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The Genesis 4 Discussion Thread

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Round 2 Pools Winners

I201
Dath:4robinf:vs JK:4bayonetta:
Bengar:4sheik: vs VoiD:4sheik:
Apa~:4ryu:vs NAKAT:4fox::4pikachu::4ness:
Kameme:4megaman:vs Xaltis:rosalina:

I203

ANTI:4mario::substitute:vs MVD:4diddy:
Jan:rosalina::4ryu: vs DSS:4metaknight:
Abadango :4mewtwo:vs Mr Con Con:4luigi:
Samsora:4peach:vs Ito:4metaknight:

I205

DarkShad:4ryu:vs Sinji:4pacman:
Chag:4bayonetta:vs 8Bitman:4rob:
Marss:4zss:vs K9sbruse:4sheik::4diddy:
Captain Zack:4bayonetta:vs Ryo:4myfriends:

I207
Earth:4pit::4corrinf:vs FOW:4ness:
Dabuz:rosalina:vs Umeki:4peach:
Aerolink:4bayonetta:vs Cacogen:4sheik:
Komorikiri:4cloud2::4sonic:vs Aarvark:4villager:

J201

ZeRo:4diddy:vs Brood:4duckhunt:
Viviff T. Great, MBA:4mario::4bowser:vs Child:4bayonetta:
Tweek:4cloud2::4dk:vs Remzi:4zss:
Zinoto:4diddy:vs Manny:4sonic::4feroy:

J203
Rich Brown:4mewtwo:vs Saj:4bayonetta:
Ranai:4villager:vs LingLing:4peach:
Ally:4mario:vs Regi Shikimi:4gaw:
Locas:4ryu:vs FILIP:4mario::4cloud2:

J205
9B:4bayonetta:vs Salem:4bayonetta:
Mr.E:4marth:vs Elegent:4luigi:
Raffi-X:4rob:vs Raito:4duckhunt:
MKleo:4marth::4cloud2:vs You3:4duckhunt:

J207
Mr.R:4sheik:vs Rain:4cloud2:
Javi:4cloud::4sheik:vs Fatailty:4falcon:
BigD:4dedede::4mario:vs Nietono:4diddy:
Nairo:4zss::4bowser:vs Zepher:4cloud2:
I have faith in the DHD trio but Brood is totally screwed and You3 won't get away this time.
 

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My predictions would be

Dath > JK
VoiD > Bedgar
NAKAT > Apachai
Kameme > Xaltis
VoiD > Dath
Kameme > NAKAT

ANTi > MVD
DSS > Jan
Abadango > ConCon
Ito > Samsora (Upset alert)
ANTi > DSS
Abadango > Ito

Darkshad v Sinji could go either way imo
Chag > 8bitman
Marss > K9sbruce
Captain Zack > Ryo
either > Chag
Marss > Zack

Earth > FOW
Dabuz > Umeki
Aerolink > Cacogen
Komorikiri > Aarvark
Dabuz > Earth
Komorikiri > Aerolink

ZeRo > Brood (cri)
Child > Viviff
Tweek > Remzi
Zinoto > Manny
ZeRo > Child
Zinoto > Tweek (Zinoto is underrated)

Rich Brown > Saj
Ranai > Ling Ling
Ally > Regi
Locus > FILIP
Ranai > Rich Brown
Ally > Locus

Salem > 9B
Mr. E > Elegant
Raito > Raffi-X
Leo > You3 (cricri)
Salem > Mr. E
Leo > Raito (cricricri)

Mr. R > Rain
Fatality > Javi
Nietono > Big D
Nairo > Zephyr
Mr. R > Fatality
Nairo > Nietono
:196:
 

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Fun Fact: The Duck Hunt trio did not drop a single game in pools today, with the exception of You3, who lost to Cagt, a New England Little Mac who lost 2-1 last stock, last hit.

With that being said, he knows the match up extremely well as we're practice partners. Even You3 tweeted about how well Cagt did. That's impressive.
 

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Yeesh well my guesses in some of the matchups (don't quote me on this i'm a NOOB remember)
Void>Bengar
NAKAT>Apa~
Zero>Brood
Raito>Raffi-x

I'm gonna stop there before I hurt myself.
 

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Also, Raffi VS Raito will be interesting. It is traditionally in ROBs favor, but I admittedly haven't played with Raffi in quite some time (we're always on the opposite sides of bracket nowadays), so I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot the match up. While Raito is probably grinding with OCEAN, I'm here waiting for Raffi to respond to the New England group chat for a knowledge drop...
 
