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The Marth Support Thread - Fire Emblem's First Lord is Confirmed!

Superninjabreadman

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I'll not only eat Marth's Tiara, but I'll punch Sakurai too! There's no way he can't be in brawl!
He must be in, or the Fire Emblem roster wouldn't be logical, right?

I just hope they keep sort of his SSBM design, but not making him very realistic like FE11... I don't like that design.
 

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I think that the best look for him would be a combination of the old Marth from the anime series and the new one, with the sleekness of the smash bros version
Yeah. Anerexic Marth = FTL. but they have to stay true to the series, so if they didnt make his hair the same shineyness as Fountain of Dreams, and made it a little spikier. I'd be happy.

kk. so recap.

If they Made his Frame a little smaller, and his hair a little more like the DS game, I'd be happy, we cant have Marth having the same frame proportions as link. its not right.
 

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Yeah. Anerexic Marth = FTL. but they have to stay true to the series, so if they didnt make his hair the same shineyness as Fountain of Dreams, and made it a little spikier. I'd be happy.

kk. so recap.

If they Made his Frame a little smaller, and his hair a little more like the DS game, I'd be happy, we cant have Marth having the same frame proportions as link. its not right.
True that, but I think also, his build in the DS game doesn't really suit the character of Marth (considering he's supposed to be a graceful swordsman) to me the DS version looks too built to me... either that or it's just because the DS can only do blocky games... (I don't have a DS yet forgive me if that's a poor interpretation)
 

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i think they should make an alt costume for ds and his normal costume would be his melee look
 

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Marth's costume in the DS looks snappy compared to that on the Super Famicon version. I like it. He looks built, but thats because of the wardrobe. Its proper, because from what I see, it still looks lithe. Marth is still going to play like a elegant, smooth striker. YEAH!! His clothes are light, with just shoulder armor.

His proportions should be different from Link, but I think his height is right so I don't know what to think about this really. Just get a graphic design, an added special move, and we'll call you back for Brawl :)
 

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Haha. I knew he was a dude right off the bat. He just happens to be Androgynous, just like the popular fashion trend in Japan. Have you seen the dudes there? Jeez. They embraced masulinity by being in more touch with their feminine side lmao. I don't approve, but hey, what can you do?
 

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True that, but I think also, his build in the DS game doesn't really suit the character of Marth (considering he's supposed to be a graceful swordsman) to me the DS version looks too built to me... either that or it's just because the DS can only do blocky games... (I don't have a DS yet forgive me if that's a poor interpretation)
It's not as powerful as a GC, so that's part of it, the graphics are blocky.

Still, a graceful swordsman is suited to being built to a degree, and he doesn't look overly so in my humble opinion.
 

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The only thing about that is, if they turned Marth into a power character then he'd be too much like Ike... (I meant in the context of if he didn't look sleek and lithe) which is another reason why I don't want him carrying the Fire EMblem (the shield) it's too bulky for his style.
 

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The only thing about that is, if they turned Marth into a power character then he'd be too much like Ike... (I meant in the context of if he didn't look sleek and lithe) which is another reason why I don't want him carrying the Fire EMblem (the shield) it's too bulky for his style.
i agree marth is more of a fast character than a slow and powerful one

btw my cousins thought marth was a girl and they were like 13 lol
 

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You dont have to be anerexic to be gracefull or quick, just look at C. Falcon.

I Think marth's frame could be a little smaller, but not much.

No Sheild either, he's the first real Sword only character. (And the second non clone character to use a sword as a main weapon, If I remember correctly).

Saying as Marth's real first 3d appearance was Melee, It'll be amazing to see how they change him in Brawl. hopefully it wont be just giving him better graphics, like it was for Mario.

A slightly diffrent outfit, hair could change a little, frame needs to change.. make his breastplate lest.... breast...ish... (lol)
 

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Its a little too bulky. it stands out alot.

I said gracefull -or- Fast. But I was making a point that you dont have to be Zelda Skinny to be able to move that fast.
Meh, I never really noticed.


And to me, Marth doesn't look too skinny in his melee form anyway. He just doesn't look, well muscular. It's a pretty common style in japan to make teenage characters or fast/graceful characters to have either very slight or almost no muscular definition. Sessourmaru from Inuyasha, Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, Byakuya from Bleach, Itachi from Naruto, ect. all have almost non-existant muscles. That's because it really isn't the focus anyway, and it really helps to contrast the slower, bulkier characters.
 

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Meh, I never really noticed.


And to me, Marth doesn't look too skinny in his melee form anyway. He just doesn't look, well muscular. It's a pretty common style in japan to make teenage characters have either very slight or almost no muscular definition, especially amoung "graceful" and fast characters. Sessourmaru from Inuyasha, Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, Byakuya from Bleach, Itachi from Naruto, ect. all have almost non-existant muscles. That's because it really isn't the focus anyway, and it really helps to contrast the slower, bulkier characters.
Kenshin's not a teen he's 28... but also, Sigfriend from Soul Calibur legends, note, LEGENDS (because they refer to him as a boy) is probably somewhere in his teens in that games also and he looks like he took some roids!

but generally yes you're right
 

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Kenshin's not a teen he's 28... but also, Sigfriend from Soul Calibur legends, note, LEGENDS (because they refer to him as a boy) is probably somewhere in his teens in that games also and he looks like he took some roids!

but generally yes you're right
I overlooked that. For that matter Sessoumaru is freakin' ancient, and Itachi is well over 20. I was just listing characters who fit the japanese stereotype of a "fast" character. I'll edit my previous post.
 

