I'll trust it would be fun. His powers to do seem to be teleportation and sometimes seemingly shooting glitter out of his hands. I am very very confused.

Thankfully, it doesn't seem the characters will inherit their base colors from this game, as Blitztank seems more in line with his original colors. Thank goodness.
Yeah, the pastels in that clip just look out of place. It feels like they had a last-minute "QUICK, MAKE IT MORE 'ANIME' IN THE HOPES IT WILL SELL BETTER!" and just damaged the aesthetic.


Thanks for the info. I imagine they would just stick to base forms, as not all the characters have goddess forms. As for limiting to base form, I am sure there will be some kind plot reason invented to have that be the case, along with a lampshade from the cast about the power level balancing.
Yeah, fair. Unless they only use the characters who are goddesses, which they technically could do if they didn't want their own company waifus to get in.

I do hope a collaboration would mean a future Neptunia game having a waifu named ArcSys, likely modeled after Ragna colour-scheme-wise. That would be fun.

Fighting game characters can have angst. They are just typically fighting characters when they get said angst.
Yes, sorry, I didn't finish that sentence: They are known for having angst and nothing else.

Knowing both their origins now, it would've been rather cool to have an E-Soldat and Tempelritter team up.
Yeah, that would be cool from a clone army PoV. I guess maybe they didn't want to have to deal with clone armies being in the BBTAG dimension in the story content?

And there is the fact that the tank would probably be easier to animate than a moving person.
Also that. Fair.

That sketch is a rather memorable one, that's for sure. So much so that I quoted one of the lines from the sketch on instinct once. In the middle of a history class.

It was super awkward.
That sounds awkward, but good instinct haha. I've already reached half-way through season 2.

Really like the characterization of Neo in this show. She's a riot. I also like Blake a lot here, when Weiss was my favourite of the original gang in the main series. Blake just works very well as bookish deadpan.

Edit: It does also remind me of this comment from BBTAG producer Mori, where he said that the office wanted Penny while he wants Adam. Funny that neither of those characters were the first ones added, but funnier that Penny isn't in the announcer files at all.

How did you even come to think of that, considering Sega already has an Olympics spinoff game. The Phantom Thieves competing against Mario and Sonic would be quite fun though.
It was before that was announced, while we were randomly speculating in the Joker thread. I was trying to think of a way to justify more spin-offs story-wise and the Olympics distracting the collective subconscious and thereby turning Mementos in a sports resort the Phantom Thieves need to play sport minigames to navigate seemed like a stupid enough idea that ATLUS would do it.
 
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Yeah, definitely. I imagine that a lot of people will have comments about the fact they are working with a tank; I just don't know if the tank will always have comments about working with them.
True, but everyone should probably have some sort of comment towards Merkava, but that's not the case. Budget and all.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Question is if she was German to begin with, though witches are certainly not uncommon in German folklore, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Besides saying she has origins from all the way back in the middle ages, I have no clue.
Ahhhhh, interesting. Also very weird. I mean, the Norse people and German people are very close in ancestry and sometimes counted as one and the same, so I guess it works? Makes me even more sad she won't be in BBTAG though, as I'd love to see her summons interacting with the persona crew...
And since Kati has a different moveset entirely, she can't do that in her place. Now that I actually think about it though, imagine the interaction between Kati and Perfecti.
No idea how Valkyria went from ghost summon to clone army though. That is impressive.
Or to be more specific, she went from a ghost summon to an SNK level boss that made a clone army.
Okay. Yup. I got nothing. That fighting style looks weird to control to me, but I'll trust it would be fun. His powers to do seem to be teleportation and sometimes seemingly shooting glitter out of his hands. I am very very confused.
I feel like I am watching a Dragon Ball character from the perspective of a third party.
Yeah, the pastels in that clip just look out of place. It feels like they had a last-minute "QUICK, MAKE IT MORE 'ANIME' IN THE HOPES IT WILL SELL BETTER!" and just damaged the aesthetic.
Funny how it is now being included in the most anime fighting game of all time with seemingly the original designs. I understand giving your characters redesigns for sequels, but it's just the same outfits with colors that don't fit as well.

Yeah, fair. Unless they only use the characters who are goddesses, which they technically could do if they didn't want their own company waifus to get in.

I do hope a collaboration would mean a future Neptunia game having a waifu named ArcSys, likely modeled after Ragna colour-scheme-wise. That would be fun.
And I figure they would want their waifus in.

Oh, they would almost certainly do that if the series is as meta as I hear.
Yeah, that would be cool from a clone army PoV. I guess maybe they didn't want to have to deal with clone armies being in the BBTAG dimension in the story content?
That would make sense, but it's clear from the E-Soldat story at least that the clones can have individuality. It's not like they would be taking in the entire army, just one or two members of said army.
That sounds awkward, but good instinct haha. I've already reached half-way through season 2.

Really like the characterization of Neo in this show. She's a riot. I also like Blake a lot here, when Weiss was my favourite of the original gang in the main series. Blake just works very well as bookish deadpan.
It's cringy to think back on, but it was something the class only gave me a little bit of a hard time over for 10 seconds before moving on.

Neo is amazing in the show. Take an already rather expressive character and put her into a show about humor and you get some great things. Again, I really hope they somehow sneak in some reference to the Neo signs in BBTAG. As for Blake, she does work strangely well in Chibi. Blake never got much humor in RWBY, so it's delightful to see here.
Edit: It does also remind me of this comment from BBTAG producer Mori, where he said that the office wanted Penny while he wants Adam. Funny that neither of those characters were the first ones added, but funnier that Penny isn't in the announcer files at all.
I am still rather baffled by the lack of Penny, even more so after getting reminded of that. Adam is a choice I expect to eventually get in, but he was never going to be the 5th RWBY character due to his rather divisive nature. Neo was just an overall win.

It was before that was announced, while we were randomly speculating in the Joker thread. I was trying to think of a way to justify more spin-offs story-wise and the Olympics distracting the collective subconscious and thereby turning Mementos in a sports resort the Phantom Thieves need to play sport minigames to navigate seemed like a stupid enough idea that ATLUS would do it.
Yeah, that does seem like something Atlus would do. Still, if this new palace ends up being something Olympic related, you could maybe have a sorta "I called it" moment in the Joker thread.
 

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True, but everyone should probably have some sort of comment towards Merkava, but that's not the case. Budget and all.
That is also very true... I'm sure most people won't acknowledge the tank, but I feel like you could write "Uh. What?" lines for anyone if you so desired... Same with people responding to Neo's muteness. This DLC can provoke a lot of chatter and a lot of silence, actually.

Besides saying she has origins from all the way back in the middle ages, I have no clue.
Ahhhhh. Fair. I guess we'll find out... eventually.

And since Kati has a different moveset entirely, she can't do that in her place. Now that I actually think about it though, imagine the interaction between Kati and Perfecti.
Oh goodness. That would be very awkward. "So, uh, do you still have my clothing from when I was in your body? As I think I left my spare tank keys in my - er, your - pockets. So, if I could have those, that would be greeaaaaat. Thanks bud!"

Or to be more specific, she went from a ghost summon to an SNK level boss that made a clone army.
Yeah, that. Which is an impressive career upgrade. Good for her, I suppose!

I feel like I am watching a Dragon Ball character from the perspective of a third party.
That is a very good description. It looks kind of insane.

Funny how it is now being included in the most anime fighting game of all time with seemingly the original designs. I understand giving your characters redesigns for sequels, but it's just the same outfits with colors that don't fit as well.
Yeah, the Anonym pallet swap looks especially strange. Though it is funny how it seems everyone is more traditional, but also Perfecti is in the game as Perfecti... Which, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't fully happen until the newer games.

And I figure they would want their waifus in.
Yeah, probably. Their waifus aren't as popular as the waifus representing other companies within the fanbase though. Which must be sad, in a sense.

Oh, they would almost certainly do that if the series is as meta as I hear.
Let me put it this way: The game I played was a remake of an older game and it had Neptune explicitly say: "Wait... This isn't what I remember happening... I knew this was a remark, but did they actually bother to add new story scenes?" when we got to the new story scenes. I'd call that pretty meta.

That would make sense, but it's clear from the E-Soldat story at least that the clones can have individuality. It's not like they would be taking in the entire army, just one or two members of said army.
Ahhhhhhhh, fair point. It'd be cool to have the Piranha Plant of BBTAG, though I guess the tank itself is already sort of that.

It's cringy to think back on, but it was something the class only gave me a little bit of a hard time over for 10 seconds before moving on.
That is good of the class. And everyone has past moments to cringe over; don't worry.

Neo is amazing in the show. Take an already rather expressive character and put her into a show about humor and you get some great things. Again, I really hope they somehow sneak in some reference to the Neo signs in BBTAG. As for Blake, she does work strangely well in Chibi. Blake never got much humor in RWBY, so it's delightful to see here.
Yeah, Neo works super well. I honestly like her bits more then some of the main cast (the detective jokes aren't my favourite to be honest). I was thinking - maybe they could have a diaogue potrait where she holds a sign, but the words are obscured for the portrait and instead appear in the text box? It would be an easy way to let her have some signs in story mode. That said, I could just see her having the signs in the background of a gag ending.

Yeah, I've always liked Blake a lot, but she may be my favourite non-Neo in Chibi. Her style of humor is just fantastically dry.

