The Legendary Heroes of Galar - Zacian and Zamazenta for Smash

[fogbadge]

well we're some more sword and shield news in the coming days, typing for out legendaries perhaps

 

[Veenon]

well we're some more sword and shield news in the coming days, typing for out legendaries perhaps

Wait, really? Is this because of Gamescom, or is there something else happening soon?

 

[Cosmic77]

Zacian and Zamazenta?

There’s a lot to explore in the region of Galar—and a lot more to learn about the Pokémon we’ve already discovered!

We’ll be sharing some more facts about these new Pokémon over the next few days—stay tuned, Trainers! pic.twitter.com/CCDQ2p2y02

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) August 19, 2019

 

[fogbadge]

Wait, really? Is this because of Gamescom, or is there something else happening soon?

well as you can see cosmic77 has posted the tweet saying so, no idea if it has anything to do with gamescom

Zacian and Zamazenta?

There’s a lot to explore in the region of Galar—and a lot more to learn about the Pokémon we’ve already discovered!

We’ll be sharing some more facts about these new Pokémon over the next few days—stay tuned, Trainers! pic.twitter.com/CCDQ2p2y02

— Pokémon (@Pokemon) August 19, 2019

thank you for that visual aid for my previous post

 

[Pokelego999]

Smash considers them to be one in the same, with how you can get mythicals in the Masterball item. Before you mention Goldeen, that one is a gag Pokémon while Zoroark is there to reference the misconception of it being legendary or mythical in the first place. I know what they all identify as in terms of the Pokémon games - I was just speaking of Smash.

That does not make legendaries and mythicals one in the same. Its like saying because Mario and the legend of Zelda are in assist trophies together makes them the same franchise. We never actually got a reason to zoarark, but that is probably not the reason

 

[Veenon]

That does not make legendaries and mythicals one in the same. Its like saying because Mario and the legend of Zelda are in assist trophies together makes them the same franchise. We never actually got a reason to zoarark, but that is probably not the reason

Um, no it doesn't???

You're being really semantic about this as it is. I came here to bring support to the concept of a fighter and discuss topics surrounding it. I've played each gen, I'm fully aware of the differences between the two, but this is at all acknowledged in Smash. It's highly presumed that was the reason Zoroark could be found in Masterballs, due to the rumours it brought and misconception when its movie released. I'd rather I use this thread to discuss the concept of the fighter the OP proposed, not argue - so could you please not nitpick this?

 

[Noipoi]

chuck me on the list or suffer the consequences

 

[fogbadge]

chuck me on the list or suffer the consequences

what would they be?

 

[Noipoi]

what would they be?

-intense gnoming
-reverse bee therapy
-24 hours of me singing, with no breaks
-Paul

 

[fogbadge]

-intense gnoming
-reverse bee therapy
-24 hours of me singing, with no breaks
-Paul

not even close to weirdest thing ive seen someone type

 

[Noipoi]

not even close to weirdest thing ive seen someone type

I’ll get there

 

[fogbadge]

I’ll get there

i look forward to it

 

[Pokelego999]

What literally just happended

 

[fogbadge]

What literally just happended

they tried to weird me out, i told them it didnt work, they said they get better at it, i said ill look forward to it

 

[Pokelego999]

they tried to weird me out, i told them it didnt work, they said they get better at it, i said ill look forward to it

Ok then.

 

[Deleted member]

Y'know what, why the heck not
sign me up

 

[Altais]

I actually like this idea better than another starter Pokémon. I think both Zacian and Zamazenta have the potential to be unique fighters. Personally, I'm not on the anti-sword user bandwagon--that said, if it turns out Zacian has better moveset potential than Zamazenta, so be it.

I wonder if Zacian and Zamazenta have a Zygarde/Kyurem/Giratina equivalent. If so, I could see that wolf wielding a bow and arrow. If that's the case, I'd want that one in the most, since we don't yet have an archery-based character.

 

[Cosmic77]

I actually like this idea better than another starter Pokémon. I think both Zacian and Zamazenta have the potential to be unique fighters. Personally, I'm not on the anti-sword user bandwagon--that said, if it turns out Zacian has better moveset potential than Zamazenta, so be it.

I wonder if Zacian and Zamazenta have a Zygarde/Kyurem/Giratina equivalent. If so, I could see that wolf wielding a bow and arrow. If that's the case, I'd want that one in the most, since we don't yet have an archery-based character.

If they do get a third variant, I'd love to see this bow-weilding Legendary you were describing. A dog fighting with a sword in its mouth sounds silly enough, but a dog with a bow and arrow? I can't even begin to imagine how that would work, yet I can see it happening all the same.

 

[fogbadge]

If they do get a third variant, I'd love to see this bow-weilding Legendary you were describing. A dog fighting with a sword in its mouth sounds silly enough, but a dog with a bow and arrow? I can't even begin to imagine how that would work, yet I can see it happening all the same.

perhaps it could have a pair of tusks shaped like a bow

 

[Altais]

If they do get a third variant, I'd love to see this bow-weilding Legendary you were describing. A dog fighting with a sword in its mouth sounds silly enough, but a dog with a bow and arrow? I can't even begin to imagine how that would work, yet I can see it happening all the same.

The idea I had was that the bow could rest on its back, and it could draw the arrow with its tail. This way, it can still walk/run around freely whilst aiming.

 

[Cosmic77]

Been keeping up with those daily Pokemon posts on Twitter. So far, we've gotten:

Grookey
Scorbunny
Sobble
Corviknight
Gossifleur
Wooloo
Rolycoly
Alcermie
Duraludon

Aside from the Legendaries, we still need:

Eldegoss
Drednaw
Yamper
Morpeko
All Galarian forms

Could be a coincidence, but I think it's a bit odd how we haven't gotten a post about one of the Legendaries yet. Makes me think we're getting a Pokemon Direct or video at the end of this series of posts.