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true that... but like I said I agree with you and I think it's best that he keeps his lithe-like stature. besides that, it gives him more of a Prince type feel don't you think? I dunno if it's just me, but when I think of Princes I think of swift and Lithe, where as when I think of... say a king or a knight, I think more like a powerhouse with little speed, but amazing power and defense.
 

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Alright. Ima put my Ideas down.

1.) I want Marth to be a littlebit more Lithe like.. have a smaller frame.
2.) Same moveset. I liked the movset in melee.
3.) Super Sword Dance Final Smash.
4.) I, Personaly would like marth to be a little less prince-ish. he -did- lose his thrown, If I remember correctly
5.) Noooo muskewls. or.. not much.
6.) No sheild.
7.) No Super Shiney hair, needs to be more blue, less light blue.
8.) Diffrent outfit (If only slightly.) I dont want better graphics, but the same outfit, like Mario and Pikachu got.
Thats how I want my Marth.
 

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Alright. Ima put my Ideas down.

1.) I want Marth to be a littlebit more Lithe like.. have a smaller frame.
2.) Same moveset. I liked the movset in melee.
3.) Super Sword Dance Final Smash.
4.) I, Personaly would like marth to be a little less prince-ish. he -did- lose his thrown, If I remember correctly
5.) Noooo muskewls. or.. not much.
6.) No sheild.
7.) No Super Shiney hair, needs to be more blue, less light blue.
8.) Diffrent outfit (If only slightly.) I dont want better graphics, but the same outfit, like Mario and Pikachu got.
Thats how I want my Marth.
i totaly agree with u man but his final smash could be different like the ones we have on the first post
 

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Having your kingdom conquered only just after your father was killed isn't exactly what I'd call de-throned...
Well. I didnt memorize Marth's history, but I know enough to know that he wasnt the guy in charge (of the kingdom) for alot of his game, (1st game). so he shouldnt exactly be wearing prince clothes, it should be a -little- messier than in Melee, a bit more like Ikes, maybe. just a little.

i totaly agree with u man but his final smash could be different like the ones we have on the first post

I prefer a super charged sword dance. just because there are other options dosnt mean I'll pick them. I came up with the Sword Dance Finsmash anyway.
 

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Well. I didnt memorize Marth's history, but I know enough to know that he wasnt the guy in charge (of the kingdom) for alot of his game, (1st game). so he shouldnt exactly be wearing prince clothes, it should be a -little- messier than in Melee, a bit more like Ikes, maybe. just a little.
True, he wasn't actually in charge of his kingdom, but neither was Elincia in FE9, or Pelleas in FE10. He was still the prince and rightfull heir to the throne once he reclaimed Aritia. He is still a sophisticated noble, so having a messy outfit like Ike, who's a common mercenary, would be out of his character. Ike was supposed to be the dynamic contrast to the way we view FE lords (he's just a commoner for one) so having a messy outfit is just another thing that sets him apart. Some of that contrast would be lost if we were to bring Marth's atire down from his current level. Marth is the generic FE stereotype because he's the one that started that stereotype for the FE lords in the first place. Until Ike came along, the idea of a non-royal Lord was unheard of.
 

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True, he wasn't actually in charge of his kingdom, but neither was Elincia in FE9, or Pelleas in FE10. He was still the prince and rightfull heir to the throne once he reclaimed Aritia. He is still a sophisticated noble, so having a messy outfit like Ike, who's a common mercenary, would be out of his character. Ike was supposed to be the dynamic contrast to the way we view FE lords (he's just a commoner for one) so having a messy outfit is just another thing that sets him apart. Some of that contrast would be lost if we were to bring Marth's atire down from his current level. Marth is the generic FE stereotype because he's the one that started that stereotype for the FE lords in the first place. Until Ike came along, the idea of a non-royal Lord was unheard of.
Right, But Marth wasnt exactly sitting on his throne with 3 square meals and whatever else he wants. his outfit shouldent be perfectly clean. Good point about Ike not being a lord though.
 

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I'm luling because I came sorta late. I'm not trying to disrupt anything, but I'd like to say I support Marth, seeing how he's my competetive main.
 

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I'm luling because I came sorta late. I'm not trying to disrupt anything, but I'd like to say I support Marth, seeing how he's my competetive main.
You can have a Competitive main and a Casual main o_O

I've even tried playing roy, the only person im truly good with is Marth,


in 4v4 I usualy play Luigi, Pikachu or Jiggly, I just charge their chargable moves and hit whoever I can while they're busy with the other peeps XD.
 
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