I am still rather baffled by the lack of Penny, even more so after getting reminded of that. Adam is a choice I expect to eventually get in, but he was never going to be the 5th RWBY character due to his rather divisive nature. Neo was just an overall win.
Yeah, Penny missing is honestly super weird - heck, she was even the 5th character in the RWBY board game adaptation. I would have liked to see her partner with Aigis too... Maybe they figured they had enough robots without her? Either way, I do agree that Adam not being the 5th character makes sense. Neo was a perfect choice IMHO. I would bet the 6th one will either be Cinder, to help round out our villains, or Pyrrha, to begin adding in more heroes. Adam feels like a good 8th or 9th character, once the franchise has gotten most of the big favourites in.

Yeah, that does seem like something Atlus would do. Still, if this new palace ends up being something Olympic related, you could maybe have a sorta "I called it" moment in the Joker thread.
I CALLED IT... just in a different game... oops.
 

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That is also very true... I'm sure most people won't acknowledge the tank, but I feel like you could write "Uh. What?" lines for anyone if you so desired... Same with people responding to Neo's muteness. This DLC can provoke a lot of chatter and a lot of silence, actually.
A joked about a possible interaction between Blitztank and Neo earlier, but there interaction really could possibly be summed up as.
Neo: ...
Blitztank: ...
Oh goodness. That would be very awkward. "So, uh, do you still have my clothing from when I was in your body? As I think I left my spare tank keys in my - er, your - pockets. So, if I could have those, that would be greeaaaaat. Thanks bud!"
You know, reading that with a German accent somehow makes it funnier. I am rather curious to how Kati will respond to anything Perfecti says. Who knows, maybe we will see something that gives some depth to Kati.
Yeah, that. Which is an impressive career upgrade. Good for her, I suppose!
My current headcanon(Until I hear her actual backstory) is that Mycale and Valkyria were college roommates and that Mycale, being one of the first characters in, managed to increasingly worm Valkyria in.
Yeah, the Anonym pallet swap looks especially strange. Though it is funny how it seems everyone is more traditional, but also Perfecti is in the game as Perfecti... Which, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't fully happen until the newer games.
Perfecti was actually playable a updated version of the AB, that being Ausf. Achse. Even then, she had been a boss character for awhile. You don't see people playing Ausf. Achse that much, as it was an arcade game that is horrible to emulate.

Yeah, probably. Their waifus aren't as popular as the waifus representing other companies within the fanbase though. Which must be sad, in a sense.
I imagine it's never fun to have your fans not like something as much as you do.
Let me put it this way: The game I played was a remake of an older game and it had Neptune explicitly say: "Wait... This isn't what I remember happening... I knew this was a remark, but did they actually bother to add new story scenes?" when we got to the new story scenes. I'd call that pretty meta.
Yeah, that's pretty meta. Makes me wonder how they would interact with the other series. Probably something similar to how Eltnum was in Under Night, at leas some of the time.
Ahhhhhhhh, fair point. It'd be cool to have the Piranha Plant of BBTAG, though I guess the tank itself is already sort of that.
Blitztank being compared to the Piranha Plant is quite common. E-Soldat and Tempelritter wouldn't quite be on the PP level, as that is both being a mook and memetic. I doubt those two would be quite as memetic as Blitztank, unless people really try and sell the nature of Nazi's being in this crossover fighting game.
That is good of the class. And everyone has past moments to cringe over; don't worry.
It was a great class that acknowledged that "Hey, if you are taking AP US History, you are probably not the most socially savvy. Don't worry about it, everyone else here is in the same boat."

Stinking loved that class.
Yeah, Neo works super well. I honestly like her bits more then some of the main cast (the detective jokes aren't my favourite to be honest). I was thinking - maybe they could have a diaogue potrait where she holds a sign, but the words are obscured for the portrait and instead appear in the text box? It would be an easy way to let her have some signs in story mode. That said, I could just see her having the signs in the background of a gag ending.
She taps into that classic Looney Tunes energy that we savor. And don't worry, most people agree that the Junior Detective jokes are too prevalent and not that in season 2. They pretty much disappear when season 3 rolls around. As for her using the signs, a gag ending is where I see it most likely appearing.
Yeah, I've always liked Blake a lot, but she may be my favourite non-Neo in Chibi. Her style of humor is just fantastically dry.
The Red Riding hood skit wouldn't be as great as it is if it wasn't for Blake. Everyone get's there moment, but most of the time they are playing off of her.
Yeah, Penny missing is honestly super weird - heck, she was even the 5th character in the RWBY board game adaptation. I would have liked to see her partner with Aigis too... Maybe they figured they had enough robots without her? Either way, I do agree that Adam not being the 5th character makes sense. Neo was a perfect choice IMHO. I would bet the 6th one will either be Cinder, to help round out our villains, or Pyrrha, to begin adding in more heroes. Adam feels like a good 8th or 9th character, once the franchise has gotten most of the big favourites in.
If Penny was in a wouldve totally had 4 franchise rbot battle between her, Nu-13, Aegis and Vatista. As for the next RWBY rep, it really is between Cinder and Pyrrha. Cinde rbecause of her important villain status and Pyrrha for being the likely choice of JNPR(Jaune would cause some backlash for being so canonically weak in the first 3 seasons and you can't just add Nora or Ren without the other soon after).

I CALLED IT... just in a different game... oops.
Calling a plotpoint of the main game would still be rather impressive in hindsight, especially with how out of left field the concept would be at the time(We knew little of Kasumi back then).
 

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A joked about a possible interaction between Blitztank and Neo earlier, but there interaction really could possibly be summed up as.
Neo: ...
Blitztank: ...
Lol. That would be great. Or, if they do somehow get signs working on the sprite.
Blitztank: ...
Neo: [THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!]

You know, reading that with a German accent somehow makes it funnier. I am rather curious to how Kati will respond to anything Perfecti says. Who knows, maybe we will see something that gives some depth to Kati.
Thank you haha. I really do hope she has a German accent, even if she maybe should be Norwegian based on her summons... Yeah, it'd be nice to see some depth come to Kati.

My current headcanon(Until I hear her actual backstory) is that Mycale and Valkyria were college roommates and that Mycale, being one of the first characters in, managed to increasingly worm Valkyria in.
Lol. Obviously. 10/10 headcanon.

Perfecti was actually playable a updated version of the AB, that being Ausf. Achse. Even then, she had been a boss character for awhile. You don't see people playing Ausf. Achse that much, as it was an arcade game that is horrible to emulate.
That is the version that had its logo appear in the BBTAG trailer! So, I guess that makes sense, even if it is a game that nobody played.


I imagine it's never fun to have your fans not like something as much as you do.
Yeah... To be fair, they did make their own representives a bit more stock character-y, while everyone else is kind of a parody of their most famous game franchises...

Yeah, that's pretty meta. Makes me wonder how they would interact with the other series. Probably something similar to how Eltnum was in Under Night, at leas some of the time.
One assumes, yes. They also may be annoyed at the RWBY cast for not being from a video game; the CASUALS.

Blitztank being compared to the Piranha Plant is quite common. E-Soldat and Tempelritter wouldn't quite be on the PP level, as that is both being a mook and memetic. I doubt those two would be quite as memetic as Blitztank, unless people really try and sell the nature of Nazi's being in this crossover fighting game.
I mean, that is true. They aren't good memes, but they are random mooks. While at least Blitztank does have a unique story and goals as a standalone character, AFIAK? The Nazis being there would be weird enough to get people talking, at least.

It was a great class that acknowledged that "Hey, if you are taking AP US History, you are probably not the most socially savvy. Don't worry about it, everyone else here is in the same boat."

Stinking loved that class.
Ahhhhhh, that's always nice. As a History Major, we assume everyone is not socially savvy 100% of the time.

She taps into that classic Looney Tunes energy that we savor. And don't worry, most people agree that the Junior Detective jokes are too prevalent and not that in season 2. They pretty much disappear when season 3 rolls around. As for her using the signs, a gag ending is where I see it most likely appearing.
Yeah, definitely. I just finished Season 2 and really enjoyed it - the Non-Descript Winter Holiday Special was fantastic and will be joining Pikachu's Winter Vacation as an obscure thing I will force my friends to watch at Holiday parties. I'm excited to see the Junior Detective bit not be appearing in Season 3 then haha. Yeah, I can see her having a sign in the background of an Eros gag...

The Red Riding hood skit wouldn't be as great as it is if it wasn't for Blake. Everyone get's there moment, but most of the time they are playing off of her.
Yeah, definitely. I also like her ending gag to the subliminal messaging gag.

If Penny was in a wouldve totally had 4 franchise rbot battle between her, Nu-13, Aegis and Vatista. As for the next RWBY rep, it really is between Cinder and Pyrrha. Cinde rbecause of her important villain status and Pyrrha for being the likely choice of JNPR(Jaune would cause some backlash for being so canonically weak in the first 3 seasons and you can't just add Nora or Ren without the other soon after).
Yeah, that would have been great... I really wonder why they excluded her... Agreed about those characters. I feel like Jaune could be justified if they did, like, monthly updates and added Team JNPR in the order they appear in the name, but it's easier to just add the popular Pyrrha.

