The King of Klones (the Ganon character design thread)

[Piedro]

Well, if they just took the current model, gave it a sword and some animations, they'd save a lot of time.

I mean: look at Lucas. He clearly has had less of a development cycle than Mewtwo did since his model was already similar to Ness and had some similar moves.

I think just giving Ganondorf his infamous sword would be a similar amount of work.

I'm still voting for it.

Yup. I will vote for that too. How did you vote? I mean what did you typed in the character field? Toon Ganondorf? Proper Ganondorf?

 

[Xinc]

Nabooru dead though.

So? Redeads maintain the original brainpower… kinda

Also, why not just propose different customs like Palutena?

 

[Quillion]

Yup. I will vote for that too. How did you vote? I mean what did you typed in the character field? Toon Ganondorf? Proper Ganondorf?

I regularly vote "Sword Ganondorf". Though I will sometimes say "Sword Ganondorf with Magic" or "Trident Ganondorf". Either works for me.

 

[PhantomShab]

Also, why not just propose different customs like Palutena?

For me, because while I want Ganondorf to have a more fitting moveset, I also don't want any character to get the bias-seeping special treatment Palutena got. That, and I can't use those customs in For Glory.

Also, I'm more for the magic-based moveset Ganondorf could have over a sword-based one.

 

[Xinc]

For me, because while I want Ganondorf to have a more fitting moveset, I also don't want any character to get the bias-seeping special treatment Palutena got. That, and I can't use those customs in For Glory.

Also, I'm more for the magic-based moveset Ganondorf could have over a sword-based one.

I'm just going to say: Customs should be reflecting on different moves for every character, not just replications of another move. For example, Ness gets Lucas' PSI Magnet style, which is somewhat biased, right?

But I see your point. (But I still like Falcondorf)

 

[Quillion]

For me, because while I want Ganondorf to have a more fitting moveset, I also don't want any character to get the bias-seeping special treatment Palutena got. That, and I can't use those customs in For Glory.

Also, I'm more for the magic-based moveset Ganondorf could have over a sword-based one.

I've been thinking about a mage Ganondorf in addition to sword (though I still prefer sword/trident).

Would you say he'd be like a heavier Mewtwo? I say that the way I think of Greninja as being Sheik with water weapons.

 

[PhantomShab]

Not sure if he'd be like Mewtwo.

 

[Quillion]

Not sure if he'd be like Mewtwo.

I think it's pretty much the only way he'll be more of a dark wizard, with nearly all moves being different but with similar appearance and/or application.

 

[MagiusNecros]

So? Redeads maintain the original brainpower… kinda

Also, why not just propose different customs like Palutena?

Why not propose that for every character. Plus it doesn't fix the problem. Since standard attacks are what is used the most.

 

[Piedro]

Why not propose that for every character. Plus it doesn't fix the problem. Since standard attacks are what is used the most.

Erhmm... Spammy links and Zero skill Spamuses would disagree.
On a serous note i was kinda downed when i learned that Palutena's customs are unique and not just variations. She is not special (a goddes, pfft).

 

[MagiusNecros]

Erhmm... Spammy links and Zero skill Spamuses would disagree.
On a serous note i was kinda downed when i learned that Palutena's customs are unique and not just variations. She is not special (a goddes, pfft).

Yet those spam attacks still fit the character. And palutena got sakurai bias. Despite still being weak anyway.

 

[Quillion]

Would everyone be okay with making another thread in this subforum where we vote for a Sword Ganondorf?

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Guys why don't we just have Black Shadow take Falcondorf's old moveset, excluding front tilt, Flame Choke, and FAir, and then give Ganondorf an awesome moveset. But then again I'd want Goroh in before Shadow but still.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Guys why don't we just have Black Shadow take Falcondorf's old moveset, excluding front tilt, Flame Choke, and FAir, and then give Ganondorf an awesome moveset. But then again I'd want Goroh in before Shadow but still.

Deathborn

 

[Quillion]

Guys why don't we just have Black Shadow take Falcondorf's old moveset, excluding front tilt, Flame Choke, and FAir, and then give Ganondorf an awesome moveset. But then again I'd want Goroh in before Shadow but still.

How about we just get another Ganondorf but with a sword?

Literally the same model we have now, but with a sword? As a separate character?

I'm conflicted on whether I want to make a separate thread for that or not...

 

[Captain Justice]

Ganondorf with a sword would be nice. At the very least, that taunt wouldn't be made fun of anymore...

 

[MagiusNecros]

I would like dual swords dorf because hyrule warriors has spoiled me.

 

[Piedro]

I would like dual swords dorf because hyrule warriors has spoiled me.

That's exactly what i voted for.

 

[Xinc]

That's exactly what i voted for.

Can you envision his move set?

 

[Piedro]

kinda, but i have to view clips on youtube.

 

[Codaption]

Alternatively, Ganon with swords for arms and legs seems like a viable choice.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Can you envision his move set?

Yeah I just start playing Hyrule Warriors and there it is. It even has a Warlock Punch that throws down a huge energy ball and gets punched and shatters into smaller energy balls. Much like how Ganondorf in OoT createsd a huge energy blast that split into magic missiles.