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Round 2 Pools Winners

I201
Dath:4robinf:vs JK:4bayonetta:
Bengar:4sheik: vs VoiD:4sheik:
Apa~:4ryu:vs NAKAT:4fox::4pikachu::4ness:
Kameme:4megaman:vs Xaltis:rosalina:

I203

ANTI:4mario::substitute:vs MVD:4diddy:
Jan:rosalina::4ryu: vs DSS:4metaknight:
Abadango :4mewtwo:vs Mr Con Con:4luigi:
Samsora:4peach:vs Ito:4metaknight:

I205

DarkShadlegend:4ryu:vs Sinji:4pacman:
Chag:4bayonetta:vs 8Bitman:4rob:
Marss:4zss:vs K9sbruse:4sheik::4diddy:
Captain Zack:4bayonetta:vs Ryo:4myfriends:

I207
Earth:4pit::4corrinf:vs FOW:4ness:
Dabuz:rosalina:vs Umeki:4peach:
Aerolink:4bayonetta:vs Cacogen:4sheik:
Komorikiri:4cloud2::4sonic:vs Aarvark:4villager:

J201

ZeRo:4diddy:vs Brood:4duckhunt:
Viviff T. Great, MBA:4mario::4bowser:vs Child:4bayonetta:
Tweek:4cloud2::4dk:vs Remzi:4zss:
Zinoto:4diddy:vs Manny:4sonic::4feroy:

J203
Rich Brown:4mewtwo:vs Saj:4bayonetta:
Ranai:4villager:vs LingLing:4peach:
Ally:4mario:vs Regi Shikimi:4gaw:
Locas:4ryu:vs FILIP:4mario::4cloud2:

J205
9B:4bayonetta:vs Salem:4bayonetta:
Mr.E:4marth:vs Elegent:4luigi:
Raffi-X:4rob:vs Raito:4duckhunt:
MKleo:4marth::4cloud2:vs You3:4duckhunt:

J207
Mr.R:4sheik:vs Rain:4cloud2:
Javi:4cloud::4sheik:vs Fatailty:4falcon:
BigD:4dedede::4mario:vs Nietono:4diddy:
Nairo:4zss::4bowser:vs Zepher:4cloud2:
Dath > JK
VoiD > Bedgar
NAKAT > Apa
Kameme > Xaltis


ANTi > MVD
DSS > Jan
Abadango > Mr. ConCon
Ito > Samsora (;~;)


Sinji > DarkShad
Chag > 8BitMan

K9 > Marss
Captain Zack > Ryo

FOW > Earth
Dabuz > Umeki (It'll be super close, please let this set be onstream)
Cacogen > Aerolink
Komorikiri > Aarvark

ZeRo > Brood
Child > Viviff T. Great, MBA
Tweel > Remzi
Zinoto > Manny (Roy could be a wild card though)

Rich Brown > Saj
Ranai vs Ling Ling (Would not at all mind if it was the other way around though)
Ally >>>>>> Regi
Locus > FILIP

Salem > 9B
Mr. E > Elegant
Raito > Raffi-X
MKLeo > You3

Mr. R > Rain
Fatality > Javi
Big D > Nietono (Get your revenge from last year, Big D)
Nairo > Zephyr
 
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Genesis Round 2 Pools Winners Charatcers

(8):4bayonetta:
(6):4sheik::4cloud:
(4):4diddy::4mario:
(3):4duckhunt::4peach::4zss::rosalina::4ryu:
(2):rosalina::4metaknight::4villager::4rob::4marth::4luigi::4mewtwo::4sonic::4corrinf::4bowser::4feroy:
(1):4fox::4pacman::4myfriends::4robinf::4megaman::4dedede::4falcon::4ness::4pit::4gaw::4olimar::4dk::4pikachu:

Notes
  • Lol :4bayonetta:s everywhere
  • :4cloud:and :4sheik: Popular as ever
  • :4duckhunt:having his best Preformance in a major to date
  • :4peach:showing up despite no SlayerZ
  • The lack of :4fox:
  • :4rob:Doing better then Expected
  • :4dedede::4pacman::4gaw: :4myfriends::4ness::4robinf::4falcon:Hanging in there
  • :4dk::4bowser::4corrinf::4feroy: :4olimar::4pikachu:are secondarys
 
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Round 2 Pools Winners Predictions