As for the other characters... I really don't know how likely Sun, Roman, and Emerald are? Adam has the power of being the producer's most-wanted on his side, so I expect him sooner rather then later, but the other three randoms are just kind of... there. Sun is popular and could be added, though him missing any of his team would be odd - especially as Sun/Neptune has been drilled into me by Chibi. Roman would make sense, but Neo has his hat, so I don't know if he's happening at all? Emerald without Mercury would strike me as odd, but I suppose she is a good waifu. I almost wonder if they had her name recorded out of plans for Cinder/Emerald and Roman/Neo as evildoer/henchman pairs, but ditched the idea in favour of adding Neo (w/ a fanservice-y hat) and Cinder as the evil duo.

Calling a plotpoint of the main game would still be rather impressive in hindsight, especially with how out of left field the concept would be at the time(We knew little of Kasumi back then).
I guess so! I definitely wasn't right about most things about Kasumi though haha.
 

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Lol. That would be great. Or, if they do somehow get signs working on the sprite.
Blitztank: ...
Neo: [THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!]
Truly the best OTP.
Thank you haha. I really do hope she has a German accent, even if she maybe should be Norwegian based on her summons... Yeah, it'd be nice to see some depth come to Kati.
I imagine Kati has had an interaction with Perfecti before in Es-Eins, as Perfecti seems to be a boss you have to face in most routes of that game, but I would have no clue of what is being said. Hopefully BBTAG addresses the relationship.
That is the version that had its logo appear in the BBTAG trailer! So, I guess that makes sense, even if it is a game that nobody played.
I am sure Japan loved that game, it was just never available in the west.

Yeah... To be fair, they did make their own representives a bit more stock character-y, while everyone else is kind of a parody of their most famous game franchises...
That seems a bit odd. Are they not one to poke fun of themselves like that?
One assumes, yes. They also may be annoyed at the RWBY cast for not being from a video game; the CASUALS.
That sounds about right.
I mean, that is true. They aren't good memes, but they are random mooks. While at least Blitztank does have a unique story and goals as a standalone character, AFIAK? The Nazis being there would be weird enough to get people talking, at least.
Of course, I imagine few people memeing the heck out of Blitztank know of the nature of his character beyond the metallic exterior. A tank being a playable fighter is just more eye catching then a character that you might have to look more into to figure out that they are for sure a Nazi.
Ahhhhhh, that's always nice. As a History Major, we assume everyone is not socially savvy 100% of the time.
It was a great class. Best teacher I ever had as well.
Yeah, definitely. I just finished Season 2 and really enjoyed it - the Non-Descript Winter Holiday Special was fantastic and will be joining Pikachu's Winter Vacation as an obscure thing I will force my friends to watch at Holiday parties. I'm excited to see the Junior Detective bit not be appearing in Season 3 then haha. Yeah, I can see her having a sign in the background of an Eros gag...
Non-Descript Winter Holiday is such a twist on a classic. A great parody, through and through. I didn't even consider how Neo would play into an Eros gag. Make sense that she would be included though, as she is probably the oldest RWBY character we have in BBTAG.
Yeah, definitely. I also like her ending gag to the subliminal messaging gag.
You know, thinking about RWBY Chibi in a BBTAG context, I wonder how Rooster Teeth would handle the BBTAG characters if they ever hypothetically made Chibi gags for the game. Doubt it would ever happen, but it's fun to think about.
Yeah, that would have been great... I really wonder why they excluded her... Agreed about those characters. I feel like Jaune could be justified if they did, like, monthly updates and added Team JNPR in the order they appear in the name, but it's easier to just add the popular Pyrrha.
Jaune in that context would have him fully excepted, but Pyrrha is just a safe bet.
As for the other characters... I really don't know how likely Sun, Roman, and Emerald are? Adam has the power of being the producer's most-wanted on his side, so I expect him sooner rather then later, but the other three randoms are just kind of... there. Sun is popular and could be added, though him missing any of his team would be odd - especially as Sun/Neptune has been drilled into me by Chibi. Roman would make sense, but Neo has his hat, so I don't know if he's happening at all? Emerald without Mercury would strike me as odd, but I suppose she is a good waifu. I almost wonder if they had her name recorded out of plans for Cinder/Emerald and Roman/Neo as evildoer/henchman pairs, but ditched the idea in favour of adding Neo (w/ a fanservice-y hat) and Cinder as the evil duo.
Sun feels like an eventuality due to his gun-chucks alone. I don't see Neptune being missing as that much of a problem, as Sun pretty much spent all of appearances in seasons 1, 4 and 5 away from him. I expect Adam to get in eventually, but he might be a bit later depending on how they want to handle villains. Roman's chances would've been fine if it were not for the hat reference. Emerald feels like the most oddball choice of all, especially since Mercury is the one doing the most fighting. I guess they just wanted another illusionist minion in.

Does anyone know what time the event is going to be?
I think the times stated here is about when it lasts.
 

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Truly the best OTP.

I imagine Kati has had an interaction with Perfecti before in Es-Eins, as Perfecti seems to be a boss you have to face in most routes of that game, but I would have no clue of what is being said. Hopefully BBTAG addresses the relationship.

I am sure Japan loved that game, it was just never available in the west.


That seems a bit odd. Are they not one to poke fun of themselves like that?

That sounds about right.

Of course, I imagine few people memeing the heck out of Blitztank know of the nature of his character beyond the metallic exterior. A tank being a playable fighter is just more eye catching then a character that you might have to look more into to figure out that they are for sure a Nazi.

It was a great class. Best teacher I ever had as well.

Non-Descript Winter Holiday is such a twist on a classic. A great parody, through and through. I didn't even consider how Neo would play into an Eros gag. Make sense that she would be included though, as she is probably the oldest RWBY character we have in BBTAG.

You know, thinking about RWBY Chibi in a BBTAG context, I wonder how Rooster Teeth would handle the BBTAG characters if they ever hypothetically made Chibi gags for the game. Doubt it would ever happen, but it's fun to think about.

Jaune in that context would have him fully excepted, but Pyrrha is just a safe bet.

Sun feels like an eventuality due to his gun-chucks alone. I don't see Neptune being missing as that much of a problem, as Sun pretty much spent all of appearances in seasons 1, 4 and 5 away from him. I expect Adam to get in eventually, but he might be a bit later depending on how they want to handle villains. Roman's chances would've been fine if it were not for the hat reference. Emerald feels like the most oddball choice of all, especially since Mercury is the one doing the most fighting. I guess they just wanted another illusionist minion in.


I think the times stated here is about when it lasts.
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Truly the best OTP.

I imagine Kati has had an interaction with Perfecti before in Es-Eins, as Perfecti seems to be a boss you have to face in most routes of that game, but I would have no clue of what is being said. Hopefully BBTAG addresses the relationship.

I am sure Japan loved that game, it was just never available in the west.


That seems a bit odd. Are they not one to poke fun of themselves like that?

That sounds about right.

Of course, I imagine few people memeing the heck out of Blitztank know of the nature of his character beyond the metallic exterior. A tank being a playable fighter is just more eye catching then a character that you might have to look more into to figure out that they are for sure a Nazi.

It was a great class. Best teacher I ever had as well.

Non-Descript Winter Holiday is such a twist on a classic. A great parody, through and through. I didn't even consider how Neo would play into an Eros gag. Make sense that she would be included though, as she is probably the oldest RWBY character we have in BBTAG.

You know, thinking about RWBY Chibi in a BBTAG context, I wonder how Rooster Teeth would handle the BBTAG characters if they ever hypothetically made Chibi gags for the game. Doubt it would ever happen, but it's fun to think about.

Jaune in that context would have him fully excepted, but Pyrrha is just a safe bet.

Sun feels like an eventuality due to his gun-chucks alone. I don't see Neptune being missing as that much of a problem, as Sun pretty much spent all of appearances in seasons 1, 4 and 5 away from him. I expect Adam to get in eventually, but he might be a bit later depending on how they want to handle villains. Roman's chances would've been fine if it were not for the hat reference. Emerald feels like the most oddball choice of all, especially since Mercury is the one doing the most fighting. I guess they just wanted another illusionist minion in.


I think the times stated here is about when it lasts.
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Any idea when that “special announcement” is supposed to happen?

Also the event is located in California (I checked), so for EST it starts 50 minutes from now
 
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confirmed spring 2020 release for overseas

that's the announcement
 

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confirmed spring 2020 release for overseas

that's the announcement
Yup.

This feels hecking ominous though.

Edit:
They say that this was announced right after a trailer. I imagine the trailer is just the English version of something we have seen before, I am just wondering which one it is.

Edit 2:
Well, it's a new trailer. No major in-game revelations or anything, but we now have more scenes from Kasumi's casino appearance, which is great to have for this thread.
 
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Truly the best OTP.
The duo to end all duos!

I imagine Kati has had an interaction with Perfecti before in Es-Eins, as Perfecti seems to be a boss you have to face in most routes of that game, but I would have no clue of what is being said. Hopefully BBTAG addresses the relationship.
Ahhhhh, yeah, that would make sense. I'd like to see them interact.

I am sure Japan loved that game, it was just never available in the west.
Also makes sense. It is a good sign from the PoV of someone who doesn't want the Es-Ein designs though!

That seems a bit odd. Are they not one to poke fun of themselves like that?
Oh, the entire game pokes fun of itself. It'd be hard to directly parody the characters of a game inside of itself though?

Of course, I imagine few people memeing the heck out of Blitztank know of the nature of his character beyond the metallic exterior. A tank being a playable fighter is just more eye catching then a character that you might have to look more into to figure out that they are for sure a Nazi.
Yeah, that is definitely true. It is mostly funny that the tank is hanging out with humans and able to be thrown by them.

