Oblivion129
Smash Lord
So I've seen some leaks mention Erdrick as DLC. Not to put much mind to it, but the fact that people are willing to put him in fake leaks means he's getting some more recognition around the Smash community at least!
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Wait, really?! That's great! I haven't seen any myself yet, but it's good to know that there are other people requesting him as well! And who knows, if Vergiben really is telling the truth, that square enix rep could be Erdrick, maybe?So I've seen some leaks mention Erdrick as DLC. Not to put much mind to it, but the fact that people are willing to put him in fake leaks means he's getting some more recognition around the Smash community at least!
Well, this is the source: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/437384319/Wait, really?! That's great! I haven't seen any myself yet, but it's good to know that there are other people requesting him as well! And who knows, if Vergiben really is telling the truth, that square enix rep could be Erdrick, maybe?
It looks like Iwata was a really big Dragon Quest supporter.I want to increase the number of people worldwide that understand the appeal of Dragon Quest, which represents all Japanese gaming culture…even if that only turns out to be a single person.
Oh! Geno showed up as a Spirit?The only Square-Enix content that I've seen other than Cloud and Midgar, was Geno's spirit.
I believe in the treehouse, Geno was shown as a spirit (which we don't know if that necessarily deconfirms characters, though)Oh! Geno showed up as a Spirit?
Exactly. It just makes so much sense for a DQ hero to be the rumored Square-Enix DLC character.So Vergemin .... Vergebin... Mr.V has been going on about a Square-Enix character (or 2) running for DLC.
Personally, I don't think we'll get more than 1.
But toying with the idea that Geno was deconfirmed vía Spirit, I'll take it one step further.
What if the reason Isaac remained an AT is because Sakurai felt he was pushing it with the RPG Hero Swordsman trope... To make way for perhaps the most important jRPG Hero in Japan?
The "Don't expect too many characters" aligning with Square-Enix wanting to advertirse DQ in the west (as opposed to gaining nothing from Geno, or boosting sales for KH which hardly needs more exposure) could have paved the way for a DQ hero, thus
Sakurai prefers to prioritize an important 3rd party deal over a more obscurer jRPG that's been dormant for almost a decade.
This is me doing what I said I wouldn't be doing, but it's fun to speculate none the less.
I want to expect nothing, but it's hard to keep my head together, especially when rumors heavily point towards another SE character.
You're not right, but you're not wrong.I've heard DQ is actually owned by Armor Project and not Square. Is that true? By the way, I feel like spirits don't deconfirm characters. The fact that Geno is a battle arena icon (and maybe spirit) only shows that Sakurai has the rights to use him.
If the Square rep turns out to be Geno or some other Square character I'll still be supporting Erdrick, as I feel there'll still be room for a character from one of the biggest franchises in Japan.
From what I understand, Yuji Horii, the creator of Dragon Quest, heads his own company called Armor Project. That company has an "exclusive production contract" with Enix, which is now merged with Square.I've heard DQ is actually owned by Armor Project and not Square. Is that true? By the way, I feel like spirits don't deconfirm characters. The fact that Geno is a battle arena icon (and maybe spirit) only shows that Sakurai has the rights to use him.
If the Square rep turns out to be Geno or some other Square character I'll still be supporting Erdrick, as I feel there'll still be room for a character from one of the biggest franchises in Japan.
You're not right, but you're not wrong.
See, Armor Studios la basically how Enix (as a developer studio) is now called, from my understanding, once they formed the merge.
And they are only involved as a studio when Dragon Quest games are made. So they're basically in charge of the RPGs. They're usually not involved with the non-rpg spinoffs or crossovers (such as Fortune Street).
So Armor Studios wouldn't be credited in Smash should a character appear.
Yuji Horii might be, in the credits.
Bird studios, and Koichi Sugiyama could potentially be added as rights holders.
If I Made a mistake, or missed anything, you're all welcome to correct me.
Thanks for the info! At the end of the day Sakurai can normally get a character if he really wants them, so I guess it depends on that.From what I understand, Yuji Horii, the creator of Dragon Quest, heads his own company called Armor Project. That company has an "exclusive production contract" with Enix, which is now merged with Square.
Admittedly, I'm not sure what all of that means. To me, it sounds like Enix (now Square Enix) owns the series, but Armor Project makes the games. I could be wrong about that, though.
Yeah, same. Hearing all of this I'm pretty hopeful for a DQ character as well, but if we don't get one I'll probably be pretty disappointed.I hate to set myself up for disappointment, but I'm honestly pretty hopeful about it.
That's a good theory, actually! We don't know if Spirits deconfirm though, because some fighters have spirits, though I believe those are called fighter spirits? I think they showed that at the recent tournament. They can't be equipped like other spirits, they're just there as cool little collectibles I believe (Source on this is PushDustIn)So Vergemin .... Vergebin... Mr.V has been going on about a Square-Enix character (or 2) running for DLC.
