The Last Airbender

[EdreesesPieces]

oh i see


****, it must be terrible. is it up there with dragonball evolution, though?

Yeah but that movie was supposed to be bad. movies that try to be good but fail are much worse

 

[The Greater Leon]

come one joe its been a lifelong dream
to get inside
THE
iCarly

 

[pockyD]

unbreakable was really good

besides that shamalang sucks

you thought the 6th sense sucked?

you suck!

 

[SuperRad]

Yeah but that movie was supposed to be bad.

[Citation Needed]

 

[Lovage]

ya 6th sense was pretty good too

 

[EdreesesPieces]

[Citation Needed]

my citation is anyone over 18's opinion of dragonball. it's cool and all as a good but in all reality watch the anime, it's got no plot, the characters sound like they are constipated while they charge their moves for 3 episodes in a row, and the artwork is really low quality. did you really expect a movie based on an anime like this was going to be good? You can't make a good movie out of a bad anime. That's never been done before and I don't know why anyone would expect a good movie to come out of something with a terrible storyline

 

[DanteFox]

my citation is anyone over 18's opinion of dragonball. it's cool and all as a good but in all reality watch the anime, it's got no plot, the characters sound like they are constipated while they charge their moves for 3 episodes in a row, and the artwork is really low quality. did you really expect a movie based on an anime like this was going to be good? You can't make a good movie out of a bad anime. That's never been done before and I don't know why anyone would expect a good movie to come out of something with a terrible storyline

You can't make a good movie out of a bad anime.

bad anime

You just outed yourself as someone with bad taste.

 

[JDM]

I never watched DBZ nor cared for it.

I'm Japanese.

 

[Deleted member]

dbz is extremely overrated

it's not a total peice of **** though

 

[joeplicate]

dbz *****

it's a veritable goldmine of childhood memories and faux bad-assedness

what's not to love

 

[Adam M!]

i cant tell if dantefox has learned how to troll or if he believes what he's saying

 

[The Greater Leon]

dragon ball kai *****

it cuts out all the crap

i cant really vouch for the english dub, ive only seen commercials

 

[frotaz37]

DBZ is amazing for a lot of reasons.

The characters are the most overpowered fictional characters ever created, for anything, ever.

Not even Fox could beat Goku.

 

[DanteFox]

i cant tell if dantefox has learned how to troll or if he believes what he's saying

that means I've perfected my trolling.

Spoiler

I was serious.

 

[Adam M!]

hahaha the bolded bad anime thingy you led up to was cute, ima have to steal that

 

[EdreesesPieces]

I just can't comprehend what you saw in the anime that you wouldn't see in the movie. the two are exactly the same

 

[mio]

wasnt goku just some white douche?

-big b

 

[EdreesesPieces]

He is an asian douche in the anime. Don't forget that Goku is just a child during Dragonball, which the movie is based off. The movie is based off Dragon ball, not dragon ball z, so the Goku you see in DBZ is goku after he matures and grows up. He's a douche in dragon ball.

btw I used to love db and dbz..i've seen it all. But when I went to go back to watch it now, it's really cheesy, in the same manner that the movie is.

 

[mio]

He is an asian douche in the anime. Don't forget that Goku is just a child during Dragonball, which the movie is based off. The movie is based off Dragon ball, not dragon ball z, so the Goku you see in DBZ is goku after he matures and grows up. He's a douche in dragon ball.

btw I used to love db and dbz..i've seen it all. But when I went to go back to watch it now, it's really cheesy, in the same manner that the movie is.

well im oblivious to any supposed cheeziness
but i also tried rewatching the toonami dub for DBZ
it was boring

but dragonball kai aint
give it a chance imo

-tgl

 

[bbb]

the twist was

Spoiler

...............................................Ong..............

 

[Gishnak]

DBZ and sometimes DB only have the 'holy **** I remember that show being awesome' thing going for it. Just how I remember thinking Home Alone was bada$$ as ***, but I rewatched it realized it was just a giant turd.

Yeah DBZ isn't completely trash, but there are many many many better animes.

 

[pockyD]

I remember thinking Home Alone was bada$$ as ***, but I rewatched it realized it was just a giant turd.

wow no *****!

 

[Gishnak]

wow no *****!

Oh wow cool guy. I guess your movie tastes were fully matured by the time you watched your first movie, and you've never remembered a movie as cooler than it actually is because you saw it when you were young.

 

[pockyD]

as your tastes change, it's sometimes a sign that you've grown out of the target audience of the film

there are countless movies that i enjoyed more as a kid than i will if i watch them again in 20 years; their quality didn't change, only your perception and expectations of it did

 

[HyugaRicdeau]

But when our perception/expectations of a movie change, that could be due to either growing out (or otherwise leaving) the target audience OR to a change in our ability to look at it with a critical eye.