It was a great class. Best teacher I ever had as well.
Great to hear! Glad you had fun.

Non-Descript Winter Holiday is such a twist on a classic. A great parody, through and through. I didn't even consider how Neo would play into an Eros gag. Make sense that she would be included though, as she is probably the oldest RWBY character we have in BBTAG.
It's a wonderful parody. She'd be good to have in the background in my opinion, maybe making some sort of pun via sign while observing the chaos.

You know, thinking about RWBY Chibi in a BBTAG context, I wonder how Rooster Teeth would handle the BBTAG characters if they ever hypothetically made Chibi gags for the game. Doubt it would ever happen, but it's fun to think about.
Oooooo. Actually, that would be funny, given how chibi Kokonoe appeared after endings in BB... It'd be cool to see the chibi worlds collide just as the main ones do...

Sun feels like an eventuality due to his gun-chucks alone. I don't see Neptune being missing as that much of a problem, as Sun pretty much spent all of appearances in seasons 1, 4 and 5 away from him. I expect Adam to get in eventually, but he might be a bit later depending on how they want to handle villains. Roman's chances would've been fine if it were not for the hat reference. Emerald feels like the most oddball choice of all, especially since Mercury is the one doing the most fighting. I guess they just wanted another illusionist minion in.
Fair! Sun does make sense on his own too, though I would be surprised if he was in the next couple of characters. I agree with you about Adam. Yeah, Emerald without Mercury is just super odd, but she definitely has a potentially cool moveset? I'd take her for sure, but I do wonder how they would explain her entering solo.

confirmed spring 2020 release for overseas

that's the announcement
Welp. That technically counts as news, I suppose. I'm sad they didn't give the Valentine's Day release another go, but that works....
 

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The duo to end all duos!
You know, that phrase fits very well in the context of BBTAG.
Ahhhhh, yeah, that would make sense. I'd like to see them interact.
They almost certainly will. Akatsuki Blitzkampf strikes me as the sort of series that will naturally have a lot of interactions among itself, as the characters are very interconnected.
Also makes sense. It is a good sign from the PoV of someone who doesn't want the Es-Ein designs though!
Oh, it's great for us. I am sure those designs will appear as alts, but that is where they actually fit.

Oh, the entire game pokes fun of itself. It'd be hard to directly parody the characters of a game inside of itself though?
That makes sense. I know they poke fun at the very nature of the game and such, I was just wondering if those characters were to close to home for that to be possible. Maybe I should've been more clear.
Yeah, that is definitely true. It is mostly funny that the tank is hanging out with humans and able to be thrown by them.
Of course. Thee fact that said Tank is likely going to get a chibi avatar that can probably dance is just icing on top.
It's a wonderful parody. She'd be good to have in the background in my opinion, maybe making some sort of pun via sign while observing the chaos.
You think she wouldn't be effected by the Spectacles of Eros?
Oooooo. Actually, that would be funny, given how chibi Kokonoe appeared after endings in BB... It'd be cool to see the chibi worlds collide just as the main ones do...
Yeah, that is part of the reason the idea came to mind. I think the key hurdle to get across in such a parody(Besides all the legal work) is properly capitalizing on all the characters. I imagine the crew at RT doesn't have the most experience with all the games represented.
Fair! Sun does make sense on his own too, though I would be surprised if he was in the next couple of characters. I agree with you about Adam. Yeah, Emerald without Mercury is just super odd, but she definitely has a potentially cool moveset? I'd take her for sure, but I do wonder how they would explain her entering solo.
Emerald is really loyal to Cinder, so maybe they could use that?

Welp. That technically counts as news, I suppose. I'm sad they didn't give the Valentine's Day release another go, but that works....
We did get some new shots from scenes we knew of before(Both of which involve Kasumi), which has caused me to have some more to talk about in regard to predictions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJLzB7-WmA
I am almost certain that the scene where Kasumi meets Joker in the casino is during the opening getaway. It's the only time where Joker is so alone, and the fact that he is completely surrounded makes me think things are playing out rather differently. The fact that Joker's initial reaction doesn't seem so happy)10 second mark of video) makes me think she is inadvertently screwing up the plan the PT's had made. This scene is also starting to give me major intro vibes, if that makes sense. We also get another shot that shows the start of her awakening at the 13 second mark, which once again showcases that her awakening is in the new palace(At least, that is the new palace in the background of that shot, right?). Once again, this makes her appearance in the Casino all the more confusing, especially with her saying that she will no longer be reliant on him due to her newfound power. There was the idea that maybe she hadn't awakened her Persona yet, but that does not sound like the words of someone who has little power when it comes to using Persona's.
 
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What if all the Casino stuff happens in like, February, this time?
That seems unlikely, especially since Crow is among the Phantom Thieves as Black Mask in a scene of the new palace. That at the very least indicates that he had already had his time as Crow in the Casino.
 

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looking like a haru-type situation to me

enough of a threat to be recognised as such by the palace (hence the costume), but her persona isn't awakened until the theatre/stage/olympics dungeon

the early-game scene where she does a forward flip to catch a kid's balloon in the park already shows that she's probably capable of the swordplay and acrobatics in the metaverse, with or without a persona
 

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looking like a haru-type situation to me

enough of a threat to be recognised as such by the palace (hence the costume), but her persona isn't awakened until the theatre/stage/olympics dungeon

the early-game scene where she does a forward flip to catch a kid's balloon in the park already shows that she's probably capable of the swordplay and acrobatics in the metaverse, with or without a persona
There is just one thing I am wondering in regard to that. Why is she not wearing her thief attire when she does awaken her Persona in the new palace? Haru still wore hers before she awakened.
 

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There is just one thing I am wondering in regard to that. Why is she not wearing her thief attire when she does awaken her Persona in the new palace? Haru still wore hers before she awakened.
if the final palace is related to her in some way (maybe a theatre owned by a corrupt/greedy manager of kasumi's or something along those lines), it might be that it doesn't recognise her as a threat
 

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if the final palace is related to her in some way (maybe a theatre owned by a corrupt/greedy manager of kasumi's or something along those lines), it might be that it doesn't recognise her as a threat
That is certainly possible, but couldn't the same be said for Haru? I mean, she was so off of her father's radar that she didn't even have a cognitive version in his palace. This does seem the most likely explanation though.
 

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You know, that phrase fits very well in the context of BBTAG.
I didn't intend that, but, yes, yes it is.

They almost certainly will. Akatsuki Blitzkampf strikes me as the sort of series that will naturally have a lot of interactions among itself, as the characters are very interconnected.
Agreed. I'm excited to see what they are. I'm also interested to see how far they go in terms of adding new interactions for the characters who didn't get them...

Oh, it's great for us. I am sure those designs will appear as alts, but that is where they actually fit.
Definitely. The word alts does remind me: Do we think that they will add new pallets for everyone based on AH, AB, and SK? As that would make sense to me, but also be a lot of work that would probably be mostly free?

That makes sense. I know they poke fun at the very nature of the game and such, I was just wondering if those characters were to close to home for that to be possible. Maybe I should've been more clear.
Ahhhh, okay. Yeah, their self-inserts are more just the first people that Neptune usually meets in her journies. Usually they seem abnormally nice to her and take on a vaguely maternal role, which I guess is their reference?

Of course. Thee fact that said Tank is likely going to get a chibi avatar that can probably dance is just icing on top.
It is a very good icing of course, though maybe a cherry on top of the ice cream sundae is a better metaphor given another one of the characters...

You think she wouldn't be effected by the Spectacles of Eros?
I think she would be to some extent, but they will have an even larger crowd surrounding the person then usual this time. So I feel like she could hang around towards the back of the crowd to make a cheeky pun, even if she's interested.

Yeah, that is part of the reason the idea came to mind. I think the key hurdle to get across in such a parody(Besides all the legal work) is properly capitalizing on all the characters. I imagine the crew at RT doesn't have the most experience with all the games represented.
Yeah... Additionally, while part of the humour with chibi is that it's been said by RWBY characters, a lot of the jokes could be used with anyone in an archetype (ex/ Weiss' "Cake Butler" routine feels like it could be written for any entitled rich character ever). I think they could write for the other characters easily enough if someone just explains archetypes to them, but that also would kind of make the crossover pointless? I don't know how easy it would be to make everyone actually stand out and not just feel like they had RWBY chibi jokes that they gave to other characters...

Emerald is really loyal to Cinder, so maybe they could use that?
Yeah, definitely. Also, watching the full clip where he discusses RWBY, he also tells a fan he will do his best to put Qrow in, who is also missing from the announcer files. I'm, uh, less surprised about his exclusion though. It does make me wonder if Junpei were to suddenly sound a bit different were he to get in though...

I am almost certain that the scene where Kasumi meets Joker in the casino is during the opening getaway. It's the only time where Joker is so alone, and the fact that he is completely surrounded makes me think things are playing out rather differently. The fact that Joker's initial reaction doesn't seem so happy)10 second mark of video) makes me think she is inadvertently screwing up the plan the PT's had made. This scene is also starting to give me major intro vibes, if that makes sense. We also get another shot that shows the start of her awakening at the 13 second mark, which once again showcases that her awakening is in the new palace(At least, that is the new palace in the background of that shot, right?). Once again, this makes her appearance in the Casino all the more confusing, especially with her saying that she will no longer be reliant on him due to her newfound power. There was the idea that maybe she hadn't awakened her Persona yet, but that does not sound like the words of someone who has little power when it comes to using Persona's.
Agreed 100%. I imagine that she doesn't realize it's already a terrible time to interrupt and will sheepishly duck out of the way when the chaos begins. I doubt she'd be actually working for Akechi.