And HW Dorf is best Dorf. Especially since they somehow made Ganondorf in Smash look worse here then in Brawl. I mean honestly you look at the model and Brawl comes out the winner.

 

[Quillion]

Yeah I just start playing Hyrule Warriors and there it is. It even has a Warlock Punch that throws down a huge energy ball and gets punched and shatters into smaller energy balls. Much like how Ganondorf in OoT createsd a huge energy blast that split into magic missiles.

And HW Dorf is best Dorf. Especially since they somehow made Ganondorf in Smash look worse here then in Brawl. I mean honestly you look at the model and Brawl comes out the winner.

HW Ganon is awesome, but Smash's Ganondorf needs to be a canon Ganon [dodges tomato], not a spinoff Ganon.

 

[MagiusNecros]

HW Ganon is awesome, but Smash's Ganondorf needs to be a canon Ganon [dodges tomato], not a spinoff Ganon.

OoT Ganon uses dual swords. WW Ganon does too.

And Pig Ganon with the Trident would be boss.

 

[Purin a.k.a. José]

Despite loving Falcondorf, I agree with the OP. That's not a faithful represention anywhere, and why he has a Sword in a taunt if he won't use it?! I know he has a Custom move, but it's just a reskin of Warlock Punch. I would be okay with his Hyrule Warriors Version; If Black Shadow, the "villain" of F-Zero, borrowed it instead, it would make more sense.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Fzero does need reps.

 

[Spootondorf]

And HW Dorf is best Dorf. Especially since they somehow mde Ganondorf in Smash look worse here then in Brawl. I mean honestly you look at the model and Brawl comes out the winner.

Yup. Not only does the toonish shading in the Wii U version not fit him very well (though it's not horrible by any stretch), but those mouth lines and grimace.... Seriously!? The 3DS version looks better most of the time, just because the screen is smaller. That said, you can still see it.

Via Smash Wiki: "Ganondorf's mouth does not open all the way, leaving small marks at the sides of his mouth that remain still."

 

[Pyrofruit]

I think this Ganon should stay the Sam, but they add a toon Ganon who's faithful to the canon ganondorf.

 

[Enderwoman]

I think this Ganon should stay the Sam, but they add a toon Ganon who's faithful to the canon ganondorf.

Yeah, I would like to see a faster variation of Ganondorf's moveset

 

[Quillion]

I think this Ganon should stay the Sam, but they add a toon Ganon who's faithful to the canon ganondorf.

Too much developer work. Let's stick with something that they can potentially deliver on.

 

[Sucumbio]

The best idea in this thread is a separate Gannon release. But Ganondorf should be as he is. Besides which his brawl iteration was different enough.

 

[Quillion]

The best idea in this thread is a separate Gannon release. But Ganondorf should be as he is. Besides which his brawl iteration was different enough.

GANNON BANNED!

Also, that's just half the problem. The other half is that Ganondorf's canon abilities are disproportionately represented.

 

[Quillion]

I mean should they stop insisting on giving Ganondorf swords and magic and just focus on using his pure strength? You're right that it does fit in his character, but the fact is that he does so very rarely.

If the Zelda developers actually adopted this, that would make him a more unique character instead of the more cliche sword-using overlord that they insist Ganondorf has to be now.

And it would shut up all the annoying whiners (like myself) who say that Ganondorf still isn't faithful to his canon depiction.

 

[Rialdospaldacht]

Jesus, no. They shouldn't bend over to make his Smash portrayal make sense. Smash should conform to Zelda for him, not the other way around. If using swords is a problem (which I'm personally not a fan of), turn him back to the demon sorcerer he was before WW started this trend.

 

[jmanup85]

Can we stop with these moveset topics and what he does in the games already? It's seriously annoying

 

[KenMeister]

Why? Did you have something against the final boss fights of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess or something?

 

[Triggerpig]

No, Ganondorfs always fought in a variety of different ways anyway, I would'nt mind seeing a phase where he fights hand to hand but changing his character to only do that would just be silly imo.

 

[Jotari]

It's true he uses Swords but every time he has done so he's used them in a different way. So, I wouldn't mind if he went hand to hand for a bit (and in fact, he kind of does in the Oracle Games, not really using punches since it's a GBA game but he does swap between using a weapon and attacking with magic/pounding attacks), but I don't want it to be a permanent change to his character since Ganondorf's fighting style = whatever is appropriate for the games ending.

Would love if they gave us his smash fighting style in Hyrule Warriors though. That'd great. He already uses Warlock Punch for one attack. I'd love to charge through the field with Wizard's foot. Of course Hyrule Warriors could stand to give use his Twilight Princess and The Wind Waker fighting styles too.

 

[The Shadow Emperor]

I love how versatile Ganon is. He can fight with a sword, with his fists and feet, or with magic, but he's a force to be reckoned with in every case. It would be fantastic if he used all three equally, but in the end, does it really matter how you lose to the King of Darkness?

 

[Quillion]

Can we stop with these moveset topics and what he does in the games already? It's seriously annoying

So long as Falcondorf continues to exist (at least without a downlaodable alternative), no.