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The Little Witch of Diamond City - Ashley - The Witch retreats. For now.

Cabbagehead

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Researching about Nintendo SPD Group 1 (The developers behind all of the WarioWare and Rhythm Heaven titles), it does feel kind of depressing that their games are barely represented in Smash 4 outside of Wario, a few Assist Trophies and a couple of awesome stages like Game and Wario and WarioWare Inc. I would imagine Group 1 in particular were extremely thrilled about a character from one of their titles finally getting representation (Chorus Kids going by the Gematsu leak) in Smash 4's planning phase, and the Rhythm Heaven representation they get in Smash 4 is minimal. These developers have made some pretty awesome titles over the years like every RH title, Warioware D.I.Y., and WarioWare Twisted. It kind of depresses me to the point where I could see Sakurai making up to the SPD Group 1 team by not only adding Chorus Kids, but also add Ashley as well. It feels like all that SPD1 could do to survive now going forward is push for Ashley via merchandise and advertising in Japan and hoping that their 3DS compilation title (WarioWare Gold) succeeds to push the team to create more inventive games in future Nintendo platforms. SPD Group 1 has so much creative potential, and I would hate to see them die out so soon.

What I say probably will not reflect my final thoughts on promotional characters like Ashley, Dee, and Isabelle, but I thought this bit on SPD would be interesting to mention.
Yeah, the more I delve deeper into which little Nintendo dev teams make what, the more I find myself liking SPD 1 more and more, toiling away in the shadows on all the weird, smaller projects. Those are the games that I tend to enjoy the most.

At least Tomodachi Life has a stage, but perhaps we're on the brink of an SPD character in the form of Ashley. It would just seem strange to see Nintendo push a character so hard as a marketing ploy, only to neglect them in the biggest advertisement Nintendo has ever created.
 
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Dr. Jojo Phantasma

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https://www.mariowiki.com/Ashley_and_Red#Super_Mario_Maker

You can see all from here, but basically, 2016 had Majora Mask parody badges for Nintendo Badge Arcade with Ashley as Link, and 2017 had Crazy Galaxy.

Anyway, we know how the Smash fanbase loves to use arbitrary rules and what not on what makes a character's chances more likely than not, I read a post that a character being playable in their own series should make them more likely to be considered. Well...


That's covered. :p
 
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Hinata

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Has there been notable promotion of Ashley during the periods of 2016-2018?
None that I can think of, besides the examples Phantom Joker mentioned. But really, the fact that she was so heavily promoted during 2015, the time at which Sakurai began planning this game, says a lot for her chances. Even if development didn't officially start until early 2016, she was likely fresh in Sakurai's mind when the idea to make Smash Ultimate first popped into his head.
 

Oracle_Summon

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Has there been notable promotion of Ashley during the periods of 2016-2018?
If you count the continuation of the Badges from the Badge Arcade, being used as a sales rep for games she does not even star in, and the Fake Promotional game Crazy Galaxy.
 

Takasmash

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Book of Ice Cream should be the new Warioware stage but the problem with that is, will Gamer be cut? I hope not Gamer is one of top 10 favorites stage and its a horror stage which we dont have in smash. Yeah uh Book f Ice Cream will be Ashley homestage calling it.
 

Ashuree

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Book of Ice Cream should be the new Warioware stage but the problem with that is, will Gamer be cut? I hope not Gamer is one of top 10 favorites stage and its a horror stage which we dont have in smash. Yeah uh Book f Ice Cream will be Ashley homestage calling it.
I reallly hope they don't cut Gamer it's my second favorite stage. Ahh.
 

Takasmash

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Hope we dont get cuts DLC stages that could potentially happen like smash 4 which I dont want.
 

LittleKrool

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My 3ds broke yesterday, and I lost all my Ashley badges and themes I've gotten over the years. I'm bummed about it, not a single hour has passed where I haven't thought about all those hours and money I put into them.

Even still, I admit I am pretty depressed about it. I miss all those Ashley's, and a system transfer will not work as it will not turn on. But I'm not going to give up, I'll work on getting it fixed, I saved the SD card; if someone can fix it, then there's hope I can see Ashley again. Until then, I will be buying a NEW 2ds XL and spend as much as I have to, to get them back. Every Badge once again, and every theme.

Maybe in a way, I'll help her even more by buying them all over again.
 

SmashMaster02

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Book of Ice Cream should be the new Warioware stage but the problem with that is, will Gamer be cut? I hope not Gamer is one of top 10 favorites stage and its a horror stage which we dont have in smash. Yeah uh Book f Ice Cream will be Ashley homestage calling it.
While Book of Ice Cream sounds like a beat stage choice, Gamer is still pretty good and I'd miss it, but I'd prefer an Ashley's Mansion stage over BoIC tho
 

Ashuree

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My 3ds broke yesterday, and I lost all my Ashley badges and themes I've gotten over the years. I'm bummed about it, not a single hour has passed where I haven't thought about all those hours and money I put into them.