It does make me wonder though: What do we think P5R's justification will be for Joker not going to jail?
 

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Agreed. I'm excited to see what they are. I'm also interested to see how far they go in terms of adding new interactions for the characters who didn't get them...
Do you mean the interactions of the characters added along with Heart or in general?
Definitely. The word alts does remind me: Do we think that they will add new pallets for everyone based on AH, AB, and SK? As that would make sense to me, but also be a lot of work that would probably be mostly free?
Don't they typicallly add in new alts every once and awhile with these games?
Ahhhh, okay. Yeah, their self-inserts are more just the first people that Neptune usually meets in her journies. Usually they seem abnormally nice to her and take on a vaguely maternal role, which I guess is their reference?
That seems to fit.
It is a very good icing of course, though maybe a cherry on top of the ice cream sundae is a better metaphor given another one of the characters...
I have no idea why I put icing instead of cherry. Sometimes I just put the first thing that comes to mind when I type fast.
I think she would be to some extent, but they will have an even larger crowd surrounding the person then usual this time. So I feel like she could hang around towards the back of the crowd to make a cheeky pun, even if she's interested.
I could see that working. I half expect her to still try and stab someone.
Yeah... Additionally, while part of the humour with chibi is that it's been said by RWBY characters, a lot of the jokes could be used with anyone in an archetype (ex/ Weiss' "Cake Butler" routine feels like it could be written for any entitled rich character ever). I think they could write for the other characters easily enough if someone just explains archetypes to them, but that also would kind of make the crossover pointless? I don't know how easy it would be to make everyone actually stand out and not just feel like they had RWBY chibi jokes that they gave to other characters...
I don't think it would make the crossover pointless(We still got the characters interacting and all), but it would not be using the opportunity to it's greatest potential. I almost think the best idea would be just to have the other protags join the regular RWBY Chibi cast and go from there. That way you would have a better foundation to build yourself up with.
Yeah, definitely. Also, watching the full clip where he discusses RWBY, he also tells a fan he will do his best to put Qrow in, who is also missing from the announcer files. I'm, uh, less surprised about his exclusion though. It does make me wonder if Junpei were to suddenly sound a bit different were he to get in though...
I don't think Qrow's absence has anything to do with the Vic situation, as it really doesn't matter in the long run of the character(They already have a new VA for him) and this was probably a decision before the controversy happened(The fact that Jumpei is still in the files helps with this idea). I think Qrow's absence is because of two factors. His weapon is nothing new, as Ragna also wields a sword that can transform into a scythe(That and he would be our 4th scythe user), and the RWBY cast seems to mainly be taking from pre-V3 appearances(Roman's hat seemingly being the exception), which is the volume Qrow first appeared in. As for Jumpei however, he is totally going to get a new VA. I think every party involved(ArkSys, Rooster Teeth, Atlus, probably even Vic himself, etc.) recognizes the PR disaster that would result if Vic play Jumpei in BBTAG, especially with how big RWBY's involvement is for this game. And it's not like Persona VA's getting replaced is an uncommon occurrence(Although admittingly, that seems to mostly happen with Persona 4 characters).

Agreed 100%. I imagine that she doesn't realize it's already a terrible time to interrupt and will sheepishly duck out of the way when the chaos begins. I doubt she'd be actually working for Akechi.

It does make me wonder though: What do we think P5R's justification will be for Joker not going to jail?
I actually think they are going to play a rather daring move and have Kasumi caught alongside Joker. Call it a gut feeling, but I don't think they would show her off in the intro like this if she was just going to duck out a couple minutes later. It would certainly add some new tension to the interrogation. Most people going in know about the plan, so having this wild card in the play would throw everything we knew out of the window.

Before we got more info on Akechi, I thought Akechi coming clean would be Joker's key out, but now I am not so sure.
 

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Do you mean the interactions of the characters added along with Heart or in general?
New interactions with the characters added with Heart. Obviously Naoto/Naoto is a fan demand, but I'm not sure who else will be commenting on things.

Don't they typicallly add in new alts every once and awhile with these games?
I think so? Referential alts have always been more special then the usual DLC alts, which are just solid colours.

That said, it would prepare Ragna for a Smash apperance - colours based on Jin, Yu, Hyde, Ruby, Heart, Akatsuki, and Yumi/Asuka/whoever-they-pick-as-the-SK-protag. You've got your 7 alternates for Smash. Also probably would cause some serious fanboying on the part of the RWBY production team if Smash had a Ruby-inspired pallet swap.

I have no idea why I put icing instead of cherry. Sometimes I just put the first thing that comes to mind when I type fast.
It worked as a metaphor. I am still deeply saddened by people ignoring the ice cream potential of Neo - "GET THE SCOOP ON THE LATEST BBTAG DLC CHARACTERS" would have been a great pun-title for any videos reporting on the leaks.

I could see that working. I half expect her to still try and stab someone.
Also a definite possibility. Depends on if they want to play up her evil or just make her more into the chibi character for the purposes of a gag ending.

I don't think it would make the crossover pointless(We still got the characters interacting and all), but it would not be using the opportunity to it's greatest potential. I almost think the best idea would be just to have the other protags join the regular RWBY Chibi cast and go from there. That way you would have a better foundation to build yourself up with.
Pointless was probably going too far, but it would be definitely an underuse of the IP. That does sound like the best idea, especially given how Chibi worked so well slowly building up the cast...

On that note, I just finished Season 3. It was very good, especially the final RWBY crossover scene. I will say Season 3 overall felt a bit more "We're randomly parodying X now," which I didn't mind some of the time, but other times I just wished they'd focus on the lives of the characters. Penny learning from the Cat in the Hat was good though. My favourite sketches overall are probably: Little Red Riding Hood, Cinder's Evil Plans, Ruby's subliminal messaging, Nondescript Winter Holiday, and basically everything with Penny. What are your favourite moments?

I don't think Qrow's absence has anything to do with the Vic situation, as it really doesn't matter in the long run of the character(They already have a new VA for him) and this was probably a decision before the controversy happened(The fact that Jumpei is still in the files helps with this idea). I think Qrow's absence is because of two factors. His weapon is nothing new, as Ragna also wields a sword that can transform into a scythe(That and he would be our 4th scythe user), and the RWBY cast seems to mainly be taking from pre-V3 appearances(Roman's hat seemingly being the exception), which is the volume Qrow first appeared in.
That is fair! I don't really see much use in having him myself - he'd also kind of stand out amongst the rest of the student cast - but I do find it funny he was also excluded in spite of stated interest in having him. I hadn't considered his weapon connection to Ragna though. That is funny.

As for Jumpei however, he is totally going to get a new VA. I think every party involved(ArkSys, Rooster Teeth, Atlus, probably even Vic himself, etc.) recognizes the PR disaster that would result if Vic play Jumpei in BBTAG, especially with how big RWBY's involvement is for this game. And it's not like Persona VA's getting replaced is an uncommon occurrence(Although admittingly, that seems to mostly happen with Persona 4 characters).
Agreed. I definitely think this one will quietly happen with no official statement; I was being cheeky when I acted as if there was a chance he wasn't going to be replaced. The chaos would be very chaotic if he continued to be Junpei, especially in a game where Junpei would probably speak directly to Ruby and crowd...

I actually think they are going to play a rather daring move and have Kasumi caught alongside Joker. Call it a gut feeling, but I don't think they would show her off in the intro like this if she was just going to duck out a couple minutes later. It would certainly add some new tension to the interrogation. Most people going in know about the plan, so having this wild card in the play would throw everything we knew out of the window.
That... actually makes a lot of sense? It would definitely be a major way to switch up the game, given the flashfowards use as a narrative device. It would also explain why Kasumi is suddenly hanging out with the Thieves at New Year's - Joker drags her along as they bonded over being yelled at together for hours. The only question is why Kasumi's reveal of being on your side in the new palace would be a surprise, as one figures she'd grow to like you over the course of the interrogation.

This could also help give her growth if she does become the wish-granter, as hearing the Phantom Thief leader explain literally every detail of everything he did would likely pull on your heartstrings a bit and could cause her to soften her views against them, possibly enough to even try (and fail) to be like them. That said, I'm still thinking it will be some random other person. I don't see it being Kasumi or Akechi at this point.

Before we got more info on Akechi, I thought Akechi coming clean would be Joker's key out, but now I am not so sure.
Yeah, my first thought was that they'd add some new character who aids Joker and helps him get out earlier, but that doesn't seem to be the case... Akechi confessing would make sense, but he doesn't go to jail either. So, unless wish-magic gets Akechi out of jail (or maybe Joker out of jail too?), then idk...
 

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New interactions with the characters added with Heart. Obviously Naoto/Naoto is a fan demand, but I'm not sure who else will be commenting on things.
When it comes to the others, my guesses are that Teddy will flirt with most of the girls(And get promptly rejected), Heart will talk with all of the other protags, and Seth will talk with the other ninja like characters.
I think so? Referential alts have always been more special then the usual DLC alts, which are just solid colours.

That said, it would prepare Ragna for a Smash apperance - colours based on Jin, Yu, Hyde, Ruby, Heart, Akatsuki, and Yumi/Asuka/whoever-they-pick-as-the-SK-protag. You've got your 7 alternates for Smash. Also probably would cause some serious fanboying on the part of the RWBY production team if Smash had a Ruby-inspired pallet swap.
Special in what way? "We will release them for all" special?