I201
Dath:4robinf: > JK:4bayonetta: (It will go to game 3/5 not sure if round one of r2 pools is bo5)
Bengar:4sheik: < VoiD:4sheik:
Apa~:4ryu:< NAKAT:4fox::4pikachu:(If Nakat goes Pikachu he wins, if Fox he loses)
Kameme:4megaman:< Xaltis:rosalina: (Upset Prediction! While Kameme probably has more experience in the MU, I feel Xaltis will be able to beat him in a close set going to game 3/5)
I203

ANTI:4mario::substitute: < MVD:4diddy:(I guess I am confusing people now. I honestly have this gut feeling that MVD will beat Anti and I actually think it will be a 3-1 or 2-0)
Jan:rosalina::4ryu: < DSS:4metaknight: (While not too familiar with Jan and his play style, it's MK Vs Rosa so he will more than likely go Ryu which like I said, never have seen before. If his Ryu is as good as his Rosa he will win, but I don't know.Btw he is a Japanese Player from Kyoto)
Abadango :4mewtwo:> Mr Con Con:4luigi:(I honestly feel like this could go either way. I am sure Mr. ConCon had faced Rich Brown many times and knows this matchup while Abadango from my knowledge has only faced Elegant at his Saga)
Samsora:4peach:< Ito:4metaknight: (1 Like = one prayer for Samsora. But if Samsora's Bayonetta is polished, I can see him winning but Ito is still amazing)

I205

DarkShadlegend:4ryu:< Sinji:4pacman:(This is going to be a good game to watch IMO.)
Chag:4bayonetta:< 8Bitman:4rob: (I feel Chag's performance in the crew battle was just really bad. Also, I doubt there are any Mexican ROBS on 8bitmans level and 8Bitman has Child in Florida)
Marss:4zss:< K9sbruse:4sheik::4diddy:(I am honestly VERY unsure of myself on this one as I feel it will be just like their set at Genesis Saga)
Captain Zack:4bayonetta:> Ryo:4myfriends::4corrinf:(I added a Corrin here because there is no way he is going to face Captain Zack with Ike)

I207
Earth:4pit::4corrinf:> FOW:4ness:
Dabuz:rosalina::4olimar:> Umeki:4peach: (Honestly going to be an amazing game to watch and could go either way. I hope that Dabuz is able to win as I want it to be his year but yeah. This better be streamed)
Aerolink:4bayonetta:> Cacogen:4sheik:
Komorikiri:4cloud2::4sonic:> Aarvark:4villager: (Komorikiri has the best Villager experience in Ranai so I think he will be fine)

J201

ZeRo:4diddy:> Brood:4duckhunt:(It pains me to put the bet against the DHT, but it's ZeRo)
Viviff T. Great, MBA:4mario::4bowser: < Child:4bayonetta:
Tweek:4cloud2::4dk:> Remzi:4zss:
Zinoto:4diddy:< Manny:4sonic::4feroy:

J203
Rich Brown:4mewtwo:> Saj:4bayonetta:(Woah I did not know this match was happening. This is going to be a great one that will be Last Hit last Stock.)
Ranai:4villager:> LingLing:4peach:(This could honestly go either way imo, but the safer one is Ranai)
Ally:4mario:> Regi Shikimi:4gaw:(Checks Name of tournament. "Oh wait Regi, your not supposed to be winning cause it's not EVO")
Locas:4ryu:> FILIP:4mario::4cloud2:

J205
9B:4bayonetta:> Salem:4bayonetta:(Very hard to call imo, could go either way gonna want to watch if streamed)
Mr.E:4marth:> Elegent:4luigi:(Swords + Luigi don't mix well)
Raffi-X:4rob:< Raito:4duckhunt:(Raito knows the MU in ocean but does Raffi know it? I doubt it. At least this means Raito has a pretty good shot at top 32...
MKleo:4marth::4cloud2:> You3:4duckhunt:(OH COME ON)

J207
Mr.R:4sheik:> Rain:4cloud2:
Javi:4cloud::4sheik:> Fatailty:4falcon:
BigD:4dedede::4mario:> Nietono:4diddy:
Nairo:4zss::4bowser:> Zepher:4cloud2:
 

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You3 has to play aganist MKLeo. If he actually manages to beat him, he will probably have to play aganist Raito.

whyyyyyyyyyyy
 

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Some notable losers matches with my predictions at the bottom.