 

[fogbadge]

Been keeping up with those daily Pokemon posts on Twitter. So far, we've gotten:

Grookey
Scorbunny
Corviknight
Gossifleur
Rolycoly
Alcermie
Duraludon

Aside from the Legendaries, we still need:

Sobble
Eldegoss
Wooloo
Drednaw
Yamper
Morpeko
All Galarian forms

Could be a coincidence, but I think it's a bit odd how we haven't gotten a post about one of the Legendaries yet. Makes me think we're getting a Pokemon Direct or video at the end of this series of posts.

could be could be, i imagine therell be something in september, cant wait to see some more galarian variants, i hope theres some based on pokemon based on animals found in britain

 

[Cosmic77]

We're nearing the end of the list. All that remains is...

Drednaw
Yamper
Morpeko
Galarian Wheezing

I've got a feeling we'll be getting new info very soon.

 

[Delzethin]

Well, guess you were right on the money about it coming soon.

On that note, what type combinations do you guys want Zacian and Zamazenta to have? Might as well ask, since we may finally learn them in the Direct later today.

 

[Cosmic77]

Well, guess you were right on the money about it coming soon.

On that note, what type combinations do you guys want Zacian and Zamazenta to have? Might as well ask, since we may finally learn them in the Direct later today.

Don't really have a preference since both will likely be Steel. Whatever they end up being though, I'd at least like the typing to make sense. Solgaleo being weak to fire and Lunala being weak to dark was weird.

Anyways, my guess is Zacian being Steel/Fighting (or water, but that makes less sense), and Zamazenta being Steel/Fire.

 

[Cosmic77]

It's confirmed! We're getting more fighters past the Fighter Pass!

I don't want to jinx anything, but I feel like a Gen VIII Pokemon is the most likely newcomer now, assuming Nintendo characters are part of the plan. Let's keep supporting Zacian and Zamazenta. With a little luck, we might just see them join Smash.

 

[Pokelego999]

It's confirmed! We're getting more fighters past the Fighter Pass!

I don't want to jinx anything, but I feel like a Gen VIII Pokemon is the most likely newcomer now, assuming Nintendo characters are part of the plan. Let's keep supporting Zacian and Zamazenta. With a little luck, we might just see them join Smash.

Me standing idly by with my two gen 8 support threads

 

[fogbadge]

well if the next lot of fighters started recently then a gen 8 pokemon is a possibilty

 

[Delzethin]

Welp. That's exactly the break the knight wolves needed. With Season 2 confirmed, the chances of anyone from Gen 8 just rose dramatically.

I suppose now we keep tabs on how the starters pan out, since the apparent lack of a Lucario archetype in this gen means they're our biggest rivals here.

 

[fogbadge]

by the by if anyone makes a support thread for our new teapot friend do let me know

 

[Cosmic77]

well if the next lot of fighters started recently then a gen 8 pokemon is a possibilty

This is a huge break for these two. With this new information, the "'They were too late!' argument" is completely null and void.

Welp. That's exactly the break the knight wolves needed. With Season 2 confirmed, the chances of anyone from Gen 8 just rose dramatically.

I suppose now we keep tabs on how the starters pan out, since the apparent lack of a Lucario archetype in this gen means they're our biggest rivals here.

I know. Feeling pretty confident now, though nervous as well.

The starters will definitely be our biggest threat, but since the last two newcomers were starters, I think we've got the advantage here.

 

[LukeRNG]

While it's a shame Lycanroc is done for, a gen 8 pokemon could happen and hopefully we get it this time.

 

[Cosmic77]

Side note, Oddish, Ditto, Bonsly, Baltoy, Cherubi, Pidove, Sigilyph, Litwick, and Togedemaru have been confirmed for SwSh. I believe we're up to 240 Pokemon now.

Also, I wanted to say that I'll be updating the first post soon. I need to change a few things now that we know more characters are coming.

 

[Staarih]

Yup, I’m feeling a Gen 8 Pokemon is very much possible if not even likely now. Definitely hope it’ll be something out of the usual bipedal, starter ones we’ve had so far so Zacian/Zamazents would be very much welcome.

 

[Pokelego999]

by the by if anyone makes a support thread for our new teapot friend do let me know

https://smashboards.com/threads/polteageist-joins-the-battle.488817/
Here yah go

 

[LukeRNG]

What do you think they meant with introducing more game worlds?

 

[fogbadge]

What do you think they meant with introducing more game worlds?

i doubt he actually meant much, feels like one of those statements of his that the fans read to much into

 

[Delzethin]

What do you think they meant with introducing more game worlds?

Turns out not even the original Japanese is clear on what it means.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So far, I think he was just referring to new settings regardless of if the series they're from is brand new or already present.

 

[fogbadge]

Turns out not even the original Japanese is clear on what it means.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So far, I think he was just referring to new settings regardless of if the series they're from is brand new or already present.

just another comment for fans to go nuts with

 

[Cosmic77]

Regardless of what Sakurai meant, let's not worry ourselves over it just yet. We have another shot at DLC, and that's something we can take a breath of relief over.

Ignoring the "game worlds" comment, I think our first line of business is Spirits. The best thing that could possibly happen to us is no new Spirits at all, but if we were to get some, what would it mean? Would that be a deconfirmation? SMM2 and FE:TH didn't get any, so there's a good chance SwSh could be passed over too. Still, it's something we need to be prepared for.