Even still, I admit I am pretty depressed about it. I miss all those Ashley's, and a system transfer will not work as it will not turn on. But I'm not going to give up, I'll work on getting it fixed, I saved the SD card; if someone can fix it, then there's hope I can see Ashley again. Until then, I will be buying a NEW 2ds XL and spend as much as I have to, to get them back. Every Badge once again, and every theme.
Maybe in a way, I'll help her even more by buying them all over again.
Damn that sucks so bad, losing all your thrmes and badges blows, big risks that come with nintendo stuff. Just Imagine It'd make Ashley really happy if you buy her themes again.
Seriously tho that sucks, what broke on it?
 

Oracle_Summon

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While Book of Ice Cream sounds like a beat stage choice, Gamer is still pretty good and I'd miss it, but I'd prefer an Ashley's Mansion stage over BoIC tho
Fighting inside Ashley's study would be awesome with all the mmagical books flying around.
 

Samcrumpit

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Researching about Nintendo SPD Group 1 (The developers behind all of the WarioWare and Rhythm Heaven titles), it does feel kind of depressing that their games are barely represented in Smash 4 outside of Wario, a few Assist Trophies and a couple of awesome stages like Game and Wario and WarioWare Inc. I would imagine Group 1 in particular were extremely thrilled about a character from one of their titles finally getting representation (Chorus Kids going by the Gematsu leak) in Smash 4's planning phase, and the Rhythm Heaven representation they get in Smash 4 is minimal. These developers have made some pretty awesome titles over the years like every RH title, Warioware D.I.Y., and WarioWare Twisted. It kind of depresses me to the point where I could see Sakurai making up to the SPD Group 1 team by not only adding Chorus Kids, but also add Ashley as well. It feels like all that SPD1 could do to survive now going forward is push for Ashley via merchandise and advertising in Japan and hoping that their 3DS compilation title (WarioWare Gold) succeeds to push the team to create more inventive games in future Nintendo platforms. SPD Group 1 has so much creative potential, and I would hate to see them die out so soon.

What I say probably will not reflect my final thoughts on promotional characters like Ashley, Dee, and Isabelle, but I thought this bit on SPD would be interesting to mention.
That definitely makes me want to see one of their character get in even more. Warioware has been on every Nintendo system since the GBA showcasing the hardware for better or worse (seriously they even made one based off the DSi's camera), and they don't have a single character to show for it. It's pretty interesting and I'm glad you brought it up.

It's good that you don't let that bit of pathos affect you. This neutral vibe you give off makes me all the more excited to hear your thoughts on Ashley's chances.

Book of Ice Cream should be the new Warioware stage but the problem with that is, will Gamer be cut? I hope not Gamer is one of top 10 favorites stage and its a horror stage which we dont have in smash. Yeah uh Book f Ice Cream will be Ashley homestage calling it.
That sounds cool, maybe they could turn Ashley's Library into a stage and it would teleport the characters through the different books (lollipops, chocolate, ice cream, that one scary world that Ashley wanted to go to). It would work kinda like Pokémon Stadium.
 

Samcrumpit

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Tank girl Ashley is something i didn't know I needed. I love how many outfits and cameos she's getting!
They look so cool/cute! Perfect for alternate costumes. Makes you wonder though, who in charge is pushing Ashley? Ko Takeuchi (her designer) had a hand in the badge arcade stuff, but all these other cameos remain a mystery. I wish their was a better way to visulize her popularity because that "13th in the japanese smash ballot" figure doesn't look that flattering.
 
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Ashuree

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They look so cool too! Perfect for alternate costumes. Makes you wonder though, who in charge is pushing Ashley? Ko Takeuchi (her designer) had a hand in the badge arcade stuff, but all these other cameos remain a mystery. I wish their was a better way to visulize her popularity because that "13th in the japanese smash ballot" figure doesn't look that flattering.
That was a poll asking people who they voted for on one website, not the actual ballot from Japan. The actual ballot results were never made public.
 
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OdnetninAges

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I had a dream like that with K. Rool during Smash 4 speculation. Our brains are trolls.
I had a dream like that with Goku during Smash 4 speculation.

I was so scared. (Miffed, too.)
 
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After minutes of thinking, I’ve warmed up to the idea of a playable Ashley.

+1 supporter!
 