That would work out quite nicely. Any sort of RWBY reference making it in Smash would be a major celebration, from staff to community.
It worked as a metaphor. I am still deeply saddened by people ignoring the ice cream potential of Neo - "GET THE SCOOP ON THE LATEST BBTAG DLC CHARACTERS" would have been a great pun-title for any videos reporting on the leaks.
Glad it did. And I can understand that disappointment, as I always enjoy a good pun. Give it time though, I am sure those sort of titles will start appearing when she is playable and people start making combo video's of her.
On that note, I just finished Season 3. It was very good, especially the final RWBY crossover scene. I will say Season 3 overall felt a bit more "We're randomly parodying X now," which I didn't mind some of the time, but other times I just wished they'd focus on the lives of the characters. Penny learning from the Cat in the Hat was good though. My favourite sketches overall are probably: Little Red Riding Hood, Cinder's Evil Plans, Ruby's subliminal messaging, Nondescript Winter Holiday, and basically everything with Penny. What are your favourite moments?
I guess I can see that parody thing, but I never really noticed it until you pointed it out. It's a shame the season had to end a whole 8 episodes early(Fun fact, Coco was teased as a character to appear in later shorts of season 3, with there even being a preview of a Coco transition). As for the highlights I recall outside of the skits you mentioned(S3 is most fresh in my mind, so I recall those skits off the top of my head more easily), I rather like the Red button sketch, the Blake and Zwei sketches, all of S3 E8, and I found the RWBY Dreams skit a good one to end on.
That is fair! I don't really see much use in having him myself - he'd also kind of stand out amongst the rest of the student cast - but I do find it funny he was also excluded in spite of stated interest in having him. I hadn't considered his weapon connection to Ragna though. That is funny.
Qrow would add tragically little despite his popularity(Which may be why Penny is gone as well), which is never a nice thing to admit, both from a fan and creator perspective. And when it comes to Ragna, it's kinda interesting how you connect him to so many parts of Ruby(Both clad in Red scythe wielders, with Ragna being the rough older brother to Ruby's kind little sister, Yang(Selfless older siblings with hidden depths, have eyes that turn red and had their right arms cut off by someone voiced by Yuuichi Nakamura) and Qrow(Similar weapons).

That... actually makes a lot of sense? It would definitely be a major way to switch up the game, given the flashfowards use as a narrative device. It would also explain why Kasumi is suddenly hanging out with the Thieves at New Year's - Joker drags her along as they bonded over being yelled at together for hours. The only question is why Kasumi's reveal of being on your side in the new palace would be a surprise, as one figures she'd grow to like you over the course of the interrogation.
I guess the one problem with this is that we have not seen her in the "Akechi is about to blow you brains out" scene, but there could be a number of factors in play that could have her not be there. Plus, we have never actually seen the in-game interrogation with Sae as of yet. I think I brought up before that I had a theory I had little belief in where the interrogation was drastically different or even gone so they could do things with Sae's confidant, but now I am starting to think I wasn't too off about it being different in some way. As for the Kasumi joining your side thing, have the trailers made it seem a big deal in the new palace? The scene with the most drama on her helping you is the scene where she joins Joker to fight shadows, but that is in the Casino.
This could also help give her growth if she does become the wish-granter, as hearing the Phantom Thief leader explain literally every detail of everything he did would likely pull on your heartstrings a bit and could cause her to soften her views against them, possibly enough to even try (and fail) to be like them. That said, I'm still thinking it will be some random other person. I don't see it being Kasumi or Akechi at this point.
That could certainly work, especially if this whole wish granting thing is to originally just please the Phantom Thieves(We have not seen anyone else have their wishes granted).

Also, I would just like to point out this theory is just the P5 equivalent to Tales from the Borderlands.
Yeah, my first thought was that they'd add some new character who aids Joker and helps him get out earlier, but that doesn't seem to be the case... Akechi confessing would make sense, but he doesn't go to jail either. So, unless wish-magic gets Akechi out of jail (or maybe Joker out of jail too?), then idk...
I feel like wishes may be at play here.
 

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When it comes to the others, my guesses are that Teddy will flirt with most of the girls(And get promptly rejected), Heart will talk with all of the other protags, and Seth will talk with the other ninja like characters.
Good guesses. I imagine Blake may have some comments for Teddie especially - call them Beauty and the Beast in Heat (side-note: it would have been uneeded work, but every duo having a name would be cute). Heart will probably be spreading the power of positivity and love both to the other happy characters and to the contrasting sad ones.

Special in what way? "We will release them for all" special?
They're usually the final ones before the DLC costumes and are treated with some degree of reverence. The DLC ones tend to be the standard "LET'S MAKE YOU ALL GOLD" kind of outfits. CTB breaking the mold would make sense though.

That would work out quite nicely. Any sort of RWBY reference making it in Smash would be a major celebration, from staff to community.
Definitely. It'd be fun to see some minds get blown, especially if Sakurai does another Hero-style trailer where all of the minor details are discussed to death. He may even... say Ruby's name! Dun dun dun!

Glad it did. And I can understand that disappointment, as I always enjoy a good pun. Give it time though, I am sure those sort of titles will start appearing when she is playable and people start making combo video's of her.
True indeed. The potential is there. I did also see some "We All Scream for Ice Cream!" comments on the EVO hall reacting to the trailer. In spite of it being leaked, Neo blew minds (including my own).

I guess I can see that parody thing, but I never really noticed it until you pointed it out. It's a shame the season had to end a whole 8 episodes early(Fun fact, Coco was teased as a character to appear in later shorts of season 3, with there even being a preview of a Coco transition). As for the highlights I recall outside of the skits you mentioned(S3 is most fresh in my mind, so I recall those skits off the top of my head more easily), I rather like the Red button sketch, the Blake and Zwei sketches, all of S3 E8, and I found the RWBY Dreams skit a good one to end on.
That is fair. I would have liked to see Coco and more of the show. Are there any chances of a Season 4? Those are all very good sketches as well. I dig them.

Qrow would add tragically little despite his popularity(Which may be why Penny is gone as well), which is never a nice thing to admit, both from a fan and creator perspective. And when it comes to Ragna, it's kinda interesting how you connect him to so many parts of Ruby(Both clad in Red scythe wielders, with Ragna being the rough older brother to Ruby's kind little sister, Yang(Selfless older siblings with hidden depths, have eyes that turn red and had their right arms cut off by someone voiced by Yuuichi Nakamura) and Qrow(Similar weapons).
Yeah, I saw a debate on the subreddit where people discussed Penny's moveset potential and most seemed to think the issue is that BB has so many variations on a robot moveset that Penny having a unique one would be a pain. I do find her absence weirder then Qrow's still though, just because the potential robot fanservice is too great to ignore. And yeah, I can see why the BB devs were all RWBY fans haha. They seem to enjoy similar things.

I guess the one problem with this is that we have not seen her in the "Akechi is about to blow you brains out" scene, but there could be a number of factors in play that could have her not be there. Plus, we have never actually seen the in-game interrogation with Sae as of yet. I think I brought up before that I had a theory I had little belief in where the interrogation was drastically different or even gone so they could do things with Sae's confidant, but now I am starting to think I wasn't too off about it being different in some way. As for the Kasumi joining your side thing, have the trailers made it seem a big deal in the new palace? The scene with the most drama on her helping you is the scene where she joins Joker to fight shadows, but that is in the Casino.
Oh, I didn't realize her helping you was in the Casino. Oops. Yeah, then that makes sense. Given how they are completely redoing Akechi's link, I could see them also redoing Sae's link. It was "hinted" at in the anime anyway...

That could certainly work, especially if this whole wish granting thing is to originally just please the Phantom Thieves(We have not seen anyone else have their wishes granted).
Also, I would just like to point out this theory is just the P5 equivalent to Tales from the Borderlands.[/QUOTE]

I feel like it'd be kind of an easy twist, but it's not like P5 hasn't gone for the obvious route before (AKECHI IS THE TRAITOR? SHOCKING!). I am not familiar with anything Borderlands though.

I feel like wishes may be at play here.
It would be funny in a simple way if Joker's wish being granted just got him out of jail.
 

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Good guesses. I imagine Blake may have some comments for Teddie especially - call them Beauty and the Beast in Heat (side-note: it would have been uneeded work, but every duo having a name would be cute). Heart will probably be spreading the power of positivity and love both to the other happy characters and to the contrasting sad ones.
Yeah, I can see a Teddie and Blake interaction happening(Along with maybe Weiss and Yang). Team names are always great, but tragically unnecessary for this game. There are plenty of fan-made spreadsheets of team names though.
They're usually the final ones before the DLC costumes and are treated with some degree of reverence. The DLC ones tend to be the standard "LET'S MAKE YOU ALL GOLD" kind of outfits. CTB breaking the mold would make sense though.
Okay, good to know.
Definitely. It'd be fun to see some minds get blown, especially if Sakurai does another Hero-style trailer where all of the minor details are discussed to death. He may even... say Ruby's name! Dun dun dun!
I doubt that being the case sadly enough, as he only really addressed the main Hero alts and not the color variations and the references they had.
True indeed. The potential is there. I did also see some "We All Scream for Ice Cream!" comments on the EVO hall reacting to the trailer. In spite of it being leaked, Neo blew minds (including my own).
Glad people could still go in blind. A shame that it was leaked at all, as it was an ArkSys upload error.
That is fair. I would have liked to see Coco and more of the show. Are there any chances of a Season 4? Those are all very good sketches as well. I dig them.
We have little info about any Season 4. It seems most of the staff are focusing all their effort on making the main show, so I guess Chibi will be put on the back-burner for now. I doubt it will be gone forever, but it will be awhile before we see it again.
Yeah, I saw a debate on the subreddit where people discussed Penny's moveset potential and most seemed to think the issue is that BB has so many variations on a robot moveset that Penny having a unique one would be a pain. I do find her absence weirder then Qrow's still though, just because the potential robot fanservice is too great to ignore. And yeah, I can see why the BB devs were all RWBY fans haha. They seem to enjoy similar things.
I also find her absence more odd than Qrow, not only for the fanservice of her being a robot, but also the fanservice of bringing her back. I imagine something Penny related will make it's way into the show again, but the Penny we knew is very dead. Monty was quite the BlazBlue fan actually, so it certainly had an influence on the show, with Penny being the most notable example.

