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The Ness Support Thread
- Thread starter DekuBoy
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DeuceBlade
Smash Champion
Yeah you are correct, only Sakurai would know those type of things.. I almost became like those Ness trolls for a minute. Thanks for bringing me back.
Zubyyyy
Yung Zuby the Falco God
Glad to help. Anyway, I figure theres a slim chance Ness will be back, mainly because of Lucas' lack of Ness' attacks, which could mean Ness was given his own moveset with actions he himself actualy does in his game.Yeah you are correct, only Sakurai would know those type of things.. I almost became like those Ness trolls for a minute. Thanks for bringing me back.
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
While it's looking like Ness has some bad chances, MAN am I pissed.
Why would they cut of what is basically a massive chunk of American audience, and those who are recent to the series? Seriously, it would not have been much more work to keep him in, and some jsut perfer Ness.
I personally perfer Ness' style to Lucas. If they had BOTH in it would have solved all issues really.
Why would they cut of what is basically a massive chunk of American audience, and those who are recent to the series? Seriously, it would not have been much more work to keep him in, and some jsut perfer Ness.
I personally perfer Ness' style to Lucas. If they had BOTH in it would have solved all issues really.
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
a massive chunk? Eh, EarthBound FLOPPED. Ness' game was popular enough in Japan to warrant his inclusion in SSB. Ness was included because of THEM. Had it been up to us and we would've of never had him.
Wu Tang Gang
Smash Ace
Read the Lucas Special Moves update.
I'm pissed at an American game rep replaced by a japan only rep. Ness should of gotten in, even if Sakurai had to make up new moves.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
So I'm guessing the ATs of all the characters deconfirms no one, just b/c Sakurai didn't say it? Hmph, bull****
Zubyyyy
Yung Zuby the Falco God
You know what I mean. Until they are revealed in the game, they can't be taken as deconfirmed.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
The point is, in some people's minds...he might as well be confirmed as not being in the game. It's mostly obvious. It may just be an assumption, but everything in life PERIOD is an assumption.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
And everything points to his deconfirmation
Zubyyyy
Yung Zuby the Falco God
Very true, but I retain hope. Everything points, but doesn't necessarily validate it. Everyone thought the Ice Climbers were going to go too.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
But nothing pointed to their deconfirmation
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
No one really thought the Ice Climbers were leaving except for people that didn't like them in the first place. They spread around some stupid rumor that a French site posted as true
Zubyyyy
Yung Zuby the Falco God
I know, I am just pulling at straws. I am just mad that Ness is just gone, you know? He was my main in 64, and one of my best in Melee, up there with Roy, Falcon, Ice Climbers and Samus.
The thing is Sakurai is not going to that, he's not going to post 'For this update today these are all the characters that will not be in brawl, hardy har ha'. The only way he can let the smash community know if a character is out is through subtle suggestion.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
He was my main in 64 but for Melee, he sucked in my mind.
Zubyyyy
Yung Zuby the Falco God
Or, since Ness has been with Smash since the beginning, Sakurai can give the little fella a shred of dignity left and make him into an Assist Trophy.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
He could, but there's no telling.
super-7
Smash Journeyman
to me ness should stay. He is really popular down in my region.
also because he has been in it since the beginning.
sure lucas has some of his moves though,
but look at mario and luigi they are similar in many ways and in
ssb mario and luigi were excactly alike
im sure ness isnt going anywhere!
also because he has been in it since the beginning.
sure lucas has some of his moves though,
but look at mario and luigi they are similar in many ways and in
ssb mario and luigi were excactly alike
im sure ness isnt going anywhere!
PSIguy89
Smash Ace
this is mostly for the other Ness supporters (cause i kinda needed to brag *alittle*) today at my high school we held a melee tournament, and i ofcourse entered as Ness......and won ^^ (while having to use a defective contoller to boot!)
Ness FTW!!!!!
Ness FTW!!!!!