Samcrumpit

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That was a poll asking people who they voted for on one website, not the actual ballot from Japan. The actual ballot results were never made public.
I know but it's the only stat we have regarding Ashley's performance in the ballot among japanese fans. I suppose it's notable to mention that she is the most popular assist trophy in that poll.
 
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SiddShidds

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There's no way they're going to make the most popular assist trophy reprise her role! Give me Ashley or give me death!
 

Ashuree

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There's no way they're going to make the most popular assist trophy reprise her role! Give me Ashley or give me death!
Yesterday I was playing Smash Wii U and the first assist trophy I got was Ashley on Luigis mansion stage. It made me very happy. Now for her to break free and take over the mansion.
 

SiddShidds

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Yesterday I was playing Smash Wii U and the first assist trophy I got was Ashley on Luigis mansion stage. It made me very happy. Now for her to break free and take over the mansion.
You have been graced by the appearance of Ashley herself!
 

Ashuree

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Yeah she definitely does, Also take this with a huge grain of Salt but someone I follow on Twitter Claims Information about WarioWare will Drop sometime next week. Doesn't mean much but here is hoping.
 

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My first assist on the Wii u was Ashley, I never played with items prior, so when I finally played adventure mode the first ever assist I got was Ashley, also my first Mario Maker outfit was Ashley as well.

And then a week or two ago, I finally decided to play online For Fun mode, I saw an assist and it was Ashley. I didn't even try to punish the people caught in the cloud, I just stood next to Ashley taunting away. I have this bad experience on for Fun as well, I got Ashley to assist, she landed on a platform which hovered upward off the screen, then a few moments later she came falling down, then off the stage. I screamed, "NOOOO ASHLEY, NOOOO!"
 

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Yeah she definitely does, Also take this with a huge grain of Salt but someone I follow on Twitter Claims Information about WarioWare will Drop sometime next week. Doesn't mean much but here is hoping.
Is this person credible? Have they ever leaked something before?
 

Ashuree

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Hmm is this person a leaker or something? Either way, I am hoping.
Is this person credible? Have they ever leaked something before?
No Idea, I just followed them cause they like warioware and 3ds games, he recently just Claimed that the game was gold and that we'd find out more soon.
Like I said, take it with a HUUUGE grain of Salt, he also claimed we'd be getting more info on Luigi's mansion for 3ds soon. But could be someone just bsing On twitter.

https://twitter.com/Newmarkomaro/status/1013002767709896704
 
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SiddShidds

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No Idea, I just followed them cause they like warioware and 3ds games, he recently just Claimed that the game was gold and that we'd find out more soon.
Like I said, take it with a HUUUGE grain of Salt, he also claimed we'd be getting more info on Luigi's mansion for 3ds soon. But could be someone just bsing On twitter.

https://twitter.com/Newmarkomaro/status/1013002767709896704
The guy says there will be voice acting for WW Gold?!!! We must find Ashley's voice actor! I bet she's voicing Ashley in Smash too!
 

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Some guy who "reviews" leaks on twitter reviewed the Warioware Gold one a while back. He's under the impression that it's real. So That could mean that development starting in 2015 could very well be true. Now it's just a matter of Link's Awakening getting announced and Wario Land VB

https://twitter.com/LeakReview/status/985331127647744000
Wait.... the guy who leaked details on WarioWare Gold is the same person that talked about Link's Awakening and Wario Land 3DS?
 

Ashuree

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The guy says there will be voice acting for WW Gold?!!! We must find Ashley's voice actor! I bet she's voicing Ashley in Smash too!
Yeah! I've heard there was suppose to be voice acting for a long time now, I think from the leak Perfect Chaos just posted.

Good point Sidd, whoever voices her lines in WarioWare Gold would More than likely be the same one if shes playable in Smashy.
 

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No Idea, I just followed them cause they like warioware and 3ds games, he recently just Claimed that the game was gold and that we'd find out more soon.
Like I said, take it with a HUUUGE grain of Salt, he also claimed we'd be getting more info on Luigi's mansion for 3ds soon. But could be someone just bsing On twitter.

https://twitter.com/Newmarkomaro/status/1013002767709896704
I'd say this coincides pretty well with the below leak:

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/422675415#q422675415
 

perfectchaos83

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Wait.... the guy who leaked details on WarioWare Gold is the same person that talked about Link's Awakening and Wario Land 3DS?
To my knowledge, that's the earliest mention of Link's Awakening 3DS in leak form. Memoryman did a repost here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997614-nintendo-3ds/76146238

EDIT: Archived 4chan thread: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/401239114/

Another EDIT: Looks like this guy got Monster Hunter's subtitle correct. Generations Ultimate

I'd say this coincides pretty well with the below leak:

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/422675415#q422675415
I guess we'll find out by Tuesday.
 
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