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The Forest Master Rises! Sceptile for Smash Bros! Over 100 supporters!!!

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I don't know if this has been discuted yet, but what if the "elemental trio" concept is already covered by Charizard (Fire-Flying), Lucario (Steel-Fighting) and Greninja (Water-Dark).
I mean Charizard defeats Lucario, Lucario defeats Greninja, and Greninja defeats Charizard.
Wouldn't this affect Sceptile's chances for getting a playable spot? (if the "elemental trio" concept is anything to go by, of course).
Yeah I argued against this very point a little while back in the thread. The idea isn't that just any old 'elemental triangle' should be present, but specifically that the starter triangle (or 'trinity' is the catchy name someone came up with) is the only one that is symbolic and important enough to the series to warrant a particular character to appear alongside two that have already been revealed. So specifically a grass type and specifically a starter. Hopefully this doesn't sound like pendantic stretchery but makes logical sense to those who have played the pokemon main series.
 
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Suport list and sets updated.

Also, can some mod help me with the spoiler spam in first post? I'm trying hard! :(

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Here, one short moveset:

-Side Smash: X-Scizor- An X shaped attack with the blades in Sceptile's arm. The blades glow green. High Knockback, damage around of 10-12%.
-Down Smash: Iron Tail- In this attack his tail glow white and its heavily hammered in the ground. Only attacks in front. High Damge, around of 18-20%. Horizontal and low knockback.
-Up Smash: Rock Climb- An horizontal jump followed by an X like cut upward. The blades glow beige. The jump is slightly high, and just after that jump, stones appear and raise upward, these stones push the foe up, to get the hit. A shock wave also hits in both sides of the lizard. The complete hit, stones plus X cut, lands High Damage (15%) and Knockback. The shock wave can trip the foe and land low damege, around of 3%. High shield damage.

-Neutral Special: Solar Beam- A chargeable projectile. This projectile is really different of Aura Sphere and Shadow Ball, it acts like R.O.B neutral, but can be charged. The charging time is slow, to fully charge it, is spent around of 20 seconds, but both damage (30%) and knockback are high. When in charging, the blades of Sceptile's arm, and the cottons of his back glow yellow while it moves rhythmically. These last ones keep glowing if the beam is fully charged.
-Side Special: Magical Leaf- Acts like Ivysaur side special, but never misses if the target is near, even if the target dodge, the leaf returns as a boomerang and hits. Low shield damage. 5% of damage. The blades glow pink.
-Up Special: Acrobatics- Jump, kick, kick, punch, slash. Meteor Smash effect. 15% of damage. If an item is hold, the jump is lower and the damage too. Also, it does not meteor smashes. The blades glow blue.
-Down Special: Well... it can be...
Grass Whistle- A bamboo whistle appears as the blades glow lilac. The enemy sleeps if it is hit by the musical notes that goes horizontally in a short range.
Seed Bomb- Sceptile buries a seed in de ground as its blades glow orange. Works as Snake down special.

Thoughs?
Pretty sure Sceptile can't learn Rock Climb. Cut may work out better for it.
 
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I detect an epic Villager/Sceptile combo in the making.
Now, more dynamics of how specific characters play off of each other, THAT would truly be some innovation, and take a lot to balance.

Also, please add me to the support list. Why does it seem so small?
 
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Really? Mewoth is porobaly in, since it's small, But I couldn't see neither Xerneas nor Arceus, and both are really big.
All are pokeballs.
Well, the former two are masterball/pokeballs.
 

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All are pokeballs.
Well, the former two are masterball/pokeballs.
Yes, I know, but by some unknown reason I think that the absence of Xerneas and Arceus in the trailer may indicate that we are going to see more pokemon than we imagine.

And, what you guys think about the possibility of a dual pokémon trailer with Mewtwo and Sceptile, as occurred with Greninja and Charizard?
 

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How would that go? People wouldn't even watch the whole trailer if Mewtwo is shown first. And they would lose hope of Mewtwo is Sceptile was shown first. Then again they could both be revealed at the same time, but...
 

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How would that go? People wouldn't even watch the whole trailer if Mewtwo is shown first. And they would lose hope of Mewtwo is Sceptile was shown first. Then again they could both be revealed at the same time, but...
why would they stop watching if mewtwo was revealed first?
 

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I'm unsure if Mewtwo would get his own trailer, he is a veteran.
But I know many who stopped watching before Greninja, especially given his non-pokemon-fan known status.

And we all rewatch the trailers anyway.
 

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I dont know about you guys, but i think it would be awesome if Mega Sceptile was showed in a ssb Vidio before a pkmn One. It would be suprising and hook upp more pkmn Fans too smash.
 

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Everyone agrees that the last pkmn slot is a battle between Sceptile, puffs And Mewtwo. It is actualy quite exiting.
 