That being said, Home Alone is excellent.

 

[pockyD]

but when watching movies made for children as a child, there's no real reason to look for deeper meaning or subtle brilliance; it's unfair to judge a film against a standard for which it was not intended

it's a little bit like saying schindler's list wasn't really that funny

 

[LooksLikePit]

when I was a kid, I never saw home alone. I felt so left out.

 

[SuperRad]

when I was a kid, I never saw home alone. I felt so left out.

this explains so much

 

[Gishnak]

but when watching movies made for children as a child, there's no real reason to look for deeper meaning or subtle brilliance; it's unfair to judge a film against a standard for which it was not intended

I don't think it's 'unfair' to judge a film by a standard for which it wasn't intended. That's what plenty of bad artists say when their 'art' is not positively received. I'm perfectly comfortable saying that quite a few screamo songs are terrible, and I'm certainly not judging them by a standard for which they are intended. Is that unfair?

 

[HyugaRicdeau]

but when watching movies made for children as a child, there's no real reason to look for deeper meaning or subtle brilliance; it's unfair to judge a film against a standard for which it was not intended

it's a little bit like saying schindler's list wasn't really that funny

Not really, that's not what my point was. My point was that as you get older, your ability to judge something's value (usually) gets better - even if you are no longer in the target audience you have more of an ability to discern what makes a good or bad children's movie.

 

[pockyD]

I don't think it's 'unfair' to judge a film by a standard for which it wasn't intended. That's what plenty of bad artists say when their 'art' is not positively received. I'm perfectly comfortable saying that quite a few screamo songs are terrible, and I'm certainly not judging them by a standard for which they are intended. Is that unfair?

Sure it is. If you're comparing screamo to your ideal of mozart or the beatles, then you're pretty clearly looking in the wrong place. If you compare said screamo songs to other screamo songs, then your judgment becomes more valid. If you want to knock the whole screamo genre, then it's unfair to single out a song

Clearly, when you were the audience for whom the movie was intended, you enjoyed it

i mean, you can't just call any random italian or russian movie terrible because "it was all in gibberish, not english"

Not really, that's not what my point was. My point was that as you get older, your ability to judge something's value (usually) gets better - even if you are no longer in the target audience you have more of an ability to discern what makes a good or bad children's movie.

I feel that the purpose of a children's movie is to entertain children. Consequently, I feel that the best judge of how well a children's movie entertains children is the perspective of a child.

This is a different situation than your tastes simply getting more "refined" or "developed"; growing out of fully enjoying children's productions as you get older is a near fact of life.

 

[Adam M!]

pockeedee makes a good point. it's important to realize all art is relative.

"nothing is good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

 

[HyugaRicdeau]

I feel that the purpose of a children's movie is to entertain children. Consequently, I feel that the best judge of how well a children's movie entertains children is the perspective of a child.

This is a different situation than your tastes simply getting more "refined" or "developed"; growing out of fully enjoying children's productions as you get older is a near fact of life.

But the natural extension of that argument turns everything into a popularity contest. If I say the purpose of a video game is to entertain people (which it ostensibly is), and Dota were more popular than SC (hypothetically), implying that more people are entertained by it, I don't think you'd acquiesce and say Dota is a better game. I know you believe SC to be better than Dota, so you must draw a distinction between "better" and "more entertaining." "Better" might not be precisely the right word so feel free to correct me if you have a more well-defined concept you'd rather use.

 

[Adam M!]

it's probably a personal distinction and nothing more

 

[pockyD]

But the natural extension of that argument turns everything into a popularity contest. If I say the purpose of a video game is to entertain people (which it ostensibly is), and Dota were more popular than SC (hypothetically), implying that more people are entertained by it, I don't think you'd acquiesce and say Dota is a better game. I know you believe SC to be better than Dota, so you must draw a distinction between "better" and "more entertaining." "Better" might not be precisely the right word so feel free to correct me if you have a more well-defined concept you'd rather use.

I think you may be misunderstanding what I said

I'm wasn't claiming that the purpose of a children's movie is to entertain as many children as possible (though it might be; it's just not what I was saying before) - I was evaluated the movie's merits based on how well it entertained me and you and gishnak and other individuals as children (though i'm sure you were in your late teens when it came out right?!?!?!?!?)

quantity vs quality

McDonald's may serve billions, but the thousands that eat in-n-out have a better time

edit: obv it's possible (or even likely) for something to be tops in both quality and quantity... and if so, good for them

 

[DanteFox]

yeah man it's like comparing children's books to novels.

different audiences.