The New Mario Match-Up Index

[HeroMystic]

Guess we Mario figured a way out of his mindgames

The hardest part about Diddy is keeping pressure on him. Other than that the two characters pretty much counter each other.

 

[mars16]

Mystic. Your signiter is funny

 

[Douhneill]

The hardest part about Diddy is keeping pressure on him. Other than that the two characters pretty much counter each other.

Yeah. It's weird. I faced a pretty Good diddy for the first time, and I was like: "The hell? How do I play this matchup?" and he was like: "Quoi? Comment est-ce-qu'on joue contre Mario?"

To say the least, it was the weirdest thing to try out. What do you do against diddy?

 

[HeroMystic]

I don't give Diddy time to set himself up, through any means. If he does get himself set (having one banana at hand, the other either up front or behind him), I stop being on the ground and stay aerial, and start fireballing.

It's also very wise to grab bananas when thrown at you, and learn how to Glide Toss/JCT to set up combos when you do have a banana at hand. It's more important though to keep Diddy's gameplay with bananas to a minimum.

When you do all of this the match-up starts to even out. Sadly Diddy's moveset gives him just enough vs Mario so he doesn't have to completely rely on bananas to win, but Mario's moveset overall is better than his.

 

[vato_break]

i've played probably every good WC diddy, come out with a win and in all honestly i don't feel like diddy kongs are playing the matchup correctly. I feel like this matchup could be more in diddys favor. I think if diddys played with more grabs, air camping, Fowards airs, full hoping/vertical spacing and less naners this matchup could potentially become alot harder for mario.

 

[SKidd]

Diddy's aren't too hard to play against. just chose battlefield and he can't banana no more
And when I grab a banana I just use it for pressure, like, I'd short hop slowly toward him, then I'd throw the naner down and rush him. Throwing it down works for a setup too, eliminating a possible roll.

 

[vato_break]

okay so diddy doesn't take out a bannana, he starts using vertically spaced bairs and well spaced fairs, what do you do then?

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

OOS Up-B, Vato.

 

[vato_break]

he can bait the upB or retreat his fairs and your upB will miss ,then your in a really bad position

 

[mars16]

can UpB 'ing out of jab

 

[HeroMystic]

okay so diddy doesn't take out a bannana, he starts using vertically spaced bairs and well spaced fairs, what do you do then?

Up-tilt, Up-Smash, Up-B, fireball, or the best choice, don't approach.

 

[vato_break]

What will not approaching accomplish? Mario cannot force an approach on diddy unless he has % lead

 

[HeroMystic]

Why would Diddy have to resort to ditching his naners for spacing B-airs and F-airs when his main method of damage is going to deal far more?

Answer: Diddy doesn't have to resort to defensive poking if he isn't losing.

 

[vato_break]

Using Bananas in hand leaves diddy much more vulnerable and somewhate limits his approach,diddy kong can still use bannana for setups and leave them on the ground for baits. if diddy plays more defensive with his aerials he will be more safe and it will be easier to get in

 

[mars16]

Are U saying that he is more vanarable if he uses his Bananas?

Bacause someone can just throw them backj


Ignore I now what you meen now

Continue

 

[JuxtaposeX]

jab >> u-tilt >> unplug diddy's controller >> fsmash

pretty situational, but works

 

[SKidd]

unplug your own controller
MINDGAMES

 

[Calebyte]

unplug your own controller
MINDGAMES

Imagine if someone did that in bracket...and it actually succeeded. o_O

 

[Matador]

jab >> u-tilt >> unplug diddy's controller >> fsmash

pretty situational, but works

unplug your own controller
MINDGAMES

Lmfao, I just got an amazing visual

 

[Flameleon]

-Mario>Diddy...anytime xD-

 

[Calebyte]

I wish I was good at the Diddy matchup. He's my personal worst MU besides MK. I know I must be doing it wrong, but still.

 

[SKidd]

Diddy is gay
use your backup if you suck against him
if you're going all Mario....


switch colors to wario mario color (vato's color) for good luck =)

 

[iMichael]

I think people are putting too much on this MU. I don't think Diddy is hard at all but then again I only play against level 9 cpu's and i think I'm the s*** (joking).

But seriously I think people are making it way harder than what it really is.

 

[SKidd]

Diddy players who know the matchup can make it about 60:40, if both know the matchup it's 50:50, and if Mario knows the mu then it's 60:40. lol...
if neither it's 50:50

 

[vato_break]

Diddy beats mario, someone please explain to me why mario beats diddy or why this would be even. i have alot of experience in both sides of this matchup and i can tell you if diddy does play this match up correctly mario will have a hard time in this match up.

 

[condemned_soul]

OR you could watch kirin play that diddy and learn how to not have a hard time

 

[vato_break]

Most of my youtube videos consist of me fighting diddys with my mario so don't give me that go watch ___ videos. i know how to fight diddy kongs and i probably know the matchup better than any other mario. The problem is that most diddys are useing bananas as an approach and using bananas severely limits their approach because of mario's defense options. They should be using bananas as baits and maybe for PSNL. diddys should focus more on getting grabs and spacing with with SH and FH fairs and bairs.

 

[condemned_soul]

ladies and gentlemen .........Vato_Break

 

[SKidd]

^i lol'd, especially since i tl;dr'd vato's post.

By the way, Caleb, I'd like to work on/do the Snake summary. he's my backup lol...

 

[Flameleon]

-Diddy-Mario MU is even, if Diddy doesn't use nanerz x9-

@Vato: since you're neither a Mario-Diddy pure main, the threat of your Diddy against us is minimal x9-

 

[vato_break]

i think diddy kong beats mario slightly because he can just get the lead and run away. he has very good jumps and its hard for mario to catch diddy especially when mario can't really force an approach unless he has stock lead or something.

 

[condemned_soul]

so would you say that the first person to take a stock off should usually win?

 

[vato_break]

perhaps but, it's alot easier for diddy to bring it back than mario. Mario has no reliable way to kill diddy, he can just gimp diddy well and gimps aren't always reliable. And diddy has a much easier time killing mario

 

[condemned_soul]

i have a video of me vs a diddy if someone can put it on the computer for me

 

[Flameleon]

-Poor Vato, if u were truly a Mario, u would know how good is this MU for Mario, just don't confuse my kidz with those words, because, if u have doubts in your confidence in a MU, u will lose easier-

 

[vato_break]

haha okay, i'm done trying to contribute to these boards.

 

[Matt07]

Why Vato? You post good information, and Flameleon is just playing around with ya.

-Haha, well, i'm always joking with Vato[...]

 

[vato_break]

everyone else is just saying lolno vato your wrong mario does good vs diddy without explaination so ima just troll you guys back!

 

[condemned_soul]

I played his Diddy and he us pretty legit. He knows how to out-range and rack up damage against mario. If I didnt capitalize his mistakes he would have beaten me on SV. Its wifi so i dont know how much credit that gives but it should be something. Good **** Vato.

PS if you ever feel like teaching......shoot me a pm or something

 

[JuxtaposeX]

^i lol'd, especially since i tl;dr'd vato's post.

Reading the first and last sentence usually works.