Oh, I didn't realize her helping you was in the Casino. Oops. Yeah, then that makes sense. Given how they are completely redoing Akechi's link, I could see them also redoing Sae's link. It was "hinted" at in the anime anyway...
If Kasumi is interacting with this interrogation, then that could cause a change in Sae's social link. And yeah, Sae's "totally platonic invitation" was quite the eyebrow raiser. The fact that Atlus was being a bit more subtle about the whole thing does make me wonder if it is a hint towards something.

My one big current worry with this theory is how Kasumi will be handled if she is captured. I know this investigation isn't following proper procedure, but would they really have a double interrogation? You don't typically interrogate criminals together, right?
I feel like it'd be kind of an easy twist, but it's not like P5 hasn't gone for the obvious route before (AKECHI IS THE TRAITOR? SHOCKING!). I am not familiar with anything Borderlands though.
Atlus seems to be a fan of "obvious twist covering up a bigger twist" in this game, so they may do that again. As for the borderlands game I mentioned, it was a Telltale game made for the series. Is generally well regarded, and the major events of the game that always happen is actually canon to the series as a whole(Certain character death's, major plot events and even characters introduced in the game coming back for Borderlands 3 as major NPC's). But to get an idea of what I am getting at, I will link this video(Specifically look at the intro before the flashback and what happens around the 49 minute mark. I imagine there will be much less anger back and forth in the case of Kasumi and Joker though. Also don't see them doing the switching perspective thing either, but it would be a cool way to get an in-depth look of Kasumi's perspective on things. Otherwise it would just be an interrogation of Joker with an audience). There are some Borderlands 2 spoilers in the video.
 
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Yeah, I can see a Teddie and Blake interaction happening(Along with maybe Weiss and Yang). Team names are always great, but tragically unnecessary for this game. There are plenty of fan-made spreadsheets of team names though.
I feel like Teddie could realistically flirt with every female character in the game... The question is who would have the best sarcastic clapbacks! Weiss and Yang definitely would have good potential.

I doubt that being the case sadly enough, as he only really addressed the main Hero alts and not the color variations and the references they had.
Maybe they would care more if every alt is a colour reference instead of half of them being complete model changes? That said, given the reception to the Hero trailer, idk if they'll stick with that format.

Glad people could still go in blind. A shame that it was leaked at all, as it was an ArkSys upload error.
Yeah, that was unfortunate. I'm glad I was able to see it live though, as the Neo reveal especially was fantastic. Also a good throwback to how Ruby was first revealed!

We have little info about any Season 4. It seems most of the staff are focusing all their effort on making the main show, so I guess Chibi will be put on the back-burner for now. I doubt it will be gone forever, but it will be awhile before we see it again.
That makes sense, unfortunately. Hopefully it comes back sooner rather then later.

I also find her absence more odd than Qrow, not only for the fanservice of her being a robot, but also the fanservice of bringing her back. I imagine something Penny related will make it's way into the show again, but the Penny we knew is very dead. Monty was quite the BlazBlue fan actually, so it certainly had an influence on the show, with Penny being the most notable example.
Yeah, that is true. That's part of the benefits of Pyrrha potentially being DLC, so it's odd Penny isn't there. There was a lot going for her, so they must really have had moveset challenges if they opted to exclude her.

And ahhhh, that makes sense for sure. She definitely does have a BB feel to her.

If Kasumi is interacting with this interrogation, then that could cause a change in Sae's social link. And yeah, Sae's "totally platonic invitation" was quite the eyebrow raiser. The fact that Atlus was being a bit more subtle about the whole thing does make me wonder if it is a hint towards something.
Yeah, definitely. I don't know if the anime would directly hint to the games like that, but, like, it's definitely suspect?

My one big current worry with this theory is how Kasumi will be handled if she is captured. I know this investigation isn't following proper procedure, but would they really have a double interrogation? You don't typically interrogate criminals together, right?
I mean, I think injecting someone with questionably-legal "truth serum" and beating them up is worse then double interrogation. It would defy the norms for sure, but also Sae knows Joker to some extent. She may think "Oh, great, it's the person who says nothing expect for the very occasional quip. Maybe having the would-be Olympian here wouldn't hurt."

Atlus seems to be a fan of "obvious twist covering up a bigger twist" in this game, so they may do that again. As for the borderlands game I mentioned, it was a Telltale game made for the series. Is generally well regarded, and the major events of the game that always happen is actually canon to the series as a whole(Certain character death's, major plot events and even characters introduced in the game coming back for Borderlands 3 as major NPC's). But to get an idea of what I am getting at, I will link this video(Specifically look at the intro before the flashback and what happens around the 49 minute mark. I imagine there will be much less anger back and forth in the case of Kasumi and Joker though. Also don't see them doing the switching perspective thing either, but it would be a cool way to get an in-depth look of Kasumi's perspective on things. Otherwise it would just be an interrogation of Joker with an audience).
Interesting example. I like the idea, though definitely wouldn't expect a full PoV of Kasumi playable during the original story, especially if she lacks Persona powers... It'd be neat to see her takes on things.

And, yeah, ATLUS does enjoy doing that, but they've done it already once within the same game? Idk. It also seems likely Kasumi awakens to her persona after wishes are being granted, so I really don't know if she would have the power to grant wishes. No idea who would though.
 

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I feel like Teddie could realistically flirt with every female character in the game... The question is who would have the best sarcastic clapbacks! Weiss and Yang definitely would have good potential.
I would say the ladies that could have a good response towards Teddie are Rachel, Nu-13(Albeit in a more murderous way), Nine, any girl from Persona(That are not robots), Linne, Yuzuriha, and every RWBY character besides Ruby herself(Yes, I believe Neo would find a way to have a comeback).
Maybe they would care more if every alt is a colour reference instead of half of them being complete model changes? That said, given the reception to the Hero trailer, idk if they'll stick with that format.
I guess that makes sense. The Hero trailer seems to be one time thing because of DQ's status as such a major Japanese icon.
Yeah, that is true. That's part of the benefits of Pyrrha potentially being DLC, so it's odd Penny isn't there. There was a lot going for her, so they must really have had moveset challenges if they opted to exclude her.

And ahhhh, that makes sense for sure. She definitely does have a BB feel to her.
I expect some people to cry if and when Pyrrha is revealed(Trust me, that wound can easily be opened at anytime. The latest soundtrack proved that). That is how much I feel her inclusion would matter. So yeah, I imagine there was some major moveset challenges for Penny.

Shame Monty didn't live to see his project join something that inspired it so greatly.

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Yeah, definitely. I don't know if the anime would directly hint to the games like that, but, like, it's definitely suspect?
The fact that they were so big on hiding and building it up also has me wondering if there will be something more in P5R. Kinda is magnified by the fact that the episode is so different from the regular P5 episodes in how it was handled.
I mean, I think injecting someone with questionably-legal "truth serum" and beating them up is worse then double interrogation. It would defy the norms for sure, but also Sae knows Joker to some extent. She may think "Oh, great, it's the person who says nothing expect for the very occasional quip. Maybe having the would-be Olympian here wouldn't hurt."
Fair. I guess the one thing left is the fact that Kasumi is missing from the scene where Akechi enters the fray, but like I mentioned before, there could be a number of factors that play into her being missing.
Interesting example. I like the idea, though definitely wouldn't expect a full PoV of Kasumi playable during the original story, especially if she lacks Persona powers... It'd be neat to see her takes on things.

And, yeah, ATLUS does enjoy doing that, but they've done it already once within the same game? Idk. It also seems likely Kasumi awakens to her persona after wishes are being granted, so I really don't know if she would have the power to grant wishes. No idea who would though.
Yeah, I am not expecting us to have control over her during such scenes. Though, this whole concept could be an interesting hint towards the whole "Kasumi taking Joker's place after he pulls a messiah move" thing. It would certainly make her taking Joker's place feel more natural(At least to the player), as we have spent so much of the game with her in the interrogation room. And something I just noticed, this Kasumi line from the new trailer pairs quite well with something that, at least to me, sounds like her reaction to Joker's sacrifice in the second trailer. The fact that we also hear the other Phantom Thieves have reactions that could also be interpreted as a reaction to this hypothetical event right before this scene makes it even more probable.
Kasumi rescuing Joker: "My old, weak self relied on you so much... But that ends today."
Kasumi's despairing reaction: "I kept running away and I kept relying on you, but deep down I always knew I can't stay this way."