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Everyone agrees that the last pkmn slot is a battle between Sceptile, puffs And Mewtwo. It is actualy quite exiting.
If the rumor is real. If is real, let's keep the Sceplile's hype low, I must agree that it would never be in before Jiggys and Mewtwo. But if it's fake, I don't see any problem with a seventh pokémon rep. We almost got it in Brawl.
 

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Everyone agrees that the last pkmn slot is a battle between Sceptile, puffs And Mewtwo. It is actualy quite exiting.
That would mean everyone agrees that there is only one more slot? I still count on 6 total, unless new evidence suggests otherwise...
 

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I'm in full support for Sceptile. My favorite Grass type and one of my top 3 favorite starters.

I think it would be good representation for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, considering Brawl represented Fire Red and Leaf Green with PKMN Trainer (which included Charizard). Not to mention that Sceptile would work very well in a Smash environment. If Charizard can be introduced games latter after gen 1 and the remakes, why not Sceptile?

I'm unsure if the gecko dinosaur will get in, but I never figured Greninja would get in and loot what happened.
 

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I honestly say the Hitmons have a decent shot: May not be as good as Sceptile though.
o_O I suddenly want the Hitmons as playable.

Anyway, I'm in total support of Sceptile, my first ever Pokemon and a brilliant figure head for the R/S Remakes considering it covers the coveted starter Pokemon Type Triangle that Game Freak pushes in every mainstream Pokemon game, problem I'm seeing is that if the leak is real, then all we have is Jigglypuff coming and nada else, but if the game has 6 Pokemon Slots and the leak is fake (which evidence points to now), I actually think Sceptile is more likely than Mewtwo if GameFreak are suggesting characters as the R/S remakes were probably planned far in advance, as they seem to be turning to making a new remake every Handheld. (FR/LG for Gameboy, HG/SS for DS and OR/AS for 3DS)

But if Sakurai has the final say, then it's clear Mewtwo > Sceptile. So that leads me to my question, probably quite a nooby question but whatever, do we know how much power groups like Game Freak have in the final roster?
 

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I think it's been argued that the Pokemon Company is pulling all of the strings for merchandising and promotion, and Game Freak's only responsibility is designing and developing the main handheld games. I'm not sure how well sourced that is or what difference it makes though. If we want to email campaign someone to get Sceptile in (even if Smash 4 has to be delayed another year lolololol) then it would help to know who to email.
 
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Pros:
- there would be a trio of grass, water, Fire
- Hoen remakes
- would play like a baws, Fun to play as
- if given a New mega form, could eysely be more popular than Blaziken
- if added, all pkmn generations exept 2 and 5 would have a rep
- thrumpets

Cons:
- Hoen Remakes might be too recent
- mewtwo
- Puffs
- there is alredy a pkmn rep who is a lizard
- might play like Greninja
- if not getting a mega, blaziken will still be more popular.
 

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Everyone who thinks there are only five pokemon in this game agrees that the last pkmn is a between Sceptile, puffs And Mewtwo. It is actualy quite exiting.
I think there is no consensus about how many Pokemon there are; and we have direct confirmation there are no 'slots.'
So, fixed your quotation :)
 

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Though, it has also been proven our opinion as a group of chance means very little
 

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So, the CSS "leak",
http://s28.postimg.org/jlo7hcn4d/screens12.png
To me, that suggests there are 6 pokemon reps.
However, I find it odd that the order is Pikachu, Charizard, Luracio, locked, locked, locked. Unless they rearrange after being unlocked, charizard isnt going to be next to be next to greninja and the potential sceptile? Its not by gen, because it would seperate mewtwo and or jiggs from pikachu and charizard. It looks like Brawl's order, Pikachu, PKMN Trainer (charizard), Lucario... I just find it strange for some reason.
 

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So, the CSS "leak",
http://s28.postimg.org/jlo7hcn4d/screens12.png
To me, that suggests there are 6 pokemon reps.
However, I find it odd that the order is Pikachu, Charizard, Luracio, locked, locked, locked. Unless they rearrange after being unlocked, charizard isnt going to be next to be next to greninja and the potential sceptile? Its not by gen, because it would seperate mewtwo and or jiggs from pikachu and charizard. It looks like Brawl's order, Pikachu, PKMN Trainer (charizard), Lucario... I just find it strange for some reason.
Considering that leak lead to this... interesting image... I wouldn't rely on that particular "leak".
 

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Sceptile has surprisingly good odds I'd say.

1. Hoenn remakes = relevance and a perfect chance for publicity.
2. Need a grass-type starter to balance out Charizard and Greninja.
3. Unique moveset potential aplenty.
 

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Sceptile has surprisingly good odds I'd say.

1. Hoenn remakes = relevance and a perfect chance for publicity.
2. Need a grass-type starter to balance out Charizard and Greninja.
3. Unique moveset potential aplenty.
4- gen three character never appeared in smash
 
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