ThoraxeRMG
Smash Ace
Ness for Brawl indeed. PK Rockin' for his FF
PSIguy89
Smash Ace
random question.....has anybody ever checked to see if when you change the games language to japanese, Ness's trophy says MOTHER 2? i never thought to check, and i noticed there was three songs to the series called MOTHER, MOTHER 2, and Earthbound....which i thought was weird since MOTHER 2 is the same thing
super-7
Smash Journeyman
awesome man, one of my good buddies plays as ness and plays identical to simna.
of course he is no simna but he owns at tournaments we go to on team he usually
saves my *** . but i really hope ness is in!
PSIguy89
Smash Ace
same here man ^^ my hope for Ness shall never die out!!!
and i find it pretty amazing that i am as good as i am and i don't do any advanced techniques (that i know of...lol) i just have super good reflexes ingame
and i find it pretty amazing that i am as good as i am and i don't do any advanced techniques (that i know of...lol) i just have super good reflexes ingame
Piks
Smash Journeyman
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^QFT
Since I know about Ness outside of Smash Bros, it's hard for me to see Lucas replace him.
I think a lot less people would hate him if they knew about him, he's not just some annoying guy who shouts things like "pK THunDAA!!1" all the time.
prettymanfairy
Smash Lord
I don't hate him, and I don't think most people hate him, they've just moved on. I love all Mother Games, and 3 was my fav, so I prefer Lucas.
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
The point is, someone already replaced him and has the same moves. Two characters that have the same moves would be very boring and the MOTHER series is much to unique to have two characters with the same specials.
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Two characters that have the same moves would be very boring....FalcoGanonLuigiRoyYoungLink.
At least Lucas has different A moves than Ness. And of course, there's always the possibility(the one truly bright hope of they who love Ness) that Ness will have his B moves changed to be more true to Earthbound. No PK Fire and Thunder ****.
At least Lucas has different A moves than Ness. And of course, there's always the possibility(the one truly bright hope of they who love Ness) that Ness will have his B moves changed to be more true to Earthbound. No PK Fire and Thunder ****.
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
Yes, they were boring.
I'm not condoning clones in any way. I think it was a mistake of the past they will not do again.
NESS would not be the one changed if they planned on bringing both in. That doesn't even make sense.
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
With the amount of copies sold in America vs. the hit that Mother 2 was in Japan, Ness was essensially a Japan-only character.
Ademisk
Smash Champion
...Okay, I think it DOES make sense. Lesee, they changed Link's B moves. They changed Mario slightly, they haven't announced the rest's moves, but I can only assume they changed them somewhat, just like they did from 64 to Melee. It would make COMPLETE sense for Ness's moves to be changed since they don't make sense for him in the context of Earthbound.
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
Lucas' moves don't make sense either. Link's moves got aesthic changes and some tweaks. Mario got *1* new special move. Woop de doo. Lucas' got Ness' specials with some aesthic changes and some tweaks.
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
Not completely, maybe tweeks and nerfs...
NESS IS NOT COMING BACK
and even if he did, he would not have new attacks. LUCAS would have been the person to have different specials
Ademisk
Smash Champion
Or...not. Considering the ones they gave him work within the context of Mother 3. See how that might work?
OysterMeister
Smash Journeyman
I don't have a problem with Ness and Lucas having similar special moves. It's not like the moves are identical.
And clones are awesome. They increase the roster size even after development time has run out, give lesser characters a chance, and help draw of some of the glut from overplayed characters.
And clones are awesome. They increase the roster size even after development time has run out, give lesser characters a chance, and help draw of some of the glut from overplayed characters.
vesperview
Smash Hero
They also work within the context of Mother 2, the only one that doesn't is the rope snake.
Wu Tang Gang
Smash Ace
Actually, not having clones give each respective character a unique playing aspect. Clones aren't as good as they seem when Gannondorf DOESN'T GET HIS SWORD.
Ademisk
Smash Champion
No, the point is, Lucas...in his game, HAS those attacks. Ness, in his game, doesn't have PK Fire OR PK Thunder. So if they put him in, I'm hoping they give him attacks that would be more suited to Earthbound Ness.
DarkVision
Smash Journeyman
You have never played Mother 3 have you? Lucas has NONE of those attacks. Neither does Ness (Except Psi Magnet)