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I would say the ladies that could have a good response towards Teddie are Rachel, Nu-13(Albeit in a more murderous way), Nine, any girl from Persona(That are not robots), Linne, Yuzuriha, and every RWBY character besides Ruby herself(Yes, I believe Neo would find a way to have a comeback).
Good choices. Rachel seems very obligatory for sure. I could see Nu-13 doing a more direct threat too. I imagine he'll interact with Yukiko and Chie at least, though I don't know if they'll bother for him to flirt with anyone else from Persona (even Naoto feels less obligatory to me). Linne could have an especially good sarcastic response, definitely. I don't know how Neo would do it, but I admire the bold choice!

I guess that makes sense. The Hero trailer seems to be one time thing because of DQ's status as such a major Japanese icon.
True. Also, idk, maybe it's my bias towards the character, but the Joker one just felt more engaging to me? Maybe I'm just weak to flashy editing.

I expect some people to cry if and when Pyrrha is revealed(Trust me, that wound can easily be opened at anytime. The latest soundtrack proved that). That is how much I feel her inclusion would matter. So yeah, I imagine there was some major moveset challenges for Penny.
Yeah, definitely. I did notice how RWBY Chibi treated her return from death very differently then everyone else's as well. People will have break-downs - and, yes, I'm confident enough to say "will."

If there is any character from the already-included franchises not in the voice leak who I think would have a chance coming with a 3.0, then I would bet on Penny. I don't know if we'll ever get to that point though.

Shame Monty didn't live to see his project join something that inspired it so greatly.
There are many shames about Mony's death... It is tragic, really.

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Oh. Okay. I am very confused about when these occur - I thought they were on the second Friday?

The fact that they were so big on hiding and building it up also has me wondering if there will be something more in P5R. Kinda is magnified by the fact that the episode is so different from the regular P5 episodes in how it was handled.
Yeah, that does make sense... I wonder if that means they'll make Ryuji a romance option too? That feels less likely somehow though, in spite of being less work.

Fair. I guess the one thing left is the fact that Kasumi is missing from the scene where Akechi enters the fray, but like I mentioned before, there could be a number of factors that play into her being missing.
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a huge problem to me. Akechi could just ask for alone time haha.

Yeah, I am not expecting us to have control over her during such scenes. Though, this whole concept could be an interesting hint towards the whole "Kasumi taking Joker's place after he pulls a messiah move" thing. It would certainly make her taking Joker's place feel more natural(At least to the player), as we have spent so much of the game with her in the interrogation room. And something I just noticed, this Kasumi line from the new trailer pairs quite well with something that, at least to me, sounds like her reaction to Joker's sacrifice in the second trailer. The fact that we also hear the other Phantom Thieves have reactions that could also be interpreted as a reaction to this hypothetical event right before this scene makes it even more probable.
Kasumi rescuing Joker: "My old, weak self relied on you so much... But that ends today."
Kasumi's despairing reaction: "I kept running away and I kept relying on you, but deep down I always knew I can't stay this way."
It certainly would be a kickass way to introduce her and very effective at making her familar to the player. And uh. Wow. If Joker doesn't go MIA for at least a death fake-out, then what else could be going on?
 

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Good choices. Rachel seems very obligatory for sure. I could see Nu-13 doing a more direct threat too. I imagine he'll interact with Yukiko and Chie at least, though I don't know if they'll bother for him to flirt with anyone else from Persona (even Naoto feels less obligatory to me). Linne could have an especially good sarcastic response, definitely. I don't know how Neo would do it, but I admire the bold choice!
Yeah, I guess his relationship's with the other Persona 4 characters are beyond such things, though I think Mitsuru could be a possibility.
True. Also, idk, maybe it's my bias towards the character, but the Joker one just felt more engaging to me? Maybe I'm just weak to flashy editing.
It's due to editing, I'm sure. Plus, they had that Phantom Thief bit at the beginning, which was quite cool to see.
Yeah, definitely. I did notice how RWBY Chibi treated her return from death very differently then everyone else's as well. People will have break-downs - and, yes, I'm confident enough to say "will."

If there is any character from the already-included franchises not in the voice leak who I think would have a chance coming with a 3.0, then I would bet on Penny. I don't know if we'll ever get to that point though.
RWBY Chibi and the episode that had Pyrrha return was just a few months after the of volume 3, so they were very clearly twisting a then very open wound. In comparison, Roman's death wasn't really too focused on(Besides him wanting revenge because of it) and Penny just came in as if nothing bad had ever happened. I imagine focused less on their death's because, by then, it was already a good amount of time since and Pyrrha already did the bit. Then again, Rooster Teeth caused people to cry though a Volume 6 song about Pyrrah's death, so I imagine time does very little to help with any beloved characters death.

I doubt we will ever get to that point as well, but I hope it's possible.
There are many shames about Mony's death... It is tragic, really.
I do wonder how things would be if he had never met such unfortunate circumstances(Death by allergic reaction from a medical procedure seems so preventable). I imagine the fanbase would be in a slightly better place at least.
Oh. Okay. I am very confused about when these occur - I thought they were on the second Friday?
I thought it was on the third Friday. Turns out it's on the 4th.

Yeah, that does make sense... I wonder if that means they'll make Ryuji a romance option too? That feels less likely somehow though, in spite of being less work.
I think it's because Ryuji's bit in the episode was less involved. We weren't seeing things from Joker's perspective like the rest, and even the bit where they may have kissed was in shadow. It feels like a major bone toss in comparison to Sae.
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a huge problem to me. Akechi could just ask for alone time haha.
Perhaps Akechi will play a factor in it, as we know all 3 of them do have some sort of connection. Perhaps Kasumi has some interactions with Akechi that she could inform Joker and Sae.
It certainly would be a kickass way to introduce her and very effective at making her familar to the player. And uh. Wow. If Joker doesn't go MIA for at least a death fake-out, then what else could be going on?
It's kinda like what they did with Sae. The impact of the Casino being her palace wouldn't be nearly as big if it were not for the fact that we have spent so much of the game with her. As for the Joker MIA thing, we stinking have Ryuji outright raging at someone disappearing without telling anyone and Haru(I think that is her Japanese VA) giving a classic "This is a cruel joker" reaction. If Joker doesn't peace out at some point in this game, I will be shocked.
 
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Yeah, I guess his relationship's with the other Persona 4 characters are beyond such things, though I think Mitsuru could be a possibility.
Fair! She is possible, though IDK if she's compulsory.

It's die to editing, I'm sure. Plus, they had that Phantom Thief bit at the beginning, which was quite cool to see.
Yeah, the voices of the Thieves were a nice touch. It is kind of funny they brought the whole cast in just to record the trailers and new versions of lines they already said in P5 itself though...

RWBY Chibi and the episode that had Pyrrha return was just a few months after the of volume 3, so they were very clearly twisting a then very open wound. In comparison, Roman's death wasn't really too focused on(Besides him wanting revenge because of it) and Penny just came in as if nothing bad had ever happened. I imagine focused less on their death's because, by then, it was already a good amount of time since and Pyrrha already did the bit. Then again, Rooster Teeth caused people to cry though a Volume 6 song about Pyrrah's death, so I imagine time does very little to help with any beloved characters death.
Ahhhhhhh, that definitely makes sense. It is an easy wound to reopen, but one worth doing for BBTAG! Her moveset would also be super fun to see in a 2d fighter too...

I doubt we will ever get to that point as well, but I hope it's possible.
Yeah, same... I guess it depends on how effectively the 2.0 update and (assumed) second wave of DLC keeps the community alive and keeps sales up. BBTAG is getting a lot more competition in the anime fighter category, mostly coming from other ArcSys games, but still a force to be reckoned with.

I do wonder how things would be if he had never met such unfortunate circumstances(Death by allergic reaction from a medical procedure seems so preventable). I imagine the fanbase would be in a slightly better place at least.
It's tragic, though I am not the type to mediate on the what could have been, especially in situations like this. It just makes me sad.

I thought it was on the third Friday. Turns out it's on the 4th.
Well, you're not alone, as I definitely heard and saw reports it was on the third Friday from other people too. So, unless you secretly are everyone I speak to BBTAG about, then it was a common misconception.

I think it's because Ryuji's bit in the episode was less involved. We weren't seeing things from Joker's perspective like the rest, and even the bit where they may have kissed was in shadow. It feels like a major bone toss in comparison to Sae.
True. Sae didn't even have a kiss though. Both were kind of weirdly out-of-place in their own ways, but Sae's feels a lot more like a direct tease for sure.

Also, like, people probably would want to date Akechi over Ryuji if they're adding male-male romantic relationships.

Perhaps Akechi will play a factor in it, as we know all 3 of them do have some sort of connection. Perhaps Kasumi has some interactions with Akechi that she could inform Joker and Sae.
Ooooo. That'd be a tense dynamic. I like it.

It's kinda like what they did with Sae. The impact of the Casino being her palace wouldn't be nearly as big if it were not for the fact that we have spent so much of the game with her. As for the Joker MIA thing, we stinking have Ryuji outright raging at someone disappearing without telling anyone and Haru(I think that is her Japanese VA) giving a classic "This is a cruel joker" reaction. If Joker doesn't peace out at some point in this game, I will be shocked.
Agreed about the Sae comparison. It's an effective strategy. And uh. Yeah. It's getting not subtle.
 
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