Personally, I don't think we'll get more than 1.
But toying with the idea that Geno was deconfirmed vía Spirit, I'll take it one step further.
What if the reason Isaac remained an AT is because Sakurai felt he was pushing it with the RPG Hero Swordsman trope... To make way for perhaps the most important jRPG Hero in Japan?
The "Don't expect too many characters" aligning with Square-Enix wanting to advertirse DQ in the west (as opposed to gaining nothing from Geno, or boosting sales for KH which hardly needs more exposure) could have paved the way for a DQ hero, thus
Sakurai prefers to prioritize an important 3rd party deal over a more obscurer jRPG that's been dormant for almost a decade.
This is me doing what I said I wouldn't be doing, but it's fun to speculate none the less.
I want to expect nothing, but it's hard to keep my head together, especially when rumors heavily point towards another SE character.
Hey! New supporter draws near!I'd like to support. While I haven't actually been able to play DQ III I've been enjoying DQ VII and would love to see any form of DQ representation in Smash. Erdrick seems like the ideal DQ protagonist pick for Smash.
Well I did. It's nice to see other people's insights on the matter.Sorry for the lengthy post, I just wanted to get my thoughts out there! I understand if you didn't read it all
No. No it wasn't. It's one of the few that isn't good.DQ7 was amazing.
This may be relevant to your Erdrick request (which I support whole-heartedly), but since it may be a spoiler, I've tagged it as such. Up to the Thread Creator to decide on this or not.
Should it be noted that by the end of Dragon Quest XI, the protagonist there also earns the title of Erdrick? Sorry, quick edit to rephrase; by the end of DQ XI's Post-Story, he earns the title of 'Erdrick'; not by the end of the main story. He could make a pretty could alt costume as such.
Spoiler to followSo now the final roster for the game has been announced. I thought for certain that once this happened the hammer would drop and we would stop gaining new supporters, but that is apparently not the case. I am personally surprised.
shinhed-ichi is right; it's difficult to see Erdrick getting into the game... but that doesn't mean that we should lose hope! It'd be an awesome moment for Dragon Quest in general. The main thing he has going for him is Vergeben's leaks. While his not have been confirmed, they have been accurate so far. He has stated that there would be two Square Enix characters, so it is possible that he could be a DLC character.
In other news...
The protagonist of that game receiving the same title is news to me. That said, it's certainly plausible. The game is pretty new, but the two characters have a similar enough fighting style and body type that no changes would really need to be made in order to make him an alt costume. I could certainly see him as an alt costume if he shares the same name, yeah.
It's kinda hard to "give up" when we know for sure there's at least 5 more characters coming, none of them are echoes, and they each have new stages and music, which makes it very likely they're from new series.So now the final roster for the game has been announced. I thought for certain that once this happened the hammer would drop and we would stop gaining new supporters, but that is apparently not the case. I am personally surprised.
Speak for yourself, my dude. DQ 7 is my favorite one.No. No it wasn't. It's one of the few that isn't good.
I'm sorry you like having your time disrespected.Speak for yourself, my dude. DQ 7 is my favorite one.
Not sure what you mean by that. I enjoyed my time with the game from beginning to end.I'm sorry you like having your time disrespected.
No, just DQ7.If you're trying to insult me or something
I see.No, just DQ7.
It does.Look, I understand that you don't like DQ 7, but that doesn't make the game bad..
And yet, somehow, you understood the fact that it was an opinion without me having had to expressly tell you.framing it as "one of the few that isn't good" is stating an opinion like an objective fact.
It does not.It does.
And yet, somehow, you understood the fact that it was an opinion without me having had to expressly tell you.
Do you think if someone doesn't preface their opinion of something with "In my opinion" that someone else is going to read that and not realize it's an opinion and assume it was a fact?
Or will they maybe, instead, read a subjective statement about the quality of a thing and just automatically know that it's an opinion like anyone over the age of 5 would do?
I really didn't mean to start anything. Opinions are opinions, but something about that guy's attitude annoys me a little. I'm willing to drop it if he is.In my experience there is no bad DQ game.
7 might drag at the beginning, but I found it amazing. It Made me care about every single town. I loved the music, honestly it's one of the best osts, and the Battles were great with the returning Class System from DQ6.
Let's not be at each others' throat over which is best/worst.
I personally found 9 the least enjoyable. 7 is somewhere down the middle, personally.
To each it's own.
Every minute spent in any DQ game is a minute well spent for me. :D
I say give him both, like Cloud.If Erdrick did get in, I'd much rather see him in the blue legendary armor. I think that's a bit more of an iconic look and represents the first few games rather than just the one.