Kossimoss:4gaw:vs Slither2Hunter:4metaknight:
Kogarasuma :4lucina:vs Hackoru:4mario:
Koolaid:substitute:vs Ksev:4fox:
Shaky:4ness:vs Kiraflax:4pit::4rob:
Afro Smash:4samus:vs KodyStri:4lucas:
Jtails:4diddy:vs SS:4villager::4ness:
OCEAN:4rob:vs Ned:4cloud2:
6WX:4sonic:vs Soronie:4shulk:
Captain L :4pikachu:vs Tremendo Dude:4shulk:
Trevonte :4sheik:vs James:4diddy::4cloud::4luigi:
Scizor :4link:vs DJ Jack:4ryu:
IC:4diddy:vs Cat:4link:
Craftis :4sonic:vs Raptor:4yoshi:


S2H > Kossimoss
Kogarasuma > Hackoru
Koolaid > Ksev
Shaky > Kiraflax
Afro Smash > Kody
Jtails > SS
Ned > OCEAN
6WX > Soronie
Tremendo Dude > Captain L
James > Trevonte (This better be recorded or streamed)
Scizor > DJ Jack
Cat > IC
Craftis > Raptor
 
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ESAM has to beat False, ConCon, and Samsora to get top 64. I really doubt that will happen.

You3 and Raito are in a death pool. That and Brood's playing ZeRo immediately have me doubting any of the Duck Hunts will make top 32.
 

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So depending on the outcome of You3 and MKLeo Raito and You3 either have to play each other or Raito has to play arguably the best Cloud.
 

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Man, I love watching Fatality go to work, but I feel that javi's gonna take the match from him...who knows though.
Highly unlike imo, but if Ryo takes it from Zack I'm going to be very, very happy. Again, unlikely, I know, but could still happen. I'd be willing to bet Ryo either switches to Roy or Corrin after Game 1, or doesn't even use Ike at all the whole set.
 

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Highly unlike imo, but if Ryo takes it from Zack I'm going to be very, very happy. Again, unlikely, I know, but could still happen. I'd be willing to bet Ryo either switches to Roy or Corrin after Game 1, or doesn't even use Ike at all the whole set.
Problem is I think all three characters do roughly equally as badly against Bayo. They all have a tool that works well against Bayo (throw combos into KOs, Pin, Speed) but all three characters are pretty much just juggle bait for her.

Roy is probably his best bet, less likely that Zack knows how to fight against a Roy compared to Ike and particularly Corrin. Corrin he's probably pretty used to.
 

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Predictions:

I201:
JK :4bayonetta: > Dath :4robinf:
VoiD :4sheik: > Bedgar :4sheik:
Apachai :4ryu: > :4fox: NAKAT
Kameme :4megaman: > :rosalina: Xaltis

I203:
ANTi :4mario::4cloud2::substitute: > MVD :4diddy:
DSS :4metaknight: > Jan :rosalina::4ryu:
Abadango :4mewtwo: > Mr. ConCon :4luigi:
Ito :4metaknight: > Samsora :4peach:

I205:
DarkShad :4ryu: > Sinji :4pacman:
Chag :4bayonetta: > 8BitMan :4rob:
Marss :4zss: > K9 :4diddy::4sheik:
Captain Zack :4bayonetta: > Ryo :4myfriends::4corrinf::4feroy:

I207:
FOW :4ness: > Earth :4pit:
Dabuz :rosalina: > Umeki :4peach:
Cacogen :4sheik: > Aerolink :4bayonetta:
Komorikiri :4cloud2::4sonic: > Aarvark :4villager:

J201:
ZeRo :4diddy: > Brood :4duckhunt:
Child :4bayonetta: > Viviff the Great :4bowser::4mario:
Tweek :4cloud2: > Remzi :4zss:
Zinoto :4diddy: > Manny :4sonic::4feroy:


J203:
Rich Brown :4mewtwo: > Saj :4bayonetta:
Ranai :4villager: > LingLing :4peach:
Ally :4mario: > Regi :4gaw:
Locus :4ryu: > FILIP :4mario:

J205:
Salem :4bayonetta: > 9B :4bayonetta:
Mr. E :4marth: > Elegant :4luigi:
Raito :4duckhunt: > Raffi-X :4rob:
MKLeo :4marth::4cloud2::4metaknight: > You3 :4duckhunt:

J207:
Mr. R :4sheik: > Rain :4cloud2::4diddy:
Fatality :4falcon: > Javi :4cloud2::4metaknight:
Nietono :4diddy: > Big D :4dedede::4mario::4falcon:
Nairo :4zss: > Zephyr :4cloud2:


Upset potential with:
Dabuz vs. Umeki
Salem vs. 9B
K9 vs. Marss
Bedgar vs. VoiD
Zinoto vs. Manny
Samsora vs. Ito


Volatile, could go either way:
JK vs. Dath
Fatality vs. Javi
Captain Zack vs. Ryo
FOW vs. Earth

I wanna say Rain could beat Mr. R on a good day but probably not
 

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Problem is I think all three characters do roughly equally as badly against Bayo. They all have a tool that works well against Bayo (throw combos into KOs, Pin, Speed) but all three characters are pretty much just juggle bait for her.

Roy is probably his best bet, less likely that Zack knows how to fight against a Roy compared to Ike and particularly Corrin. Corrin he's probably pretty used to.
Out of curioisty, how susceptile is bayo to nair to Blazer? I could see ryo pulling a repeat of smash con with Aba, but I can't really remember how ehavy bayo is compared to rosaluma.
 

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Out of curioisty, how susceptile is bayo to nair to Blazer? I could see ryo pulling a repeat of smash con with Aba, but I can't really remember how ehavy bayo is compared to rosaluma.
77 vs 84 for weight, with Bayo being heavier. Wouldn't know what that translates to.
 

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Poor low tiers got really screwed by brackets this time around.

G dub is going to get pulverized by Ally,

2 of the 3 Japanese Muttkateers are going to get slammed by the 2 best players in the world at the moment Zero and Ally (you could argue Ally or Nairo over >Leo but whatever).

Raito will probably beat Raffi but still faces an immensely difficult bracket with Leo and 9B of note. But i have a good feeling about Raito actually. His Duck hunt vs the Mario that I saw was absolutely magical to watch in terms of dominance. He is probably the underdog (haha) to watch for.

Then there is Big D, who I never ever seen pull out DDD at VSB tournies that I went to. Always went Mario. Dunno how much we will see of DDD but I don't think Big D will beat Nietono tbh.

Both Sinji and 8 Bit have been playing great. I think Marss is going to run this bracket though with K9 in 2nd.

Props to the Roy pockets.

Pool J207 looks too cloudy to predict.

Know what's nice about tough brackets though? The upsets of they happen are just salivating to think about!
 
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The Duck Hunt players are very optimistic though. They didn't travel here to lose.
Who travels to lose though rofl

What you plan and what happens can be unfortunately very different
 
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Since singles has started (but not on stream, I believe?) here's two notable matches (not upsets)
Chag :4bayonetta: 2-0 8BitMan :4rob:
Marss :4zss: 2-1 K9sbruce :4diddy: (probably went Diddy)
 

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According to bracket, Chag:4bayonetta:2-8bitman:4rob:

Also Esam over False, Marss over K9, and Kody Over Afro Smash


Abadango 2-0 over ConCon


JK :4bayonetta:>Dath:4robinf:
Void:4sheik:>Bedgar:4sheik:
Apa :4ryu:<Nakat:4pikachu:
Kameme:4megaman:>Xaltis:rosalina:
Ito:4metaknight:>Samsora:4peach:(Apparently it was game 3 last stock)
Dragon :4shulk:>Waymas:4wario2:
Kossimoss > Ksev:4fox:and S2H:4metaknight:
Sinji:4pacman:>Darkshad:4ryu:
Captain Zack:4bayonetta:> Ryo
Shaky:4ness:>Kiraflax:4pit:and Kei:4cloud2:
KodyStri :4lucas:>Pink Fresh:4bayonetta:
 
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Kogarasuma, the New England Lucina, was up a game and a stock against Mr. ConCon, however apparently the bracket changed from under them and their match had to be canceled.

What a shame. It was looking like a big win for New England.
 

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Koolaid's out

KOSSismoss :4gaw: 2-0 S2H :4metaknight:

KOSSismoss has recently been doing as well or better than Regi. Food for thought.

EDIT: KOSSismoss :4gaw: 2-1 Ksev :4fox:


Dragon's out. Lost to someone named Diablo.
 
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So are none of these singles being streamed? Because doubles are still going. I would rather see singles. Idk if it's because they are behind or not.
 

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Yeah, singles isn't on stream, EMG's still got Doubles going on. It's pretty nice though, Ranai and Komo just g the reverse 3-0 on nairo and zero
 

ShadowGuy1

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This just in


Some of pool I205 MIGHT be restarted because someone messed up. This pool include Ryo, K9, Sinji, and more. More coming to you as the story develops.


Dabuz 2-0 Umeki according to Dabuz Twitter
 
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